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>gtk is a joke
>qt is a bloated and nonfree
How do we save Linux desktop?
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up
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>>107642570
The most important thing for a UI is consistency and Linux will NEVER have that because fragmentation and decentralization are a failed experiment
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>>107642570
nkdsh scaramouche
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>>107645593
upstream is a dead retard instead
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>>107649128
>tkinter has no themes
your 2002 is calling

How about a lil "thank you"?
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>>107649898
2 more weeks
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>>107649011
>Saves big tech
Big tech deserves to die.
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>>107649704
>no you dont understand its not a bull thats fucking my wife
>im just willing to adjust
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>>107649436
What I did differently is simply not introduce tarriffs just to revert them.
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>>107649430
He makes up problems and then chickens out of his proposed solutions.
Of course, this results in real problems, which is why the farmers are getting bailed out again.

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On the 10th day of Christmas 3D Realms gave to me
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And a copy of Duke Nukem 3D
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Good thread OP.

>>107650040
Anymore leaks since 2022?
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>>107650012
I remember playing this game on my PII circa 1998.
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>>107650081
WARNING: TEENAGE CONTENT
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>>107650023
Retard.

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https://www.thurrott.com/dev/330980/microsoft-to-replace-all-c-c-code-with-rust-by-2030

>Our North Star is ‘1 engineer, 1 month, 1 million lines of code.’ To accomplish this previously unimaginable task, we’ve built a powerful code processing infrastructure. Our algorithmic infrastructure creates a scalable graph over source code at scale. Our AI processing infrastructure then enables us to apply AI agents, guided by algorithms, to make code modifications at scale. The core of this infrastructure is already operating at scale on problems such as code understanding.”

LOL
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>>107650741
>please, explain to me what language was Windows written in
Haskell
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>>107649118
>Lisp.
I have refused to learn or use that language simply because it has a stupid name.
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>>107644728
SIX SEVEN!!!
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>>107650797
>t. Enterprise JavaBeans developer
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>>107650797
World's first dysfunctional programmer XD

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Why is PC stagnating HARD?
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>>107640614
Why doesn't the PS5 have any games?
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>>107649047
>I buy cars for less than $1000
every car I've seen in the US below 1000 has a gaping hole somewhere, I mean if you can put it back together
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>>107640614
>1000€ ps5 pro
>720p upscaled to 4k with a worse upscaler than fsr4
>Less rt performance than a 4050.
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>>107649047
We know jeet
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>>107640614

pc like universal machine poor in everything
xbox more powerfull and yet like terminal for ms cs
ps5 most powerfull but corporation expiration date bullshit

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The team collected videos where creators show an on-screen gamepad overlay to train the AI.

NitroGen learned to map gameplay pixels to gamepad actions. It currently only works with controller based games.

nitrogen.minedojo.org
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>>107649927
nta but I've been suspected of botting the grind when all I did was press a series of buttons in fixed order for 2-3 hours while watching movies.
Once actually had to film myself dong it to get unbanned. And then they changed the UI to require mouse interaction to restart the grind.
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>>107624894
No shmups?
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>>107624894
Could be useful if it can do the daily tasks on gacha games.

Or grind in MMORPG.
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>>107624894
What will be the shitty half baked authoritarian measure introduced to "deter bots"?
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>>107624911
Good idea.

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You'll only read/watch/play 1% of that stuff in your entire life.
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>>107641451
>check game store
>original game has been removed and replaced with a 3x more expensive downgrade
>ctrl+f through hard drive containing every single rom/iso from a particular console
>game is still there
It's a good feeling. It does not happen often but that occasional 1% makes it quite worth it.
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>>107641735
Yeah, it's really fun to revisit stuff from a couple years back. It really is a shame that I've never bothered to back anything up prior to 2017 or so.
I think it started with some youtube video getting deleted and then I just started to save the stuff that I liked and wasn't sure if it's going to stay up.
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>>107641451
not true
i datahorde mostly chubby milf porn (mostly jav, but there's some western stuff too), some of which is hard to come by and/or old
and i get a ton of repeat mileage out of it because i jerk off a lot

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>>107644911
Pretty much the same as you. I went from zero to hero in terms of Linux server administration just from setting up my own Debian ZFS server from the ground up.

>>107647154
Unraid costs money to use. Synology NASs are also a massive ripoff if you know how to build a computer yourself.
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>>107648468
Bluray remuxes are big

Why is it so expensive why not just build a pc instead with that money probably with better performance.
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Because it’s small and energy efficient
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>>107650167
Bro this bitch pulls in 200 watts.
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>>107649924
128gb RAM with ~250gb/s memory bandwidth. main use case - running local LLM. graphics card ~4060/4070, so also some vidya. otherwise regular working pc.
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>>107650178
8 channel 128 GB 8000 Mhz VRAM

You cant get that anywhere else with that price
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>>107650167
so is my dih

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/dpt/ - Daily Programming Thread

Welcome to the Daily Programming Thread. What are you working on, /g/?
Previous thread: >>107575071
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>>107635407
cant believe it is over already
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>>107649554
ofc. defense, formal verification. complicated stuff.
thanks, anon
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>>107646158
>there is no way to carry the "x is a valid reference" witness around
Compilers are very good at carrying that around. You put the validity check in everywhere you're going to use it, and the compiler optimises almost all of them out because it does path tracing and sees that you are just repeating a test you already did. (Yes, it isn't guaranteed, but it's a very common thing and semantically correct.)
The path where the check fails must not merge with the other path; calling abort() after printing an error message is the best option. And you probably want to avoid changing the pointer.

OTOH, if you really want to have a number be a pointer, you can. You just probably ought to make it a volatile pointer because the main use for this is memory-mapped hardware bitbashing. Which is fun.
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>>107649337
I think all of this makes sense, thank you for your input.
The only case where the generated code for one shift operator should have more than one instructions is when the RHS is not known at compile time so it's not that bad to make the compiler implement a unique spec for all architectures.

>Negative shifts shouldn't be allowed.
Yes, the RHS should be unsigned. Do you have an opinion concerning the width of the RHS though? I came to think that the RHS should be a uint8_t, but maybe this is too restrictive?
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What IRC channels do you frequent anon?
I'm currently using libera chat's Emacs and Linux channels, but I'd love to hear of any other ones that may be fun to go on.

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> Web developers are not real programmers.
How do you respond?
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>>107640263
Every time I see this fucking guy all I can think of is that he looks just like the first opponent in the game "George Foreman's KO Boxing" on the NES. He looks just exactly the fuckin same
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Ok now that we've established that nobody is a programmer. Can everybody be fired?

>>107650280
He is a such a motherfucker, expect more raids on mar-a-lago. They will clean up those ladders and the cum for minimum wage.
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>>107650305
Thank God only my penis is dark.
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>>107643667
>we so much smarter than white people
>but only in white countries

India is a shithole, and you look and smell like a turd that it shitted out.
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>>107640263
Yout are correct. Now shut the fuck up faggot.

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>Read the sticky: >>105076684

>GNU/Linux questions >>>/g/fglt
>Windows questions >>>/g/fwt
>PC building? >>>/g/pcbg
>Programming questions >>>/g/dpt
>Obsolete laptops >>>/g/tpg
>Cheap electronics >>>/g/csg
>Server questions >>>/g/hsg
>Buying headphones >>>/g/hpg
>How to find/activate any version of Windows?
https://rentry.org/installwindows

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I'm getting 403'd by a website when using the two computers that are physically connected to my modem/router, but not when using my phone's wifi connected to the same equipment. What gives?
And no, I didn't do anything fuckwad-y while using the site, it just started doing it one day.

answers from previous thread:
- no, the phone isn't redirecting to cell networking
- yes, ip is dynamic
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>>107649471
I don't have neighbours though. I'd be fine running SQM on my computer at like 200mbps.
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>>107650376
Try it, but I doubt it'll help.
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For fuck's sake. My 1.5 year old modern thinkpad has a rattling fan and a drifting trackpoint.
Are modern macs any good in terms of quality and longevity? I don't care much about the frame since I'm not planning on dropping them, just in terms of continuing to work for 4-5 years without the fans or keyboard or trackpad falling apart.

And yes yes I heard all about the ultrathin keyboards being shit but I know apple updates their designs every couple of years and the quality varies a lot from what I remember. Are modern macbook pros decent for this or still shit?
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>>107647018
Is fiverr a good place to start looking for freelancing jobs?

/lmg/ - a general dedicated to the discussion and development of local language models.

Previous threads: >>107636165 & >>107623385

►News
>(12/22) GLM-4.7: Advancing the Coding Capability: https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.7
>(12/17) Introducing Meta Segment Anything Model Audio: https://ai.meta.com/samaudio
>(12/16) MiMo-V2-Flash 309B-A15B released: https://mimo.xiaomi.com/blog/mimo-v2-flash
>(12/16) GLM4V vision encoder support merged: https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/pull/18042
>(12/15) llama.cpp automation for memory allocation: https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/discussions/18049

►News Archive: https://rentry.org/lmg-news-archive
►Glossary: https://rentry.org/lmg-glossary
►Links: https://rentry.org/LocalModelsLinks
►Official /lmg/ card: https://files.catbox.moe/cbclyf.png

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>>107651074
i make it all myself :)
nobody knows what i want but me
everything online is low quality
or just browse /aicg/ for cards idk how other people even use these things, i'm playing sex DnD with mine. the dice rolls fix the problem of LLM predictability
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>>107650743
yes, I will spend Christmas on my computer and continue being anti-social
thanks for asking
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>>107651155
the best thing to do
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miggers

I'm seeing all this shit on YT, forums etc.
>DDR5 prices at 400%
>SSDs are next
>you won't be able to afford a PC
>Win11 is Satan's anus
>AI will replace you, spy on you
>you will own nothing
The thing is, for over a decade we have been stuck in this stupid hype-for-new-tech upgrade cycle. Suddenly 4 cores was no longer enough, 16 gigs of RAM not enough, 2TB being the go to size. PeeSeaMastaReis, RGB, wireless. Where are the tech improvements though? Games looks worse and play worse than shit that came out in 2007. People are on fiber now, but webpages still take a few seconds to load. I use my computer the exact same way I used it when it was a big white box, paired with bulky 14'' CRT - watch movies, listen to music, play games, write code. AI is only useful for cutting down time on googling something, but then you still have to check if you can trust it, same goes for code troubleshooting, it's good for finding typos, but terrible for suggesting optimizations (which it does unprompted, and no, that toString() fucking stays!).
I'm actually thinking this: all this price hike and shortage isn't the end of the world. It's back to sanity. 4 cores, 8GB, iGPU, 512 SSD isn't shit. It's still going to play music, movies and vidya (still a better machine than I ran Crysis with when it came out). Normie-friendly Linux distros have been a thing since Mandriva and Ubuntu, but now they cover gaming too (Cachy, Bazzite, Nobara).
We haven't been progressing for over a decade, yet buying more expensive hardware to have the exact same (or worse) experience. I have a shitty low-tier Thinkpad the sole purpouse of which is to play music, movies and emulate arcade games through Fightcade for when friends visit. That thing is hooked up to a 4K TV and does fine, I use it more than my beefy desktop, just because of the couch-experience. IMO, a GPU or DDR5 stick could cost 10K bucks and it still wouldn't care. Whatever computer you have, hasn't been obsolete since 2015.
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>>107648439
>Oh you're one of those kind of retards
By quoting someone else? Explain your logic? Or maybe you didn't read the post and don't understand what green-text is?
I also experienced all the price hikes that happened before and always just endured. My upgrade cycle is between 5-6 years and that was only because of things like this >>107648451
Last upgrade I did was in July and after a week I realised it wasn't necessary, it was something I was planning as part of that cycle, had the money, pulled the trigger and it was stupid. Now my biggest bottleneck is the keypress delay setting in my OS and general wireless interference becoming a meme when every peripheral is running of a 2,4 dongle.
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>>107648301
You're one of the .0001% of people that actually has the time/inclination/patience to do all that stuff.
The remaining 99.9999% of the populace will just pay the $1,000/mo for compute access or be forced onto the street and OD on fent
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thats because you don't do local AI. this is about taking AI away from ordinary people and only making it available through cloud. you need lots of RAM to run AI locally. they want to take that away from us because its too dangerous to have rando 4chan anons making offensive slop. so this is whats really going on.
obviously youre gonna be fine with 16GB if youre not doing local AI.
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>>107649974
what do you mean people dont have patience
webdev and gaming is awfully optimized, ever since the micron message you hear gaming studios promising optimization as a counter measure to this nonsense
the way you use a computer hasn't changed that much since windows 95, the way you use the internet has changed though, before you had to jump through a lot of hoops and there was some prerequired technical knowhow
the core of the argument has always been technical literacy aka the solution to every problem we ever had since the DOS days

in 2003 if you had a 10 year old PC good luck with doing anything useful given the software of the time, the cutoff year was somewhere in 2014-15

if you bought a 10 year old laptop you are good from every technical standpoint there is, the only thing that would force you to buy new is if the government required every CPU manufacturer to add some TPM type chip for just basically connect to the internet or if we had some material breakthrough and a new generation of moors law popped up
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>>107648301
Oy vey. Very good op I think.

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Never give up, never surrender, and always go for the win
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>>107641973
IT'S OVER
AND
IT BEGINS
AND
the irrelevant cunty p will continue to "bait"
AND
the irrelevant jeet will continue to sock-poppet itself with fake-hate
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I gave up using HDR on mpv, it isn't accurate or crisp as MPC-HC + MadVR.
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>>107620982
>>107621135
>A NEET otaku turns into s middle schooler girl
Lmao
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>>107644090
>4tran
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Merry Christmas folx

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Share comfy software that can't be found anywhere else but on Windows, software whose minimal dependencies allow compatibility with versions of Windows as old as XP.

I'll start with Miranda NG.
>multi-protocol instant messaging client
>IRC, Jabber, Telegram, Disc*rd etcetera
>multi-document interface
>extensible through plugins
>free as in freedom
>compatible with XP
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>>107650224
https://www.astrolog.org/labyrnth/daedalus.htm
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>>107649818
>hard
What's so hard typing a bunch of letters?
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>>107638543
Why would I care if balena etcher is bloated garbage? I only need to use it once a month or so. Rufus is better. But typically I only need the features that Rufus has for dealing with Windows installs. When I need to do those typically I can get access to a machine that has Windows running on it already.
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VirtuaGirl
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>>107639633
I remember this little shit crashing 24/7


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