/biz/ herre.How is AI not another dot-com bubble?What are its practical applications, aside from porn generation and helping high schoolers with their homework? How does it make money?
>>107740275Microsoft is strong-arming companies into including copilot in their new volume licenses for Windows and Office products. There is an article somewhere where a sales rep just left the bargaining table when the customer refused to consider Copilot, because that’s the only thing they get bonuses for at the moment.Nobody is paying for this shit personally, it’s paid for by corporate, who justify it because it gets retard investor bucks flowing in, not because it had any proven productivity benefits. Being bean-counting retards, they then force it onto workers to try and maximise its value. It’s capacity to improve productivity is poorly proven, and some studies indicate it reduces productivity. Furthermore, it’s likely that the 300€ plans are still losing Microsoft money. OpenAIs 200USD/month plan makes a loss. With regards to data centres, Microsoft and Google might be able to tank the huge hit, much like giants like IBM and Cisco could tank the Dotcom bubble, but just because some people don’t die in a plague doesn’t make it a good thing. The exposure to risk that many investment firms (and by extension 401ks, banks, e.t.c.) are exposed to means the insane debt being taken out on vague deliverables will blow up catastrophically if it doesn’t work, and ripple through the rest of the economy, taking out businesses only tangentially related. The economy will stagnate and people will become poorer. This is not a good outcome.
>>107740616>like the space raceman but at least that was cool and some of the materials they invented during that became useful for everyday life. So far with AI, it just means there's now more slop in my life.
>>107740939What, significantly worse off? Advertised to every minute of the day, harvested for data, systematically priced out of owning any significant assets, left with an aging population that will not have enough young people to care for them? The average person is worse off now than they were in the 2000s. Furthermore, more specifically, the Dotcom bubble blew up numerous companies, fucked a lot of finances and stagnated the economy until 2006ish, when it was promptly blown up again for different retarded reasons. The web is not useless, but the valuations at the time were absolutely retarded, completely unattached from actual useful businesses. It was the insane financing, valuations and investment decisions that made the Dotcom bubble, not the tech itself being flawed or useless. People didn’t want to miss out on the next big thing, and then promptly blew up their money investing into shit they didn’t understand, but was being hyped by investors who knew they could be the lesser fool in a shit investment and cash out.
>>107737777>How is AI not another dot-com bubble?It probably is>What are its practical applications, aside from porn generation and helping high schoolers with their homework?Most useful application I can see is that it can be a better search engine, but the hallucination problem is intrinsic to this tech and also crippling to this use case, so it's all kinda meh in practice if you try to use it for real work where correctness and truth actually matter (let alone quality).>How does it make money?Right now it doesn't seem to make money at all. The tech is extremely expensive due to extreme hardware demand and like I said the actual productivity boost you get from it is dubious at best, at least in professions where truth and correctness matter. I think this is a serious flaw and it will continue to prevent these services from making any money.It might have some real applications in domains where correctness and truth do not matter. Unfortunately these are mostly the artistic pursuits where fiction reigns, though even there you need internal consistency which is kind of the same thing. Still if you AI generate some artwork and it's good, then it's good and there's no objective correctness to strive for.I could also see this sort of tech as something potentially cool if it can be applied properly to video games. I don't mean fully generating slop games or some shit, but including it as a mechanic. Imagine a game where the NPCs and the world can fully react to everything you do, or where you can have more free-form conversations with NPCs and so on. Might be cool, though of course even in this use case whatever "AI" is used has to be reined in so it doesn't do something retarded.
>>107740245Productivity should be measured in quality output, but lazy and incompetent workers don't want it to be measured like that. AI isn't even the real problem. The problem are the managers and any worker with managerial duties. Often times, the higher up in the ladder they go, the less coding they do, and the more incompetent they become. They start increasingly believing in their own delusional fantasies, which leads to disastrous results in the future.
>/g/ makes an 18th albumTheme: Outer Space MusicTitle: [Accepting suggestions]Deadline: 14th of January>/g/ makes a 19th albumTheme: [Accepting suggestions]>Song submission rules/guidelinesUpload the file somewhere, preferably in a lossless format, and post the link here. If you want to update your track, make a new post.Include the song title in the post, and make it clear that your song is a submission for the album.Optionally you may include cover art for your track, but please confirm that the image in your post is the cover art or it won't be included. You may not use your real artist name.Songs that contain anything against YouTube's policies won't be uploaded on YT, but will still be added to the album.By default, tracks will be normalised to -14 LUFS (integrated loudness) in the release. You may specify a lower loudness for your track.Use of AI is banned. This includes AI generated stems, samples, and effects. "AI" includes all neural network-based models and not hard-coded automation/procedural generation. You are allowed to ask an LLM about music-related questions, but asking it to give you musical ideas (eg. generating a chord progression) is already a no-no.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>107739416this is it I promise
Modular synthesis
>>107742290But like, how many different good sounds are there, really?
>>107742377oh, I would say near zero, it's just something to fuck off with and play around on
>>107738930>Trance Vol.2 (JE8086 [the free JP-80X0 emulator] ONLY Edition!)Vote for Trance Vol.2 (JE8086 [the free JP-80X0 emulator] ONLY Edition!) for the next album
HP-UX hit EOL 12/31/25, no future patches. Not many commercial Unixes left.https://www.osnews.com/story/144094/hp-ux-hits-end-of-life-today-and-im-sad/
Who cares about your legacy garbage commercial OS and hardware. Buy an IBM POWER 10 server with AIX if you really want Unix and if you can't afford it you obviously don't need it retards
>>107744922Usecase?
>>107737165>>107741727Itanium was basically HP's fault.
>>107738722>a somewhat significant event/milestone in the tech industryIt isn't. The shit I took this morning had more of an impact on the tech world than HP-UX hitting EOL.
>>107745059And thank God it has sunk for good.
What kind of RAM fans do you guys use for DDR5 6000mhz?I'm satisfied with this one, it keeps my ram running cool as a cucumber.
>>107744420>>107744423sorry guys this is my fault, I was googling water-blocks for ram earlier and it definitely woke up the algos
>>107744798>liquid cooling your ramunfathomably based
I just pee on it and call it water cooling
>>107745017What is R. Kelly doing here?
>>107745017Isn't that going to make it worse? Pee is body temp, my RAM runs cooler than that.
you already know that for years now, big tech has been paying shills to shit-talk Linux and other FOSS projectsand with all the AI progress, most of the shilling is not done manually any more, it is mostly automated botsso why not fight fire with fire?why don't we set up something that scans internet for relevant discussions and automatically makes posts that promote Linux and digital freedom?
>>107743652>he said on 4chinslollmaoall right faggot, I'll bitewhat better ways are there countering the systemic globohomo FAGMAN propaganda?
>>107744336getting them luigi'd is the only real way I know
>>107741400Linux is not free softwareHasnt been since 1996
>>107744336>what better ways are there countering the systemic globohomo FAGMAN propaganda?
Not true, I don't even think FOSS is on their radar. Outside of servers and infrastructure no one in the professional world even thinks about FOSS. In fact based on Youtube comments I seen those sever sysadmin people refer to the Linux software community as hobbyist. so please don't spread disinfo
>here’s your trillion dollar LLM bro
>>107741538lmao llms are literally r*ddit-retarded and fundamentally brokenbut I'm sure a few more trillion dollars will fix this amirite
>>107741529>>107741560>>107741590I'm amazed how faggy the replies are compared to even lighter local models.
>>107743948>In fact it is ASI for most questionsOnly if you only ever ask midwit-tier questions.
>>107744453Gotta use all that ram somehow
>>107741529Did they really suck up all that DRAM for this?
This + Termux will be absolute kino.It just needs a tab button
>>107743462>ads keys>runs slop
>>107743462>front camerano thanks
>>107744093>my screenplays
>>107744124>Xitter spacing
>>107743939Dat hinge was awesome
>>107655260Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™>Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook)Why ThinkPad?>Used machines are plentiful and cheap>Excellent keyboards, tactile feel and quiet + the TrackPoint>Great durability: magnesium roll cage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop>Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain>Excellent Linux & *BSD supportThinkWiki - General info about ThinkPads/specshttps://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWikiComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>107742252>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinkPad_X_seriesThey don't make 12" laptop anymore
>>107740850>webmjust btw, periods didn't hurt some 60 to 50 years ago, there's this chemical, atrazine it was I think, that changes the embryo and causes an abnormality when exposed to it in-vivo which makes periods hurt.
>>107743062This generation are just faggots.My mom never complained from her periods, my dad did.Blaming your bitchy behavior on your hormones and expecting your partner to deal with you like a child is borderline personality disorder.
>>107732468any insight? Is there anything approximate to this to look forward to in 2026 or being announced at CES?I don't have a degree in ThinkPad models to know what the most top-of-the-line thinkpad is.
I have 5 Thinkpad t420, and ALL of them are missing the SSD rubber rail things. I was looking at replacements and for 4 of them I'd be paying like 50 bucks. Reading this thread I'm starting to think there's no use in investing in these at all. Anyone wanna chip in and give me their opinions on this?
What's the equivalent of a win32 GUI on Linux?
>>107743191i have not head of anyone who writes postscript
>>107744841>20 years ago30 years ago in many cases.Many software made for Windows 95 still run fine in Windows 11 25H2.Meanwhile I had problems trying to make 8 year old software run on Linux>binaries don't work, too outdated>packages don't install, too outdated>try to build from source>fall into dependency hell>give up
>>107743191win32(wine)
>>107744706To be fair, that password was for network logon. It was not intended to keep the local machine secure.
>>107744706you could simply ctrl+alt+del, enter Administrator in the login prompt and a blank password and press enter on Windows XP.
LeCun fucking hates Zuck's gut huh?
>>107743505They should stop masturbating about stateless mathematical models (because both symbolic AI and neural networks are about logic and math not computing or programming) and start focusing on stateful programs that are actually agentic (in the original sense of the word not in the llm corrupted marketing sense) by having internal state, internal goals and a real model of the world (LeCun is right about this part), all of this not through mathematical models but through programming. If our current languages and databases are not enough then we should make progress there, for example by researching graph databases and new languages that make expressing complex and dynamic rules about the real world possible.But corpos only want to sell their datacenter services, to them its a feature how inefficient LLMs are, and most researchers are not programmers they are stuck in their bubble of academia writing their papers in their ivory towers.
>>107743634This guy's proposed alternative to neural nets is better programming languages and databases.Absolutely fucking kek.
>>107743670The connectionist idea that the brain is an input/output stateless machine is ridiculous and an insult to life.Yes, the road to intelligence goes through stateful programming not through stateless mathematical models.And yes, computer science has barely advanced at all in the last 40 years, but that's because all the resources are used on bullshit corporate or academic shit that is not even meant to advance it.
>>107743698Apparently, actually most advanced (human like AI) Neurosama was coded in python and it didn't learn from LLMs, but from twitch chats only. Basically mogging all "AIs" while being made from scratch. It's not the same kind of "AI" but looks more like intelligence than the other ones.
>>107743634Neuromorphic models work a lot better. They use local state and local mutation only, which lets them do tricks like learning things in real time. So far, they've mostly been used to study how human senses work and integrate with the brain, rather than shooting for intelligence (because understanding sensing is more immediately useful).They're an absolute bitch to implement in normal hardware though, due to the comms bandwidth required, and GPUs are no use at all for them (it's just a different architectural model).
but why didn't he call it "Freedom Software" instead?
because the acronym "FS" was already used for "filesystem"
>>107741028post the entire video faggotthat part when he eats smegma from his foot
>>107742156cool it with the antisemitism
Freedom.
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>>107743951>hodgepodge messyou should actually try to learn it.>>107744295>well qubes is just a linux distro with some virtual machines preconfigured>you can probably replicate the same system on bsdbaited nobody award
I know the whole nothing to hide argument but unironically why THE FUCK do you need qubes if you're not a criminalYou're probably under active surveillance just by downloading the iso
>>107744911He's a schizo pedophileThe same one who has a melty every month about reiserFS or some other snca
>>107744911cp
>>107744926that's mikeeusa
DDR2 is still worth it only if it can YouTube 1080p.
>>107741460>aren’t modern SSDs faster than most DDR2if you ignore the 1000x higher latency... sure.>Is it possible to just bypass RAMno.
>>107739307And yet computers that played Youtube videos fine back then started to choke on the same resolutions as soon as the new non-Flash implementation came out, and still do.
>>107735998ddr4 is good enough for me
that image would make a neat 4chan banner
>>107741460>modern SSDs faster than most DDR2Maybe in pSLC mode. Internally they then convert to TLC/QLC, which can be super slow, 300MB/s.
Qualcomm's most advanced ARM chips now rival the performance of the Apple M5. Why hasn't Qualcomm opted to open source the drivers, enabling the creation of robust ARM Linux laptops? Do they have deal with Microsoft?
>>107741844You think poos can afford Apple products, are you retarded?
>single-coreAre we still using MacOS Tiger or Windows XP?Single core hasn't mattered in two decades, even web browsers spawn gazillion threads who work better on multi threaded cpus, most shit you do on apple machines is multimedia creation wich benefit from multi threading.
>>107739299>It’s not up to Qualcomm. You have to ask this mentally ill trannysoftbank owns arm now. so ask the japs.
>>107741844>binary "translators".turning a man into a woman? already used extensively in linux, don't see what the problem is.
>>107744894>Single core hasn't mattered in two decadesDepends what you're doing. Ideally, you have good performance both for single-threaded and multithreaded code, and you're efficient enough that you don't get thermally throttled (with the help of whatever your cooling solution is).From a software perspective, best is if you can do your thing quickly and let the computer go back to sleep, but not all apps can possibly work that way.
>turns your 6 year old phone into a brand new one>battery still as good as new
>>107744944Nah, at best that's like a 20% boost IF and ONLY IF the battery hasn't exhausted it's usual 200-300 charge/recharge cycles. Also increased power consumption = it kills battery lifespan faster lol. It might be worth it for a memorable flagship model but pretty much all entry and mid-range phones are e-waste after like 5 years desu.
