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Do any of you use this? Is it usable in practice?
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>>107743607
>PVH qubes don't use QEMU. Also KVM is not used in QubesOS at all. QEMU is used for stub device domains for HVM qubes or sys-usb / sys-network / other pci device qubes (which are all HVM
I see, I didn't know/remember that (I haven't used Qubes in about a decade).
still, you have multiple points where your data passes through. doesn't mean you can easily obtain data or compromise everything, but the attack area is not small.

>that's up to you as a user to compartmentalize your system according to your threat model
sure, but the Qubes team could do a lot more, like ship hardened VMs or ways to automate the hardening mitigation measures on install.
that's one of the main criticisms against Qubes. isolation on itself does little, and does even less when you don't harden shit...

>the only connection is Xen backend drivers and yes they're included in the TCB.
notifications and command messaging are also communications. do you think there can't be vulns there?

>I don't know what that even is. I think you're just making shit up.
router* AppVM, sys-net.


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>>107743163
Using Qubes without taking advantage of its compartmentalization feature is just retarded. Qubes have passwordless sudo and are relatively unhardened by default compared to a standard Linux installation, so doing everything in one Qube can actually be worse than just using typical Linux from a security standpoint. If you're not compartmentalizing, then you're doing Qubes wrong. At the very least, you should keep your passwords stored in an offline vault instead of keeping them in an AppVM which connects to the internet.
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>>107743850
>still, you have multiple points where your data passes through.
no such major points where a data passes like you're thinking of (QEMU process on top of Xen etc.). Default qubes are PVH, which is paravirtualized mode with CPU virtualization extensions. The guest kernel natively runs on top of the Xen with paravirtualized interfaces. No QEMU process or such thing. There's stub domains with QEMU processes for HVM qubes but those are also VMs as well (except less secure since those are PV instead of PVH). I do not recommend running HVM qubes out of the neccessary sys-net / sys-usb and others.

If you mean sys-net -> sys-firewall -> ** -> app-vm network chain, the data is passed through xen netback/netfront. that's one thing that needs to be scrutinized (other than the Xen internal thingies). Proxy chains do not decrease the security. The attack surface is smaller than most other setups.

>sure, but the Qubes team could do a lot more, like ship hardened VMs or ways to automate the hardening mitigation measures on install.
Qubes' threat model assumes the guest OS is compromised. The trust boundry is between the VMs, not inside the VM. But it doesn't stop you from using hardened guests. In fact, the downloadable templates include Kicksecure which is same as Whonix but for desktop usage.

to ship with Kicksecure by default instead of one of the most used Linux distros (Debian, Fedora) makes very little sense because guest OS's security is not the project's main goal. They do not guarantee it. This is how an actual threat modeling is done, instead of throwing random things at the kitchen sink.

>isolation on itself does little
that's the whole point of the project. if you're not going to benefit from compartmentalization or deliberately avoid it then there's no reason to install Qubes OS to begin with.
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>>107744793
cont.

>notifications and command messaging are also communications. do you think there can't be vulns there?
actually... yes. I completely forgot about event channels, xenstore and grant tables since I haven't been using vanilla xen for quite some time too. They are the one of the most dense in amount of vulnerabilities. as I said here >>107742330 Xen isn't the pinnacle of type-1 hypervisor design. But it's still a hypervisor after all and its vulnerabilities are only compared to other hypervisors. see https://github.com/hardenedlinux/grsecurity-101-tutorials/blob/master/virt_security.md#avoid-xen-if-you-can

>Qubes gives you root by default, so it's not like an attacker needs that shit to steal data, but even if you modified the VMs to ask for root, an attacker could compromise your browser.
again that's not a part of the Qubes' threat model. An attacker inside an untrusted VM has no access to your browser. You're not supposed to do sketchy things inside your trusted VMs, like opening a random PDF file. Qubes actually has default dropdown entries for opening files in file-manager inside a disposable VM. It even has a document sanitizer which literally takes photos of the documents by opening them in a disposable VM and sending the pixel data over a channel to be reconstructed into a document again.

>it's ok to think you are protected by isolation. keep thinking Qubes will save you from getting pwned
What even is the argument here aside from the things I already answered? Why would isolation not work?
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>>107743986
>Qubes have passwordless sudo and are relatively unhardened by default compared to a standard Linux installation, so doing everything in one Qube can actually be worse than just using typical Linux from a security standpoint
that might be correct if you're using just one qube with paswordless root.
>If you're not compartmentalizing, then you're doing Qubes wrong.
it's not a matter of right or wrong. you claimed it offered no extra value, which I disagreed with explanation.

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are KOSS headphones any good? or are they influencer slop?
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>>107740526
>>107742489
IEMs have tips, earbuds don't. It's not complicated. Say earphones if you want to include both.
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>>107743318
1cm
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>>107734191
f4mi my beloved
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>>107736830
She's a woman but she's bisexual.
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>>107734191
koss portapros still sound good for the price, people like this guy just have bad taste
>>107734249

you already know that for years now, big tech has been paying shills to shit-talk Linux and other FOSS projects
and with all the AI progress, most of the shilling is not done manually any more, it is mostly automated bots

so why not fight fire with fire?
why don't we set up something that scans internet for relevant discussions and automatically makes posts that promote Linux and digital freedom?
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honestly the shilling is tiring, and I honestly wish the worst possible fate to whomever is bankrolling it
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>>107741400
>so why not fight fire with fire?
Because we're better than that.
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>>107743652
>he said on 4chins
lol
lmao
all right faggot, I'll bite
what better ways are there countering the systemic globohomo FAGMAN propaganda?
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>>107744336
getting them luigi'd is the only real way I know
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>>107741400
Linux is not free software
Hasnt been since 1996

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Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***

Before asking for help, please check our list of resources.

If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
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1) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice on bare metal and run your previous OS in a Virtual Machine.
2) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything.
3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.

Resources: Please spend at least a minute to check a web search engine with your question.
Many free software projects have active mailing lists.


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is this a good bubblewrap script to isolate web development tools? I don't want to get fucked up by running random npm commands. Already tried containers the upkeep was quite a lot of work.
bwrap \
--ro-bind /usr /usr \
--ro-bind /bin /bin \
--ro-bind /lib /lib \
--ro-bind /lib64 /lib64 \
--ro-bind /sbin /sbin \
--ro-bind /etc /etc \
--proc /proc \
--dev /dev \
--tmpfs /tmp \
--clearenv \
--die-with-parent \
--unshare-pid \
--unshare-uts \


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Does anyone know why when I plug in my generic wired gamepad from walmart it just vibrates non-stop?

For some reason it's being recognized as nintendo
$ lsusb
Bus 002 Device 008: ID 057e:2009 Nintendo Co., Ltd Switch Pro Controller


I googled and tried modprobe -r hid-nintendo, that did nothing.
It's xbox style, but xboxdrv doesn't recognize it.

It just sits there rumbling non-stop as soon as it's plugged in.
I'm on void with x11 xfce
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>>107744671
What is the brand name? Some peripherals have firmware issues and this applies to mice even.
If it is fully USB compliant it should not vibrate because usb is a standard, so it's more likely a kernel module issue afaik.
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>>107744384
>changed image hash so people can't see you already posted it over 9000 times
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>>107744671
Also: you can probably reset the firmware of the controller by pressing 'home' button when plugging it in or something but this can vary.
8bit do controllers have this feature for example.

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What kind of RAM fans do you guys use for DDR5 6000mhz?

I'm satisfied with this one, it keeps my ram running cool as a cucumber.
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>>107744489
Performative male.
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>>107744489
ram go brrrrrr
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>>107744583
Is that a fucking Skulltrail? Wew
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>>107744595
fuck yeah it is
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>>107744420
>>107744423
sorry guys this is my fault, I was googling water-blocks for ram earlier and it definitely woke up the algos

mpv ffmpeg yt-dlp
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>>107743382
Just put your display on 120hz or something
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>>107743382
you dont need to adjust anything on 240hz displays
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>>107744173
muchos dankos
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>>107743817
that's good info, thank you. I used an llm to make an ffmpeg command of that, but I cannot encode to opus because there is a 5.1(side) stream, which opus apparently doesn't support. when using '-c:a copy' I don't have any audio, I need to figure this out. Is this setup optimized for space or image quality, or balanced? Since this is not important stuff I could live with some image quality degradation if I could significantly reduce the file size. I encoded two minutes and I got 775 kB/s (or 6.2 kBit/s), which is only a sixth of the original (the h264 encoded file), which is great (it didn't have audio however).
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>>107743382
video-sync=display-vdrop

Closed source software is not the same as patent protected software. Releasing a offline usable closed source binary under no license is so much more ethical then a proprietary (patent) license that threatens people with prison time and civil liability for sharing/modifying software or using it the wrong way. Also the addition of spyware sometimes and cloud tethering. Which I also oppose.

But it seems TMK that Stallman may conflate offline usable closed source and patented software as if they are both as bad. but maybe some people know more about him then I do, Does he recognize the difference and what does /g/ think of the difference? I'm saying I strongly agree with Stallman big tech patent hoarding and patent trolling is harmful, and and I view the GPL3 like a voluntary contract programmers agree to participate in and hope to abolish all patents one day, but I'm not following his logic that seems to hint at closed source software being illegal as an ultimate goal. Patents should be illegal but not software with no public code.
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>>107736639
You are retarded and don't understand the point of software freedom
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>>107741960
>get the jab,goyim! and remember about your mask!
>her body her choice! Now stay back so I can abort your children, goyim!
>Pedophilia is good actually, me raping your kids won't hurt them, trust me, goyim!
>Now repeat with me, I AM FREE!Right, goyim?
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>>107737754
my brain had a malfunction I conflated patented software and copyright software with heavy restrictions.

I think all copyright should be replaced with non disclosure and public agreements. NDA for closed source among a team of developers. And the GPL3 and BSD reimagined as a public contract that activates whenever someone modifies GPL code.

Honestly if it was just copyright laws preventing sharing of software I wouldn't care. What pisses me off is how ideas are protected by the state. In example Adobe held a 20 year patent on adjustment layers, or Namco patenting the loading screen mini games. Or how some licenses say you can't legally modify the software even in your home or only they can fix the hardware. Similar to right to repair laws. That is what I am against.

It just seems that Stallman views it as a human right to modify other people's software, that is where I disagree. Its a voluntary agreement of people participating in GPL3 software.

>>107737922
Fact check them. Grok and DeepSeek do not understand but they do have very good fact checking abilities.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GROKvsMAGA/

The most likely hallucinations are when Grok gives something that sounds like an answer but is a complete fabrication. DeepSeek doesn't do that much at all but Grok does from time to time. Other then source checking the best thing to do is have the same conversation with different AIs several times and look for consistency and tell them to cite the sources.
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>>107742247
Just like people on Mastodon fall short of understanding freedom. The concept of positive vs negative liberty.

Dude on Mastodon rails against software patents, big tech cloud tethering everyone's software, and supports local offline software use. I strongly agree with him there. Then I read more of his post and he goes on about how much he loves the EU and thinks that Government should pay all FOSS devs and how a massive welfare state is salvation. That's the point I diverge on. Its positive vs negative liberty and I have taken negative liberty to its logical conclusions. Where as the people on Mastodon and Stallman are mixing both in inconsistent ways.

Stallman wants total digital sovereignty as do I
but he also wants to keep the strong centralized government to provide welfare state creature comforts.I don't think you can have a Government that represents the people and as I cited in a previous post the EU is violating civil liberties while leftist on Mastodon celebrate them . Stallman expects both total privacy where Government doesn't know who you are and a massive welfare state to care for people. That is a huge logical contradiction he has. You can't have both and you must pick one, freedom or dependency!

https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/107698501/#107700202
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/107561690/#107564545

>>107737922
When taking negative liberty to its extreme conclusion it would be better to live in a world without GPL3 licensing if it meant that most copyright and all patents were abolished since the early 90s onward. But we'd have to do that from the start, as like I said patents already gave capitalist pigs a huge advantage that can't be undone. The timeline we're in is fucked
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>>107742264
>pedophilia is good actually

Yes.

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Stop calling AI "Slop".

https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/microsoft-ceo-satya-nadella-really-wants-you-to-stop-calling-ai-slop-in-2026
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>>107744615
His writing makes less sense than your exaggerated example though
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>>107743219
How did he even receive citizenship, is he on h1b visa? Why are all ceo's in western world jeets while in chi-nah there are nowhere to be seen?
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>>107744561
Indian food is actually nice.
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>>107744687

Corporate America was blindsided at the worst time. A combination of greed (wanting their cheap workers) and discrimination (indians took full advantage of DEI policies while not being retarded blacks). Top end Indians present well as competent people, you don't really see the long term scam coming, which is giving the entire operation to their fellow Indians.
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>>107743228
fpbp
https://youtu.be/AXnnWt86lXY?

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>What phone has X and Y feature?
Don't ask, use these!
https://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3
https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare-smartphones
https://phonedb.net/index.php?m=device&s=query

Good Resources:
>Reviews
https://www.gsmarena.com
https://www.phonearena.com
https://www.notebookcheck.net

>Frequency Checkers
https://www.frequencycheck.com
https://kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker

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Sheesh the buck broken op is still baking flame war instigating threads using iPhone images and posting fake misinformation as usual.
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>>107744657
>most people are perfect goyim (cattle).png
grim
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>>107744444
why is it street shitters care so much about phones? normal people just buy the cheapest thing
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poco f7 won
https://crdroid.net/onyx/12

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Vivian edition

How to request advice:
>Budget
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
>Frequency response preference and music examples
>Past gear and your thoughts on them

FAQ:
>Where do I buy IEMs?
Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio

>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):
https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide


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>>107744650
There's a difference between personal EQ and noeq(you). You'll have to trust me on this one, sorry.
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>>107744656
lol
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>>107744432
>namely the CSD plot supposedly flattened to dead flat by EQ alone
Only those who don't know how IEMs work find this strange btw.
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>>107744688
I don't know what you're sorry about, because I don't care.
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>>107744767
they'd get an aneurysm from reading what toole and olive wrote about csd

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>want to create a thread
>google image search for image to use
>"Can't load file."

What is going on? What happened to .png and .jpg?
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>>107744558
Replaced by bitmaps.
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>>107744558
You are on one of the most outdated and obsolete websites in the world. There a huge destructive compromise that resulted from exactly just that. So you have to convert super futuristic image formats like webp (really from 2008) to PNG first before you upload it to this fax machine of a website.
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>>107744646
forgot link related


https://www.portnox.com/blog/cyber-attacks/ghostscripted-how-4chan-got-haunted-by-2012-tech/
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>>107744646
But even .jpgs don't work for me sometimes like this. Is this just 4chanx being retarded?

https://tolkiengateway.net/w/images/5/5e/The_Lord_of_the_Rings_-_The_Return_of_the_King_-_Ensemble_poster.jpg
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>>107744748
It's likely this is a jpegli... not supported either lol

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>People spend 10s or even 100s of thousands on Universities and Colleges
>Won't donate $2.75 to Wikipedia

Why won't you say thank you to Jimbo?
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>>107744333
What did you say kike?
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>>107744544
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>>107744560
The exception proves that a rule exists
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sorry dimmeh, looks like you're gonna have to hold your breath for another full year again
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>>107739648
wikipedia is censored trash and is just another unofficial propaganda arm of the media
he can fuck off

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Happy 2026 edition

>Not sure what private trackers are all about?
A private tracker is an invite-only torrent website. Each member shares common goals: collecting, preserving and discussing media.

>Have a question?
- FAQ https://archive.is/UVQkn
- WIKI https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Private_trackers
- NEWFAG PYRAMID https://inviteroute.github.io/graph or https://inviteroute.github.io/sheet/
- STUDY https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/2F379FE0CB50DF502F0075119FD3E060
- SPREADSHEET https://hdvinnie.github.io/Private-Trackers-Spreadsheet/
- TEN CURRY COMMANDMENTS https://pastebin.com/raw/dBbdE73M
- TEN NEON COMMANDMENTS https://pastebin.com/raw/Ud2pGYaE
- RED SPAMMER'S BIBLE https://rentry.org/69zbxh4h
- #ptg is on irc.sageru.org but it's pretty dead

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>>107743910
Sure buddy sure.
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>>107741105
when will this shit support renaming as far as qbittorrent?
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what happend to BTN how did it go from 35k users to 30k? What are some easy uploads to BTN?
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For anyone who is in a cabal indexer can you explain how user ranks work? Do they even have ranks? Do you just upload nzbs to rank up?
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>>107736015
Im in .in but need moe and OMG. Maybe one day...

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HP-UX hit EOL 12/31/25, no future patches. Not many commercial Unixes left.
https://www.osnews.com/story/144094/hp-ux-hits-end-of-life-today-and-im-sad/
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>>107740512
Xinuos (deadname SCO) has two Unixes they stlll sell, Unixware and OpenServer. They apparently have the same kernel but different syscalls implemented via different personalities, the former apparently more SVR3 and the latter more SVR4 flavored (technically they branded it as SVR5 but it's the only fruit from that tree so not a very useful descriptor). Also some different administrative tools apparently.
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>>107743508
sorry mixed those up, Unixware is SVR4 and OpenServer is SVR3.
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>>107742041
Those boxes predate the mandated backdoors you will find in all new machines.
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>>107740705
UNIX™ is made up bullshit. Linux was UNIX™ certified when someone bothered to pay for that certificate.
https://www.huawei.com/en/news/2016/9/huawei-kunlun-euleros-unix-certification
Windows can be UNIX™ certified next month if Microsoft decides to pay.
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>>107740702
it does look good, and yes, it sucks to actually use. I've tried CDE or nsCDE before and it was comfy but pretty clunky.

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>tfw you don't need to upgrade your PC in 2026
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>>107725954
nice
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>tfw you don't need to upgrade your PC in 2012
>tfw you don't need to upgrade your PC in 2013
>tfw you don't need to upgrade your PC in 2014
>tfw you don't need to upgrade your PC in 2015
>tfw you don't need to upgrade your PC in 2016
>tfw you don't need to upgrade your PC in 2017
>tfw you don't need to upgrade your PC in 2018
>tfw you don't need to upgrade your PC in 2019
>tfw you don't need to upgrade your PC in 2020
>tfw you don't need to upgrade your PC in 2021
>tfw you don't need to upgrade your PC in 2022
>tfw you don't need to upgrade your PC in 2023
>tfw you don't need to upgrade your PC in 2024
>tfw you don't need to upgrade your PC in 2025
>tfw you don't need to upgrade your PC in 2026
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my laptop runs OSRS and that's all i need
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>>107741387
the GOAT
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>>107725772
>64 gb ram
>4090 for msrp
>7950x3d
don't need to upgrade for a long time


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