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>Where do I start?

old.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index

Previous: >>77462006
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Personally, I massively prefered Exemestane (Aromasin) to Anastrozole (Arimidex) for AI. Anastrozole just made me feel weird and Exemestane was just more effective and easier to use. I think I only had to use it like once a week.
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My test burns like a mother fucker, even on small pins. Pip goes away in an hour or so but leaves a lump that lasts for days. I smelled a drop or it and thought I could smell mint but I might just be paranoid.

Is it guaiacol? I know I could send a vial off for testing but I'd rather endlessly speculate.
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Is tren only for hardcore lifters making a living out of lifting? Or could anyone try it?
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>>77477382
dude was an absolute pleasure to speak with, and very patient with my drunk ass. haha!
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>>77477390
your government has ground you into a submissive sheeple. you can literally do anything. repercussions of your actions is a different thing. but, yes, take tren. it's amazing. you do need tudca+nac for liver support, and those are on amazon. you might want bp meds, and statins. probably lookin at 10 weeks on. do 300mg/week. your sleep will go to shit. you'll sweat constantly. you're gonna want all the carbs. stick with a clean diet, get your reps in, and fight the fatigue. you'll love it
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>>77477439
oh, and don't forget to ignore the paranoia. no, there's nobody plotting against you, your girlfriend isn't fucking someone else, and you're not getting fired tomorrow
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>>77477429
he was all into dht's too. that and discussions here got me looking at that chart of different roids again. i really need to branch out
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>>77477349
Hey myostatin mutation anon here
Dont know if you guys remember me from the last fraud thread
Been sedentary beer drinking fuck for 5+ years started working out 2 weeks ago

Got my in body scan.
The trainer was tripping out about my Smm but I dont know what the fuck it even is
My body makes 65% less myostatin
Are these numbers good?
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>>77477349
HCG edition
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>>77477448
Forgot the balding part and prolactin management and turning gay
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>>77477371
why not just as your source if he uses it instead of being a faggot
heating it up might help if you aren't already
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>>77477390
not recommended if you have little steroid experience as it fucks you up a lot longer and harder than most compounds. but you don't need to be a pro

whenever I read competitive BBs talking online most of the experienced ones actually stay the fuck away from Tren because they've just gone through the ringer with it too much

- t running it currently purely for aesthetics
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>Have to stop mid work out to make rice because tren will not accept anything else and cancels my lifts
>No honey, no sugar pill, no carb powder

It's like having a gf with the mindset of an angry toddler who wants exactly what she wants, right now, and nothing else will do

Forgot to say excuse me princess on last injection I guess
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>>77477586
>>77477563
Are the gains worth it though? Does it help you shed fat while building muscle too?
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>>77477590
Depends on the person I guess. I tolerate the mental sides pretty well so I think it's worth it. Some guys just get hard fucked. Try Ace first, much easier to drop then if you're in the hard fucked cat
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>>77477554
>do you use this solvent that is universally hated and should never be used in normal dose gear
> no anon I would never
Lol. Thanks for the advice
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>>77477551
oh! of course. how silly of me
>>77477590
i recomp very well on tren. some people use it for bulking. some use it to retain lean mass on a cut. it varies a bit, but how you eat can direct your results
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>>77477637
what kind of shit ass ugl are you using you can't ask him a simple question and likely get a new vial comp'd if it turns out being an issue on his side

no reputable lab is going to put something in there and then lie about it

just admit you're a pussy faggot with too much social anxiety to send a fucking email like anyone else would
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>>77477761
Maybe I should take tren
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>>77477363
Seems reddit agrees, they updated the wiki to tell noobs to use aromasin instead of arimidex at some point since I last scrolled through it
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Is it normal to feel flat after pinning test ?
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>>77477871
Like anhedonia? Any steroid can cause this. Less likely with test but not impossible and more likely from crashed e2
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>>77477920
Yeah it was test with primo and mast so that might explain something
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>>77477924
primo makes me have a flat mood and feel dog tired even though my e2 isn't "crashing"
great supp but I hate how I feel first 72 hours after
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>>77477590
Don't do it. I look amazing but now I'm gay. Not worth it.
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>>77477924
>>77477925
Both primo and mast work like mild AIs so it's possible the effect is from lowered e2, even if it's not crashed. Your body needs a certain amount of estrogen to produce serotonin and dopamine so if it's running low I'm guessing it doesn't prioritize that as much. It could also just be from the spike in hormones and how your brain handles that (in which case it should resolve once blood levels settle I'd assume)

If it's e2 having higher test to primo/mast ratios should theoretically resolve things (either increasing the test or lowering the primo/mast), but, that's discounting all the potential other variables and personal response factors
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>>77477962
I was gay but Tren is making me have sex dreams about women. why's it always reverse
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>>77477924
>test with primo and mast
Relatively small doses of primo, mast, and EQ all give me anhedonia and anxiety. But I don't get any sides from 19-nors. Win some lose some.
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>>77477590
You have to be perfect with ancillaries and dosage in order for it to be worth it; sometimes it’s trial and error you might need 100mg or 400mg. Mental sides are a meme most of the time but it will fuck you up with acne/insomnia/sweating. Worth it for some but wasn’t for me, but I was fucking shredded with Test Reta Tren.
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>>77477971
Maybe it would be simpler to run a higher dose test with winnys
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>>77477371
Is the vial in complete suspension? Is it cloudy at all?
Also raw testosterone powder smells like a pine tree. Not sure if that helps
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Have the fags over at reddit removed /r/steroids? I get pic-related when trying to visit
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>>77478068
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/

It's up for me. I have a throw away account because plebbit kept restricting what I could see so that might make a difference
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Started 120mg of TRT about seven weeks ago and despite eating at maintenance my weight has gone up ~6 pounds. Does this level off at some point?
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>>77477808
you should. make trenny proud
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>>77478096
probably some water retention. it'll even out soon, if it hasn't already. you should get your test and e2 checked though. might have gone a bit out of whack
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>>77478110
That’s what I’m hoping. Had labs done again two weeks ago and test jumped from 250 to 850 and the doctor was happy with that.
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>>77478096
It's all muscle
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>>77478127
I choose to believe this lie
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>>77478140
thatta boy
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>>77478096
Honest answer it's probably 20/80 muscle and glycogen for that muscle (water retention)
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How should I dose if I’m a fat fuck looking to gain muscle while cutting ?

Thought of like 300mg test 200mg mast
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>>77478162
Yeah I figured it’s mostly just water retention.
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>>77478170
by losing weight first
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>>77478170
Just keep in mind whatever you do, you have higher aromatization and sides, BP issues etc from high bf%. doesn't mean you can't still benefit but you need to be mindful
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>>77478170
600mg if MENT. Trust me
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>>77478239
Should I pop as many Halos as I can too?
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>mfw they give cows tren literally weeks before slaughter

Are we all just turning ourselves into hamburger ?
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>>77477363
Exemestane is better because it's a suicidal AI
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>>77477968
Kek
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okay, so night 4 of pinning, it was the other thigh and it was a good deal more painful than the last times, and maybe more resistance. when i did the pin, i immediately started to feel dizzy, and extremely sweaty for about 5 minutes. did i hit a vein?
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>>77478289
They give tren and estradiol and infinite food. Basically the powerlifter protocol.
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>>77478330
Nice knowing you. You injected covid particles.
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>>77478289
we're all gonna Burger King it, brahs
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>>77478330
Anxiety attack, nothing serious I still get nervous sweats after a year if I have trouble finding non scar tissue. You probably hit a nerve the quads have a bunch.
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>>77478289
>>77478413
>yeah bro just get swole by shootin' up cattle carcinoma chems
I'm frame-moggin' the MSTN mutant guy and just trooning trans-bug instead, meat quality closer to Wagyu flank than some bloated goyburger desu.
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>>77478516
My ass has been really juicey lately I spend more time staring at it in the mirror doing RDL's than biceps doing arms. Not quite wagyu but maybe some fancy cheesecake.
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>>77478516
>bug roids
>not horse roids like EQ and DHB

Ngmi
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>>77478516
You used to be alright but now that you use AI for everything you've really fallen off. Do better
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>just injected straight into a fucking blood vessel
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Is there something like EQ/Boldenone only? I have a vial here that I want to finish asap, but I don't want all the hematocrit that comes from test plus boldenone
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>>77478886
people have done it, though mainly for getting dry when already lean. like anything else, mileage will vary
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>>77478544
>Tachyon lays on her back
>legs pointing straight up
>long enough to reach your face
>your dick between her thighs
>your face burried in her soles
>she calls you her little guinneapig
Coming buckets just thinking about it tbqhfamalam
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>>77479037
I see. Thanks. I'll (probably) try it
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What happens if you blast and eat maintenance calories do you recomp or is that a meme and I should stick to cutting and bulking?
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>>77479361
can you really not think about this logically for 2 seconds and comprehend the answer
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>>77477349
>old.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index
>reddit
Go back.
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So is Anadrol the same idea as Anavar dosing as you want to keep stable blood levels and should take 25mgx2 one in morning one at night? Or should I just take 50mgx1 preworkout?
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Since they wont answer me in the other bread
>is it true that roids are illegal?
>if so, why?
>are they also against the rules in competitive lifting and if so are competitors tested for roid use?
>if roids are illegal how/where do people obtain them?
Just curious, I have no interest in using them
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>>77479459
New fag detected.
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>>77479459
Ok zoomer.
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>>77479497
All orals work better using it 2x12h instead 1x24h/pwo
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>>77479509
>redditor calling someone else a newfag
The fucking irony. I have been here since 2011, and yes, that does indeed make me a newfag, but not as new as (you).
>>77479530
Older than you, nigger.
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>>77479501
>is it true that roids are illegal?
Yes and no. Most popular AAS are most places, but there are many notable exceptions.
>if so, why?
Many are quite unhealthy from causing cancers to heart attacks, but again many notable exceptions.
>are they also against the rules in competitive lifting and if so are competitors tested for roid use?
Generally yes but ecdysterone for example is a weird edge case where it's only montiored by WADA currently even though they know what it do.
>if roids are illegal how/where do people obtain them?
Everything from clandestine manufacturers to corrupt veteranians or just buying legal shit like ecdy pills off Amazon or in spinach.
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>>77479534
i figured but wanted to ask here before doing a deep dive into differences between most orals. Appreciate it anon
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>>77479550
>actually gave good answers
Ty. So does that mean most competitive lifters are natty or do they all get away with it even though its against the rules?
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>>77479558
The real answer is it's probably pretty variable. Detection windows tend to be fairly short for most AAS which means a lot of joocers likely don't get caught if they discontinue far enough ahead of a dope test, but despite that it's not like they get popped for dirties at such an insanely high rate you can realistically infer they're ALL roiding.
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>>77479578
ty
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>>77479428
nope.
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>>77478734
Just be glad it wasn't tren
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>>77479596
>nope
okay, I like you now. yes, you can recomp, though you eating at maintenance on a blast technically makes it a very mild cut (because your body is burning more calories than your regular maintenance on the increased steroids). the nutrition partitioning of the steroids makes it more efficient/plausible than a natty attempting this
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>>77479597
supposedly the tren cough is entirely from the oil carrier and tren itself isn't supposed to be any worse than any other steroid injection for this

the theory is that most guys don't pin other steroids frequently, but they do tren ace. so it gets a disproportionate reputation for it

which I think anyone whose experienced tren cough can safely say is total fucking bullshit
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>>77479539
>I have been here since 2011
Clearly you haven't because we've been using that reddit link in every thread for the best part of a decade.
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>>77479617
They really just out themselves, don't they?
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>>77479616
Yeah I guess it is because I've gotten it just from test.

But for some reason it's always 10x worse on tren
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>>77479671
it's definitely worse from tren, there's no way I can believe it's just oil. the tren pre-rapes the oil before it, in turn, rapes your lungs
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>>77479557
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I feel so fucking free injecting 1x week my TRTs dose (100-130mg test c). Why should I stop if no sides at all
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>>77479558
There is a good example from cycling. They would do their hard workouts and then put testosterone patches on their balls for fastest absorption.
That would maximize testosterone exposure in the recovery window and minimize detectability if a urine sample was needed the next day. It also is useful because testosterone naturally goes down after hard workouts, so the patches would be less suppressive than at other times.
Now that was to circumvent USADA and WADA testing, but if you are in other sports the testing is not extensive so you can get away with a lot more, though generally it will be with short-acting "bio-identical" compounds.
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>>77477478
Nice
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>>77477478
Uhhhhhh can I drink your blood?
No homo
Fuck you lucky asshole
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>>77478330
oils in blood trigger a nerve response that would feel like you're inhaling super dry cold air straight into the back of your throat, and you'd have a gnarly coughing fit like you inhaled liquor and your body is trying to forcibly expell your lungs through your mouth. dizzy is probably what other anon said. pay attention to how much you tense up next time, try and relax, and remember to breath
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>>77479909
why would you? if you feel fine, keep at it. check bloods sometime for general health
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Anyone else experienced random overbearing pedophilic thoughts while on T? How did you deal with it
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>>77480069
lmfao
never ever take tren bro
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>>77480069
No.
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>>77480069
none of the pedos on those predator videos were ever on gear. it's low T / high E behavior
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>>77480080
Damn might just be me then
>>77480075
Believe me I won't.
>>77480101
So you're saying the answer is a higher dose…?
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>>77480101
A lot of people who look like crap are on roids
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>>77480069
Ye, on tren
My browser history is 90% loli doujinshis
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>>77479909
You'd feel better injecting more frequently
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>>77480069
Real pedo or ""pedo""
Liking tight teens is normal, real kids is a problem and you need help
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>>77480213
Both
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>>77480037
Based
>>77480143
APPARENTLY it raises more the hematocrit (I tried), I don't have the energy now to explain so I'll just search and past the ChatGPT answer (as a toten of respect for my fraud bros):
>"More frequent microdosing can maintain a higher and more sustained average testosterone exposure with less time at low trough levels, potentially producing greater continuous erythropoietic stimulation and higher hematocrit.
However, this is not guaranteed; direct daily-vs-weekly cypionate evidence is limited, and total exposure matters more than frequency alone.
PubMed PMID: 34445892. "
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>>77480241
Also just remember that ED vs EOD is basically the same for your body.
ED is convenient for mega blasts though
See you tomorrow bros
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>>77479961
Interesting.
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>>77480069
Maybe it's just the libido going crazy? I would stop before it destroys your life if you get what I mean
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>>77480249
The forbidden fruit is always the sweetest though.
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>>77480241
i feel like it has way more to do with just genetics and lifestyle
doing cardio is actually important because it increases plasma volume for lower hematocrit
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any specific videos or images that helped you find ventroglute location?
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>>77480263
it's your gluteus medius
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I've been on Reta for 6 months lost 50 pounds but I feel like it isn't working that well anymore.
Should I take a few months off Reta, try to maintain this weight and start over again maybe early next year?
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>>77480253
Kys
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>>77480270
Sometimes these kind of pause doesn't work. So keep it in mind... Another option is increase the dose
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>>77480235
>>77480253
Kys. Pedo scum.
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>>77480270
Up the dose like you should be doing.
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>>77480069
BASED
>>77480140
BASED
>>77480253
BASED
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>>77480069
on tren I might jerk off to the sexual taboo/sadism of it but actually seeing children I felt nothing or disgust
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Why do I keep getting super stiff muscles in my arms and my hands falling asleep while I’m sleeping. Never happened before test
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>>77480562
Subconsciously tensing your muscles, are you stressed? Have you tried jerking off to what we were talking about above?
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I may be getting a bit a gyno on one side. I have some Nolvadex handy but should I wait until my blast is over to take it?
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>>77480593
you were blasting without AI/p5p/caber?
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If I have gyno starting when is it acceptable to just troon out since it can’t be reversed?
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>>77480606
1mg AI weekly and 100 mg of P5P daily. No Caber. Last labs had my E2 at 53 pg/mL and prolactin at 7.7 ng/mL. Fwiw, I had gyno as a teen and did surgery to remove it years before pinning
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>>77480722
I thought after surgery it can't come back anymore??
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>>77480069
>How did you deal with it
Sucking a shotgun will help
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>>77480562
Classic symptoms of carpal/cubital tunnel. Take a break from heavy pulling for a while and use straps on pull day. Trust me if it gets worse it will be painful.
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>>77481168
I didn't exactly ask to be born like this.
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>>77481246
Well I hope that you remember Tyrone and his crew this, whenever they be raping and torturing you before burn you alive etc (what you deserve)
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>>77481267
You have a strange obsession with black dicks and torture. You okay?
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I want to dive more into the subject of Lust in association with Vanity in this fraud atmosphere but not necessarily the younger targets though I presume more fraudsters lie about their dark desires and act holier than thou about them. Some fit bros lie about using gear, and some deviants lie about their sexual urges.
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>>77481321
what the fuck are you talking about
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>>77481319
THE PEDO IS OFFENDED EVERYONE
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Is there a DHT derivative that makes bones really strong? Muscles are only as strong as the bones they're attached to. Primobolan enhances your blood by enhancing the cells that make your blood cells. Maybe there could be something similar for the cells that make bone cells.
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>>77481449
DHT derivatives can't aromatize to estradiol which is crucial for bone strength in men. Look into Teriparatide/abaloparatide/romosozumab
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Just pinned some TMP and my thigh hurts like hell. Is this amount of Pip normal?
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>>77481246
neither did anyone else ask for you to be born. resolve it, do a flip
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>>77479617
"Here" does not mean in this specific thread nigger and having been a reddit faggot a decade ago doesn't make you any less of a reddit faggot now so I will continue telling you to go back. Go back.
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>>77481472
what's tmp?
just do everything normal. normal drugs, normal injections and you won't have problems
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>>77481484
Test/mast/primo aka Androbolan
I did everything normal and to procedure
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>>77481483
I've never used reddit, it's a wiki you dumb fuck. You got exposed hard for being a fat dyel loser who has never been here before. Now make some on topic posts or fuck off.
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>>77481483
lurk moar is the most basic foundational rule of the entire site yet you're apparently too low IQ to apply it to this thread after over a decade of exposure. I'd sooner take redditfags
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I've come to realize if I'm a complete hermit, tren e is fine
If I have to socialize even if the experience is positive, I will spend the next hours-day obsessing over frame control and power dynamics that don't exist like a complete psychopath

fuck me up
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>>77481483
Speaking of Reddit, I read about Test/Mast/Primo there and yeah it’s basically supposed to have awful PIP because of the combination. So there you have it
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>>77481545
I think more people should be hermits, I only leave my cave for work and holidays or special occasions enough to keep part of my friend group.
Home gym masterrace
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>>77481534
Irrelevant, any non derisive mention of reddit will be met with derision no matter how long you faggots have been discussing reddit. Now go back.
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>>77481669
How old are you? 14? What kind of retarded teenager cares about a fucking website so much. Reddit owners destroyed your life or something
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>>77481642
hell yeah brother
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>>77481686
Just ignore it. Xe wants attention and is mad xirs gender transition journey wasn't upvoted on plebbit
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>>77481696
Kek you're right
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Feels good to have e2 again after crashing it.
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>>77482020
Just estrogen max at that point
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>>77482035
Nah. I hate taking forever to cum which is why I crashed it in the first place.
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>>77482041
how long? my ex hated my 30mins+ but i like the hot sweaty journey not the destination
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>>77482063
About that long. I'd just rather have control since the 30 min takes mid day quickies off the table
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>>77481503
What are the exact compound and their esters? What concentrations are the compounds in?
I ask because the ester attached to each compound makes it easier to weigh in on what maybe giving you pip.
Example test p and primobolan acetate naturally have pip associated with them in common concentrations. Even real accurately dosed primobolan enanthate can have a bite to it regardless of carrier ie cottonseed oil to miglyol 840.
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>>77482063
>>77482103
man i wish. i didn't bother managing prl last tren time, and i got juuuuust out of range enough for it to take me a good 90+ minutes. drunk wife enjoyed the hell out of it. sober wife is now going to physical therapy for resulting pelvic issues. whoops
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Never doing another cycle when it's warm
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>>77482195
My wife prefers 30+ minutes. Especially since I like to do most of the work. But I need to come at least twice a day to keep the tren thoughts away. Real sex seems to help more than jerking it.
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>>77482224
Cycling in winter is the way. Excess T literally stops you from getting cold, it's great.
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>>77482195
I miss being in a relationship with a succubus, now that I am blasting I need to coom constantly or I get irritable I never seem to be in a sexually healthy relationship on gear so I just jerk off a lot.
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>>77477349
Japanese east asian men fucking girls
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If I get too hot and sweaty I lose my boner
Can do zone 2-3 cardio for multiple hours on end though, just not fucking for some reason
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>>77482364
Yeah it's distracting. Like you're making a mess or something. I just chill for a bit and drink some water.
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>>77482374
If you aint having water breaks and rest periods you aint fucking, you are having sex. I fuck.
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8x3 Mating Press
12x5 Downward facing doggystyle
5x5 Ass to Mouth
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Currently running 750 trst e homebrew injected eod, 4 weeks into my cycle. This is the 3-4 cycle of test e i have run and i wqs breaking old pr’s in the first 3 weeks of use and currently weigh the most i have ever done, this cycle is just hitting different likely going to trab some anadrol to finish this cycle out and oartially considering saying fuck it and hopping on tren a for that last month or so to burn off this excess fat and get back down to <10% from the 16-20% i am now. lifting 6 days per week ppl and eating 3500-4500 calories per day
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Not trying to be funny or a wise guy, but I plan to compete in physique next year. It’s week 9 of my blast (800 test 500 EQ). I am adding 50mg var the last 8 weeks

Do I need to actually worry about putting on too much muscle for this class? I want to do classic but I won’t be big enough, I will up the dosages next offseason for that
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>>77482487

Nvm

Wtf I looked it up and for 5’11 physique cap is 209 and classic is 219? That’s it? Nvm 209 on stage is big as shit I’m not going over that cap (if it’s right)

I thought physique was like a twink category with like a 190 lb weight cap?
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>>77477349
Steroids truly make grotesque physiques
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>>77482502
I'm already roiding Harry, you don't need to sell it to me.
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>>77482500
yeah the top physique guys are fucking gigantic in the off season. and since legs aren't a big focus that makes their upper bodies even more ridiculous
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>week 7 of test
>got my first ever mire
Im never coming off
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>>77482538
I'm sick of the mires because I don't think I deserve it I should be bigger I should be leaner but I am not.
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>>77482539
That’s the thing. I felt/feel small but I walked into the store and got a verbal mire and realized I’m bigger than I’m perceiving myself. Now I want to go even harder and inject more Chinese chemicals
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>>77482543
I just think they're exaggerating, obviously I have body dysmorphia and I know I have made great progress but I don't think I have earned the compliments I get.
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>>77482234
aaaaabsolutely
>>77482317
life can be so cruel :(
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>>77482396
hell yeah! right behind you. 600 right now, waiting for a new bottle of mct to arrive. then i'll bump up to 750 test + 500 deca. 6 months of clean eating, 4300kcal/day, and +30lbs without titties



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