>Where do I start?old.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/indexPrevious: >>77447568
You do not.
>>77462006i hate this chart
Is 2 lb a week during a 800 test 400 EQ bulk too much? Started from 12% bf and I already included water gains so that’s pure fat/muscle I think so but part of me doesn’t give a fuck and just wants to maximize what I get from the gear. Can always cut with reta
>>77462092i don't think there's a good answer other than you don't want to bulk on shit food. keep the calories up but don't justify eating trash just because you're on gear and had a good workout.
All you need is enclo and tadalafil
>on tren >don't bother to mention to gf >we're temporarily long distance >she's always been a prude about any kind of sexting etc >suddenly out of no where she wants to sext, send dirty pics, horny asfI'm guessing tren apathy is making me seem less available = more desirable unfortunately tren apathy is also making me not really a give a shit about itI would've been over the moon for this crap previously. now it's getting irritating having to respond to it at times tren giveth and tren taketh away
>>77462726firstly women sense hormone levels in ways men can't. they're kinda evil and borg-like in that way since they will tell each other about stuff they notice but not you.secondly be careful bro because you may be on the path to aggressive gay sex hookups.
>>77462753>aggressive gay sex hookups nothing I don't do on the DL without tren anyway. holes a hole brother
>>77462006>no bug steroids>thread dies of a-fib and H.C.M.Don't trust charts made by boomers who can't do literature searches of compound spaces.
Primobolan
>>77462726I'm always like this but after like 6 or 7 weeks a switch flips and I'm crazy down bad. It's like once my body adjusts to the tren I become obsessive.
>>77462092Eq is derived from test. Use eq or test as a base at like 200g max. Load up on other steroids at like 500g. You don't need 800 fucking test. That is how you get an enlarged prostate or high estrogen. Deca is 11x more anabolic than test and like 20% as androgenic. You only want enough test to maintain basic metabolic functions like your dick still working.
>>77462762Redpill me on inkosterone
>>77462868>Redpill me on inkosteronePicrel and here is one of the latest in vitro studies on it: https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/27/10/4204
Fun facts about EQ:Dbol is methylated EQEQ in large doses converts to DHB in the body. Even at heroic doses EQ is a shit drug
>>77462865EQ is not a suitable compound to replace test.Although I do 100% agree about using trt test doses and letting the anabolics be the workhorse.
Is anyone seeing this "vetting of sources" thread on meso?Is there really only one high quality source in EU rn?
>>77462892NeatCompare to ecdy on anabolic effects?
Lean bulk400mg test + 200mg primo a week20mg tbol a day Would it work ?
>>77462894Free pseudo AI, cardio boost, vascularity with a bit of lean gainsWhat's not to loveOnly boomers, that think their anxiety isn't crashed e2 but the horse semen they are injecting, hate itMaybe the roiders who think 1g of gear is a lot regardless of what the compounds are but it's rude to dunk on literal retards so I'll only mention the boomers
>>77462051?
>>77462865>>77462905I have some DHB lying around and want to do a cycle.I was thinking about keeping my test at cruise dose (150mg/week), or upping it to 500mg during the cycle.I take it you anons would recommend the former? and running like 200mg DHBI gained 10lbs lean mass on 100mg DHB prior to this
>>77463027How was your experience with DHB ? Always wanted to try it
>>77462907Everywhere sucks right now because baby ugls can't get raws and equipment out of China like they used to atm Meso has always been a garbage place however
Maaaaybe I should get my blood test done before I put it off too long.
Anyone got Uk sources, or failing that a source where a man could find sources.
Posted late in the last threadWhere do you guys buy your hcg? Can't find it for under 200 a vial. Amerimutt if that matters.
Got my package btw they ate my lie right up>>77457705
>>77463013Not the guy you asked, but it's overly simplistic. However it is not factually incorrect. The issue is that even within each family, they have wildly different anabolic and metabolic effects. It's most useful for anticipating sides since they tend to be similar in each family.
so your bf makes you aromatize more right, im trying to estimate my bf before my first cycle. would you still recommend 500 test if i was 17%? i assume i am somewhere between 14-17%
>>77463980Yeah it's fine
>>77463655eroids dot com - then click on the UK tab.
>>77463820What lie did you use in the end?
>>77463027problem with DHB is while it definitely works well it's also toxic at a certain point but nobody is exactly sure how or whymuch better to up the dose of whatever is predictable
>>77463986Hair strengthening supplement or some bullshit like that, that's what the seller told me to say because he had declared the package like that.
>>77461350>>77461949Someone answered my question in the previous thread so thank you anon, I do have a maybe-retarded follow up though, should Clenbuterol be taken weekly, bi-weekly...? And if 40mcg is the standard dose, does that refer to how much you take over a week?
>>77463728goodness... i don't even think 10,000iu kits cost that much. the pep vendors on the gray (grey?) telegram all sell hcg
>>77463980yeah, but you're probably 20-25%. still fine though. it literally does not matter. take your ai
>>77464061not that anon, but, wut? i thought clen was 40mcg ed? i think he meant the effects fade in, so taper your dosage up to see how it hits you. start at 20, and work up from there
>>77462915>Compare to ecdy on anabolic effects?No literature on that yet, but figure I'll drop picrel as another emerging bug roid lead compound for LabRatChads.
>>77464061this is what clen 40mg looks like daily dosage
>>77463045I've ran it twice and found it underwhelming in low doses. I ran it at 700mg with far better results.
>>77463980yeah bro its more complicated than just your bodyfat percent. People aromitize at much different rates regardless of fat. You just have to learn what high and low estrogen feel like. You will pretty quickly get a handle on it. Now I can recognize even moderately high or low estrogen. Its going to be different for everyone but for me I will start to feel tears coming or feel uncharicterically emotional if it gets high, and I get "hot flash" sensations if it gets low as well as weaker boners if it gets too low. You just have to learn to spot it. And remember you wont just have a gyno explosion because your estrogen got elevated. you have to live with high estrogen for a long ass time to get gyno. Its really not a concern when you learn to recognize what high E feels like.
>>77462006My T levels are 792 nl/DL as per my most recent blood test. Would I have better gains if my T levels were closer to 1000 ng/DL?
>>77464358800->1000 doesn't do anything
>>77464407How high do I need to go then?
I cant find a place to buy test without a perscription anyone know a good source? for steroids i just check forums but I cant find anything
>>77464419you're not going to get much improvement until like double that at 2000, but even that will be relatively slow.
>>77464435What?
>>77464462my mind moves faster than yours peasent kneel and be judged
>>77464474too fast to find a source, apparently good luck with that speedy Gonzales
>>77464474Once you hit age 18 you’ll be able to find a source
>>77464358Your T levels are fine unless you want to blast and get it up to 2000+. 1000 is TRT tier and won’t do much for you
Can you combine orals and if yes which?Like if you do half dose of 2 orals instead of full dose of 1 oral?
>>77464329this is great info, thank you
>>77464358It won't help because you have a terminal case of being a dyel who asks retarded questions on a basket weaving forum. Go troon out. >>77464407>>77464541Lol you niggers are retarded. You'll have double the free testosterone on trt, even if you limited your dose to keep your total around 1000.
>>77462006Whenever I inject HCG, I think about the massive pregnant braphog whose piss particles in injecting into myself.Anyone else?
>>77464636Take meds niggaBros how long is shipping to EU from EU warehouse? I need some test and tren in my life right now everything is fake gay and retarded when you are natty
>>77464435literally google steroid source forums, and steroid harm reduction forums. i don't know how you couldn't find sources
>>77464636it’s guinea pig urine now
>>77462006How much do you actually keep after a basic cycle e.g. test +dbol/tbol? I've seen anything ranging from 10-70% with a good pct
Today is the start of my 6th week of 500mg test and I finally feel it kicking in. Feels good.
>>77464636Its not the 1980's anymore.you're injecting recombinant HCG grown in chinese hamster ovaries
>>77464828Keep what? Muscle mass? Natural Testosterone? BMI? Come on use your big boy words Ranjeet.>>77464864God bless anon, I am week 5 into my blast and feeling JUICEYYYY
Finished my oral test + winny cycle. Kept most of my gains. Feelsgoodman
take the horse pill
>>77465367This should be illegal.
>>77465367I bet it grips like chalk on a DL PR
>>77465367Should I horsemaxx and take EQ + Sustanon combo vial during my cut
>>77463045packed on purely lean mass at 100mg, became extremely vascular, no pip or any really deleterious effectsI'd recommend it
>>77465367Might as well just fuck an actual horse
>>77465634I would love to
>>77465630Did thr vascularity stay? I ran eq once ever, and not even a large amount. Arm veins stayed popped permanently after that. Fortunately my hematocrit came.down about 6 months later.
Week 7/20 of 800 test 400 EQ. bf went from 12% to 13.5%. Was thinking of pausing it at 15% bf week 13/14/15 and adding 50 var to cut on a big 1-1.5k deficit for 2-3 weeks before resuming bulkI have no timeline but I need to build as much muscle for next year since I want to get on stage. I just don’t want to fuck my health even more getting fat
>>77464902Obviously muscle mass. I thought that was obvious lasquandarius
>>77464136>>77464243Thanks guys, wish me luck
>>77463980No, it's bullshit. The number of fat cells you have is the number of fat cells you have no matter how full they are. Being metabolically unhealthy can cause estradiol systemic "leakage", but there is literally 0 (zero) mechanistic evidence that high body fat increases aromatization.
>>77465996Yes there is
Rank all the steroids you tried so far
>>77466126Best to worst IMO:TestAnadrolNPPAnavarTren
>>77466126worst is MENT
>>77464864YeeeeeeWe're all gonna make it
>>77465476kekd
>>77465431If you wouldn't fuck her, you need to up your dose It's a litmus test for if yours is too low
>>77466126Tren Anadrol Primo Mk-677 (think that's what it was, surprisingly good pre-work out)Var Test (after a decade+ I fucking hate test, it exists as a base) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HGH (pretty sure this did my thyroid in) I realize mk is a sarm and hgh a peptide but you get it. I've not been too adventurous
>start taking EQ>mom asks why the long face I’m screwed aren’t I
>>77466154>>77466243You guys are making me wanna try Anadrol, I only ever tried var as oral before.Any tips?
>>77466287I FUCKING LOVE ANADROLI GET A GOOD PUMP THEN I PLAY VIDYA AND MY FOREARM BURNS LIKE A FAJITA SIZZLER THEN I GOON AND IT FUCKING BURNS EVEN MOREARMS LIKE ROCKSBICEPS LIKE STONESANADROL
>>77466235Her clit is probably bigger than my dick at this point...
>>77465527EQ fucks my cuts up royallyMakes me so hungry they turn into bulksFun compound tho
>>77465367I came
>>77466154dbol - feel fucking great on dbol, great pumpstren - I love the pain, feel so alive and passionate, look great, downsides: sleepy and hungry all the timetestnppanavar - good pumps but doesn't do much even at 50mg/dayEQ - crushes my e2mast - does literally nothing but dry me outproviron - does nothing
>>77466367I forgot, Dbol didn't do anything to me
>>77466287it's extremely liver toxic, makes my piss dark and and stunts my appetite every time, so watch for that and don't run it too long. however, the rock hard muscle and strength gains are 10/10
>>77466307gotta embrace the challenge and maintain dominance
>>77466340I mainly wanted the endurance boost for my cardio. I keep the dose low enough and take Reta
>>77466395How much of the strength do you even keep after hopping off
>>77466425I always see a sustained increase in my lifts but I generally use it to kickstart then drop once my enanthates start hitting, so that might be helping the mass it provides doesn't drop fast, just the rock hard water in muscle feeling you'll see the difference after taking it 100%, Adrol is powerful
>>77466416In fact I might add some NPP for joint support as well, even though it isnt meant for cutting.
>>77465867hard to say, I've always been a vascular guy, it just made it more so. I think I'm back down to my baseline but also I lost the mass from it so
>>77463997I got bloodwork after running DHB and everything was in range. I think the toxicity is a myth, at least at the doses I was running
So what do you take if you just want to replace the testosterone the Jews took from you with microplastics? I don't really want to /fraud/ I just want to see what I "should" look like in the non-pozzed timeline.
>>77466595There is this thing called TRT, testosterone replacement therapy. It does exactly what you asked for.
>>77466534I always wondered why it’s not ever common or talked about. Is there some hideous drawback to it ?
>>77466595You're not a skinny fat dyel because.of the jooz or microplastics
>>77466595The drop in testosterone for modern males is from obesity and sedentary lifestyles. If you want it back run your ass and lift weights.
>>77466940Run where? It is all concrete and asphalt and niggers outside
>>77466960you sound like the kind of spiritual nigger who prefers excuses. I'd take the kikes over you
>>77466534>>77466600I haven't tried it but all I've seen is bad stuff for anyone trying to use it long term when it's the real thing. It's been popular long enough that plenty of people have had raws tested and brewed themselves. There is also a lot of faking going on and a lot of grifters who will say it's just a stronger primo.It's the same level as tren for boosting strength and nitrogen retention, but doesn't have the same mental problems. However it seems to always eventually cause very high systemic inflammation. Apparently combining it with tren is extremely bad. You could speculate that since tren is already known to be strong in it's anti-glucocorticoid and pro-inflammatory effects, DHB probably works along similar pathways. It's sneaky in its damage because mentally it's just like DHT and it takes time for the physical problems to kick in.I know there are bodybuilders who have used it but I haven't seen any that would continue to use it as a mainstay.
>>77462241How high would it push my natural test that’s already right at the top of the bottom range?
>>77467253I've literally never seen a faked gear, peptide or roids. Can someone please show one example. Not under dosing, not solvents, but "sir this primo is actually mast" or whatever. I don't think it happens. It's just something chuckleheads repeat on anon boards.
>>77467366Look at deuschem thread on meso i think they did some fuckups recently
>>77467276not that anon, but there's literally no answer for this. responses are uniquely individual. having said that, some (dumb) docs use pills to bring t levels up in hypogonadal men. docs also target minimal dosing for acceptable range values. so if you're at 2500tt, expect it to bring you to 400-500. any doc doing this over pushing oil will never want you higher than 600tt
>>77467482250tt, not 2500. derp
>hit that stage of tren where all food tastes rotten, expired, terrible or like nothing about to be a cut
>>77464636Just have sex
I'm a powershitter I cut from 30-35% BF to 20% in about 6 months with TRT and Reta.Winter is approaching so I want to start bulking/blasting around October for 4-5 months to hit some PRs then I can cut again early next year, hopefully get leanish (11-13%) by next summer.The issue is I won't be lean enough to start a bulk even this October, is there a way to lean bulk without getting fat?Or should I just continue the cut and get lean asap? The issue with continuing the cut would be I would probably get lean by January/February and I can't go to the beach that early or show it off anywhere, and it would feel wrong to bulk during the spring/summer so I'd rather bulk during the winter ideally.
Revised cut cycle from fatass to fit :Reta 5mgClen 20mcg a day Test C 200mg Test P 50mg Eq 250mg (mostly for cardiovascular performance)Does it work ? >>77467590How much was your trt dose ? I want to do the same
>>77467590There is ONLY lean bulk, every other "bulk" is just eating shit and coping. You eat the same lean food you have been eating to cut/maintain but you add carbs and calories to fill an extra 6-700 cals above maintenance.
>>77467614200 test 150 mast 3iu gh and reta slowly increasing 1mg per month Im at 8mg rn.I guess it ain't exactly "TRT" but I don't give a fuck call it whatever you want.I dropped from 133kg to 110kg, 190cm tall.>>77467616Yea I guess you're right, all my previous bulks I ate way too much shitty fast food with high fat, I will do it proper this time around. I guess I want to know besides that is there anything I can do to minimize fat gain?
>>77467643Cardio? Your body will make less fat if you are 20% BF compared to the 30ish you were earlier. Don’t eat too much excess calories and gym with more intensity pretty much.
>>77467643Does the mast help with gym energy or performance ? Thinking of trying it myself
>Masseron>Prime-oballin>Trannybalogna>Bestosterone>Analvar>Analdrool>HGHitler>Equalrightspoise>Nandosrolone>Redditrutide>Tardzepitide
>>77467778Am I the only one in the history of /fraud/ who found trannys even less attractive on tren? I think I'd even fuck another man before such abominationsThe tomboyish ftms and roided out women would also be fine
>>77467832no, you are a straight male. I had this convo with a coworker about how my lust and bar for women attractiveness went nosediving after Tren. I had no want to fuck a tranny/man though, just fat chubby thick women with hairy bushes and armpits and MAYBE latina but never niggers.
>>77467778>Diversityboldenone
im attempting to do my first cycle 500 test ED and 100 HCG ED in the same needle, Subq. is the belly a bad idea for an injection zone. i may end up switching to shallow IM, but is HCG shallow IM a bad situation? which zones would you rotate if you were attempting subq like this?
>>77467990I hope you arent doing 500mg Test/HCG every day. I imagine you mean 500mg/100mg per week split into every day injections. Belly is bad for that much at once yes you will have a bump and depending how lean you already are it will be obvious when your shirt is off and could bruise. Belly is good for smaller peptides but ideally you do subQ or shallow IM in regular pinning spots like Delts/Lats/Glutes/Ventroglutes/Quads/Pec etc.I do daily .5ml rotating:>Upper left quad>Upper right quad>Left lat>Right lat>Left Glute>Right Glutedepending how my lifts land on each pin day I do lower quads closer to knee but NOT that close you still need it by the muscle.
>>77468040yeah sorry, i meant 500 a week for the test and 100 hcg per day.
>>77467900>but never niggers proud of you
>tired of feeling like shit>get on test>feel even more like shit but with acne
>>77468306skill issue
>>77462006If i have 300 free t total 10.1 how much mg pw to pin to get at least 2000 plus? Havent used before and need opinions.Also does anyone here cycle ane come completely off, and or use hcg?I am retarded.
>>77468458We can't tell you that you could be a hyper responder and need only 200mg or you could be a fat kike and need 1g. A good bet would be 350-500mg. Cycling off is an option and do PCT but you will lose mass regardless unless TRT.
>>77467527man i wish. i can't get enough carbs, and i put down 5 full on meals a day
>>77468564I love carbs I love carbs carbs carbs I should make bread and cultivate oats and potatoes and buy some rice crispies
>>77468515Ok, thanks brother.
>>77468564white rice and oats have me addicted like nobody's business when the taste issue ain't around. great to keep blood sugar happy too
>>77469410my weird tren addiction is tapioca pudding. i mean it's good any time, but it never crosses my mind unless i'm on tren. then i have a container in my fridge at all times. right there with you on white rice too though
>>77469427You should try the rice pudding, much better imo than tapioca.
>>77463820>that's what the seller had declared the package as (I asked him beforehand)Yeah in hindsight I wanted to tell you to ask the seller what to do in this situation. But, from my readings it's usually cooked. Glad you got your stuff >>77461096I got orders from 3 different suppliers all from glp1 and none of them had any stealth to them lol ig we just used diff sellers. I used jeep bba erp and another I don't remember >>77466960my nigga if that's going to be your mindset I invite you to just inject gear randomly into your body and sit around. You'll see that absolutely nothing happens. There's a guy called boozefitness or whatever and he blasted quite a bit of tren and sat around drinking alcohol. He looks like an intermediate lifter at best. >>77467366there was a batch recently of hgh from bba and a few other sellers with white caps that had 0 hgh in them. BBA still refusing to refund without a jano report of every sale lol. Another one recently is green caps for hgh again, but I am not fully tapped into that one just bba cuz I buy from them >>77467832there's a guy in a telegram I go to a lot that could barely chest press 90lbs so he decided to hop on tren and a bunch of other stuff and now he talks about jerking off to trans porn now
>>77469829boozebag is a sketch comedian who has done similar “experiments” for views this one just hit the roid zoomers that don’t know him. He’s literally a /fraud/ fraud
>>77469456i tried one of the mexican style ones, and i was unimpressed. i think it was just the brand though, because i did stare at it every time i walked by. i wanted it to be good...
>>77466154testhghvareverything else sucks
qsc gh sale just saying
>>77469984QSC is banned from Meso. Too risky
I like anavar
>>77467708Yes you feel fantastic in Mast. In fact I am a firm believer that a DHT like Mast should be ran with every blast. Let put it this way. Mast is extremely effective at reducing SHBG and increasing your total test. I've seen labs from associate's that have ran a gram of test vs 500mg of test with 400mg of Mast. The free testosterone of the test/mast run were higher than the one running a gram of test>>77467366There was a fiasco on ASF years ago where several women had purchased Anavar from a particular ugl and it turned out to be very low dose dbol
>>77466534It is absolutely a myth that DHB causes toxicity. That myth was started cuz retards confused it with oral 1-test because it shares a common name on powder lists which was liver toxic
>>77466367Var, mast and Provi are extremely effective at lowering SHBG. Anyone of them should always be ran with any type of blast for that reason alone. Unless you want to free testosterone gains on the table
>>77466243I agree 100% agree with the idea of using test as a base only and letting other anabolics be the workhorse.
Has anyone found that adding shit to testosterone wasn't worth the added risks/stress on your body? Is simply increasing the test dose usually the smarter move?
>>77470014>several women had purchased Anavar from a particular ugl and it turned out to be very low dose dbolGood. More mega clits.Also, Jo said somewhere that he was lacking definition in his last show because his halo ended up being anadrol.
>>77466126Test (as a base only)NPP my favorite anabolic Var to compliment NPP and testMast to compliment to NPP and testPrimo but at 700mg+Tren base but as a pre-workoutDHB underwhelming at low or high dosesSuperdrol would be closer to the top if I didn't feel like absolute shit on it
>>77470037Oh injectable M-Tren. Same as superdrol and feeling like shit
>>77470027Add a DHT to your test instead of increasing your test dose. It makes testosterone much more effective
>>77470027Test only (with the appropriate ancillaries) is fine up to a point. It doesn't make sense to keep increasing it forever. So it depends on your goals.
>>77464407Except pick you up off the floor if you are an old man. At 600 I was coming apart. At 1100 I am a normal guy again.
>>77469984where do you find them now that those fags on meso deleted the info
>>77469993ok sure but like I said bba literally just dropped 0 gh kits and another seller too. qsc at the very least produces their own gh and meso is full of boomers who gives a shit you'll eat dirt buying from chinks from time to time>>77470095Idk if I can get banned if I actually type it out entirely but you're going to take a normal telegram channel invite and imagine that the weird hash at the end is this instead: qsctgchannel. I hope I don't get banned for this lol
>>77470078placebo
>>77468345Maybe I should add mast
>>77462006You guys need to wrangle your tard>>>/b/952856505
>>77470382People still go on /b/ in the big 26?
>>77470384I like to shit on leftists once in a while. The board is absolute trash, I can only stomach about half an hour. Once in a while you can see the old glimmer but it is beyond saving.
>>77470180thanks man, I appreciate you
>>77470391>Once in a while you can see the old glimmer but it is beyond saving.all of 4chan these days. sad times
>>77462006Serious question and no im not bullshitting.So i have a myostatin mutation. Its a rare variant IVS1+5G>A. My body makes 68% less myostatin then normal people.Are you guys all synthetically trying to copy what my lazy ass gets who wastes his mutant gift?Im literally dont do shit and im big. I sit on my ass and drink beer all day. Ill never lose thisIts gotta be hard to know the moment you stop stuffing gear up your ass you'll deflate in a few months.I literally just drink beer and play games.I started lifting 2 weeks ago after being a lazy ass for like 10 years.
>>77470476Yeah bro, we all want to look like flabby alcoholics
>>77470483But im only 14.1% bf
>>77470485Well then keep cutting until your arms have definition and dont look like sausages
Do they just do a huge blast off season -> prep(cut) with different drugs, then go on stage?I am not gonna have enough muscle after my blast, but I need to let my body recover before another. Am I supposed to build muscle on a 300 test cruise? Or cruise for 2 months then do another off season blast?I’m not ready to prep I need another blast but it’s already been 20 weeks so I can’t just keep blasting. Pls advice. I have the muscle to compete strongly in physique but I want to try classicYes I need a coach
YOU WILL NOT SLEEP ON TRENAFTER 200 I CANNOT FUCKING SLEEPDIAZAPAM, TRAZADONE AND BENADRYL DO FUCK ALL
>>77470673>so I can’t just keep blastingthat’s the neat part, you can go longer
>>77470705isn’t it awesome? my sleep stack for Tren is Catapres, Magnesium, Benadryl. Is it good sleep? Yeah. Is it long sleep? No. I got like 4-6hrs on a good day but if you are running high Tren doses you should be exhausting yourself before bed with cardio/stairs.
>>77470391>The board is absolute trashEver since 4chan started hemorrhaging users a lot of boards have become borderline unusable. It's like only the schizos and spammers stuck around. Everyone moved to Instagram and X.
>>77470673>Am I supposed to build muscle on a 300 test cruise?If you have a significant amount of muscle you aren't building shit on 300 cruise. If I were you I would do physique for this comp and classic for your next.
>>77470506I am :3 thank you frenI literally got yelled at by a pro bodybuilder when he found out I had the myostatin gene and was being a lazy bitch. I appreciated him for that. Imma get real fucking big. If i can match you roiders being natty I will plague these threads forever.Im not ever gonna stop lifting im addicted as fuck its so funIm only 2 weeks into lifting after sitting on ass for years and years
>>77470919Im gonna chase you frauds and I dont know if ill catch up but motherfucker im gonna try :)I did 20 reps on 360 seated dips yesterday and 5 at 410Im chasing the fucking dream boys
>>77464155this shit sounds so based. I wish science would actually happen
>>77467778Massa-ron
been off cycle for 4 weeks and will start a new one in 2/3 weeks depending when i get that new gearshould i just start w both test and tren or do a couple weeks of test to get my body settled?
>>77470919>>77470925>I’m going to better myself to troll you guys so hard!!If that’s what it takes, anon.>>77471129Sussybakanon>>77471208Just start both no reason not to unless you want to finish off the cycle leaning out like people do with Anavar at the end of a blast.
>>77471378Not really to troll I just want to see if my myostatin deficiency will keep me in the same realm as you guys. So not really trolling I genuinely wonder if I can
>>77471384I hope you get huge, imagine adding some gear on top of your natty limit, extreme mogginings and something for us all to strive for. God bless.
Test/Primo/Mast is god
Give it to me straight: How much tren?
>>774716381 million grams of tren
>>77471569Why combine mast and primo? why not one or the other?
>>77471667My badI meant one BILLION grams of tren
>>77471717For cutting , literally God tier combo
been on a TRT/cruise for a while, 180mg a week, I'm not a high responderfinally got my diet sorted but still need to lose weight, started doing cardioI am interested in doing a cycle after i drop the rest of my excess weight, currently 98, down from 106, want to be under 90 before doing a real cycle.Should i just do a standard 500mg test only cycle, or add something else? I was looking at Tren, but the side effects to cardio health are off-putting.
whats the most amount of liquid you can inject subq into your belly before it will definitely cause a lump to form. and can you do this with oil based test at all
>>77471549No im 36 200 pounds and 14.1% bf after sitting on my ass and drinking beer for 5 years.If i added gear to my genetics I would instantly rip all of my joints and tendons to fucking pieces. I literally have to lift lower because I never get fucking sore. Just joint pain
>>77471549I am getting recruited to a study to help muscular dystrophy research so im pretty happy I can help.Alot of people have the mstn variant that gives a modest 5% extra muscle but im at the far far tail of outliers with 65% reduced myostatin. But I have a single allele splice site variant. Double allele people have 0 myostatin and there's like a handful of people on earth with it. Maybe like 10My variant has a few thousand. Didn't know until early this year after genetic sequencing
>>77471968This isnt a brag. My chances of tendon snap city are super high if I went max retard. Bit of a curse in alot of ways
>>77471947I only tested with Peptides and I could see a lump at 0.35ml being about 18% bf. Just do it somewhere like quad or lat.>>77471918Dont just add compounds for first blast, figure out how you respond to either 350-500mg test then next blast add something, or do a cruise dose of test with another like tren/anavar to cut after the blast. Then if you want add something for bulk like Dbol Anadrol or what have you depending on your goal and cycle. No reason to add stuff willy nilly because you won’t know what is causing your sides if you don’t know how you respond to one specific compound dose.
>>77471549>>77471968Bit of deca and GH for the joints. Lift like nick walker and you'll look like nick walker
>>77472009Well im probably going to let my joints heal tomorrow. Ill ask my wife to snag a video of my double negative 410 lb sitting dip concentric eccentric lifts and you guys can let me know if my forms dog shit. Honestly id take shit just for joints I dont care about anything else in /fraud/
>>77472006perfect info, i was about to pin .38 and now i wont bother.
>>77472009This plus Omega3 tbdesu, a good tendon stack could help immensely but if you want to stay natty with your mutant genes go for it. Imagine some TB500 ong bruh
>>77472054Watch a video of nick walker doing his workouts. You'll get the general idea of how he lifts in like 1 minute.Lift like that and it's basically impossible to injure yourself
>>77472086>>77472086I do every single lift extremely slowly like a robot its been the thing to save me I've only lifted again for 2 weeks after being a beer drinking lazy ass for 5+ years. It feels fucking great man. Pic related is what i still have after 5+ years of being fully sedentary slamming beers and junk food.Im not going to lie guys learning about my mutation and finally being pushed to the gym saved my life. I stopped drinking and Ive been eating healthy for the last two weeks and lifting.I should be a 400 pound fat fuck after how much I've tortured my body.Im genuinely excited as fuck to get healthy and big and finally use my gift to better my life.You fuckers have no idea how much I was drinking. Quit fucking all of itThank you grandpa for this myostatin fuckeryI know I still look dyel but fuck dude ive been sitting on my fucking ass for a long time doing absolutely nothing I have never been happierThank you /fit/Thanks myostatin deficiency fuckeryYou fuckers saved my lifeExcuse the laundry everywhere its laundry day
>>77472120I wouldn’t say DYEL you have some mass obviously
>>77472141With how I've lived i should be a 400 pound fat fuck.
>>77472141I can show my beer box room of shame if you need further convincing
>start taking p5p with tren >the hyper confident arrogance stops what the fuckraw trade
>>77472271Preferable to gyno!
i did it. i finally did it. after 6+ months of planning, lurking, and posting constant questions, i did my first pin. it was scary as fuck, ultimately it didnt really hurt much. it kinda aches a little bit right now. god i hope i did it right. i did both test and hcg in one syringe, honestly it was awkward as FUCK trying to get the meds to come into the syringe properly, they just wouldnt come out of the vials smoothly, once i had the pin in the second vial i was so afraid i was mixing the hcg into the test bottle by plunging it back and forth trying to get the stupid thing to dispense. also there was a bubble sitting in the hcg at the bottom of the vial and would not float to the top literally no matter what. I just pinned it. ultimately I dont think I really got any of the hcg in the test bottle but fuck me, it was just so awkward finagling it. next time maybe ill draw the test into the vial first? i did subq maybe shallow IM into top of the glute area. now we wait... fucking hell, what am i doing?
>>77472388Bro just go to a fucking clinic they'll give you that shit even if your test is average
>>77472388>Suck 0.x mL of air into syringe>Insert syringe into vial>Push air into vial>Draw 0.x mL compound into syringe>take out>Suck 0.x mL air into same syringe>Push syringe into second vial>Push rest of air into vial>Suck 0.x mL from second vial into syringe>pull outit's not rocket science but congrats. it's hard to fuck up glute pins so the fact it's sore is basically proof you hit the muscle which is fine. if you mean there was a bubble in the hcg vial it doesn't matter, worst case you suck it in the syringe and push it out the top. Even if you injected that small air bubble it won't kill you unless you do it directly into a vein which you won't. If you get some hcg into the test it doesn't matter.
>>77472438thats what i tried to do, but from the first vial the HCG, the product took some plunging back and forth before it started to flow into the syringe at all, and then i moved to the test vial, preloaded the air into the syringe but then was not able to inject the air into the test vial, it just got too pressurized or something, so i just started drawing even with the air gap at the top still there and again the test barely trickoled into the syringe and i had to plunge it back and forth to slowly build up the amount in the syringe. then i pushed out the air at the top at the end, but there was still a fairly large air bubble trapped in the bottom the syringe that would not percolate upwards no matter what. i ended up injecting it just because i heard there some technique where you inject a tiny bit of air in the end of the shot anyway.but my amaozn needles felt like they sucked complete ass at just sucking either of the compounds into the syringe at all. i did preload the air amount and inject the air into each vial before drawing the same amount. the air only worked with the hcg vial. are my syringes shit? im using 29g 1/2 inch needles
>>77472456normal steroid oil isn't supposed to flow easily into 29g
>>77472456Some air at the end yeah it like seals the wound to stop it from leaking out or something never noticed it do shit honestly. What brand syringes? Can never go wrong with EasyTouch 29g 1/2" 1cc. Some anon recce'd some smooth glide ones before to me and I didn't notice any difference back then.
>>77472466This too, MCT oil most roids are mixed in is hard to draw when cool or into small needles, so to counter this you can heat up the vial in a wax melter/warm water or like... on top of your PC vent fan. Not hot but warmer than room temp. Peptide mixtures flow like fuckin butta
>>77472466so its fine that i had to plunge back and forth a lot? alright. it just made me feel like i was in danger of leaking a bit of the hcg into the test vial because i had to overdraw it a lot and then push some test back into the vial to get the right measurement. i think the hcg stayed separate from the test in the bottom of the syringe so it was probably not mixing? >>77472468amazon generic brand, just says "disposable insulin syringes" on it in blue letters.>>77472470ill remember this. im gonna be pinning every day so ill be here squaking about it tomorrow again im sure
Nandrolone Decanoate is suddenly popularshould i buy one bottle as an emergency supply?
>>77472488DECA has been a thing forever
>>77472515>>77472488fuck, i mean the Undecanoate
>>77472538Idk then but I see NPP finally is in stock I gotta reup soon.
I have a vial of test undecanoate and I might have warmed it too much. It was very hot and the rubber got warm. It didn’t smell burnt. I have burnt vials before and just chucked them. Injected it into delt, now I have pretty bad pip. Started about 36 hours after the injection. The oil went into the syringe warm but I waited a couple minutes, so I don’t think I injected hot oil. Any idea what I did here? Should I just throw the vial away? Maybe test another 50ml into stomach and see if there is a reaction? Sometimes I do randomly get pip but this seems worse than usual, and it has me worried that the vial got too hot
>>77472624Depends what temperature we're talking, it's usually heated to 40 - 70 C when brewing to assist it dissolving and filtering anyway.Probably a coincidental bad pip and nothing more
>>77462006The amount of Chinese chemicals and product flowing through my veins is ungodly
>>77472798My concern is that the rubber melted a bit on top, maybe broke the sealI have done that beforeI don’t think that’s what happened here I will try a tiny injection into stomach to see
>>77472809I am at a very chinese point in my life, after dinner last night I am probably made up of 45% Chinese.
>inject Chinese chemicals>always hungry
>>77472438>Suck 0.x mL of air into syringeWrong from the rip. Absolute retard tier advice.>just introduce oxygen and potentially contaminated outside air into the vial you're potentially pinning from for weeks or months bro
>>77472911While aspiration isn’t necessary it isn’t inherently dangerous if you aren’t a disgusting unhygienic slob from a 3rd world continent such as Europe.
>>77472911There's people shooting up puddle water for years on end and you're afraid of dust in the air? You are injecting bathtub test, lil bro.
>>77473201I started doing everything wrong and its works great>don't alcohol swab anything>don't aspirate>intentionally leave air in IM oil based injections to get that last bit of blessed china ambrosia out of the needle>no infections>no PIPVG, delt and dorsal glute master raceAlso z-track so never any leakage or bleedingFeels good not to suck
>>77471384They say guys like Ronnie Coleman have myostatin deficiency. Maybe you could be a top open bber if you can handle 6+ g
>>77472911air will have to get in no matter what. you can't draw from a vacuum
>>77473299Im 36 famalama that ship has sailed
>>77473299So when I went to my gym last time I did 410 ob seated hammer dips with plated for 20 reps slow eccentric and concentric. So I have literally no point of reference. I've only been lifting again for 2 weeks after that 5+ years of lazy ass and beer drinking.With thr myostatin gene i got it felt fucking great to do but I did have people staring at me. I dont look huge and puffed out from raids.Is 410 for 20 reps good?I literally have no idea if I did something nuts or dyel.Ill get a video for you guys tomorrow.
Started TRT at 120 units a week in two 60 unit doses. Test went from 230 to 850 and doctor seems happy with that. Pray I can actually make some gains.
>>77472475plunge back and forth? so you're pulling the plunger out, then pushing it back in, and repeat? dont do that. hcg is water, so it should flow real easy. maybe take all of 10-15 seconds to draw the dose. oils in a small gauge are gonna take minutes to draw. i use 31g, and some of my high mg/ml brews can take a good 5-6 minutes to draw 1.5ml. just pull the plunger out, and hold it out. if you want to make oils draw faster, do what the other anons said -- warm the oil first, or use leur lock and draw with 21g then swap the needle with a smaller gauge for pinning
>>77473498oh, and dont sweat bubbles. the amount of bubbles you would need to inject directly into a vein to cause problems would terrify you. think of those air bubblers in a fish tank. that tiny thing in a slin pin going into muscle aint doing shit
Has anyone tried sublingual gonadorelin? Is it superior to hcg or at least a viable alternative
>>77473752I don't even think it can be absorbed sublingually, nasal would be your best betGnRH agonists are quite dangerous stuff though, you need to take a really really small dose, and really you shouldn't take more than a single dose. It's not really a replacement for hCG (but it's good for restoring your natural production) because if you wanted to dose it without building tolerance you'd have to take it like every 6 hours. hCG is a little easier and you don't need to worry as much about tolerance because the GnRH system stays sensitized, mostly.
>>77473498>just pull the plunger out, and hold it out.alright, noted.
>>77473840TRT clinics offer the sublingual nowadays but can’t find it for sale anywhere. How is the nasal spray dosed? I know it has a very short half life
what is worse for hair?test + tren + fin/mintest + deca + min only (cant take fin with deca)
>>77474054I lost more hair on 450mg test and 150mg tren than DECA, but it wasn't consistent my body I guess adapted and it stopped shedding and is still full now.
Do i have to be lean before starting a cycle? or will a cycle help me lose weight? Also, recommend a good first cycle
>>77474152You won't notice anything besides losing weight, muscle won't show up and you will aromatase more into estrogen so more AI needed, you probably have a shit diet and will basically waste a cycle. 25% is what I'd say the max is BF%, you could TRT and diet which I lost more weight on that way than with GLP's.150mg Test a week, maybe add Reta
>>77474157>you probably have a shit diet and will basically waste a cyclehad a shit dieti've lost 8kg on my diet so far
old wisdom was get leanish first. But as someone else said GLPs have changed habitsTnT (test and Tirzepatide) are pretty common now and will let you gain modest muscle while losing fat.
>>77474189I tried and it yielded nothing . You should probably do it through a proper TRT channel then start blasting once you get to a decent weight.
>>77474152A cycle can help you maintain muscle on an extreme deficit, but test makes me really fucking hungry. I just cruise when I cut now.
>>77474016Most of the dosing information for GnRH agonists is for women with endometriosis. You can probably try like 1/12th of the dose and dose every 6h.
>>77474152>Also, recommend a good first cycle100mg T daily (700mg/week) for 16 weeks.
>>77474246Daily injections can suck my ballsI have been on TRT for 6 years now, i want to switch to monthly injections because im sick of stabbing myself so much
>>77474248Daily injections are goated. I rotated 6 different injection sites for my cycle. Easy.
Anyone who can't handle daily injections probably don't floss their teeth either, remember that.
>>77474248Use a 1cc luer lock Excel syringe. Draw with an 18 gauge needle then swap it out for a 25 gauge 5/8" needle to pin. Been pinning cyp twice a week for over 6 years and it's a non-issue.
>>77474256i do thati still hate it>>77474255floss daily>>774742526?I use one leg for Test, the other for HCG, swap them every time. Where else can i inject? I've never tried anywhere else, except when i briefly tied to belly fat inject hcg
>>77474261>6?I did delts x2 ventroglutes x2 and glutes x2.
>>77474261In order: VG, lats, delts quads then if I really want to get crazy glutes
I don't understand why lats are not used by most guys. No pip, it's easy, and the lats can handle a lot of oil
night two of pinning, other ass cheek, felt like i put the needle in at a bit of an angle and im guessing it ended up being a buit more subQ than im but i think thats fine... its aching less and stings less too. heating the test vial a bit made a pretty big difference. pulling everything i needed was fairly clean
so when is the first blood test after starting? 4 weeks?
How much strength do you lose months into trt/cruise vs peak cycle?
>>77474313>ended up being a buit more subQ than im but i think thats fineIt's not fine
>>77474380It is absolutely fine, the fuck are you talking about. the only issue with subq is potential irritation/lump, but it'll absorb in time all the same
>TRT balls despite never having pinned in my lifeMaybe I should just bite the bullet and get on HCG…
>>77474378I honestly don't notice a ton of strength loss unless I've transitioned into a cut I feel like a lot of the loss even then is just water dropping that was previously stored in your muscles then again, I preference Tren and Adrol (not together) so I usually feel like absolute shit by the end of a cycle (and in the case of tren stay on trt test for a while before pct)
>>77474380It is fine.
>>77474244The nasal sprays are way too low dosed. Gotta do like 20 sprays a day just for it to work.
>>77474388Take as much as you can anon, women love big balls
Guess I really have no reason anymore to not blast my fucking nuts off. I will never be anything more than what I can do currently and there is no future I envision where everything works out for me. I will blast and blast and blast and hopefully last long enough to be shredded and huge before heart attack or stroke takes me out. I genuinely have no other goals anymore, I have been coasting in purgatory for a few years now and no matter how hard I try to claw my way out I get dragged back down by variables outside of my control. At least I can control my frauding.
>>77474388I feel spoiled my clinics giving me trt, hcg, anti estrogen injections weekly.Feels fucking good
>>77474450Trying to have another kid and the clinic just gave me double hcg after I told them.I asked them how long I can have double dose and they said until I have a kid and winked.Fucking love these chads
>>77474970THAT'S THE SPIRIT!
>>77474970Want to blast my nuts off myself for similar reasons But my bodyfat is high as fuck like 35%. Maybe a more conservative dose like 200mg test / 100mg mast so less aromatisation but that is just TRT at this point . Any tips?
>>77475511body fat really doesn't matter. just have your AI ready. adex is better imo because it simply competes with test so you wont crush your estrogenbut mast is a compliment because it prevents gyno
I'm half way into my second cycle and I still fucking hate pinning
>>77475511Lean out first, necessary no but you unironically will gain more muscle through nutrition partitioning while blasting and medium caloric surplus bulking.
>>77474313nice! keep it up. subq is fine, just takes a bit longer to absorb. oh and if you haven't read about it yet, when you accidentally inject into a blood vessel (it'll happen eventually) you're gonna have a lovely 15 minute long coughing fit and feel like you're dying. it'll pass and you'll be fine, so try not to freak out about it. get an ice pack for the back of your neck, a towel for the sweat, and ride it out
>>77474315levels should be stable at six weeks, but, yeah, 4-6 is often when i read
>>77475511Use aromasin. It's a suicidal inhibitor that won't cause estrogen rebound like adex. It's easier on lipids as well. People tend to overdose it and a little goes a long way.
>>77474970do it. get huge and leave a big corpse
>>77475611Mast absolutely does not prevent gyno that is 100% BS. Keeping your E2 in check is what prevents gyno and that is done with an aromatase inhibitor. I mentioned above that Aromasin is your best option
>>77475611Also adex will absolutely crush your E2 in normal doses. It does not compete with test. It binds to your E2 receptors.
>>77475969and Prolactin, people always forget that...
>>77475969>>77475980i meant that mast is a compliment as the key word. it was worded badly because you're right that you can't just use mast alone but it does reduce estrogen activity in breast tissue so you get less puffiness and eventual growth. i can't agree with you about aromasin. aromasin (exemestane) is the one that can crush estrogen by deleting aromatase, i.e. irreversible.
How much tren do I gotta do to make me stop feeling bad about myself?
>>77476036tren will make you feel indifferent about yourself at first then really fucking bad about yourself 90% of the other time it's like an obsessive paranoia type of bad where it skullfucks you about it and it might not even be something specific you'll just look in the mirror and think everything is fucked, you're ugly, you're small, you're bloated then you'll hang onto that feeling in your nervous system like ptsd and you'll get one moment of clarity where you see yourself proper and are like "oh wtf I look great what was I thinking" then it'll come back again lol,lmao
>>77476057Sounds like me at 15
>>77476062that's essentially what Tren does, makes you into an angsty teenager internally but dialed up
>>77476069But will it bring back the cute scene girl I used to be friends with at 15?If not it doesn't sound worth it
>>77476072the thing about this, is no matter how juiced and big and great you feel about yourself, you won’t get the scene girls because you don’t go to the places they frequent. I used to and keep saying when I get bigger i’ll go back but I will never be happy with my physique enough to go after them again. so I hermitmaxx another year to get bigger and stronger and show off to my 40yo female coworkers with kids and loving husbands at home who are fat slobs but they will never leave them or sleep with me because love is what matters in the end (and money).
>>77476072nothing brings her back, brother I know this pain well keep lifting
>>77476016nta but my experience with AI is that asin is way too strong and even 0.25 mg a week pits my e2 in single digits while asin has a lot more leeway with dosing even if it is suicidal. At this point I mainly use primo as an AI or just run test at trt levels and have another compound as the main anabolic driver.
>>77476123I meant to say that adex is way too strong and asin has more room for error with dosing.
>>77476123I love Aromasin but I forget what days I take it sometimes. EoD turns into E3D then ED then back to EoD>skill issueyeah… I need a whiteboard
>>77476123I'm assuming you mean Aromasin at 25mgs(which is the common dose it comes in) weekly then yes that is a high dose). It can be broken down to 6.5mg weekly which is a more common dose. Adex only blocks E2 at the receptors so you still have high E2 its just blocked. So when you stop you get that high E2 flooded back to your receptors which is suicidal inhibitors are far better. They actually reduce E2. And again DHTs like mast and primo do nothing to reduce breathing tissue. Mast had been clinically researched for this and I had no effect. Again DHTs are not to be used in the place of AIs. People need to stop parroting this. For one newb gear users take this as cannon, then they parrot it and repeat.Although I agree about test being a base only and letting other anabolics be the workhorse. I for one run a 200mg of test and 600-700mg weekly of NPP with a matching dose of a DHT. The DHT compliments test by lowering SHBG. And makes you feel better while using a 19nor. But it in no way takes the place as an AI. It doesn't reduce the chance of gyno at all
>>77476202Breast tissue*
>>77476202NTA but Arimidex/anastrozole is also an aromatase inhibitor, so it does also reduce E2, it's just a competitive reversible inhibitor. It is not an ER antagonist. The only "ER antagonist" in common use is fulvestrant for breast cancer, which also causes ERs to be degraded (and you really do not want to take this)
Does mast make anyone else anxious?
>>77476222Yes that's what said. Aromasin(suicidal) and Adex(non-suicidal) are aromatase inhibitors aka AIs. They do effect the growth of new breast tissue. DHTs even mast does nothing to existing breast tissue or new growth. It was used for women who are undergoing cancer treatment with drugs like aromatase inhibitors because they are now without their primary hormone(estrogen).
>>77476223It makes me anxious if I don't cum enough
>>77476222I'm not trying to be a cock here but mast only is used to treat women with lowered estrogen due to AI treatment. It used as a drug to, for a better term, full in the gaps. Like I said I agree with your point on test base but 100% disagree as a treatment for elevated E2
>>77476222what does Arimidex have to do with Elliot Rodger?
>>77476288you're thinking of creatine
night three of pinning i was pretty afraid to do thighs but i literally felt nothing at all this time which is much better than the others and im really pleased about it, i feel like i did it right for once
>>77476379Ive only ever done thigh or delt myself. Never could find the vglute
>>77476246>DHTs does nothing to existing breast tissue or new growthMechanistically this has to be wrong somewhere because pure AR blockade can lead to breast growth with the same E2 levels>>77476252>Mast only>your point on test baseI didn't mention either of these, like I said NTA>>77476288ER = estrogen receptor
>>77476384lay on the ground or in bed on your sideplace top arm/hand near where the vg is locatedalternate flexing/relaxing your buttocks by fully extending your legsyou should feel the vg activateif not you are either really fat or have no ass
>>77476384lay on bed sidewaylubricate fingerput up your buttthis flexes your glutes and can find the VG easier
Safe to mix more than one steroid in one syringe? Can i mix mast E with tren A with no issues?
>>77476702Short answer: yesLong answer: yeeeeeeeeeeessss
>>77476202Primo does actually lower e2 though. This is measurable and repeatable, you can try it for yourself. It probably binds to the aromatase enzyme but doesn’t aromatize, just like eq (I do realize the eq aromatizes into something, but it isn’t e2) but there haven’t been any actual studies so no one really knows. If e2 is controlled you’re not getting gyno. I agree that mast on it’s own isn’t enough most of the time and it definitely doesn’t do much for the other high e2 sides, particularly oily skin and high bp.
>>77476202I meant adex at 0.25 mg weekly which I corrected in my follow up post. Adex is generally too strong an AI for most guys, even at low doses, unless they’re running test over a gram with no other compounds that lower e2 and even then they only need low doses. >but trt clinics prescribe adex!Yeah and most trt docs are retarded, just like (You) apparently.
Why not blast a year? I started at 200 test and have slowly creped up to 500 after a few months. But the standard 20 week cycle puts me at like a month left. I feel like the test had only really kicked in the past 6 weeks or so. Why stop now as soon as im making good gains?
>>77476876If you feel good and bloodwork is fine, go for it. Lee Priest I think also said off cycling 1:1 is stupid, if you feel good after a few weeks coming off blast 3ish weeks recovery then get back to another 20+wk cycle
>>77476876I personally haven’t ran a cycle shorter than 30 weeks since starting. Once I hit around the 16 week mark I think I plateau on feeling great and having solid gains I ride that for as long as I want before either deciding to cut and lean out or cruise until another blast.
>>77475511reta + test, bitch nigga
so for those of us who are trying to pin every day, can i not return to a pin location until its completely done feeling sore? I was thinking maybe I could do 4 spots in total but im coming up on spot #4 tonight but spot #1 is still achey and even slightly bruised. i guess i gotta do 6 spots in total? is ventroglute and dorsoglute really enough of a distinction to pump around .3ml into both locations without it being too much
>>77477150Just move over slightly from the exact spot, the muscle is big enough
i did dorsoglute my first pin and it ached quite a bit, should i phase out that area and do lats or something instead? shallow IM is what im going for
went to some charity thing the other day, and saw some dude who's obviously roiding. i was drunk as shit, so i walked up to him and asked if he's on gear. dude got so excited when i asked him for pointers. he's married to some asian nurse that gives him his injections. fucking king
Is it necessary to at least have TRT as a base so my cruise dose, extra test during my blast, and fertility drugs are provided for ?
>>77477177hcg monotherapy for trt instead of test is a thing
>>77477199big balls big boobs gang
>>77476123>[adex] is way too strong and even 0.25 mg a week pits my e2 in single digits while asin has a lot more leeway with dosing even if it is suicidal.okay that's interesting because i haven't had that experience.25mg/week wouldn't do that much for me and i've confirmed with estrogen on labs. it also was clearly adex because stopping too fast would bring an estrogen rebound as the aromatase got unblocked.
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>>77477175I love talking shop with random encounters irl if it’s in good faith and not them being faggots.
>>77462006Myostatin mutation anon here again.Got my inbody scan after being a sedentary lazy ass for 5+ years.I dont know how to read any of thisIs this good?The trainer was losing his marbles over smm but I honestly don't even know what it is or why he thought it was abnormal
