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/lmg/ - a general dedicated to the discussion and development of local language models.

Previous threads: >>107864105 & >>107856424

►News
>(01/15) TranslateGemma released: https://hf.co/collections/google/translategemma
>(01/14) LongCat-Flash-Thinking-2601 released: https://hf.co/meituan-longcat/LongCat-HeavyMode-Summary
>(01/08) Jamba2 3B and Mini (52B-A12B) released: https://ai21.com/blog/introducing-jamba2
>(01/05) OpenPangu-R-72B-2512 (74B-A15B) released: https://hf.co/FreedomIntelligence/openPangu-R-72B-2512
>(01/05) Nemotron Speech ASR released: https://hf.co/blog/nvidia/nemotron-speech-asr-scaling-voice-agents

►News Archive: https://rentry.org/lmg-news-archive
►Glossary: https://rentry.org/lmg-glossary
►Links: https://rentry.org/LocalModelsLinks
►Official /lmg/ card: https://files.catbox.moe/cbclyf.png

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what's wrong with those niggers at google anyway, looking at their research paper they compare it to gemma 3 but never even mention 3n, which was superior to the regular 3 in all respects when it came to translation in all the language pairs I'm interested in
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>>107876973
because gemma 3n doesn't have large variants
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I finally built one. It started as a character RNN but I switched to tokens. It's pretty lightweight given its main function is to do some admin task in a bigger program it's embedded in as well as act as a knowledge repository with some reasoning components. Creating and parsing the training data from scratch was tough but rewarding. Getting the right patterns down with appropriate tags increased training success triplefold.
It's pretty addictive once the first one is done because it's super easy to make them modular and deployable which gives me a lot of ideas.
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Do you guys still have hopes for the next big models? Obviously it will be trained on 80%+ synthetic dataset.
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Is mistral large 123b any good? How does it compare to GLM and Minimax?

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Everything is already from China, but here we discuss the cheap chink shit you see on various sites.
1st rule of /csg/: If it looks too good to be true, it probably is.

Useful links
>TWS IEM reviews: www.scarbir.com/
>Guide: csg-guide.neocities.org/
>Wiki: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Chink_Shit_General

>What headphones/earbuds should I buy?
>>>/g/iemg
>I want a cheap smartphone what should I buy?
>>>/g/spg/
>I want to buy some sort of emulation device
>>>/vr/hhg/


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>>107874305
Mine is stuck literally in my city because USPS is incompetent
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Does anyone make an Android tablet with the form factor of an iPad mini and proper stylus support cheaper than the Tab Active 5? That seems to be the only 8" one with a stylus
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>private shipping
>label: skin massager
bruh
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>>107873142
>You have a low IQ if you don't care about how porn-addicted people represent themselves via BMP files hat they plaster on alternative custom firmwares for MP3 players.
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In one of the wildest moves I've ever seen USPS has taken my package from a large city 160mi from me, to my city, and then back to the same large city 160mi away 3 days later.

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God luddites are pathetic.

If a machine can do it for you it's a waste of time two learn to do it your shelf.

I don't even read or write anymore I use text to speech and voice recognition and I'm much more productive.

Enjoy wasting you're time aha aha aha.
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>>107877333
why do you have a prominent lisp being transcribed by your dictation software?
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I think lower elementary doesn't use calculators here. So they were right? Nice headline.
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>>107877333
then why go to school to learn anything?
just use AI
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>>107874103
And? Our math teachers didn't let us use Calculators. I didn't get a calculator, and even then it was a basic bitch calculator, until Calculus.

Those math teachers were 100% right and they also banned slide rules for the same reason.

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Why aren't you using zswap?
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Funny how my brain refuses to understand any of this, because it knows I have no use case for it.
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>>107877418
not exactly, zswap is compressed swap that is first stored in ram , and when the amount of compressed pages exceeds a defined limit, it is backed by actual swap, where as zram is not.
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>>107877302
What? Zram is just ram compressed by the OS. Most system configurations with zram (like fedora out of the box) use zram and swap.
Compressing and decompressing memory adds overhead though. Compressing only stuff that lands on swap is zswap and is better if you have plenty of ram, and it improves SSD lifespan
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>>107876382
i don't need it
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>>107877144
>>107877246
it's not enabled by default on debian either

>>107877249
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Zswap
>zswap is a kernel feature that provides a compressed RAM cache for swap pages. Pages which would otherwise be swapped out to disk are instead compressed and stored into a memory pool in RAM. Once the pool is full or the RAM is exhausted, the least recently used (LRU) page is decompressed and written to disk, as if it had not been intercepted. After the page has been decompressed into the swap cache, the compressed version in the pool can be freed.

>The difference compared to zram is that zswap works in conjunction with a swap device while zram with swap created on top of it is a swap device in RAM that does not require a backing swap device.

as far as i understand they do similar stuff until the compressed partition or whatever in ram runs out of space. then they differ. zram does some process killing or whatever, and zswap writes out to old school swap. it does actually do some swapping back and forth if the pages are hot i think. the usecase for zswap over zram is i believe when you routinely go well over your ram and into swap. i use it on this craptop because it has 4 gigs of ram and just loading gnome takes like 2 gigs of it. i routinely have a couple hundred megs at least in the swap

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Japanese basshead edition

How to request advice:
>Location (since pricing and availability may vary)
>Budget
>What exactly you're looking for (be as detailed as possible)
>Previous gear and your thoughts on it

>Open back wired headphones
• Hifiman HE400se
• Sennheiser HD 560S
• Sennheiser HD 6XX (US)
• FiiO FT1 Pro

>Closed back wired headphones

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>>107877142
yeah like 10 years ago
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Anyone know anything about the Audio-Technica ATH-A990Z?
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>>107877386
yeah i own a pair of them, they are just your classic too much bass v shape headphone really. if that's your thing they can be great, but the headband is fucking horrific, the cups are aluminum so they weigh enough where they are constantly being pulled down on your head and at least for me felt like they were constantly about to fall off. Maybe if your the right person they could be the perfect semi cheap closed option, but don't buy them from someone that doesn't take returns
I bought them on a warehouse deal for $100 cad like 2 years ago and i think i used them for a week before storing them because i'm too lazy to sell them
I don't think audio technica even sells replacement pads for them so your forced to deal with after market ones, over all your probably better off with dt 770s or something if you want a similiar headphone
although one big upside is that they have a pretty wide soundstage for a closed back, probably because the drivers are quite large, so for fps games it's pretty nice
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>>107877386
are these wing headbands? worst thing AT has ever done, avoid those fuckers if you can
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>>107877481
>are these wing headbands? worst thing AT has ever done, avoid those fuckers if you can
yep they are, i also have some r70x's and the wing shit has the added benefit, for me at least where it feels like they are falling off and skullfucking me at the same time, probably doesn't help the r70x pads are shit and the cups are way to small for anyone without small ears

Look who has just betrayed AI companies in America. So much for AI "winning the race" against China.

https://x.com/i/status/2011035726851522725
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>>107875978
Well if they’re in charge of everything, why aren’t they doing more to stop it? Trump literally signed an executive order that limits state regulations on ai.
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>>107855680
>let's just stir up chaos without any real policies.
Based. I unironically voted for this.
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>>107861740
>Bunch of private companies start up nuclear engery reactors
Yeah let's give H1b jeets access to plutonium. That will work out well.
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>>107864527
Chinkoids don't understand how crossing zebras work - do you think they can program a robot any better?
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>>107874258
>You mean they actually expected the average joe to fund their pipe dream?
They didn't expect you to do it willingly. Like how Windows 11 pushed Copilot into it, they expected every market and every company to simultaneously force their AI tools on all consumers and workers and thus have 100% integration by 2025.

What ended up actually happening is the companies they fucked over from hoarding hardware ended up not being rich enough to do that, and consumers just want AI to jerk their wieners off, they have no other use for a shittier version of Google.

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OLED is great
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I'm the dude from this screenshot >>107870587
Why are we still talking about this shit? After a few weeks it's still the same.
I don't understand why kids take sides in stuff they never seen. Wanna try oled? Buy a screen for $800. If it's gonna be bad, sell it next year and buy an LCD.
If you so afraid of everything, don't use anything or it might get damaged.
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>>107870562
LG strikes again.
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>>107875390
They can't afford even that, that's why they bitch and moan.
Otherwise there would be literally no argument against what you just said.
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My phone from 2019 is OLED and no burnin yet, my TV from 2021 is OLED and has no burnin, my PC displays from 2023 and 2025 are OLED and has no burnin.
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>>107872224
it's only noticeable under 90hz, but yes, 60hz feels like a stutterfest on oled.

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How do you fix the invisible clipboard? I tried resetting my computer already, turning it on and off, using administrative commands, using System32, resetting Windows Explorer. I did everything at this point.
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>using Windows
Imagine the smell
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>>107877415
Have you tried installing Linux?

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WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON? THE YEAR JUST STARTED, WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S ALREADY ALLOCATED? HELLO? WE THE CONSUMERS NEED RAM TOO YOU GREEDY MOTHERFUCKERS
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>>107876885
Anon with 5600 and 9060xt here. Bottleneck is not really an issue. That would be a problem with 5070ti/9070. The 5060ti/9060xt fit the 5600(x) well enough.
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>>107875867
99% of SBC do.
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>>107870713
I JUST FINISHED MY BACHELORS LAST YEAR AND GOT A JOB TODAY YOU FAT FUCKING NIGGER
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>>107872369
This. It's a ghost economy, AI datacenters build by workers that don't exist with resources not available only to power services with no customers.
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>>107870626
Start.Killing.Billionaires.

Words cannot express how much I hate the new start menu.

WHY WOULDNT THEY GIVE OPTION TO HIDE IT
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>>107874328
Why would they give you piggies anything? You'll eat up their slop whether they care for you or not.
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>>107874328
Bigger with less content. Got it.
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>>107875032
Not true in 2026
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>>107877369
kek Piggies eat their microslop no matter what you do or say.
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>>107874620
An amusing window into the niggercattle brain.

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Which captcha do you hate the most?
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The google one where it forced me to say a rumble strip was a crosswalk. I'm still traumatized.
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it seems now wasn't the best time to hop distros
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>>107876673
i keep getting the star ones when phone posting
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>>107876569
I actually like this one far more than Google's SLOW AS FUCK fading and gaslighting me into thinking I didn't select the correct boxes.

As for the 4chan captcha, fuck the "find the image with exactly X stars with Y spikes".
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if you can’t complete the 4chan suite in about 4 seconds you’re a megatard

What's the craziest feat of computer science that happened in 2025?
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>>107873019
found the californian
are you of slavic descent, by any chance?
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>>107866341
the big lebowski performing some espionage. excellent movie I highly recomment.
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>>107867484
if anything production has gotten cheaper
supply is only one half of supply and demand
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why do women pretend to have consciousness like this?
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I don't actually mind manly girls. Pic related drives me crazy for some reason, must be her outfits

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>What phone has X and Y feature?
Don't ask, use these!
https://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3
https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare-smartphones
https://phonedb.net/index.php?m=device&s=query

Good Resources:
>Reviews
https://www.gsmarena.com
https://www.phonearena.com
https://www.notebookcheck.net

>Frequency Checkers
https://www.frequencycheck.com
https://kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker

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>>107877140
it doesnt really depend on if the source is open or not, but how many devices it has to support. see windows, it's dogshit but closed source
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If you don't own one of these phones it's time to stop being poor
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>>107877248
>youtube
There is a modded youtube app, there's actually a bunch of modded apps out there though not as plenty as the revanced suit I think.
You can sideload apps after jumping through some hoops but you can only sideload 3 at a time and have to refresh them weekly. There's a way to work around the app limit with some caveats.
>adblock
Exists and they're just apps you can download.
>passwords
Idk about this one, never even touched the passwords app. I've always used keepassx.
>websites as apps
You can install PWAs to the homescreen though I've never used this.
>chance
Works. Using it right now actually.
>earbuds
I use my old galaxy buds+ with it and it works just fine, controls, settings and all. Audio quality is the same as ever.
>battery

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>>107877273
>can't install Gentoo on either of them
E-waste
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>>107877357
Oh well, just ordered the 16 Pro Max. Allegedly brand new, 12 months Apple warranty, 256GB Desert Titanium. Will get to "inspect & test" it in the courier office for any obvious physical damage, serial number, and then boot it up to test battery health, genuine parts, software/hardware functionality like cameras, speakers and microphone, etc.
Let's hope for the best! Worst case scenario it doesn't match the description or has some easily noticeable flaws/malfunctions and I just pay the 10 euro goodgoy tax to ship it back to him as-is.

>Humanity creates something incredible that could save humanity
>Actually uses it for war and to scam people

Every fucking time, and don't expect anything else from quantum computers.
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>>107877230
chatgpt yesterday
>hey AI explain me this
>tells me absolute nonsense
>I google the right answer in few seconds
>hey AI you are wrong
>AI explains me over and over its answer is right and im wrong
>just search it on the internet AI
>oh human im so sorry i was wrong, but im still right because i cant verify every answer on the internet, that is not how i work

for 15minutes it tried to prove me wrong, this is what they need all the RAM for?

some non critical thinking normie would even believe the AI
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>>107877230
Maybe only a year ago I wouldn't have said this but...
It's a result of capitalism unchecked. You can't have a moral society without shackling the profit motive for the benefit of the people.
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>>107877307
You are as retarded as a normalfag because you think you can explain things to an unthinking auto-complete.

Anyway, what is currently marketed as "AI" has no possible value to anyone. It's the new crypto, but even that had a minor use case for letting criminals buy drugs anonymously.
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>>107877295
I'm sorry you lack the discipline to learn a skill.
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>>107877230
usecase for saving humanity?
Some of you guys fell way too hard for the gay luxury space communism meme. Humans don't work together in harmony towards a greater good, humans compete and kill to secure every scrap of resources for themselves. Humans only cooperate amicably when they personally stand to make more that way than by competing

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>does several things really well and has never had an adequate replacement
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>>107867907
Infect your computer with malware.
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>>107871115
because that is retarded
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>>107875699
flash was laggy as shit brosef. i mean maybe youre right comparatively but it was still crap
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>>107876278
this desu.
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>>107867907
Get used by people who care about optimization.


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