Previous >>77485244 What are you taking? How much are you injecting? What weight did you start at and how much have you lost? Questions & queries? >What is GLP-1? GLP-1 agonists are medications that help lower blood sugar levels and promote weight loss. They are available with a valid prescription (commonly known as Ozempic, Wegovy, Mounjaro/Zepbound, etc) or via the gray market in the form of peptides. >How do I get on GLP-1? For the legal brand-name products, you need to have a valid prescription, but it can be very expensive. If you want them as peptides, they are available via the gray market, which is a much riskier area for a siginifcantly better quantity and price. >How do I get into the gray market? Stairwaytogray's main website at www.stairwaytogray.com is the one and only place to start. There are many great guides covering all areas for new players to the scene. Several points to note: >Mods will ban you for positng direct links to gray market sources, so don't risk it >There is absolutely no such thing as GLP-3. It is a common ignorant and uninformed term spread by social media influencers. This includes GLP-2 (which is unrelated to weight loss and is for Crohn's Disease), GLP-4 and GLP-5. They're all false and uneducated terms >NEVER follow the advice of any social media influencer on any mainstream platform under any circumstances. This especially includes Instagram, TikTok, Facebook and YouTube. The consequences are disastrous and even fatal >The gray market is volatile and legally risky. Do your research, learn basic cryptocurrency and focus on your personal security and privacy, and never spend more than you are willing to lose As always, stay safe and be smart.
Know the difference between the agonists. This image and a simple Google search will prevent you from looking stupid in front of everyone. MAINSTREAM GLP-1 BRANDS Semaglutide >Ozempic, Wegovy, Rybelsus Tirzepatide >Zepbound, Mounjaro LESSER KNOWN GLP-1 BRANDS Liraglutide >Victoza, Saxenda Dulaglutide >Trulicity Exenatide >Byetta, Bydureon BCise Lixisenatide >Adlyxin Orforglipron >Foundayo Albiglutide >Tanzeum (cancelled by the manufacturer) UPCOMING GLP-1 AGONISTS Retatrutide >Still in the experimental/testing phase, highly proven results Mazdutide >Dual agonist Survodutide >Dual agonist Ecnoglutide >Single agonist "biased GLP-1"VRX-0075>Quintuple (five) agonistNOT A GLP-1 AGONIST Cagrilintide >Amylin receptor Eloralintide >Amylin receptor Petrelintide >Amylin receptor
And finally:>Ignore all non-GLP-1 substances...within reason (Cagrilintide, for example, is fine) >Filtering is optional but recommended >No one cares if you don't like or need GLP-1 injections >Do not engage with the DNPtranny>Go to /fph/ or /fraud/ if you feel like a morally superior faggot
>>77504922TIRZ IS KING
>>77504922Should I use syringes or those auto-injectable pens?The syringes are giving me bruises but the pens, while having the 4mm 32g needle, are expensive.
thread full of a bunch of lazy fat fucks with no willpower who need a tranny drug just to help them put the fork down. no better than fatties who get a surgery to literally shrink their stomach in order to eat less
>>77504966Decided on the pens with the short needles, bit the bullet just now on Amazon
>SW310lbs>CW187lbs>Current GW160lbs, will assess when I reach it though>Stack10mg tirzepatide (pharma Mounjaro)5mg gray retaWAGMI
>>77505038Good shit, godly stack too.
>>77504931Tirz is king
>>77505026But anon, you are the tranny.
Reminder that DNP and other mitochondrial uncouplers are the only way to burn pure fat without muscle loss
Should I eat less? Should I choose not to stuff my face? Ummm. No. I will choose to INJECT myself with drugs! I will spend money and go out of my way to see a doctor and get a prescription and literally inject my shit with a syringe. Its not as simple as eating less bro.
>>77505435cry harder
i lack willpower and injecting this shit feels like a miracle. i'm eating because i need to, not because i want to.
>>77505544>i lack willpowerI severely doubt that>injecting this shit feels like a miracleIt is. The moment you realize it was never about willpower and naturally lean people feel this way 24/7 is incredibly illuminating and frustrating at the same time. It especially hits hard if you're American, there is absolutely no way you can exist in America and not be fat unless you're genetically gifted. Full stop.
>>77505026TransFit Lives Matter>>77505435BLTC, step into the 21st century timmy
Stop engaging with the raiders from /fph/, gentlemen.
>>77504922Second week on ozempic 1.5g pill.Started bc borderline diabetic still after beating type2 a few years ago. Weight when I got rx was 292lbs. If I get under 250 it'll be a miracle.What am I in for boys
>>77505726Actually curious about the oral GLP-1s. Do you have any noticeable side effects?
>>77504966I went with the pen also.
6kg until I hit 25 bmi bros...wagmi
>>77505974Based
>>775059745kg to go for me and I'm 50kg down. Feels good.
glp1 chads can't stop winning
>>77504922>>77504924>VRX-0075>>Quintuple (five) agonist>NOT A GLP-1 AGONIST>Cagrilintide>>Amylin receptorthis is kind of funny because VRX-0075 is literally just reta + cagri
>keep waking up at 3am from retaWhy the fucks this even happening and can it be prevented? Can sometimes get back to sleep, sometimes not.
>>77506173could be the glucagon agonism.. switch to tirz if it's too bad? idk i get poorer sleep on any calorie deficit with or without glp-1. is it worse than your baseline on a deficit without glp-1?
>>77506177could be, i was imagining blood sugar gets super low then body is like "hey wake up here's cortisol", i was hoping there's some super slow digesting meal that could last over 8 hours, but anything heavy protein will fuck up your sleep anyway>is it worse than your baseline on a deficit without glp-1?oh yes
>>77506172Kek yep my thoughts exactly.And knowing how hard Cagri hits you at 0.5mg, if they get people to start at 2mg for VRX, I anticipate a LOT of tired as fuck people.
>>77505737They said it would be like the injection more or less. Recommended pill first thing upon waking. No fluids or food or other pills for 30 minutes then do what you do.Watch for constipation. Drink lots of water, exercise, eat proteins and fiber.So far I noticed a seemingly small amount of slow gut. But first couple days had some loose stool immediately after eating. But nothing after 3rd day or so.
>>77506173Reta is know to trigger an acute flight or fight response in some people. It has to do with the glucagon receptor being activated which the body is known to do In stressful situations. If you feel a little anxiety in the pit of your stomach, that’s what’s waking you.
>>77506279Yep exactly.Glucagon is very intense for what it does, including burning brown fat quickly.
thoughts on my thread? i didn't realize this had a general>>77506258idk why you wouldnt just fast as a fat fuck?
>>77506315It's the food noise and hunger suppression which is what appeals to everyone using it. If fasting works for you or anyone, 100% do it before considering the GLP world.
>>77506279>>77506307Reta fucks me up so I had to switch back to tirz.
>>77505726>Second week on ozempic 1.5g pill.So how much money is being on ozempic pill? I'm in slav shithole so we get everything with years of delay.
>>77506474German prices for the 25mg version is 280€ a month.
>>77506475>German prices for the 25mg version is 280€ a month.Not too bad really, thanks.
>>77506138Damn right.
Stacked up for a while lads
>>77506479Goddamn, still expensive.
>>77506173Same
wait, you fat niggas need to keep on buying this drug for the rest of your LIFE? And there's a chance you become resistant to it, it stops working, and you lose all the weight back anyway? That's depressing. Why don't you develop will power and lose weight the normal way?
>>77506173get a continuos blood glucose monitor. my guess is your blood sugar drops too low at night which spikes cortisol to release glucose from your liver waking you up so you dont die from low blood sugar
>>77504931A fellow Patrician, I see.Yes, tirz is king
>>77505026Rent free
You never build resistance to DNP
>>77507543I already sweat enough as is, I think my body produces its own DNP
>>77506618Nice, but why not RT20? Lower doses good for you at the moment?
>>77507601There's almost no price break for Reta going from 10 to 20. On the other hand, Tirz 30 costs almost the same as Tirz 20
>>77506173Half of the week I could get the exact right mix of fiber and protein in a pre-sleep snack and sleep.through the night. I stopped all glp1 for a couple of weeks for surgery and realized the insomnia was ruining my life. Back on triz and a bump of cagri. I'll just do 35 minutes of cardio to match the reta burn
>>77506618Based
>>77507747This is true. TR30 was only $30 more.
>>77507422Tirz is ROYALTY
>>77504931>>77505087>>77508469why? isn't Retatrutide better?
>>77508488It is for certain things. It has GLP-1 and GIP and it actively burns brown fat thanks to Glucagon, which Tirz doesn't have. Tirz, however, has much stronger appetite suppression and food noise reduction, as well as reduction of inflammation (something one of the /fph/ raiding trannies refused to acknowledge last thread).
>>77505026Being addiction prone is a genetical feature and has absolutely nothing to do with the willpower.I'm glad you don't experience this problem, but try to work on your anger management, it's bad for your health
>>77505422I fucking hate how it became practically impossible to buy DNP anywhere. It's extremely effective and pretty safe if you know what you're doing
>>77504922Maybe stay active, eat right and lift heavy things.
>>77505026Based take>>77506618"For research use only" means "You can't sue us if you're actually dumb enough to put this into your body"Why are you guys even on a fitness board? This thread is about laziness, chemicals and vanity.
i want to try glp-1 but i heard you can go blind if you're unlucky so i'm scared
>>77506138>jew juice good>source: drs. jew & jew
>>77508633Yacon syrup is more effective and it is safe.
77508600Shut up fags, see >>77504927
>>77508633I've seen this post over the last few generals, it doesn't happen.
>>77508644>source:
>>77508644sounds interesting. 0.14g/kg body weight/day. says its non digestible and acts like fibre so im guessing it gives you the squirts, it mentions increased bowl movements>>77508669https://www.clinicalnutritionjournal.com/article/S0261-5614(09)00030-2/abstract
>>77508113$10 more from my guy lol
>>77508692Oligosaccharides make it lower in the digestive system and release natural GLP-1. Works the same way as GLP-1 agonists but better because it's the real thing.
>>77508542even the few people I knew who sold stopped. Very unfortunate. There's a lot of BAM15 going around now, but it's not as effective imo. >>77508600rent free lmfao. coping natties really wish they were low inhib>>77508633it was ppl who were already prone to getting blindness from their severe diabetes >>77507747for me 10mg is 84 a kit and 20mg is 144 man idk what you're talking about there's a pretty significant price difference
>>77509300BAM15 is better than DNP honestly for general benefits but for weight loss DNP mogs obviously
On 1mg reta 1st week, feel it quite a bit, not obese or overweight just want to get absolutely shredded, at what point should I increase the dosage? 1.5 on third week up to 2mg on 5th? Or if the 1mg appetite suppression lowers going forward would I be better off keeping the reta the same and stacking 0.25mg cagri?
>>77509314Go to 2mg and have Cagri on stand by. 2mg is the starter dose for the Eli Lilly trials for Reta.
My fifth week on Tirz 2,5 mg and I'm suddenly experiencing nausea and rotten burps. I haven't eaten anything in two days other than drinking protein shakes in hopes the rotten burps will go away since in my experience they get worse once I eat something.Any tips?
>>77509522eat normal food you retard not just protein drinks
where are you guys getting this stuff from? Shit is expensive asf here in germany and you gotta have a prescription from your gay backward doctors here, which is basically impossible in this fucking country if you're not basically dying from diabetes and obesity.
>>77509670The link to STG in the OP will get you sorted. It'll take a short while to get sorted but it's worth it for saving money.Try exhausting all legal prescription and discount options first before resorting to the gray market.
How do I get GLP-1 in Germany? Went to the doctor as a private patient (fully aware have to pay myself 100%), he refused because I am "just" BMI 27 and not 30, so have to gain 12kg more to get Wegovy. Taking blood pressure medication for 10 years and having only 6 hours of sleep because medication wears off at night does not matter anything to him, only BMI.
>>77509819Someone in here mentioned a "telehealth dial in" doctor to try. Have a research and see what you can find.
God damn, you fat fucks are completely hopeless. You go from being an obese whale to a diseased skeleton swallowing stacks of pills and sticking needles in your ass. Just change your lifestyle.
77509983We don't care. Go back to /fph/ and stop raiding >>77504927
>>77509522papaya enzymes with meals. I use pilgrims pride but I think any brand will do>>77509819Try another doctor, telehealth that specializes in glp1 or life extension. 27 bmi plus comorbity you should qualify. Or go to stg for grey, there are vendors with german warehouses so no customs drama. Obviously do tirzepatide if you go grey. Wouldn't do reta if you have high blood pressure
>>77510051Teledoctors are dodgy in a great way.
>>77504922Did you take ( insert GLP-1) between 2024 and 2027 well you may be entitled to money for all your stomach cancer. No wait it was voluntary. Maybe should have developed will power fat fuck.
77510321We don't care. Go back to /fph/ and stop raiding >>77504927
>>77510321GLP-1 drugs have been on the market for decades you aspie if they caused cancer we'd know by now. They actually have evidence to prove they reduce the risk of certain cancers
>>77508541Or you could stop being a faggot and develop some willpower.Or better yet, you can do the world a favour and kill yourself.
>>77504922CHINA WON
>>77510789Ooh la la, they're so *tall*
>>77509314Based cagri
How are these chinks able to produce those peptides? Are they so easy to manufacture?
How fat were you / do you have to be to resort to GLP-1s? I'm currently 8kgs overweight
>>77508644>>77508692im dumb enough to give this a go. arrived today, ate 9g on an empty stomach, thats half the bodyweight amount they used but its non-digestible and i dont want straight diarrhea. taste like date syrup kind of, quite nice.
>>77511401I've seen one other anon who tried it and he said it works. Keep us updated.
>>77511401>>77511412Also here's the dosing guidelines.
>>77511377to add to this im currently 90kg @ 6ft I wanna get to 82kg that would put me in the "healthy" bmi range but I wanna be more like 75kg to start looking good I think.
>>77511414cheers, what are the symptoms? also any diarrhea?
>>77511412>>77511414That sounds like total bs and in the great age of Trumpian grifting it most likely is.
>>77511519How could releasing natural GLP-1 not work if GLP-1 agonists work? It makes sense that it works even better.
>>77511519Yeah it's total BS, if it was the miracle natural cure-all for weight loss and obesity it would be way more well-known than it is. It's only peddled by grifters and the types of people that will also sell you crystals and whatnot. It's just a natural prebiotic sweetener. It certainly can be good for your health but it's not comparable to GLP-1s. A study back in 2009 (which this edited graph >>77508644 is likely sourcing from):https://www.clinicalnutritionjournal.com/article/S0261-5614(09)00030-2/abstractfound that it helped with weight loss but if you actually read the study the obese pre-menopausal women who took it over the course of 120 days were also put on a low-calorie, low-fat diet and told to walk for 45 minutes each day. That's not hard evidence of it helping with weight loss, that's just a study saying that improving your diet and exercising will help you lose weight. >>77511608There is no evidence that yacon syrup consumption in humans causes natural GLP-1 release. In fact there is a study that says it has no effect on GLP-1 release or even subjective appetite sensation.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33233227/
>>77511608endogenous glp-1 gets cleaved in a couple of minutes, the agonists don't react to the same enzymes so they're metabolically active for longer. it's why IV glp1 was never a thing even though it's been known about for years
>>77511699Yes precisely.
