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Excluding playing video games on them WTF where computers in the 70s and 80s used for?

Like serious question.

The capacity of them was laughable the 8-inch Floppy disk is ~242KB

>Diskettes formatted for this system stored 242,944 bytes

1 Wikipedia article page saved as ASCII text takes up 25KB at the lowest.

So 10 pages would fill that one up of pure ASCII text.

You can not store books on them.

>Much programs

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>>107743047
>fax/modem cards
>Dude simply buy a fax machine
NO.
>Umm dude here is a fax machine in PCIE format buy that
NO.
Why is there no program to generate these audio sounds in software?
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>>107743160
Oh! I thought you wanted to actually send a fax over an actual telephone line.

Now I don't know of any such program. But I bet there must be something - like the firmware from an actual fax machine.

Or you could read the spec and implement it yourself: https://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-T.6-198811-I/en
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Not part of the argument, but are there any oldfags old enough to remember the switch from slide rules to calculators and personal computers?
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>>107731379
can someone tell me how to filter these retarded zoomer threads?
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>>107743315
>Oh!
Thanks for being the best anon in this thread.

>Now I don't know of any such program.
And this is strange.
I mean did no one try this?
There are 100s of QR code generating programs however not one for fax?

And 1000s of retarded shit like GPL drivers for hardware that only now has 11 surviving specimens.

However no one did this?
WE have insane powerful computers however they can not generate FAX signals?

>actually send a fax over an actual telephone line.

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Zoomers do not know what a screen saver is
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>>107742976
Many monitors take a not insignificant amount of time to turn back on. This means the blank screen saver still has a place. Some people like their monitor to quickly go blank when left unattended, say in 1 minute. But it would be annoying to have the monitor turn off at 1 minute, monitor turn-off would be usually set to 5-10 minutes.
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>>107740150
I'm a moomer and I didn't know you could do that.
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>>107736919
This is literally my screen saver, you fool.
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>>107737575
The oldest zoomer is 30 right now and the ones in their 20s are hitting the wall, yet they will never be real adults. They are forever cursed to be the ignorant child with stunted development generation.
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they do if they have OLEDs

/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Cute Locust Edition

>News
Z․ai releases GLM-4.7 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.7
Google releases Gemini 3 Flash https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3-flash
OpenAI releases GPT-5.2 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2
Deepseek releases V3.2 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.2
Anthropic releases Opus 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-5
Google releases Gemini 3 Pro https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3

Additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends

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>>107743255
>inb4 they fed Claude with GLM synthetic data and that's where 4.5 learned this tarded save tactic
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>>107743249
Some proxies have been going strong for the better part of a year
Try to coddle your proxyhost, if you think he’s a reliable provider maybe he deserves a treat
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>>107743207
Thanks Anon
>>107743250
Eh I'd like to have a desktop Assistant Tamagotchi LLM. Doesn't need to be a constant entertainer.
>>107743257
I'll try when the available ones don't satisfy me.
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>>107743322
I actually talk to most of my hosts routinely, only feels right. Ironically what made MM disappearing so sad
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>>107741999
That was something I had to fight a lot while working on it.
I'm not sure about long term stability but SOTA models seem to do okay. Smaller models like Flash or Haiku will duck up immediately.
Reality might blur, but you may nudge it in a direction by saying you're not doing anything and you're watching them move onto something else.
Optional: Maybe add an exception for experiencing dreams.

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Nobody's going to learn the bash terminal unless they are some basement dweller who lives on their PC. Even people who use their PC for work aren't going to fuck around with stuff like that. The terminal went away in the early 1990s on Windows and Mac because it's trash and linux hasn't evolved with them.
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>>107735080
>what is cmd.exe
>what is Terminal.app
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>>107735080
desktop environments exist
also,
>implying your average normal fag knows how to use Windows
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>>107735283
use python instead like a sane person
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>>107735080
you don't need to know the terminal if you use linux mint
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>>107735080
>The terminal went away in the early 1990s on Windows and Mac
Both of those have terminals, you obese mangirl.

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are KOSS headphones any good? or are they influencer slop?
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>>107734191
I bought Koss Porta Pro headphones in the 1990s. My brother "borrowed" them and never returned them so I bought another pair in the late 2000s.

The cable on the new ones I bought was extremely thin and flimsy and broke after just a few months.

I took the pair my brother permanently loaned back when I was visiting him some years after that. Those have a much thicker more solid cable and they still work.

I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT RECOMMEND BUYING ANYTHING PRODUCED BY KOSS IN THIS CENTURY.
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>>107734191
>KOSS
From my experiences they tend to be cold and sterile. KOSS makes headphones for recording studios, not for listening to music. (Of course YMMV)
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>>107740526
Nothing wrong with calling IEMs earbuds

t. IEM user
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just buy nightjar singularity iems
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>>107743305
Driver size?

Three 24" monitors or one huge monitor for programming?
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I've been programming for over a decade, have used triple monitors in the past, and now I just use my 13" laptop monitor
copy paper and a pen is great for working out algorithms by hand when working through tougher problems
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>>107743092
Don't laugh at it. It's mental illness. Some people can't deal with odd numbers. Number of characters in this post is odd.
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>>107743145
Meant even! Fuck!
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>>107743019
Why not get an ultrawide screen and divide it into 3 virtual screens?
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>>107741019
is there a /g/ approved monitor guide?

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Happy new year!
Beige and Blacks on Alu FOREVER edition

Previous: >>107681160

>Keyboard recommendation template:
https://pastebin.com/n220xk9V

>Find vendors
https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list // Up-to-date list of reputable vendors with brief descriptions
https://keycaplendar.firebaseapp.com // Tracker for current and upcoming keycap group buys

>This keyboard stuff is so expensive!
https://aliexpress.com (or Taobao if you know how)


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>>107738887
>6kg
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Blaeks Onalou
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Hell yeah MX Blacks on Alu SO FUCKING GOOD
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>>107739174
Geonsissies FTW
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Gateron is goated

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How do you stay motivated when you're trying to teach yourself something new? I'm envious of programmers but the fact trying to build my skills in the arena would involve taking myself to that with only myself and my own intellect to overcome the specific roadblocks I could encounter and that sort of thing feels unmotivating to me. You can go to a forum and ask a question, maybe, but people just flowing in and out and dropping an answer might not hit upon your issue or feel timely. I feel like I really need either someone to learn alongside with or someone actually willing to take the time to walk through what I'm fucking up on to feel like I can actually commit to personal growth.
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>>107742390
>only 5% of the human population read and write in English
You should have been white, looks like you lost LMAO.
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>>107740093
Programming is boring
Coders likes BIG WORDS for hide the boredom.

"trying to build my skills in the arena would involve taking myself to that with only myself and my own intellect to overcome the specific roadblocks I could encounter"

Holy shit anon, you amazing skill is "Writing with the keyboard". I prefer crimping Ethernet plugs
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>>107742464
Well...TBQH you're not wrong. I find typing cathartic and wish I had more reasons to do it.

That's why I have so many keyboards (and not just high-end mechanicals but literally any kind that I think might make for a fresh typing experience).
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>>107742006
Nigger please go outside and talk to women
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>>107742946
No. I will die instantly from the sunlight

>If you're interested in the specifics as to what Windows collects from your machine, you can actually download Diagnostic Data Viewer from Windows Store, which provides full insight into telemetry data, unencrypted.

>Anyone who has actually looked into diagnostic data & telemetry will tell you that it's absolutely nothing to be worried about. The ones who say Windows is spying on everything you do spread unwarranted FUD that has been proven incorrect again and again.
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>>107742174
Yes, you can simply not use Microsoft's cocreator.
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Don't care still using Linux
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>>107742218
or any other product from a company who does that
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>>107742009
>They spy on the images you generate using their AI yes
Not sure about this, might just be the prompts and not the images. Either way I don't care, this is a total tangent.
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>>107729858
on the same hardware Windows 10 file explorer worked perfectly fine

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one is a tool, while the other is bloat
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>>107741669
>they took from you
More like they tried but messed up. Video by a former MS dev:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpRZ8BQiiMo
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You weren't alive back then.
Vista did not spark joy at all. People complained all the time about it.
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>>107741877
It was fine if you had 4-8GB of memory but most people didn't.
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>>107741669
I liked the sidebar idea
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>>107741565
found an zoomer here

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why can't we have nice things? are we supposed to just abandon the best app made for this site?
how do you make the captcha appear?
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>>107743209
You didn't see them posting in all the previous threads yet? Nobody posted a fully working script for retards yet. Maybe they're keeping them to themselves, like [spoiler]me[/spoiler]. No, don't bother me about the spoiler tags, I know they don't work on /g/.
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>>107719654
I will continue to keep using Blue until somehow posting through the webview stops working
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>>107719654
Switched over to the beta program and why did they hide the bar at the bottom?
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anyone have luck with gold clover
it crashes everytime i try to run it
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>>107743256
The webview doesn't work for me. It always makes me wait. I just open it in a browser, there's no difference.

Closed source software is not the same as patent protected software. Releasing a offline usable closed source binary under no license is so much more ethical then a proprietary (patent) license that threatens people with prison time and civil liability for sharing/modifying software or using it the wrong way. Also the addition of spyware sometimes and cloud tethering. Which I also oppose.

But it seems TMK that Stallman may conflate offline usable closed source and patented software as if they are both as bad. but maybe some people know more about him then I do, Does he recognize the difference and what does /g/ think of the difference? I'm saying I strongly agree with Stallman big tech patent hoarding and patent trolling is harmful, and and I view the GPL3 like a voluntary contract programmers agree to participate in and hope to abolish all patents one day, but I'm not following his logic that seems to hint at closed source software being illegal as an ultimate goal. Patents should be illegal but not software with no public code.
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Freedom.
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>>107736639
You are retarded and don't understand the point of software freedom
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>>107741960
>get the jab,goyim! and remember about your mask!
>her body her choice! Now stay back so I can abort your children, goyim!
>Pedophilia is good actually, me raping your kids won't hurt them, trust me, goyim!
>Now repeat with me, I AM FREE!Right, goyim?
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>>107737754
my brain had a malfunction I conflated patented software and copyright software with heavy restrictions.

I think all copyright should be replaced with non disclosure and public agreements. NDA for closed source among a team of developers. And the GPL3 and BSD reimagined as a public contract that activates whenever someone modifies GPL code.

Honestly if it was just copyright laws preventing sharing of software I wouldn't care. What pisses me off is how ideas are protected by the state. In example Adobe held a 20 year patent on adjustment layers, or Namco patenting the loading screen mini games. Or how some licenses say you can't legally modify the software even in your home or only they can fix the hardware. Similar to right to repair laws. That is what I am against.

It just seems that Stallman views it as a human right to modify other people's software, that is where I disagree. Its a voluntary agreement of people participating in GPL3 software.

>>107737922
Fact check them. Grok and DeepSeek do not understand but they do have very good fact checking abilities.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GROKvsMAGA/

The most likely hallucinations are when Grok gives something that sounds like an answer but is a complete fabrication. DeepSeek doesn't do that much at all but Grok does from time to time. Other then source checking the best thing to do is have the same conversation with different AIs several times and look for consistency and tell them to cite the sources.
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>>107742247
Just like people on Mastodon fall short of understanding freedom. The concept of positive vs negative liberty.

Dude on Mastodon rails against software patents, big tech cloud tethering everyone's software, and supports local offline software use. I strongly agree with him there. Then I read more of his post and he goes on about how much he loves the EU and thinks that Government should pay all FOSS devs and how a massive welfare state is salvation. That's the point I diverge on. Its positive vs negative liberty and I have taken negative liberty to its logical conclusions. Where as the people on Mastodon and Stallman are mixing both in inconsistent ways.

Stallman wants total digital sovereignty as do I
but he also wants to keep the strong centralized government to provide welfare state creature comforts.I don't think you can have a Government that represents the people and as I cited in a previous post the EU is violating civil liberties while leftist on Mastodon celebrate them . Stallman expects both total privacy where Government doesn't know who you are and a massive welfare state to care for people. That is a huge logical contradiction he has. You can't have both and you must pick one, freedom or dependency!

https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/107698501/#107700202
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/107561690/#107564545

>>107737922
When taking negative liberty to its extreme conclusion it would be better to live in a world without GPL3 licensing if it meant that most copyright and all patents were abolished since the early 90s onward. But we'd have to do that from the start, as like I said patents already gave capitalist pigs a huge advantage that can't be undone. The timeline we're in is fucked

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What is Steam's secret? Why is Steam so succesfull?
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>>107741631
>you're too old to have heard of the thing i'm claiming to have been around longer than the thing you've heard of!
wut
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>>107742127
You don’t have evidence either other than “trust Valve bro” which we seen was a very bad thing.
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>>107742919
NTA, but the evidence is in the fact that the EU hasn't fined Valve yet for review manipulation.
The EU has strict legal requirements to publishing consumer reviews of products, which require the platform not manipulate the representation of said reviews in any way, such as using a cut-off point that purposely omits poor ratings.

Steam is a known entity to the EU, and has been fined before for other breaches of EU legislation.
Yet not for this.
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>>107731752
steam was already established before consoles killed themselves off, the other publishers tried to compete but steam already had a majority of IP's willing to participate, so they won by default

>>107731806
hasnt stopped them from being incredibly stupid, like betting the company on a lawsuit for the rights to the half life name, the decade plus of incompetent managing strategy from 2007+, the flop of hla, complete abandonment of artifact. Gabes hardly infallible, in fact he's a fucking moron, but you're probably not getting anyone better at the helm when he kicks the bucket
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>>107743111
Ok let me report them and see if Valve is indeed lying about reviews.

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>fixes your desktop
>will never break
>just werks

Come home.
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>>107739402
yeah but can you BLUR your tiling windows with it? I don't think so
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Why the recent xmonad attention? It seems to be replacing dwm as the meme x11 wm.
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>>107742095
Already been a meme but last time I was paying attention like 15 years ago I thought herbstluft wm was replacing xmonad and bspwm as the meme wm has there really been nothing new in a decade and a half?
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>>107739402
I wanted to try xmonad but dwm is already so tiny and fast and does what I need that I don't really feel like it's worth going through the hassle of getting it in Void. Is there any particular advantage to other wms I might be missing out on?
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>>107739402
>x11
im good

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>>107568585
"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say."
--Edward Snowden

>Cyberpunk
The FAQ: https://sizeof.cat/post/cyberpunk-faq/
What is /cyb/erpunk?: https://pastebin.com/pmn9vzWZ
How do I into /cyb/erpunk?: https://pastebin.com/5tpNFQds
Huge list of cyberpunk media: https://sizeof.cat/post/cyberpunk/
The cyberdeck: https://pastebin.com/7fE4BVBg
Cyberlife: https://jinteki.industries/files/cyberlife.7z
Bibliothek: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/4m5hd2065hde8/Bibliothek

>Privacy
Tools: https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/

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>>107739586
I certified your moms pussy.
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>>107740309
certified rank
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Been checking some C++, its such an elegant and well developed language. I'm surprised more people don't use it
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>>107742173
You could combine your interst in C++ with /sec/ by auditing SerenityOS.
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>>107742173
sarcasm doesn't convey well over the internet


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