>Who is /fat/ for?For ruinous rind revealers working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqPrevious thread: >>77472012
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how is the fatt loss goin /fit/ bros? im currently 120kg x 180cm and im walking 10k steps everyday at 8am when the air is fresh, feels good, im currently running on 1k kcal a day and no fap, i feel like a superhuman even tho im still a fat fuck, whats up with you???
Down 11lbs since start of summer, some small muscle gains. Haven't been running since it wipes out my gains. Parents saw me eating avocados during my keto phase and brought me a bunch even though I stopped eating them because I wasn't losing weight. I managed to finally stop them bringing me anything that's not fruits though.Back to running it is I guess, should cover two avocados per run.
>>77476779it's going well>down from 131kg July 2025 to 88kg early Aug 2026 6'3" doing recomp and ketobulk of my weight loss was within ~6 months at 2100cal. when i hit 90kg i decided it was enough and time to find my maintenance so upped to 2650cal. over the last 4-5 months i've dropped another 2kg whilst adding 100 calories every few weeks so currently at 2850cal. i'm thinking of going to 3000cal since i don't want to drop anymore weight and i still feel a little tired in my day to day, especially recovery despite pushing through plateaus. I think i've underestimated my TDEE, it's probably somewhere around 3200-3400cal. tempted to lean bulk at this point
Day 2 of noeat.
>>77476797great results, being 120kg is hard, i lost my aesthetic and i dont look good in clothes anymore, i used to be 75kg and muscular because i did 4 years of boxing, then i got mental problems and i did haldol and depakin and got hella fat, i really hope i dont have any loose skin when i lose all the excess weight, what about your skin? is it loose from losing so much kgs?
>>77476802>being 120kg is hardit's awfuldidn't really hit me until i saw photos of myself without my top on. absolutely disgustingyeah there is loose skin around my lower belly and a little on my ass lel. the skin around my stomach isn't noticeable unless i'm sitting down or doing ab crunches. i'm hoping it fucks off in a year or 2 but i'm pushing 40 so maybe i'm stuck with it. either way i'm just happy to be in shape
78.4 kg this morning.
>>77476765Reminder: carbs are no longer part of your diet.
Sober for 1 week, started running tuesday and thursday, doing lifting monday and friday.Weight is slowly going down again. Goal is 85, currently at 94kg today.
>>77476779118kg, 183cm, 29yo, down 7kg since july (started at 125)... progress was a bit slow and demoralizing at first but the help, advice and experiences shared here have genuinely helped a lot, i enjoy the gym and I know the severe cutting is only temporary and that its for my own goodiagmi
Started on august 1st: 257 lbsToday i was 229,pretty good for the least effort on weights and diet
>>77476779178 cm down from 102 kg to 94 kg during summer, though would be nice to get down to 90 kg at first, and then further down to my ideal weight at 80 kg.I probably have a bit too much muscles to make 80 kg realistic, but still it's the weight I've felt the most comfortable as.Was pretty good at losing weight during the holidays, but now back at work it's been a bit worse. Was thinking of fasting through the weekend but it just didn't work out. Also my blood pressure pills are too strong now, so I need to adjust them down, right now I'm just taking half of what I usually did.
>stagnating again
>>77476920>too much muscles to make 80 kg realisticpost body
>>77476921Stop using scalesStart being more autistic about your calorie counting
>>77476921Stop counting caloriesStart being more autistic about your carb avoidance
Ketoschizo should be banned for trolling
I'm getting 1.5g of protein per kg, I'm eating at least 1500 kcal a day and lifting 3 times a week plus some cardio. Every week I'm above 1% body weight loss per week, it's more like 1.5%Started at 95kg, currently 81kg, working to 70kgAm I losing muscle mass like this?
This is the week I see the big 65kg on the scale in a year
>>77476779I started going to the gym this month. Got about 20kg to lose. Really frustrated with how long it's gonna take realistically.
>>77477084no one can lose pure fat while losing weight without doing certain roids (tren). this is why powerlifters are always fat; they chase lifting heavier which requires more muscle which means having more fat alongside it but they cannot lose the fat without losing the muscle.
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>>77477084No, if you’re natty losing muscle you’ve built is extremely hard, I once cut to 60kg and I was getting 60-70g protein a day and didn’t lose any muscle, if anything it looked like I gained, because they were more apparent Unless you stop lifting completely and starve yourself with 500cal a day plus a shit load of high intensity cardio u won’t lose muscle
>>77477084if your lifts stay the same or get better there is no way you lose muscle
>>77477090Yo reterd you understand only the super heavyweights are fat, like every sport their are weight classes and everyone else is jacked and lean.
>>77477106>everyone else is jacked and leansure they are
>doing incline walking on treadmill>at the tail end of it start running at about the same speed as my hard runs 8 ish min mile which was hard for me as a novice>heart rate doesn't go above zone 3To be fair I only ran like a half mile at that pace but it was after 30 minutes of LISS beforehandI haven't ran in like 8 months, but I've been doing other cardio like biking for about 3 months so the cardio transfer must be stronger than I was lead to believe. Might do a 5k this week and see how it goes. Maybe it's less the cardio I have been doing and losing 20 lbs making running that much easierThanks for reading my blog
It can't be helped. Lifts must be made today.
Been about 3 months now of doing walking and being on the diet. Had to reduce the carbs due to being prediabetic. Currently went from 189 lbs to 167. Mostly been walking in the morning for exercise. Cut out all snacking with only lunch and dinner, but I'm not really sure if I should cut dinner and go with breakfast and lunch for the whole circadian cycle. Kind of finding that I can be hungry, but not in an intense way that used to happen. I probably should start lifting, but honestly I don't know where to start anymore.
>>77477219pick up a dumbbell and move it around
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>>77477289cool ad
>>77477309Its not an ad, I think it's actually a neat thing to do (having a chan fantasy league that is)
Woosh coming tomorrow... I can feel it...
What is whoosh
>>77477324He must mean wash, it's probably laundry day
>>77477312>he doesn't knowidk if i should be spoonfeeding a newfaggot...>>>/vg/578643459
>>77477324When your weight starts rapidly dropping after a plateau
I'm literally one click away from ordering 3 large pizzas and 2 big sodas. Order's filled, one more click and it's paid online and here in 30 minutes. I'm so fucking weak and been doing so good these past few months. Talk me out of it....
Started about 3 weeks ago. Would like to get down from 250 to 200 by next year, then ideally push for 180.Am I going to make it?
>>77477437check your Vitamin D. it is stupid to go on willpower alone and fight your hormones every minute of every day.you VILL break one day. whether when you're losing weight or simply gaining it all back.if you're hungry, at least binge on chicken or meat if you don't like veggie salads.
just got back from the doctor 27, 6’3, 439.1lbs They gave me a 6 month supply of Zepbound, weight goal is 400lbs by Christmas and 300lbs and off the CPAP by this time next year, gonna start my dosing tomorrow so I can celebrate with alcohol tonight Any tips for not feeling sick at first and any tips in general to maximize losses are appreciated WAGMI
>>77477437You know you actually could eat a pizza whenever you want, right? The standard chain large pizza is a little over 2k calories, probably not far from your tdee. Having just that pizza as your entire omad like once every other week won't destroy you, especially if it stops you from doing these retarded binges. What the fuck are you even going to do with 3 pizzas at once? And of course diet soda is literally free, I can't think of anything dumber than drinking 4L of sugar soda.
>>77477471>The standard chain large pizza is a little over 2k caloriesDO AMERICANS REALLY?
>>77477475nta but i can eat 2k calories and be hungry again a couple hours later
>>>77476550ive already been to physical therapist im so fucked I can't really even walk routinely right now. example my dental implant screws was loose and I thought it was an infection. they did an x rays and saw no infection. screwed it back in real deep ans said it should be good.I get home ans immediately have a fever of 102.6 and full body shivering and shaking. I think jamming it in released all the germs ans shit right into my blood and jaw now I gotta lay in bed waiting for antibiotics shit just piling up and its really shit . cant even feel safe enough to drive a mile to CVS right now . no way in hell will I be able to do physical therapy right now fml there's no solution its just time and enduring the shit
>>77477484physical trauma can cause you to feel sick, getting screws tightened in your mouth definitely counts as that just some food (lol) for thought, sorry you feel like shit anon
>>77477465absolute unit
>>77477475it's around that here in Germany for a large Pizza
>>77477477That's because you're eating highly processed food that is dehydrated and fiberless. Try eating 2000cal of boiled potatoes, it's 5lbs of potatoes. It would take you the entire day while your body struggles to digest it.
>>77477513yeah even back when i was in shape i was an enormous human beingCOVID really fucked my health up weight wise Got a sedentary job, then the covid 20 snowballed into 40, then 60 and so on the final wakeup call is my mom telling me i need to lose weight, just been having a hard time getting the ball rolling
>stalled on OHP todayNO MORE LIFTINGLIFTING IS OVER
>>77477530Yeah youre not wrong, like drinking a 2 liter of coke is 840 calories
>>77477544Stalling is part of the process on OHP anon. Keep trying and you'll make it fren
>>77477548so why shouldnt i drink a liter of coke per day
>>77477465What mighty lad good lord
>>77477544Honestly while on a cut just being able to prevent yourself from decreasing is progress enough.Your body needs energy for the workout and to repair itself post workout.Eating at a deficit makes that harder.
>>77477465Shit nigger how do you even manage to eat so much you'd get that fatMost I ever managed was probably around 330 and that was me downing a bottle of vodka every other day while eating like an absolute pig
>>77477600So when I reach a weight I can't add to, what do?
>>77477621Just continue with that weight until you can add more>but I need to increase the weight If you can't lift it you clearly don't
>>77477621drop set and/or super set
>>77477602my problem is portions
>>77477632So you like to eat a ton? In that case just maximize calories per gram. You'll have to eat your vegetables. The upside is that you can eat a ton of them. I hope you like potatoes.
>>77477635I love potatoes, sprouts, broccoli, rice etcetraI dont have a problem eating “healthy”, i have a problem of having an unhealthy relationship with food in general Like your hypothetical about 5lbs of potatoes i could dress that up with some cheese and chives and absolutely could crush it in like 6 hours and be hungry for dinner, same with any veggies or anything else really its a poorfag mentality of eat while the food is available that im fighting against, if theres food in the fridge im gonna fucking eat it Which is why both me and my doctor agree im a prime candidate for the weight loss medicine, its going to provide me the opportunity to rework my relationship with food without the voice in my head screaming for it
>>77477644What are your thoughts on just weighing out your food? You'd be surprised how effective it is. Only takes a few minutes of your time.
This week I'll eat 100 calories less each day so that I can get a mcdonad's borger this sunday
>>77477324it's a reddit term made up by fat housewifes and their beta orbitors
>>77477647I think its a good idea but im trying to do little steps to start, going out walking a little bit and let the medicine do its thing to my appetite and then revisiting the situation once I plateau
>>77477644Man I don't really think the meds will help in that case. You need to work on your mental state first and foremost. It requires a lot of willpower to get that shit done.In your case I'd say you need to cook your shit in one batch, spread it out over 3-5 portions and force yourself to only eat it after certain intervals. If you find yourself opening up your fridge before it's your feeding time it's perfectly fine, just drink some fucking water. If water doesn't "satiate" you buy some 0-kcal soda, it tricks your brain into thinking you actually consumed energy. Not the healthiest shit ever but whatever.And yeah you absolutely need to weigh your food like the other anon said. There is no way around that.
>>77477650This man couldn't whoosh and it broke him.
>>77477465>gonna start my dosing tomorrow so I can celebrate with alcohol tonightjust kys and be over with it
>260lbs on July 27>247 lbs today
>>77477654The medicine is going to make me not hungry/satisfied sooner, which is the problem here, and while under the medicine I can teach myself how to eat less, like youre talking about I havent even done my first shot yet (doing it tomorrow so I can have some suds today carefree) but if by this time next month I havent lost at least 8lbs I absolutely will revisit this My doctor at least thinks im going to see very dramatic weight loss for at least the first six months and im inclined to believe it, that was literally his exact words
>>77477659My job is federally regulated and has random piss labs and hair follicle tests otherwise id be smoking pot, but the orange kike(tm) refuses to deregulate because (((reasons))) so here we are
>>77477664>while under the medicine I can teach myself how to eat lessJust going to tell you now, thats not going to happen. You cant learn discipline without struggle. Once youre off the drug youll be back to where you started, so you either commit yourself to taking it forever or learn to deal without it, you cant do both at the same time.
>>77477644holy fuck you're retarded. luckily for you the GLP1 will fry your brain so you'll come to senses. people like you are the reason /fph/ exists
5x5 doesn't give me the pump. I'm switching to 3x10 bros.
>>77477648imagine saving up calories to spend it all on turbo slop
>>77477671600 a year to stay skinny? I wipe my ass with 6 Benjamins, if I have to take it forever so be it Im literally going to fucking die if I dont take this medicine at this point
>>77477654>Man I don't really think the meds will help in that case.but they will. when redditors say it "quietens the food noise" this is what they mean. it will make this fat faggot reconsider his shitty life choices by inlfuencing the dopamine reward cycle in that usesless hamplanet brain of his. if it weren't for GLP1 this fucker would be dead in 5 years
>>77477675fair enough
>>77477672Shut the fuck up idiot im doing something proactive for the first time in my life i grew up in a holler in Appalachia in a trailer with all the windows knocked out of it and a wad of cockroaches hoarding the exhaust of every electronic device in the house, food was an absolute premium and then suddenly as an adult im making 100+ grand a year and have access to all the food i could want, and ive hoarded it in my body but now its time to take a medical solution to rejigger my brains relationship with food I will update about once a month with my (inevitable) progress, and you will seethe your ass off instead of being happy for someone drowning in suet finally winning the battle
>>77477668i dont fucking care you fucking idiot. your behavior is disgusting fat people behavior. OH I CAN REWARD MYSELF BECAUSE I START GLP1 TOMORROW. HELL YEAH LETS DRINK SOME BOOZEhow retarded can one get? you're one of those fuckers who do regular cHeAt dAyS right? you're a weak willed faggot and you got lucky to live in a time where GLP1 exists. I despise trash like you. not because you're fat but because you're a dumb useless piece of trashgood luck on your endeavor - I sincerely hope GLP1 is going to rewire your brain that you stop being such an annoying faggot
>>77477685See>>77477684Stop being such an incel and be glad the fattest among us is finally getting a fucking new chance at life
>>77477684>Shut the fuck up idiot im doing something proactive for the first time in my lifei believe you. and that's fucking sad lol>sob storybest of luck you insufferable faggot
>77477692you are mentally ill
>>77477687yeah and he starts his new chance at life with a booze binge lol
>>77477664>doing it tomorrow so I can have some suds today carefreeYou already failed.
im going to post my body tomorrow as a marker for the first day of my journey and youll seethe i will post my body every month, and you’ll will seethe one year from now, you will be seething but ill be skinner, and thats what matters
and in two years you will bounce right back to your lard ass fucking state, if you haven't had a heart attack or suffered from liver failure at that point lmao
>belly fat pinch just got even smaller>still no woosh since it got smaller the last time>other pinches are slightly smallerthis woosh has been edging me for weeks now it better come. i can measure it!i really hope it's not just moving into my visceral fat. my waist at the navel (biggest part) has been pretty stable throughout this woosh-hopefully process.
>>77477703>>77477684I believe in you.
>>77477684based
>>77477711in two years ill probably be on the same shit and be 200lbs lighter and looking for skin removal surgeons why are you mad at me >>77477714thank you anon, i believe in me too even if nobody else does
>weather drops to 20c>less fat protecting me >suddenly cold everywhere what the fuck nobody warned me about this
alright I'm desperate enough to try something other than calorie counting. Keto or fasting?
>>77477661keep at it
>>77477726You still need to count calories for both
>>77477725why do you think hoodies became so popular lolbut nows your chance to aura farm with some handsome jackets so long as youre not too tubby
>>77477722there is at least one anon always seething at GLP-1 users. ignore him. and don't post body because we have 2 schizos collecting pics. one to masturbate to them and one to "compare" his old ass pics to them.
>>77477733the fuck's wrong with this place
>>77477703I am taking a photo each week, when should I start posting comparisons? Firt image I took at 82 kg of weight and I was thinking to post once I got all the way under 75
>>77477735every board has its schizos
>>77477730oh no
>>77477726they have the same underlying mechanism. i can't sleep easily while fasting and keto is too expensive. it's microwaved potatoes for me.
>>77477738Im going to do a once a month update, i dunno otherwise as I havent lost the weight yet lol>>77477733At this point im okay with it, i need the motivation and setting timelines to myself and posting my fat disgusting body here will help even if it means a schizo weirdo is cataloging my (faceless) body
>>77477749>microwaved they make the same way even if you just crank the sink to the hot water btw it even makes with cold water if youre willing to stir and have runny cool potatoes the heat literally only exists to make them more palatable for people who dont like potatoes
>>77477754i had no ideabut i like the chewy layer the microwave produces though. i dice them before microwaving.
>>77477754this is post unintelligible for me. what?
>>77477784he says you can eat potatoes raw without boiling them
>>77477621Do you mean when you're at your goal weight? That's where the cut/bulk cycle comes in>Bulk to 18% bf > cut back to 15% > bulk back up to 18% rinse repeateThe idea is that your weight is gradually increasing every time, right no you might be 50 kg at 15% then bulk to 55kg then diet back down to 51kgThose numbers are random and I've chosen them solely to make it round and easy to understand.It sounds simpler than it is, everyone has a max weight than can realistically get to which tends to hover on the higher side of your normal BMI and will take upwards of 5+ years to even approach.Steroids effectively let you by-pass that limit which is why most have builds you simply can't attain natty They also speed up recovery and encourage faster/bigger muscle growth
>>77477793you joke but i literally grew up in an area where kids ate raw potatoes like apples i was so shocked i still remember it, same with when my friends mom would offer “pancakes” and it was literally fried bread (not necessarily bad but not pancakes) with a boiled water/sugar for syrup Im not even 30 and i feel like i grew up in an entirely different universe
>>77477840sounds like eastern europe
>>77477847appalachia isnt that much different desu https://youtu.be/yE8Lrxgh9kc
Does anybody here fast for autophagy? How often and how long you do it for? Feel it makes a difference?
>>77477862I was doing rolling 72s for 6 months and it didn't do shit for my loose skin, its a total fucking meme.
>>77477873>>77477862So is surgery/compression shirts the only solution to loose skin?
Are you suppose to weigh your food before or after cooking? Im worried Im not tracking my calories properly cause after cooking an entire pound of ground beef it went from 454 grams to 344 grams
>>77477876If you dont have an eating disorder it doesnt matter
>>77477875Surgery, yes.Compression shirts, no, also a total fucking meme, unless you mean just to hide it, does jack shit for actually getting it to go away.
>>77477876You can do either. Weighing uncooked food is more precise because the values you get for prepared food value greatly depending on the method of preparation.
>>77477886>value greatlyvary greatly, I need sleep, fuck
>>77477876Weigh depending on what your calorie tracker uses. Like cronometer has seperate entries for raw chicken breast vs cooked chicken breast.
I used the advice to pretend like the person you want to be so you start acting like it. I was really hungry and had a bad day and someone bought me donuts which would naturally be the instant dopamine I craved. I thought, 'what would a /fit/ person do, would they make excuses?' I did not eat the donut.
>>77477988when I was a kid i had a box in the freezer filled with things people brought me, I ate it once i was skinny and everything tasted nasty after like 4 months in the freezer.
>43kg down in a year>Had 5 days off over the long weekend >Drank excessively, ate a pizza and did no exercise>Slept a lot due to fatigue>Gained 2.5kg (presumably half water weight)Okay I'm down a LOT of weight, yes, and I'm down 4-5 shirt and pants sizes, but I'm still angry at myself for this. I'm going harder this week to make up for it.
>>77476808That was me at 130kg, I'd slowly put on weight since 2015 (was military until 2023), and when I got out, I packed on 25kg in 15 months. It wasn't until I saw the comparison photos that I truly realized how fucking ugly and fat I was.>>77478066 (that's me)
>>77477465Yeah just got back from mine too, my resting heart rate is still low a year after losing 200lbs (43bpm) and my doctor was like "Have you had an EKG? I'd like to schedule you for an EKG, your heart rate is abnormally low" then I was like "How much would that cost?" at which point they gave me that contemptuous and disgusted "I forgot you were a poor" glare and then was like "If you develop any other symptoms we'll look into it again..." and then hurried me through the rest of my check up as if they couldn't care less and just wanted me gone.
How the fuck do people reach 400 lbs?I felt like shit at 230I still feel like shit at 170
>>77478093>How the fuck do people reach 400 lbs?2 double bacon cheese burgers large milkshakelarge fries
>>77478100How do those people not get turbo diabetes?I'm worried I have it despite my weight loss
>>77478106>How do those people not get turbo diabetes?2 double bacon cheese burgers ̶l̶a̶r̶g̶e̶ ̶m̶i̶l̶k̶s̶h̶a̶k̶e̶diet sodalarge fries
>>77478106they do sooner or later
>>77478111Man those burgers and fries have mega carbs and probably sugar added
>>77477465have you even tried to just eat less? it's really not that hard to lose 1 kg/week at your weight if you just count the calories. it will become harder as you lose weight, but until that happens using glp-1 seems completely pointless. and if you don't change your lifestyle and learn what you can eat to not be hungry, you will need to be on glp-1s for the rest of your life, see >>77464324
>>77478191>you will need to be on glp-1s for the rest of your lifesee >>77477675
>>77476769
>>77477684Owned that crab
For those who made it:Did you get sex?Did starting relationships (talking to other people, in my case women since I'm straight) got better?
Are there any "healthier" processed foods you guys buy? Ive been reccomended Realgood Crispy Chicken, popcorners, and vital pursuit pizza.
>>77478294yeah, don't go for the girl who pays attention to you, go for the one you want. cause whores know former fatties are easy and they'll prey on you.
I'm honestly about to start weighing monthly. Daily is horrible
>>77478380is weekly not an option?
>>77478398No it is, and I just realized thats probably the better option
i've been having a rough few days. visited mcdonalds 4 times in the last 48 hours.
>>77478414The file they have on you must be impressive.
How much shame did you guys feel when the fast good joint you go to recognize you to the point of referring to you by name and knowing your exact order.
WHEN WILL THE WOOSH COME?!!!>>77478430i switch around my fast food joints
>>77478440I did the same but with supermarketsBeing an alcoholic was fun
The woosh has come for me tonight
Over the course of 3 months, I lost 27 pounds... I was AND STILL AM sticking to my diet and doing regular exercise.Well, over the past two weeks I suddenly have stopped losing weight. What's going on? I was doing so good and losing so much. Now all of a sudden I feel like I'm hovering in the same window of about 5 pounds.
>>77478553Either your metabolism adapted or you are now in maintenance range after losing your weight and thus lowering your TDEE. Increase exercise and/or lower your calorie intake further. Sometimes, weirdly enough, it might mean your calorie intake is too low and you gotta up it a bit for your body to understand you are not starving and it can feel free to burn more calories, but I'd be very careful with doing that probably not your case.
>>77478554>>77478553Also, it's only two weeks. Sometimes plateaus can be like that. I'd just lower the calories by 100 weekly
Day 6 of exactly the same weight. I know I'm in a deficit and understand that I can plateau but not even 0.1kg difference almost makes me think the scale gave up. Let's just hope the moment it starts dropping again it drops fast.
>18 calories over daily limitoh god oh fuck it's fucking over
I'm 5'5", in my early 30s, and I do zero exercise, I sit at my desk from the time I wake up to when I go to bed aside from bathroom breaks, to eat, and to occasionally just move around a bit.I have some sort of disorder where I'm constantly hungry no matter what I eat, and the only thing that controls it is ADHD medication I'm prescribed, but that's stopped working well lately so my diet got a little fucked, but even when it worked, I tended to overeat at night every so often (maybe once a week, once every 2 weeks etc) since I don't take meds at night time. Typically I ate maybe 1500-1700 calories a day, but when I overate, I could easily down 2500-3500 calories, and sometimes that can happen multiple times a week evenIn any case, context aside, like a year ago I weighed 180, but through trying to control overeating and trying to limit myself to 1400 calories a day (in practice I often went over to like 1500, and again, I'd overeat by a massive amount occasionally) I got to 150 back in like april or may. Recently (maybe 1-2 months ago?) I got new ADHD meds that really work well to control my hunger even at night to a degree, and I've been consistently eating only 1100-1400 calories a day for a few weeks nowHowever, I am still at 150 pounds as of a few days ago, which confused me since I assume I'm at a deficit. I used this: https://www.calculator.net/calorie-calculator.html calculator as a result, and it claims I should be eating ~1850 calories a day to mantain weight at 150lb, which seems obviously fucking incorrect given my expierences.Can sometime tell me what's going on here? Maybe there was a period between may and now where I started to regain weight, so maybe I went from 150 to like 160 then back to 150 over the past 3ish months? But I don't know what's up with that calculator.
>>77478584Also, do also see resources saying you shouldn't go under 1500 calories a day no matter what. Is that actually good advice? That seems just like people not wanting to be liable for giving lower recs even if for short sedentary people under 1500 is fine. That said, I also wouldn't be shocked if me only eating 1100 calories per day now really is dangerously low, so let me know. I also do want to start to excercise, so tips there would be nice. I mainly just want to not be unhealthy, but I might also want to build and mantain some muscle since I might have some medical shit over the next few years that would suppress my testosterone
>>77478576Your diet can heavily influence water retention so don't worry too much about it>>77478580TDEE calculations and counting calories are only estimates anyways>>77478584>>77478587>constantly hungry no matter what I eatLeptin resistance perhapsIf you're still having trouble with hunger even despite the stimulants, try GLP-1s as a last resort.>shouldn't go under 1500 calories a dayNo it's just people covering their asses. Hell, you can even fast and you'll be fine. As usual in any deficit just lift to make sure you're not losing your gains.>might have some medical shit over the next few years that would suppress my testosteroneLike what? Are you a tranny? It'll make your ability to retain muscle and keep off fat a lot worse.
WAGMI
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>>77478440it took me 3 weeks of doing daily 20km walks and some exercises to happen, from weekly loss of 0,6..1,5kg to 3.6kgdon't deviate from norms and if you start feeling bad, take weekly pics of your profile to compare and increase your exercise amount if you are able
>>77476797I'm the same height and lost about the same weight, now I'm paying attention to my food it makes me wonder how I ever ate enough to get that fat. 3000 calories is so much
>>77478710i think quality of food is importanti could put away 3k calories of soda, chocolate, fries, pizza etc. all the junk and carby foods like no tomorrow. 3k calories of eggs, beef, chicken and fish? not so easy imo.
had to up my calories a bit but now i can actually sleep and have erections
>>77478733super low deficits absolutely crash hormones. wasn't aware of this until i had my bloods tested. luckily i was still getting plenty of fat so i wasn't in the danger zone but it was still lower than it should be. increased calories and went back to normal over a few months
>>77478744yeah its not worth it, was feeling like dogshit
>>77478747severe deficits are rarely worth it unless recommended by a physician because you're at risk of catastrophic health issues like heart failure or something like that
>>77478744does it take long to rebound, considering if you have been on -2kg a week crash diet and heavily exercise i was thinking something was wrong but i thought it was just lack of energy. I'm single so i dont really care all that much and i'd rather just get this done so I can start build muscle, since I want to cut down fat another 20kg before im in my ideal weight
>>774787942kg per week + heavy exercise is pretty nutty. even 1kg per week is a lot with a full workout routine + job and daily shit but it's better than 2kg for sure. it doesn't take that long to bounce back, depending on your age. for me at 38 it was ~3 months between blood tests and i was pretty much back to the normal range at the end of it
78.2 kg this morning.
>>77478294Yeah, getting sex wasn't an issue. As a former 30-somewhat kissless incel I was suprised how easy it was. Also got into a relationship, going strong for 2 years now. I think I'm kinda attractive because I never put any effort into anything and let her chase me. Being weird also isn't a big deal anymore. YMMV though if you're hideous. But you will never now if you are if you stay fat. Being fat is like having a unused scratchcard with maybe a 3:1 chance of a jackpot (you being handsome)
>>77478414That's insane
>>77478200Does your stationary cycle have a 'heart rate zone' setting? I set my age and weight and it'll give me a 30 min session with varying resistances during the ride. I find it way more efficient
>>77478744>>77478759What constitutes a "super low" or "severe" deficit?
>>77478862depends on your height/weight/sex but any lower than 5-600 is probably enough to negatively affect your hormones
>foot feels weird for months >get blood test results back>glucose fine>A1C fine>LDL a little highSo what the fuck is wrong with my foot?Is 138 LDL really gonna block shit that much?
Just 10 more days of this aggressive fasting and I can put it all behind me finally. Shit's really unsustainable in the long-term.
Anyone get an upset stomach when they eat sweets? Can your mindset develop a physical response? The most I can stand is fresh fruit or a small glass of orange juice. I've been losing weight starting in May and in the beginning it took a lot of willpower to keep myself away from candy and ice cream, I could eat so much it didn't even register as sweet. Now they tastes 10x as sweet, so much so that it's overkill and the fat in the cream stands out so much more, like sucking on a stick of butter.
Face gains when?
>>77478986You may have already gotten them and can't notice cause it barely made a difference
>>77478986Usually around 18~20% bfIf they haven't come by 15% they aint comin
>>77479032>>77478986Just tried the Navy method, unless I took measures very wrong gave me 30% bf%. Considering bmi wise I am not obese, that means I have fuckall in terms of muscles doesn't it?
>>77479032truth, hit 20% bf 3 weeks ago and kept about 0.8kg weight loss pw since. people keep saying I've lost weight from my face this week having only ever mentioned my gut before
Remember it’s ok to feel hungryThat means the diet is working
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>>77479139Naw that just means you on a dumb diet. I'm stuffed every single day eating oatmeal, protein powder, fruit, boiled potatoes, vegetables, chicken, beef, pickles etc. and I'm down 7.5% of my bodyweight over the summer.I'd be down even more if I stuck to running, but it was killing my gainz. Still got fall though, going to run it out until it gets too cold and then maybe go to slight bulking.
I ran out of whey protein powder and ordered quickly a new supply grabbing whatever is cheapest and gives more value for the $ since at the end of the day its the same shit just different brandHowever I didnt notice that I ordered Casein protein instead of Whey and now im stuck with a big ass tub of it, wondering does it actually matter? From what I searched it you are supposed to take it before bed or something but wondering if anyone had any experience with it and wondering if I should store it away and order whey or just continue taking it as usual
>>77479083Navy method is far from reliable, but its true that its not uncommon for people to be <25 BMI to simultaneously be 30+ BF%, so maybe.In terms of accuracy of BF% readings:Dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry Scan (DEXA) > Hydrostatic tank weighing > Air displacement chamber (bod pod) > Skinfold Calipers 7-Site > Bioelectrical impedance analysis (smart scale) > Skinfold Calipers 5-Site > Navy Method > "@grok, what's my bf%? [me.jpg]?"You've entered the next phase of fattiness, BMI is now mostly useless and your primary diagnostic is BF% which is much harder to track accurately.
>>77479164Casein digests much slower than whey, so instead of taking it immediately before or after a work out, you'll want to take it ~8h before your workout.
>>77479170honestly ive been taking my whey protein way longer after my workout, I usually work out at 7am and then take the protein at 1pm which is probably badI guess I can take this new casein thing before bed at 10-11pm which isnt that badWill find out how much it fucks my stomach since its slower than whey
>>77478958is the feeling in the joint? did you test Uric acid?
>>77479166>believing Groklmaowe had anons doing dexa and navy the difference was 4% on the low end and no difference on the high end.funnily enough, the skinfold method doesn't measure visceral fat so it doesn't work at all at the higger end.
>>77478980You are beginning to unfuck your taste buds
>>77478294No sex yet but I can finger my own abs now and doing it when I'm stressed out or nervous calms me down. Just tracing them through my shirt.
>>77479203I did see two boobies yesterday though at work, and it wasnt even on an old wri key lady.
>Have 1000g worth of sour worms every week>500g grams of sugar total, 71g a day>Around 450kcal in total per day. Still leaves me at a deficit including my other meals. Still lose weight.>Feel really energized during boxing and running when I keep them in my diet.How long can I get away with this before the diabetes kicks in?
>>77479220Pathetic, you're a child. Grow the fuck up.
>>77479220how fat are you? did you get tested before? if you eat that for years then beetus is basically guaranteed.
>>77479200>believing Grok>lmaoHe ranked it as the least reliable anon.
>>77479233I'm not fat, though I'm still trying to lose weight to get super lean. That's why I'm wondering, since diabetes in lean and active people can still happen. If I can do it on and off, or something.
>>77479251Shit I had multiple MnM bags a day while being a fat fuck for a few years and my blood sugar's fine Keep some muscle on you and you should be fine
>>77479245>He ranked it as the least reliable anonexactly. it is wrong and the navy method is pretty good. the navy method does take into account visceral fat unlike the higher ranked pinches method so it is full of shit and you mustn't take its word as gospel.
By mid next month I’ll reach my goal weight4 kilos to go
im exhausted as fuck today so its okay if i eat 100 or 200kcal more right haha...
>>77479303Sure you can just eat a bit less tomorrow
Down 20kg since feb chuffed with that lads to be quite honest
How do I lower my LDL?
>>77477851i felt right at home when you described the "pancakes". i know the same recipe from my grandma. i'm from eastern europe though lol
How much do you bench fatsos?
>>77477876i always weigh the raw/uncooked stuff. cooking boils off water usually so the food gets more calorie dense. if you track cooked food you need to find the cooked version to track in your database. 500g of raw steak have less calories than 500g of cooked steak.tldr - just track the raw/uncooked then you don't have to guess how much water/fat was lost during cooking
>>77477876this is why fat people are viewed as stupid.
>>77477876>>77479658oh also i asked claude to make me a little calculator to calculate the raw weights from cooked meats for whenever I go to a BBQ and can't weigh the raw stuff. i always have a scale with me so I can weigh the grilled meatshttps://fettemama.com/w.htmlthis is in german though but you could take the sourcecode and paste it into your AI and ask it to translate all the texts to english
>>77479638eat less saturated fats
>>77479677My protein comes from mainly chickenHow much more do I gotta cut out?
>>77479638PCSK9 inhibitors
You retards ever think maybe coming to a general to ask other fat lard asses how to not be a fat lard ass is NOT the best way to do things?>hey fellow person that is in the same situation as me, tell me how do i get out of this?>DURR OKAY!lmao.
Second week on keto.This is like a third time I do it, usually I can only last for 1-2 months.I want to go from 89kg to 72kg.I already lost the water weight so I'm at 85.5kgI'm feeling very low energy and low inspiration.I'm not sure if it's the diet or just the regular depression coming back again.I try to stay away from coffee and energy drinks but it feels like it's the only thing that gets me going. Otherwise I can't focus on anything and I'm not productive...
>>77479694make or buy an electrolytes drink
>>77479291navy method works only for non-fats though as it was developed on fit young men in the 1950s or so. if you're a modern feminized skinny fat faggot the method is inaccurate AF. obesoids don't even need to think about it.
>>77479688Are they gonna kill my brain like statins?
>>77479694>I'm not sure if it's the diet or just the regular depression coming back again.the depression is usually followed by severe schizophrenia. this is a common side effect of keto. you should stop the keto meme and do CICO like a normal human being
>>774796946th week on keto here.I can see through walls now.I want to be able to hear other peoples thoughts.I'm not sure if its the diet or just the lack of the evil carbs, but I am ascending.
>>77479708Nah, that's the good thing actually. They don't decrease cholesterol production but they do increase cholesterol clearance, so basically no sides. If anything they should be first-line over statins.
>>77479694>durr guys this retarded meme diet im doing is leaving me without focus or energy and zero productivity, what could be the problem?You deserve everything you get, idiot.
>>77478594>try GLP-1s as a last resort.Why only as a last resort?>As usual in any deficit just lift to make sure you're not losing your gains.Well, I doubt I have much muscle to begin with, but yeah, that's why I'm trying to determine what will actually put me at a deficit or not, or how many calories is too little and will be unsafe vs safe levels of weight lossIs the caclulator result I linked accurate? 1850 calories to remain at 150 for my height seems like way too many. > Are you a tranny? It'll make your ability to retain muscle and keep off fat a lot worse.Honestly, yeah, I'm considering HRT, though less to actually transition and more just because I want a nicer figure and better skin and hair and shit. If you have suggestions on excercises, skincare etc to do instead or or in addition to HRT to achieve that, I'm all ears.
I went from almost class 3 obese to around 18%bfWanna get leaner still but is anyone else freezing their ass off when they enter most businesses? Does this get better?
>start adding fat back into my diet because I'm barely consuming any and I'm worried it's killing my gainz>suddenly get horny again and wanting to masturbate multiple times per dayYeah those aren't the hormones I was looking for.
If you haven't yet. Get yourself a refillable oil sprayer, preferably a misty one. The one I have sprays roughly 1 gram of oil per full pump. This helps you from not going full retard when greasing your pan for meat, eggs, etc. You really dont need that much oil to cook your food.
>>77479811You need fat anonIt turns out everything on the side of the box we need except added sugar and trans fatImagine that
>>77479699you conveniently skipped the part about anons doing dexa and getting results 4% off to the navy method on the low end and almost same on the high end.and don't act like the 7 pinches method is something new made for feminized skinnyfat faggots.fun fact: the navy method wasn't made in the 1950s nor so.
>can finally fit in size medium shirts>arms are extremely saggy from fat loss so they look horrible>continue to wear them anyway to force myself to lift moretime to banish the skinnyfat....
>>77479749>Why only as a last resort?Because they are a crutch and personally I would find it sad to be on them for the rest of your life without changing your food habits.>I doubt I have much muscle to begin withJust fast. If you don't care about muscle fasting and cardio is probably the best way to shed weight quickly.>I'm considering HRTYou are pathetic. But at least lose the weight before you start HRT.
>>77479694I've been doing it for 14 months straight. Few things to keep in mind>people vastly underestimate the amount of fat they need to eat. fat = energy, get your fat in>MCT oil is a legit keto hack that can be used in small amounts for consistent energy throughout the day (like in your coffee if you want to drink it) or in a larger amount in a pre workout. careful if you aren't used to it because it can be hard on your stomach. if you don't want to drink coffee, drizzle some of it on your food after cooking (do not cook with it)>dial in your electrolytes. in addition to fat, people underestimate how much salt they need to have. get a potassium/magnesium/sodium supplement. many brands give all 3 in one packet with zero sugars. you can make your own with pink salt and epsom salts>a diet won't necessarily cure depression but it will help + going on a long walk also helps>it takes TIME and consistency to become fat adapted. be patient. drink 2-3 times more water than you ordinarily would and stick with it
>try nutritional yeast because someone suggested it >sprinkled like a teaspoon over my food>5 mins later I felt horrible stomach pain and headache Is this an allergic reaction or something?
>>77479681just eat skinless chicken breasts then
>>77479749>Why only as a last resort?Because some people get the warped idea that by punishing themselves they're gaining something other than increased cortisol and stubbornness.If you can get them, take them, they're a complete game changer and make losing weight basically an effortless solved problem.
>>77479749Ignore >>77479907 and get started on HRT as soon as you can. It takes time for fat to redistribute and losing weight won't change that, it will simply shrink the cells that are already in undesirable locations.
>>77480044>It takes time for fat to redistribute and losing weight won't change thatThe point is that any new fat gained on HRT will go to the right places. That is, there is less fat to redistribute so it's not as much of a concern.
>>77478200>>77478858Nah, I'm poor so its the cheapest one I could get. Its the most basic bitch model they make.
>>77479958You maybe might have a yeast sensitivity, but its more likely youre just not used to it. I would keep eating it except try smaller amounts at first and build your way up. For real, nutritional yeast is a cheat code and more people should have it in their pantry
so fucking tiredwere all wagmi
>>77479958>anon starts a home brewery in his stomach to avoid tipping off the pigs
>>77479694It takes months to adapt to using fat for energy and your body will never run as good as it does on carbs. Instead of quitting completely when you do, just transition to a low carb diet.
>>77476765am I cheating myself by eating sweet potatoes and chicken thighs?
>>77480214Anytime you eat more calories than what are strictly required for survival you're cheating yourself.
>>77480218>survivalvs>living life like an absolute goated sum bitchvs >fat and insufferableI mean, I don't think survival is the cut off. I could technically survive on much less, but I want to be goated
>>77476779Just started my journey. 192kg @6'4Trying to cut half (1800cal) my TDEE (3600cal) while consuming atleast 130g of protein per day. Target weight 95kg.Going back to my footy shape from highschool. Strangely enough this time around my junk food cravings are minimal and I'm finding it manageable to keep to my diet.
>>77480222do you exercise? going straight to 1800kcal is going to be very hard, you could try tapering. its more about building habits than anything else
Is OMAW safe?
>>77480164>were all wagmiLmao
>>77480058>The point is that any new fat gained on HRT will go to the right placesCreation of new adipose eventually, sure, but those cells take years to die off, sometimes a decade. Every new cell that gets made and goes to the undesirable regions now? That brand new cell gets to live out where it's not wanted.>there is less fat to redistribute so it's not as much of a concern.Fat doesn't really move, it just accumulates elsewhere as you burn and store it. If HRT starts now, the new storage will begin in desired locations.
Got fitted for a new suit today.Lost more in my waist than I thought, down from a 58" to a 44". Lot of my pants are still 48" and I've been keeping them up with a belt.67lbs away from my original goal of 220. Can't believe I'm this close already.
I did a run! I made chatgpt convince me that I can fit in a 20 minute run after work>>77480342based>>77480164we are indeed all going to wagmi
>>77480242If you're monitoring your electrolytes and blood, yeah it can be, depends on you though, not recommended if you have any sort of medical condition. Rolling 72s tend to be what people recommend.
Day 1 of the last stretch
if i lose weight will i finally be able to get a partner
>>77480382Will you actually put yourself out there?
>>77480382I lost weightIt got me nothing
>>77478191I lost 80lbs in a year. No drugs, no bullshit. You have the key: Stop eating so fucking much. I went on a Kamikaze diet for 6 months. It fucking sucked, I can't lie. After that, all of the shit and garbage I used to eat just didn't sound good. A year of working out in my basement-no weight machines or fancy equipment, I completed the 100lb goal loss. 280 down to 199. Arms, chest, back, and legs are jacked. I'm up to around 215 now and I feel really fucking good. I work out 45 minutes in the morning and walk 2.5 miles per weekday. I can have a beer here and there and eat a good dinner a few nights out of the week. STOP FUCKING EATING!!
What bodyfat will my puffy nipples go away?
>>77480375Thanks
>>77480214as long as you're losing weight and can stick to it, it is good. whatever it is.
>>77480414>puffy nipplesanon...touch them, push them in and play around with them. if you feel something harder than fat, it's F.play around with your gut fat to get a feel for how fat is supposed to feel.
>>77480310>>77480044Is there a place where I can learn about this?Or, hell, if you know a lot and are willing to answer stuff directly past when this thread 404s, you got a discord or twitter or email?I can post throwaway accounts I got, EX: a throwaway discord, which is tempthrowaway_53271 . >>77479984Well, I tried to get my primary care physician to prescribe them, but he wouldn't because I wasn't overweight enough (since I had spent many, many months painfully basically starving myself despite my constant hunger, and after that I was so sick and tired of doing so I went to ask about GLPs). Seems like online services like Hims are also a bit too expensive for me, but if I could get a perscription through another doctor it seems like it'd be more affordableShould I see like a nutritionist? Not sure what sort of specialist to see about that constant hunger problem or to diagnose what >>77478594 said, if it's that>>77479907I appreciate you giving advice in spite of the disgust.>Just fast. If you don't care about muscle fasting and cardio is probably the best way to shed weight quickly.I mean, I do care about wanting to maintain muscle, I just haven't cared/looked into it before now. And I did just weigh myself again and i'm at 147.5 vs 150 about a week and a half ago, which is over 1lb of weight loss per week, which I understand is dangerous for muscle loss.So, again, if you have any idea of what the actual amount of caloric intake I need to go from like 150 down to say 130 safely without doing it too fast, let me know. Again, I assume the calculator I looked at is laughably off.
we all gonna make it. losing fat that is.
>>77480481>>77480310>>77480044just in case it's unclear, the discord is "tempthrowaway_53271" without the quotes, there's no space and a period at the end, that was just me awkwardly ending the sentence.
>>77480390You gained mobility, you gained health, you gained self esteem. You gained a lifetime of reduced pain if you keep it up.
i have enough points for 10 chicken nuggets, should I
starting a new job that pays 200k/yr next month, then hopping on the 'jarolol bye losers
>>77478584>I used this: https://www.calculator.net/calorie-calculator.html calculator as a result, and it claims I should be eating ~1850 calories a day to mantain weight at 150lb, which seems obviously fucking incorrect given my expierences.maybe you're underestimating your fat%?you need to use the other calculator for the navy method and the Katch-McArdle Formula like the OP says.i'm 5'7" with 1900 TDEE on sedentary. you are choosing sedentary, right?>>77480508as long as they're wirhin your calories, why not?>>77480515but you want to lose fat too
>>77476765Summer vacation for the kids has finally ended. I wanted to enjoy the time with the family so I didn't track shit. Ended up gaining 3.4 KG over a period of 6 weeks. That's alright. Locking in again now at 83.7 KG, next stop is 75 KG. Let's fucking go, anon!
first full day of zepbound feel pretty good ate 2 bananas and a small plate of hamburger helper/green beans for dinner not being hungry is weird in a very liberating way, but the food does kinda sit in your stomach like a stone for a while after eating it