Previous >>77485244 What are you taking? How much are you injecting? What weight did you start at and how much have you lost? Questions & queries? >What is GLP-1? GLP-1 agonists are medications that help lower blood sugar levels and promote weight loss. They are available with a valid prescription (commonly known as Ozempic, Wegovy, Mounjaro/Zepbound, etc) or via the gray market in the form of peptides. >How do I get on GLP-1? For the legal brand-name products, you need to have a valid prescription, but it can be very expensive. If you want them as peptides, they are available via the gray market, which is a much riskier area for a siginifcantly better quantity and price. >How do I get into the gray market? Stairwaytogray's main website at www.stairwaytogray.com is the one and only place to start. There are many great guides covering all areas for new players to the scene. Several points to note: >Mods will ban you for positng direct links to gray market sources, so don't risk it >There is absolutely no such thing as GLP-3. It is a common ignorant and uninformed term spread by social media influencers. This includes GLP-2 (which is unrelated to weight loss and is for Crohn's Disease), GLP-4 and GLP-5. They're all false and uneducated terms >NEVER follow the advice of any social media influencer on any mainstream platform under any circumstances. This especially includes Instagram, TikTok, Facebook and YouTube. The consequences are disastrous and even fatal >The gray market is volatile and legally risky. Do your research, learn basic cryptocurrency and focus on your personal security and privacy, and never spend more than you are willing to lose As always, stay safe and be smart.
Know the difference between the agonists. This image and a simple Google search will prevent you from looking stupid in front of everyone. MAINSTREAM GLP-1 BRANDS Semaglutide >Ozempic, Wegovy, Rybelsus Tirzepatide >Zepbound, Mounjaro LESSER KNOWN GLP-1 BRANDS Liraglutide >Victoza, Saxenda Dulaglutide >Trulicity Exenatide >Byetta, Bydureon BCise Lixisenatide >Adlyxin Orforglipron >Foundayo Albiglutide >Tanzeum (cancelled by the manufacturer) UPCOMING GLP-1 AGONISTS Retatrutide >Still in the experimental/testing phase, highly proven results Mazdutide >Dual agonist Survodutide >Dual agonist Ecnoglutide >Single agonist "biased GLP-1"VRX-0075>Quintuple (five) agonistNOT A GLP-1 AGONIST Cagrilintide >Amylin receptor Eloralintide >Amylin receptor Petrelintide >Amylin receptor
And finally:>Ignore all non-GLP-1 substances...within reason (Cagrilintide, for example, is fine) >Filtering is optional but recommended >No one cares if you don't like or need GLP-1 injections >Do not engage with the DNPtranny>Go to /fph/ or /fraud/ if you feel like a morally superior faggot
>>77504922TIRZ IS KING
>>77504922Should I use syringes or those auto-injectable pens?The syringes are giving me bruises but the pens, while having the 4mm 32g needle, are expensive.
thread full of a bunch of lazy fat fucks with no willpower who need a tranny drug just to help them put the fork down. no better than fatties who get a surgery to literally shrink their stomach in order to eat less
>>77504966Decided on the pens with the short needles, bit the bullet just now on Amazon
>SW310lbs>CW187lbs>Current GW160lbs, will assess when I reach it though>Stack10mg tirzepatide (pharma Mounjaro)5mg gray retaWAGMI
>>77505038Good shit, godly stack too.
>>77504931Tirz is king
>>77505026But anon, you are the tranny.
Reminder that DNP and other mitochondrial uncouplers are the only way to burn pure fat without muscle loss
Should I eat less? Should I choose not to stuff my face? Ummm. No. I will choose to INJECT myself with drugs! I will spend money and go out of my way to see a doctor and get a prescription and literally inject my shit with a syringe. Its not as simple as eating less bro.
>>77505435cry harder
i lack willpower and injecting this shit feels like a miracle. i'm eating because i need to, not because i want to.
>>77505544>i lack willpowerI severely doubt that>injecting this shit feels like a miracleIt is. The moment you realize it was never about willpower and naturally lean people feel this way 24/7 is incredibly illuminating and frustrating at the same time. It especially hits hard if you're American, there is absolutely no way you can exist in America and not be fat unless you're genetically gifted. Full stop.
>>77505026TransFit Lives Matter>>77505435BLTC, step into the 21st century timmy
Stop engaging with the raiders from /fph/, gentlemen.
>>77504922Second week on ozempic 1.5g pill.Started bc borderline diabetic still after beating type2 a few years ago. Weight when I got rx was 292lbs. If I get under 250 it'll be a miracle.What am I in for boys
>>77505726Actually curious about the oral GLP-1s. Do you have any noticeable side effects?
>>77504966I went with the pen also.
6kg until I hit 25 bmi bros...wagmi
>>77505974Based
>>775059745kg to go for me and I'm 50kg down. Feels good.
glp1 chads can't stop winning
>>77504922>>77504924>VRX-0075>>Quintuple (five) agonist>NOT A GLP-1 AGONIST>Cagrilintide>>Amylin receptorthis is kind of funny because VRX-0075 is literally just reta + cagri
>keep waking up at 3am from retaWhy the fucks this even happening and can it be prevented? Can sometimes get back to sleep, sometimes not.
>>77506173could be the glucagon agonism.. switch to tirz if it's too bad? idk i get poorer sleep on any calorie deficit with or without glp-1. is it worse than your baseline on a deficit without glp-1?
>>77506177could be, i was imagining blood sugar gets super low then body is like "hey wake up here's cortisol", i was hoping there's some super slow digesting meal that could last over 8 hours, but anything heavy protein will fuck up your sleep anyway>is it worse than your baseline on a deficit without glp-1?oh yes
>>77506172Kek yep my thoughts exactly.And knowing how hard Cagri hits you at 0.5mg, if they get people to start at 2mg for VRX, I anticipate a LOT of tired as fuck people.
>>77505737They said it would be like the injection more or less. Recommended pill first thing upon waking. No fluids or food or other pills for 30 minutes then do what you do.Watch for constipation. Drink lots of water, exercise, eat proteins and fiber.So far I noticed a seemingly small amount of slow gut. But first couple days had some loose stool immediately after eating. But nothing after 3rd day or so.
>>77506173Reta is know to trigger an acute flight or fight response in some people. It has to do with the glucagon receptor being activated which the body is known to do In stressful situations. If you feel a little anxiety in the pit of your stomach, that’s what’s waking you.
>>77506279Yep exactly.Glucagon is very intense for what it does, including burning brown fat quickly.
thoughts on my thread? i didn't realize this had a general>>77506258idk why you wouldnt just fast as a fat fuck?
>>77506315It's the food noise and hunger suppression which is what appeals to everyone using it. If fasting works for you or anyone, 100% do it before considering the GLP world.
>>77506279>>77506307Reta fucks me up so I had to switch back to tirz.
>>77505726>Second week on ozempic 1.5g pill.So how much money is being on ozempic pill? I'm in slav shithole so we get everything with years of delay.
>>77506474German prices for the 25mg version is 280€ a month.
>>77506475>German prices for the 25mg version is 280€ a month.Not too bad really, thanks.
>>77506138Damn right.
Stacked up for a while lads
>>77506479Goddamn, still expensive.
>>77506173Same
wait, you fat niggas need to keep on buying this drug for the rest of your LIFE? And there's a chance you become resistant to it, it stops working, and you lose all the weight back anyway? That's depressing. Why don't you develop will power and lose weight the normal way?
>>77506173get a continuos blood glucose monitor. my guess is your blood sugar drops too low at night which spikes cortisol to release glucose from your liver waking you up so you dont die from low blood sugar
>>77504931A fellow Patrician, I see.Yes, tirz is king
>>77505026Rent free
You never build resistance to DNP
>>77507543I already sweat enough as is, I think my body produces its own DNP
>>77506618Nice, but why not RT20? Lower doses good for you at the moment?
>>77507601There's almost no price break for Reta going from 10 to 20. On the other hand, Tirz 30 costs almost the same as Tirz 20
>>77506173Half of the week I could get the exact right mix of fiber and protein in a pre-sleep snack and sleep.through the night. I stopped all glp1 for a couple of weeks for surgery and realized the insomnia was ruining my life. Back on triz and a bump of cagri. I'll just do 35 minutes of cardio to match the reta burn
>>77506618Based
>>77507747This is true. TR30 was only $30 more.
>>77507422Tirz is ROYALTY
>>77504931>>77505087>>77508469why? isn't Retatrutide better?
>>77508488It is for certain things. It has GLP-1 and GIP and it actively burns brown fat thanks to Glucagon, which Tirz doesn't have. Tirz, however, has much stronger appetite suppression and food noise reduction, as well as reduction of inflammation (something one of the /fph/ raiding trannies refused to acknowledge last thread).
>>77505026Being addiction prone is a genetical feature and has absolutely nothing to do with the willpower.I'm glad you don't experience this problem, but try to work on your anger management, it's bad for your health
>>77505422I fucking hate how it became practically impossible to buy DNP anywhere. It's extremely effective and pretty safe if you know what you're doing
>>77504922Maybe stay active, eat right and lift heavy things.
>>77505026Based take>>77506618"For research use only" means "You can't sue us if you're actually dumb enough to put this into your body"Why are you guys even on a fitness board? This thread is about laziness, chemicals and vanity.
i want to try glp-1 but i heard you can go blind if you're unlucky so i'm scared
>>77506138>jew juice good>source: drs. jew & jew
>>77508633Yacon syrup is more effective and it is safe.
77508600Shut up fags, see >>77504927
>>77508633I've seen this post over the last few generals, it doesn't happen.
>>77508644>source:
>>77508644sounds interesting. 0.14g/kg body weight/day. says its non digestible and acts like fibre so im guessing it gives you the squirts, it mentions increased bowl movements>>77508669https://www.clinicalnutritionjournal.com/article/S0261-5614(09)00030-2/abstract
>>77508113$10 more from my guy lol
>>77508692Oligosaccharides make it lower in the digestive system and release natural GLP-1. Works the same way as GLP-1 agonists but better because it's the real thing.
>>77508542even the few people I knew who sold stopped. Very unfortunate. There's a lot of BAM15 going around now, but it's not as effective imo. >>77508600rent free lmfao. coping natties really wish they were low inhib>>77508633it was ppl who were already prone to getting blindness from their severe diabetes >>77507747for me 10mg is 84 a kit and 20mg is 144 man idk what you're talking about there's a pretty significant price difference
>>77509300BAM15 is better than DNP honestly for general benefits but for weight loss DNP mogs obviously
On 1mg reta 1st week, feel it quite a bit, not obese or overweight just want to get absolutely shredded, at what point should I increase the dosage? 1.5 on third week up to 2mg on 5th? Or if the 1mg appetite suppression lowers going forward would I be better off keeping the reta the same and stacking 0.25mg cagri?
>>77509314Go to 2mg and have Cagri on stand by. 2mg is the starter dose for the Eli Lilly trials for Reta.
My fifth week on Tirz 2,5 mg and I'm suddenly experiencing nausea and rotten burps. I haven't eaten anything in two days other than drinking protein shakes in hopes the rotten burps will go away since in my experience they get worse once I eat something.Any tips?
>>77509522eat normal food you retard not just protein drinks
where are you guys getting this stuff from? Shit is expensive asf here in germany and you gotta have a prescription from your gay backward doctors here, which is basically impossible in this fucking country if you're not basically dying from diabetes and obesity.
>>77509670The link to STG in the OP will get you sorted. It'll take a short while to get sorted but it's worth it for saving money.Try exhausting all legal prescription and discount options first before resorting to the gray market.
How do I get GLP-1 in Germany? Went to the doctor as a private patient (fully aware have to pay myself 100%), he refused because I am "just" BMI 27 and not 30, so have to gain 12kg more to get Wegovy. Taking blood pressure medication for 10 years and having only 6 hours of sleep because medication wears off at night does not matter anything to him, only BMI.
>>77509819Someone in here mentioned a "telehealth dial in" doctor to try. Have a research and see what you can find.
God damn, you fat fucks are completely hopeless. You go from being an obese whale to a diseased skeleton swallowing stacks of pills and sticking needles in your ass. Just change your lifestyle.
77509983We don't care. Go back to /fph/ and stop raiding >>77504927
>>77509522papaya enzymes with meals. I use pilgrims pride but I think any brand will do>>77509819Try another doctor, telehealth that specializes in glp1 or life extension. 27 bmi plus comorbity you should qualify. Or go to stg for grey, there are vendors with german warehouses so no customs drama. Obviously do tirzepatide if you go grey. Wouldn't do reta if you have high blood pressure
>>77510051Teledoctors are dodgy in a great way.
>>77504922Did you take ( insert GLP-1) between 2024 and 2027 well you may be entitled to money for all your stomach cancer. No wait it was voluntary. Maybe should have developed will power fat fuck.
77510321We don't care. Go back to /fph/ and stop raiding >>77504927
>>77510321GLP-1 drugs have been on the market for decades you aspie if they caused cancer we'd know by now. They actually have evidence to prove they reduce the risk of certain cancers
>>77508541Or you could stop being a faggot and develop some willpower.Or better yet, you can do the world a favour and kill yourself.
>>77504922CHINA WON
>>77510789Ooh la la, they're so *tall*
>>77509314Based cagri
How are these chinks able to produce those peptides? Are they so easy to manufacture?
How fat were you / do you have to be to resort to GLP-1s? I'm currently 8kgs overweight
>>77508644>>77508692im dumb enough to give this a go. arrived today, ate 9g on an empty stomach, thats half the bodyweight amount they used but its non-digestible and i dont want straight diarrhea. taste like date syrup kind of, quite nice.
>>77511401I've seen one other anon who tried it and he said it works. Keep us updated.
>>77511401>>77511412Also here's the dosing guidelines.
>>77511377to add to this im currently 90kg @ 6ft I wanna get to 82kg that would put me in the "healthy" bmi range but I wanna be more like 75kg to start looking good I think.
>>77511414cheers, what are the symptoms? also any diarrhea?
>>77511412>>77511414That sounds like total bs and in the great age of Trumpian grifting it most likely is.
>>77511519How could releasing natural GLP-1 not work if GLP-1 agonists work? It makes sense that it works even better.
>>77511519Yeah it's total BS, if it was the miracle natural cure-all for weight loss and obesity it would be way more well-known than it is. It's only peddled by grifters and the types of people that will also sell you crystals and whatnot. It's just a natural prebiotic sweetener. It certainly can be good for your health but it's not comparable to GLP-1s. A study back in 2009 (which this edited graph >>77508644 is likely sourcing from):https://www.clinicalnutritionjournal.com/article/S0261-5614(09)00030-2/abstractfound that it helped with weight loss but if you actually read the study the obese pre-menopausal women who took it over the course of 120 days were also put on a low-calorie, low-fat diet and told to walk for 45 minutes each day. That's not hard evidence of it helping with weight loss, that's just a study saying that improving your diet and exercising will help you lose weight. >>77511608There is no evidence that yacon syrup consumption in humans causes natural GLP-1 release. In fact there is a study that says it has no effect on GLP-1 release or even subjective appetite sensation.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33233227/
>>77511608endogenous glp-1 gets cleaved in a couple of minutes, the agonists don't react to the same enzymes so they're metabolically active for longer. it's why IV glp1 was never a thing even though it's been known about for years
>>77511699Yes precisely.
>>77511421I'm at 91kg at 5'11", I think I'll be at 10% bf at 82.5 so I need to lose 8.5kg = ~18lbs. Eerily similar stats to you, but I don't know if you've been lifting or not. I've been on ~2.0mg of Tirz for 10 days and it is retardedly easy to keep my 500 kcal deficit. Keep in mind the official starting dose is 2.5mg. If 2 stops working for me I'll probably try 3 or 3.5 instead of jumping to 5. I've understandably lost some strength in the weightmroom but I pretty much never feel hungry, literally maybe like 20 minutes of hunger that goes away on its own. I'll push my deficit more and more and see how it goes, compared to my previous cuts this is laughable. >tirz is kingYes it is.
>>77509522Throat soothe liquid(Gaviscon here)
>>77509314Cagri is great. It's surprisingly overpowered as fuck.
>>77512118Tirz is and will forever be king. I like the look of the new versions coming out, but you just can't beat what's already godly.
>>77514161Tirz has the least amount of side effects too. Sema and reta just fuck you up.
>>77514163Yeah it's weird, Reta is meant to have no severe side effects at all. I have none.Human bodies are weird man.
Anyone know what happened. Body went numb while exercising and than next thing I know my leg feels sore. Now I ever been able to workout in a week, my leg is sore and my calf and thigh hurts and knee making weird noises when I bend. I need this healed fast. All my progress will be for nothing
>>77514221go see a doctor
>>77514221Reta/Tirz/Sema/any other peptide?
>>77514228Tirz
>>77514239Low blood sugar then. Increase carb intake.
>>77511421I am 6”4, I was at 89kg (down from 125 all time high), went up to 100kg with creatine, lifting & breakup - that’s when I went on tirz 2.5. Now dose two of 5mg, down to 93kg. I aim to go to 82 and see. Currently super happy.
>>77514879nearly same story as me brah I was 125k at one point, I'm 6'3. Down to 90kg then up to 100kg, now I'm 87kg. also aiming for 82. Good luck mane
>>775148796'1, started at 130kg last year, now 84kg (4kg to go). Fuck being fat again.I'm weaning off Reta at the moment (was 5mg), I've been titrating down every jab, which is now two weeks at a time. 1mg for the next two weeks and then I'm off it. The hunger pangs came back slightly, but the real test will be when I stop after my final jab shortly.
I lost around 40Ibs on reta the first 3 months. 4 months later, I havent lost anything, in fact I gained some. I titrated all the way up to 5mg. I just quit vaping and vaping was the main reason why I wasnt exercising the last 4 months but shouldnt I have still been losing something? the appetite suppression does not even exist anymore
I always see people touting that Tirz appetite suppression is stronger than Reta, has this held up for anyone? I've been taking high dose Reta (10-12mg) and recently added Cagri (0.5mg) cause appetite suppression (or hunger increasing due to weight loss) was becoming noticeable.
>>77515288That was the case for me. Reta was going well, actively burning my brown fat, all the usual GLP-1/Glucagon/GIP stuff, but even at 5mg, the food noise and appetite suppression wasn't working too well. I started pinning Tirz at 2.5mg and it was insanely effective. I'm no longer on Tirz though.If Tirz is king, then a Reta + Tirz stack is godlike, at least for me.>CagriIf my weaning off goes bad, I do want to get on Cagri when I hit my goal weight (me >>77514960) so that I have small controlled doses instead of spamming excess liquid into my injection sites all the time.
>>77515301dosing protocol for tirz?
>>77515336Mine, or in general?If mine, I injected Tirz 2.5mg every Thursday morning, as Reta was 5mg every Sunday night.
>>77514221sorry wot mate.. that may not even be related to glp. go google it or see a doctor
>>77504922>mfw started 12.5mg tirz this weekwe /endgame/ now
>>77515381Curious, with 12.5mg Tirz and the amount of BAC water, do you need to rotate sites for the single injection or nah?
>>77515391i didnt and was fine
>>77511149Solid phase peptide synthesis. It's not hard to do well if you have access to some lab equipment and a handful of special reagents.
What are you guys planning to do once you reach your maintenance goal? Usually it's recommended to stay on the same dose that got you there, most regain weight if they titrate down and completely stopping is even worse. I plan to stay on 5mg tirz/mounjaro for as long as I can now that I've reached my goal weight.
>>77515955I'm currently doing this >>77514960 to see how it goes after 3 months of no Reta.
>>77515958Why not try a low dose of tirz for maintenance? Reta is better for weight loss but for general food noise and fullness tirz is better
>>77515964 I was initially doing a split dose stack here >>77515301 but you never hear of anyone weaning off successfully. I need to see how I'll react and how my body responds after 3 months of no injections.
>>77515967The thing I'm personally scared of is when people get off the medicine, regain a lot of weight and when they get back on it it's not as effective for them as it was before they stopped, this surely isn't the case for everyone I hope but I've heard lots of bad stories about this. If I can maintain my weight with 5mg tirz for life I'll probably be happy, I wouldn't say I'm saving money with this but it's not as expensive because I am spending less on food and binging gets very expensive too, which I've stopped now
>>77515391Please keep us updated.
Anyone here jump off a GLP onto a bulk ? Experiences would be appreciated
>>77516071Why would anyone do that?
>>77504922under 15% bf as of today. goal is around 12%.stats:started may, 190 lbs and 25% bfnow (september) 165 lbs and 14.7% bflost 2.5% bf per month~90% of weight lost was pure fatprotocol:started tirzepatide at 2.5mg/week, titrated up 2.5mg every 4 weeks (this week = 1st week at 12.5mg)eating high protein and lifting 3x/weekthis was my 5th time losing weight, 1st time using a glp-1 to assist. overall it was much easier though not effortless. emotional swings and food noise were severely reduced which was a godsend especially because i had a stressful life event in the middle (in the past these are what cause me to go haywire). overall very happy
>>77516172i should add i aimed for a 1000 calorie daily deficit, but never hit it. basically ended up between a 900-500 deficit on average. and i had binge moments, but my binges were to maintenance rather than 2000 calorie surplusses. i still feel hunger all the time and fatigue at times but it's much more manageable and doesnt impact other areas of my life that much
>>77516172nice how tall
>>77516661king of manlets
>>77516112because I want to lean, not visit skellytown
>>77516071Not yet
>>77516071I plan to once I hit single digit bodyfat. Give my receptors a break, you know.
>>77515288It's true for me, but I'm a low responder to GLPs in general. I can eat 4000 kcal easily through 10mg+ tirz or 8mg+ reta.
>>77515269just eat less stupid nigger it won't do the work for you
>>7750492 dont combine reta and suboxone my poop didn't work for over a week
Hey guys, very new to this. I started at 115kg and have cut down to 106 by alternating between short PSMF days and normal eating days. I'm finding it very difficult + want to run my PSMF days for longer to accelerate weight loss. Am at a state where I would like to experiment with peptides to help specifically Reta.Any beginners guides on how to do this without fucking my shit up? I'm more worried about sourcing something that's contaminated or spiked with something like I keep seeing on the news. I've found a couple of sites that sell it but not sure if I should trust them.Any advice? I've never bought an illegal drug of any kind let alone someone I inject. Based in Australia if it helps.Also fuck this Captcha. First time using this site in years and this shit is ass.
>>77517707The STG wiki or Telegram in the OP has the very good guide, albeit bordering on paranoia. I'm not allowed to name a vendor, but due to customs seizing my parcels ages ago, I use a vendor who has a Sydney warehouse. The prices per kit of 10 are marked up by at least 15% but there's ZERO interception risk.Tl;dr what you'll need and how to do shit:>Buy syringes, alcohol wipes and a sharps container from Amazon>Buy one Hospira BAC water (30mL) or a pack of 3 10mL from PremiumSupps>Learn crypto - send your bought crypto to a non-exchange custodial wallet first and then pay a vendor via that wallet>Spend ages researching which peptide you want. Look for user COAs via Janoshik and make sure endotoxin levels are normal and the peptide is what it says it is>Recommended Reta size is RT10 to startNEVER, EVER buy from reseller websites (individual vials). They forge COAs, their shit is untested, and they charge MORE for a single vial than a kit of 10!
>>77517707Buy from a vendor who has been around for longer. Tirz is the best in terms of low side effects. Start with 2.5mg a week for 2-3 weeks then increase to 5mg. Increase by 2.5mg every 3 weeks or so until you have reached a dose that works for you.
I have a question for those in the know. Is this ozempic shit as easy as doing a singular weekly injection and eating 60% of my tdee (1500 cals for me)? I wanna lose the weight as fast as possible like all the other retards on this stuff but I also don’t wanna end up looking like a gaunt crackhead whilst doing so
>>77517707You didn't even read the first post, so grey may not be for you. You will probably hurt yourself.Either buy from an stg vendor with YEARS of good test results or suck it up and buy pharma. DO NOT BUY FROM UNVETTED VENDORS>glp1forum(DOT)Kom/threads/doctors-fear-possible-contaminated-counterfeit-peptide-batch-after-seventh-case-of-acute-liver-damage-au.23564/Reta is easier for the labs to fuck up just do tirz. Especially in oz where quality bac water is hard to come by. Improperly synthesized reta plus bac water with the wrong pH is no bueno. >>77517927Yes it's that easy. Tho tirz is better. People look like crackheads because they eat 700 calories of carbs and one slim fast 20 gram protein shake. If you eat 1500 calories and adequate protein you'll be fine. The target population for pharma is 50 year old diabetic obese women that maybe powerwalk 2x a week, just don't be that
>>77517995Thank u anon. Second question: how do I reconstitute my stuff? I bought three dry vials from a now defunct website a few months ago. it came with instructions but I lost them. Chatgpt says there’s no way to guess and that I should be extremely careful
>>77517995Can confirm, reta fucks me up while tirz doesn't. Fuck reta is gay
>>77518025Insulin syringe. Put some air into the syringe, put it into the bac water then withdraw 100 units from the bac water and slowly let it drip into the sema vial. Then another 100 units of bac water and you're good to go.
>>77517927You can do that, yes. I highly recommend splitting your dose into two and taking them at a 3ish day interval to account for half life. I am able to keep my dosing low because i split the dose into two (have been on tirz since feb and am just now at 2 mg a week)
>>77518025cellgenicDOTkom/peptide-calculator/Use alcohol wipes on everything, including your fat stomach at least 2 inches from belly button
First time doing any glp. Got reta 20mgx10. Is 1 ml bac enough for each vial or should i bump it to 2 ml? Has any frog used 1 ml?
>>77518269Always do 1ml per 10mg.10mg = 1ml20mg = 2ml30mg = 3ml
Any anorexics here? I'm 5'7" and have spent the past two years bouncing from 105 - 120 lbs. Hoping to get to 100 by the end of 2026. I'm on my 3rd week on 2.5mg of tirz and it's been nice. Eating between 500-900 calories a day, no side effects at all. I'll see when week 5 rolls around whether I'll up my dosage to 3.5 mg or just stay at 2.5 mg.
>>77518469You're a retard and you're slowly killing yourself, hope you have fun at least
>>77518469>anorexic>needs tirzeppyNot a real anorexic, just stay fat you nigger
>>77518469Sort of. I started out completely restrictive and became heavily bulimic with restrictive cycles. Don't cycle up too quickly. Keep it low for as long as possible. I've gone up in 0.25 mg increments every other month or so, not 1.0 mg increments
>>77518874Thanks, sounds good. How long have you been on it for, and have you had any new side effects (if any at all) pop up as you've titrated up?
>>77518469get off our board faggot
>>77518208It's a ratio of a:b I refuse to believe you people need a calculator for thatAlso there's no evidence wiping your skin with an alcohol wipe does anything unless you're visibly dirty >>7751826910mg/ml makes dose math harder to fuck up but really it doesn't matter it recons the same
>>77518938Since February. No side effects currently but i split my dose which i heard helps. I take half the dose then 4 days later take the second half. I have had to take electrolytes in the past for fatigue and it helps also
>>77517472>>77517490alright lads godspeed when that day comes. WAGMI >>77517490
>>77519532i will try 1 ml and if it doesnt work i will add another half. The people that say it makes the math easier baffle me too desu but i didnt wanna be rude to someone who tried to help me. Btw should i start with 1mg or 2mg (reta).
>>77520630But it's really that simple. Trust me, I know it's daunting when you start out, but it truly is that simple.10mg = 1mL. Assuming you are starting with 2mg, which is the Eli Lily trials starting dose, you are injecting with a U100 (100 unit syringe). This means you inject 20 units. You then wait a week and repeat the process. After 4 weeks, you see how you are feeling, and if you don't have any bad side effects, you then titrate up to 4mg. If 2mg works well, stay there.As you progress, you'll understand more, and then you can start experimenting with dose levels and the like.
Newfag here. Why do people prefer Tirz over reta? I was skimming through Lyle McDonalds Glp-1 book + watching youtube videos on various peptides and reta seems to be the most effective?Someone earlier said that it's safer on the grey market but how is that and is the risk really so much higher for reta that you should choose tirz over it?
>>77521261Reta activates your glucagon 24/7 which doesn't seem super healthy, and it's still in phase 3 trials so we don't have full safety/efficacy guarantees like tirz. It can also cause skin and sleeping issues. Tirz is the best combination of safe, effective, and low side effect.
>>77521296Yep, my brown fat melted over the last year and I can attest to the not so great sleep. It worked well aside from that, but even me as a Reta shill always tell people to go with Tirz first.
>>77521261Read the article here: >>77517995This is all speculation, but after making the Reta peptide chain, they have to perform a series of modifications to it, and it seems like the chinks mess it up once in a while and it can fuck up your liver. Very small chance but why bother - tirz works well with minimal side-effects.
>>77521261It's still experimental but fine to use. We recommend Tirz first as it's established, but there's anons in here who are leading a fearmonger campaign against Reta for some reason, despite many people being on it.>t. 81lb down on Reta
>>77521296what are the skin issues?
Newfag again, I have a follow up question.I know we're not allowed to discuss where we source here. Other anons have referred people to the GLP-1 forum but having browsed that they don't allow discussions of sources either.Where should I go to discuss sources with people? I don't want to be injecting lead into my belly y'know.I understand there's Janoshek but I was only able to find one public test linking to a site in my country but it requires me to sign up for a membership.Please forgive my retardation anons, I'm still learning.
>>77521261>Why do people prefer Tirz over reta?Side effects. My resting heart rate is 100+ on reta and I feel like shit. My blood pressure increased aswell and inflammation was brutal. All that isn't worth the marginally better cholesterol reduction and liver health which was already quite good on tirzepatide.
>>77521622There are "forum"s where you "think" about "steroids" where vendors who have been around a bit longer resell Chinese peptides with Janoshik certs. It's a bit more expensive than buying directly from a Chinese warehouse (anywhere from 2-10x more expensive depending on the vendor) but it's more convenient.
>>77521622>▶Sorry ignore this anons, it turns out I really am retarded.>>77521629Thank you G
>>77521622GLP1Forum is a paid advertising platform. There's some good content there but it's still a bit dodgy for vendor recommendations as they let any untested and unverified vendor pay to advertise. Avoid the vendor section and just read the discussion part.Like in the OP - Stairwaytogray in Telegram is your best place. They are utterly unforgiving and highly knowledge.
>>77521639*highly knowledgeable
>>77518469.....
>>77516771Kek
I think i'm going to bite the bullet.4 years ago I managed to lose 35kg just diligently counting cals and going to the gym, but gradually regained. Last year I tried again and lost 10kg, but lost momentum too and got back to fat fuck levels at 30+ BMI.That first time was a period I was fueled by novelty and hope. I felt really accomplished for the first time in life, but my resolve and willpower deteriorated a lot since them and nowadays I feel like shit. Maybe joining the GLP train will bring me back the hope that life is worth it.
>>77524639it will fren. worth a try if nothing else
>>77524639Many of us are on it with spectacular results. Give it a try and see how you go.
>>77524639I hope it goes without saying, but this shit works best if you pair it with a sensible 500-1000 kcal deficit, a moderately high protein diet, and at least 10K steps/day if you're not doing other exercise. Besides that, just start low and figure out how your body reacts to it - stick to the lowest effective dose, but be prepared to taper up as you acclimate to the effects.
>>77524731Yeah if I do end up taking it i'll try to follow the same regimen I did before, just with less hunger annoyance.>>77524642>>77524709Thanks frens, i'll see about it
>>77524709102lb down, feelsgood
thanks to whoever recommended callondoc for my zep refill. i was the retard who used Hims for my first perscription (beacuse they had a $35/mo rate for the first month) and was not interested in paying them $135/mo for the piece of paper going forward.first month on zep has been incredible. i'm sticking with the 2.5 dose as long as it keeps working.
>>77525394Good stuff. A good Teledoc is hard to find.
Okay, there seem to be more than a couple of IRL meatheads who are actually taking this shit.I have to ask - why? Why go down this path when you know you are rolling the dice with serious side effects and you know you are just wasting all components of your body mass indiscriminately? Once you've lost weight taking this shit you will STILL have to learn to diet and exercise, and if you don't then you WILL balloon back to your original weight.Lol. LMAO even.
>>77516172>food noisedon't forget to feed your cat
77525892We don't care, see >>77504927
>>77518025>5mg
>>77525892>Why go down this path when you know you are rolling the dice with serious side effectsi'm staying on the lowest dose to avoid that. it's a very small chance.>you will STILL have to learn to diet and exercise, what makes you think we aren't dieting and exercising? do you think we're just eating doritos and losing weight? >and if you don't then you WILL balloon back to your original weightno shit, most of us got on these retard drugs BECAUSE we have lost weight a dozen times and ballooned back every time and are fucking tired of our useless retard brains. i am fine taking a low dose medication for the rest of my life if it makes my quality of life better, and this shit unequivocally does.
>>77525892>Why go down this path when you know you are rolling the dice with serious side effectsTwo more weeks. Also wasn't the covid vaccine supposed to kill all of us 'goycattle' anyway? Whatever happened to that.>you know you are just wasting all components of your body mass indiscriminatelyHappens with regular diet aswell.>Once you've lost weight taking this shit you will STILL have to learn to diet and exercise, and if you don't then you WILL balloon back to your original weight.Stay on meds FOREVER. You don't need to exercise or watch your diet. Never again. It all becomes optional.You lost, tranny.
>>77521514There's none, he's making shit up.
Not asking anyone to share their sources but I'm getting frustrated with how difficult I'm finding it to find a reputable source for reta with an Australian warehouse.I've heard that there's one out there but no luck as of yet. Should I just bite the bullet and order from China anons? I would prefer to avoid getting caught by customs.
>>77526480There's a massive one in Sydney which several vendors share. Go onto STG's Telegram and ask/search in the International channel.I personally use it and have no issues.
has anyone had experience sleeping better on tirz? there is construction going on next door to my home and I've just been sleeping though it easily when typically I do not sleep well.
>>77526492Yep but not immediately, it took me a few weeks to notice a difference. It helps with sleep apnea too.
>>77526482I think I've found the one you're talking about. I assume testing is definitely required since it's not on the STG list but thanks for pointing me in the correct direction.
>>77526492Tirz makes me sleep really well. Reta does the opposite in giving me insomnia. Fuck reta.
>>77526505The problem with STG is that they perpetuate a massive level of paranoia to the point where any new vendor is shit on instantly for not complying with the "STG standard", despite being relatively new. You'll see it - people shit up new vendors trying to do good business because no one has yet done independent testing and there's not enough word of mouth.STG has made the peptide community so obnoxiously arrogant and paranoid that it's even hurting the approved vendors who haven't even made a mistake.And that's not to mention the chats themselves. The "helpful mentors" are desperate wannabe mods who self-police all the channels...for free (lmao). There is absolutely no fun allowed in there.
>>77526505All good mate.>>77526506As much as I am a massive Reta user, I have to agree with the sleep part. It's the only issue I have; I even get random nightmares.
>>77526507So you wouldn't recommend testing then?I'm curious about filters as well since they seem to insist it's necessary while many anons seems to think it's fine. I am inclined to be a bit paranoid about it considering all the stories of scams and harmful products (see projectile vomiting story).
>>77526521Testing is fine, they just take it to a level unlike anything I've ever seen.I personally filter, but that's because I use a V2 pen and I have to move my peps into the cartridge vials anyway so it's just an extra step in the inevitable process.
>>77515301Cagri is insanity. Be careful with it.
>>77504922I don't need to lose weight but I can never get to the rippedness I wanted because of the final approx. 2kg that I always stall at. Is it worth using GLP-1 stuff? Or is it just for gigafatties?
>>77527318It's mainly only for fatties and those with insane appetites. You'll want to go down the path of other non GLP-1 peptides instead.
>>77527323>non GLP-1 peptides insteadThanks for the tip. Do they actually work though?
>>77504922>>SW>265lbs>>CW>175lbs>>Current GW>Not sure, OG goal was 180, then moved it to 175 while i try to transition my remaining BF% to muscle doing some lean bulking>>Stack>5mg Mounjaro for a little over a year, never increased because though obese primarily on this for T2D and with my diet and exercise I improved all my numbers so much it was unnecessary to increase
>>77505026Based take
>>77506173Valerian tea
>>77527650Congrats anon, not sure of your height but you're almost 100 pounds lighter and I hope you have a new lease on life. Would you consider dialing down your dose to 2.5 to help increase appetite during your "lean bulk" or are on Rx and cannot tinker with that?
>>77527650Nice work man, keep it going.
Got these results w/ 3mg reta + 160mg test a week for a month and a half. Inbody scans at my doctor's office.
any real reason to hop on this shit if not struggling with large cal deficit natty? 7.5kg/16.5lbs down in 8 weeks
>>77528131>>77527323Basically see here.
>>77528097What am I looking at?
>>77528137makes sense. since this thread is about dropping bodyfat, do discussions regarding dropping bf% to single digit happen here? came back to /fit/ after 10+ years don't know where to look atm
>>77528141Nah body fat happens here my man >>77525680
>>77528131Not really. It curbs drinking urges too but if youre losing natty then you dont seem to need that
>take collosal shit after two weeks of being constipated>fires out like soft serve, coiling like a snake>congeals in to a solid orb that refuses to flush, so high I cant see the toilet water>must pulverize it in to a paste with the plunger to flush>I am this public restrooms 9/11>need to tighten belt 2 spots after to keep them up>look noticeably slimmer>get home and weigh myself>lost 3lbsOzempic is one helluva drug
How much do you guys pay for tirz
>>77528760Roughly 50€ per month for 7.5mg tirz a week.
>>77528760I paid $110 for 10 vials x 10mg Tirz, including shipping, from one of the US-based STG vendors. I've been on 2.5mg for almost 2 months now.
>>77528760Maybe $1-1.25 per mg. I use 2mg a week. It's way cheaper than the junk food binges i used to go on
>>77528760$350 total ($315 + Postage) for 30 vials (3 kits) of TR30 (Tirz 30mg).This will last me for up to three years easily. I hit my goal weight on Reta and now I'm maintaining on Tirz.TIRZ IS KING
Since March 1st I've been on reta. I lost 30+Ibs in about 3 months and got down to 194Ibs. (5'10.5)I picked up vaping by accident again at the tail end of that, and for 4 months after that I basically did no exercise and ate like crap because vaping makes me insanely lazy. I still kept injecting, but I wasn't losing anything and I gained about 10Ibs but I'm not sure if that's due to the creatine I started taking. I quit vaping 9 days ago finally. Never picking it up again. I have titrated up to 5mg reta and I'm trying to pin every 5 days now. I can't recall when it happened but it must have been month 2-4; the hunger suppression and stuff just completely stopped for me. So I'm getting tired of this and just want to get to my goal weight. I ordered Tirz and plan to stack it with the reta. Has anyone else done this and what's the protocol for first use, do i start at 2.5mg, pin same or different day?
>>77529214I do Reta and Tirz.>Reta 5mg every 7 days (Sunday afternoon)>Tirz 2.5mg* every 7 days (Thursday morning)This allows for an even 3.5 days between injections without going too insane with jabs. It's highly effective and is the best of both worlds - Reta's triple agonist stack with active brown fat burning which Tirz does NOT have, and Tirz's food noise and appetite suppression strength and anti-inflammation properties.>*Technically, I'm actually on 5mg Tirz, but to avoid excess BAC water (I have Tirz 30mg vials), instead of 3mL BAC water per vial, I halved it. 1.5mL BAC water allows me to pin 2.5mg of liquid, which is still 5mg Tirz; the Tirz 5mg content is the same, it's just the BAC concentration which is different.
I'm taking 15mg of Oforkdwonzempi
>>77527888I am 5'9"My A1c went from 11.6 to 5.6 after thinking I had a heart attack when my BP was 220/190 and ended up in the ER.About 15 years ago I went from 330 to 227 in a year on my own, and it was so hard, the food noise was insane, I had to have really disordered eating to just not eat everything in sight, and when I hurt my back doing squats everything went to shit and gained back most of the weight across the next 10 years.I hit a high of 300 again in about 2022 and said I was going to take a less hardcore approach and was being slowly successful, but in retrospect this was likely the uncontrolled diabetes as for whatever reason that makes you lose weight.All that said, i am not planning on going down to 2.5 since this was prescribed for my T2D, and 5mg is the therapeutic dose so I'm concerned my insurance wont approve 2.5mg now that I have been on it a year as I have to get a prior auth every 12 months for it. My doctor said that we could ask, but I am not interested in fucking with my insurance situation as I am getting 12 sticks for 50 dollars, which is a legit price.So far, I am only dealing with the issue of not feeling the need to eat, though it is also why I am trying to lean bulk. If it really becomes a problem my plan was to start staggering my doses out further, without impacting my A1C in a dramatic way. But I ate 2100 calories today and felt fine, just have to space things out more.
>>77529515Sounds like you've been through the wringer, thanks for sharing your story. Good luck, hope that things work out for you. It seems like you have a good grasp on things, and yeah pinning less frequently by a few days could be one way that you regulate your dose, but of course the priority should be keeping your heart and pancreas healthy or whatever. Good luck, WAGMI.
>>77529699>Individual vial resellerAt least you didn't be a faggot and call your shit GLP-2,3, etc.
>>77529515Stay with what you like
>>77529248I'm getting 10mg vials. So do I just reconstitute with 1ml of BAC?
After 4 months I got approved for 5 for zep after being on 2.5. Lost tons first 2 months but have been having hard time losing since that. Also injury stopped me from working out last month.
>>77530157Correct. Always do 10mg = 1mL BAC, 20mg = 2mL BAC, etc.
>>77530162Tirz will help with the pain.
>>77530165is that for every peptide?
>>77530191Mostly GLP-1s. The non GLP peptides have their own protocols which you need to research, such as GHK-CU, Epithalon, NAD+ Semax, Selank, FOXO-4 DRI, etc.
Has anybody tried running atx304 with tirz?
>>77530399What's ATX?
>>77530686Nasal peptide for cardio shit I think
>still targeting the goy-L-pee 1 receptor>in 2026>to stop eating and lose muscleHere are my metabolic targets, which are a wee bit more advanced...>Adiponectin, ACOX1, ATF4, AMPK, DPP-4, FGF21, GLS, GLUT1, GLUT4, GRP78, GSK3β, HADHA, HK2, HMGCR, HSP25, HSP72, InsR/IRS-1, JNK, KCNH6, Keap1, LDHA, MAPK, NF-κB, Nrf2, ODC, p38 MAPK, p70S6 kinase, PI3K/Akt, PKC, PKD, PKM2, PP2A, PPARγ, PPM1B, PTP1B, SHP, SIRT1/miR-204, SREBP-1c and TLR4.
>>77531171Fuck off clankerfag>>77530399>>77530686No real reason to bother with it over any other AMPK activatorAlso AMPK activators have issues such as becoming ineffective over timeJust do the exercise man
>>77530193DON'T tell them about FOXO, goddammit. The last thing we need is more anons living for over 300 years.
>>77528742GLP-shits are excellent. Mine take days to happen and when they do, it's the best feeling.
>>77531171You lost, fisetin tranny
>>77531887>You lost, fisetin tranny...most of my visceral fat? Yup, kek.
>>77531971None of your shit works. None.
>>77532644True.
>>77531171Are you the guy who recommended yam extract when those don't even work in animal cells? Kek
>>77533015Lmao, BTFO...>Diosgenin Alleviates Age-Related Sarcopenia by Promoting Satellite Cell Proliferation and Myogenic Differentiation via Activation of the SIRT1/PGC-1α Signaling Pathway>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/acel.70651>A tri-target in silico analysis of Testolift: a nutraceutical formulation targeting aromatase, myostatin, and prolyl hydroxylase-2 in testosterone regulation and muscle performance>https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-026-57541-y
Cool lads, but can you take your non GLP shit to a new thread?
>>77533197>https://www.investing.com/news/analyst-ratings/briley-reiterates-buy-on-viking-therapeutics-stock-after-trial-data-93CH-4911257>https://www.gurufocus.com/news/9092169/oppenheimer-raises-price-target-on-vktx-amid-positive-vk2735-data-shares-surge-31>dun mog whole GLP molecule class/thread>t. investor
>5mg Tirz (Food noise, appetite suppression, and inflammation treatment)>5mg Reta (Glucagon receptor burning brown fat actively, organ improvement, etc)Stacked weekly with GHK-CU (2mg daily, 12 weeks on, 4 weeks off), I feel incredible. 47kg down and counting.Life is good, gentlemen.
TIRZISKING
>>77533015He's called fisetin schizo.>>77533477Tirz is king, reta a shit (reta for retarded)
>>77533820Reta is good, but Tirz is better. No idea why the same few people are on a hateraid for it, but I've (and others) have had no problems.
>>77534226I had bad experiences with it therefore I shit on it. It doesn't mean other people will have bad experiences with it ofc.
Got a 2.5mg triz (zepbound) prescription. First month has been pretty cool, no side effects, lost a few pounds. Insurance didn't cover it though so it was $500 for the month through my local pharmacy. Is Eli Lilly direct cheaper than that? It says "Starting at $299*" per month on their website but I'm not sure if that's just for the first few months or something
>>77534395It is cheaper but not as cheap as black market peptides.
>>77504922Can you faggots stop posting this in fitness. This is an adv thread. There's nothing fit about admitting youre weak, and this is the definition of weakness.
>>77534579Keep coping tranny
>>77534630Lol, you put foreign substances in your body because you feel dysphoria for how you should actually look. Lol, how does it feel to be an actual tranny?
77534642We don't care, see >>77504927
Is there a general tips dump on the do's and dont's while in glps/reta? Anyone have some wisdom/ stuff he wishes knew beforehand? ? I start 1mg tomorrow with escalation every 4 weeks another 1 mg till apetite supression but still can eat or till sides appear.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-026-10427-5>GLP-1R–GIPR–PPARα/γ/δ quintuple agonism corrects obesity and diabetes in miceYou'll niggas ready for the tirzepatide-telmisartan miracle drug?
>>77534774Minimum effective dose. Ride out the doses for as long as you possibly can. Exercise some willpower if you need to.>t. low responder who escalated doses too quickly and can now outeat 15mg tirz/12mg reta
>>77534806that's exactly what i plan to do. I have a gym routine + doing PMSF diet for 2 months and have lost already 10-11 kg but i need to lose like another 25 to be normal bmi and its becoming unbearable not to eat. Basically i just wanna silence food noise.
>>77534804VRX-0075 will be OP as fuck.
>>77534814Try Tirz first. I'm a huge Reta user, but its food noise ability isn't great.If you don't want Tirz, try the non-GLP Cagrilintide. It's Amylin, but it's so overpoweringly strong that NO ONE goes above 1mg.
>>77534822desu i already got the reta and my chink plug (i think all of them) wont ship on my EU ass till mid october for some reason. Any tips as you already on reta mate?
>>77505026Noodle hands wrote this
Thinking also to document my weightloss with reta and post it here 2 times per month for some accountability.
>>77534929Yeah depends what you want to know mate, but basically I found that it had a true effect from 4mg onwards. I'm on 5mg every 6 days.>>77535024I have before and after photos for every week and a spreadsheet over the last 13 months of 47kg lost. My mistake was buying scales for home; weighing myself every day became soul crushing so I binned the cunts and went to my family's place for theirs every Sunday.
>>77534804>PPARδCancer bros... I don't feel so good...
>>77535061Like your meals or stuff that are big no no's like alcohol. You advise to pin every 6 days on half-life? Regarding the scale, i am kinda ocd and only care for the weekly average anyway. I think i will not take photos. i dont want any evidence that i ever was that fat. Like delete my old self.
>>77535136Yep 6 days for half-life, but it's all personal preference. People do just the 7 days, others split dose every 3-4 days, etc.You'll be eating much less, but for Reta, it actively burns brown fat, so believe it or not, you NEED carbs. As for alcohol, I still drink, but only spirits. Beers absolutely wreck me with sickness.
>>77535168Why would you need carbs especially on reta? How much carbs do you recommend?
>>77535175Science-wise? The glucagon receptor component naturally interacts with the body's glucose and glycogen pathways. Carbs play a moderate role in this as it increases metabolic rates to expend energy quicker, while increasing fat oxidisation. Reta doesn't solely require carbs to work, but they're a critical component in the glucacon process.As for how many carbs - not a whole lot, oats, maybe a sandwich, etc.
>>77535180i know glycolysis. I remember that glucagon interacts with the enzymes that catalyse the rate limiting step(s). I am sure it does for the first one that is PFK. I mean, glucagib interacts with like half of the rate limiting steps or sth from glycolysis to the electron trans chain. My point is though, wont we force gluconeogenesis without it? I mean,you have your triglicerides (stored fat) that break down to fatty acids (beta oxidation leading to atp) and glycerol (for gluconeogenesis). I remember acetylcoa from beta-ox favours gluconeogenesis
>>77533239I pinned 5mg of reta 3 days ago. i was doing 4.5mg but I said fuck it and did 5mg, and early too, like 4 to 5 days since my last pin. I was getting wicked heart palpitations. i wonder if it was the caffeine, so I cut that out now. I'm getting Tirz today. should I just pin 2.5mg right off the bat?
>>77534804>>77535070PPAR causes muscle breakdown.
>>77535839>I'm getting Tirz today. should I just pin 2.5mg right off the bat?Tirz is really gentle on the body. You can pin 2.5mg or even 5mg right off the bat.
>>77504922Whats with all the SM posts from nurses about glps calling them the 'weekly poke' like they're talking to a skittish toddler?
>>77535988Question, since both of them hit two of the same receptors, how is taking tirz with reta not like juat taking a double dose of reta?
I lost nearly 40kg in 9 months using Mounjaro. This stuff is a miracle drug. Now focusing on building muscle for the first time in my life because I am now weak af, even more than before. So worth it to become a normal sized person.
>>77515971I can easily out eat Mounjaro if I really want to, my appetite then stays high for a few days until I get used to being in a deficit again. (Or at maintenance right now, I'm about 3kg from my goal.) I wonder if people are just not giving the medication the chance to work and get used to the deficit.
>>77536055Reta also activates your glucogan receptor which forces your liver to constantly produce sugar.
>>77536067I think using GLP1 together with creatine and protein powder is a must for muscle maintenance.
>>77504922>been on tirz for a month>can no longer get high off DXMFUCK
>>77536852RIP
>>77536852Yes
>>77536043Ever since COVID, I never listen to nurses.
>>77538314Because too many were ill-informed anti-vaxxers? Or because you're cuckoo-banana pants and thought horse dewormer was a better option?
>>77538517>projecting
>>77536394Yep
I've lost enough weight that injecting feels painful now
>>77535168>burns brown fatIf I read this shit one more time in this thread I'm going to go insane. You fucking imbeciles Reta is not burning brown fat. Reta is activating brown fat, so it burns more calories.White fat = fat storage = badBrown fat = metabolically active = goodbrown fat is what keeps you warm in the winter because it generates heat, it burns fat and carbs in the process. Brown fat is POSITIVE.
>>77539469It burns brown fat, backed up by science. Deal with it.
Reta gave me shit sleep. Tirz is king
>>77535986δ doesn't>>77539593Glucagon agonists will tend to do this yeahI suspect most of the issues people have with reta are due to the fact that it is a glucagon agonist and thus not really good unless you're severely obese and struggle to mobilize energy in the first place (most people don't) - Tirz is king>>77539469Burning brown fat has little to do with needing carbs though
>>77504922Anyone not compounding their own drugs at home? Might pick a pharmacy from the Reddit FAQ like rift. 100$/m + pens are still significantly cheaper than pharma I don’t want to pay 300/400$ a m that’s insNe
>>77538517Antivaxxers lost their minds years ago.
damn, I'm making too much food and I'm on the lowest dosage.I have about half of the food I would eat today without the injections as leftovers.
>>77541286It's both good and bad - good because it means it's working, bad because it's a waste of food (unless you're having leftovers).
>>77540732There's nothing really wrong with getting from compounding pharmacies, but there are extra steps that stupid people shouldn't be responsible for carrying out.Like don't accidentally give yourself a 10x dose or something
>>77536394that didnt really answer my question though. when taking reta and tirz, aren't you doubling the GLP-1 and GIP effects depending how much you take, and wouldn't that increase side effects? I'm on 5mg reta right now and sometimes my intestinal area hurts and ever since I upped the dose to 5mg too fast I have been getting random heart thumps, like palpitations but the heart thumps strong and I can feel it in my neck and throat even. I hate that shit and wish I knew what it was, so I am slightly afraid to start 2.5mg of tirz as well
>>77541624Receptor overload happens, correct. It's why most people do high/low for the stacks (eg 5mg Tirz, 2mg Reta, or 5mg Reta, 2.5mg Tirz). We'll use Tirz as the example. If a regular Tirz user is on a near-max dose already say 10mg or 12.5mg, it's advised not to stack, unless you reduce it by at least half and then introduce Reta at the starter dose. Max dose stacking is just calling for a system overload and hospitalization.That's why I do Reta 5mg and Tirz 2.5mg, and won't go higher.
>>77541643is 2.5mg the starter dose for tirz, or should I start lower to play it safe?
>>77541729It's the starter dose, but it's up to you if you want to go lower.
how in god's name am i supposed to consume 150g of protein? it's 8pm and i've eaten 90g (consumed 1000 calories today)
>>77541748Protein shakes
>>77541748chicken breast, cottage cheese, egg whites, whey or other protein powders, skim milk. Also, you probably don't need that much protein anyway, apparently the 1g/lb of body weight rule isn't actually accurate.
>>77541791i'm 6'3 260, do you have a better estimate? i was shooting for 150g but most days i'm around 100g. just had a protein shake and got up to 110, but it's 10pm now and i shant forcefeed myself further.
>>77541729When I began, I did 1mg twice a week (so 2mg vs 2.5mg starting dose) b/c I have a sensitive tummy. Took me a few days to get used to how to eat and what to eat. If you have concerns about your digestion something like this is an option. Otherwise punch your ticket and take the ride.
>>77541861Are you actually lifting weights? If so you should probably hit 120-150g as a 6'3" male. Otherwise 90g is probably fine.
>>77541861I think aim for 0.7g/lb (or around 1.54g/kg) for your target bodyweight, keep track of your muscle mass to see if you're losing too much, adjust if necessary.
>>77541924>>77542554thanks fellas. think i'm going to shoot for 120-140. i just need to drink more protein than i have been.
>>77541920yeah but im planning to stack it with reta.
>>77541737I get the tirz today. but today is also the 7th day I have gone without redosing reta. so what would you recommend I do? pin tirz today and re dose the reta in 3 days? and do a 5 day cycle for each?
>>77542936Do Reta today, and then start Tirz in a few days. You can do them on whatever days you want, but an even split works much better.
I'm on tirz, still on 5mg now for 4 weeks, I can still overeat if I want to, but I don't, some days sure I do, but most days I don't, it's just much easier to stay on a defecit now, but I still don't really feel physically like I can't eat anymore, it has helped with my binging problems though, those are just extremely rare now, I have a feeling I can stay on 5mg forever, would that make sense? I'm trying to lose a bit more but also want to keep using it while maintaining my weight loss
>>77543062Yeah you can stay on the dose for a long time if it works. You mainly titrate up every month for effectiveness and personal tolerance. I knew a bloke who lost 30kg on the lowest dose of Sema and he never titrated up.
I'm the opposite, only been on tirz 5mg for about a week but it feels like 1000 calories is about the limit before I'll puke if I try to eat more. Not even close to hitting my protein goals, I don't get how I didn't burn all my muscle away years ago.
