Previous thread >>106276391Trannybros go to >>106312727 to post your charts and EQ profiles
I'll ask here since I never got an answer, is a E10K good enough for AKG K702/K712? And if so which of these headphones do I buy?
>>106325192>>106321728>>106325705>>106325192>Jcally JM12Hell no man, that thing is rated at only 27mW@32ohm (K702s are 64ohm, so you get 13.5mW instead of 27mW). On top of that manufacturers like that lie through their teeth about power output - expect 25%+ less power.>E10KNot really, the DAC part of it has it's issues and while the AMP is capable enough for most of the headphones, both "classic" Beyers and AKGs just need more than it can do. Mids will sound fine and loud but bass will be rolled off/silent and treble will be wonky/bad.Also it is out of production, if you are paying 80$ for it then DON'T BUY that shit.What is your budget for DAC/AMP? Do you consider second hand stuff?If you need to go super cheap then try to hunt for bugmens fx audio DAC X6 MKII, amazon used to have it for 65$ but I see it's out of stock now for brand new units, and only MUCH worse first gen is in stock. Avoid the first gen - it's quite bad and a waste of money.DAC part of it is somewhat noisy - but still less noisy than fiio E10K.And it has a fuckton of power available at the AMP side.https://www.amazon.com/FX-Audio-Bluetooth-Digital-Headphone-Pre-Amplifier/dp/B08HQFNX1Vhttps://www.audiophonics.fr/en/dac-with-volume/fx-audio-dac-x6-mkii-dac-headphone-amplifier-bluetooth-50-aptx-es9018-qcc3008-24bit-192khz-silver-p-14549.htmlChang bugmen still have it, albeit with a bump up in price https://aliexpress.com/item/1005006152848138.htmlAnother option would be to see if you can get for 100$ or less a second hand Fiio K5 Pro/Pro ESS. At that price it would be good, definitely better than fx audio. At 150$ or more it's not worth it.
>>106325724Well I already have the E10K I've had it for several years. But yeah maybe it's time to just upgrade it as well.
>>106325815Everything on DAC/AMP market is becoming ridiculously expensive tho.Back in the days I could easily find several AMPs/DAC+AMPs powerful enough for those headphones in 40$-60$ price range.Now it seems all the manufacturers phased out good cheap shit and force people into their upsells.Like, from "respectable" brands stuff with enough power from this peculiar headphone seems to sit at 200-250$, which is a lot.I run my pair off the xonar STX connected to external amp (cause it's internal amp is a beast power wise, but it sounds unbearably dry on the vocals and instruments due to AMP chip it uses, RCA line out doesn't suffer from it).I've even got a pocket portable amp that is powerful enough to drive them fully at high gain - Fiio A5, that was like 120$. Well guess what, not only you cannot get it anymore from Fiio, there is also no superseding replacement from it, neither from Fiio nor any other brand.This stuff simply doesn't exist anymore. I don't know why the fuck DAC/AMP market became to be like this.If you won't be able to get yourself something to replace E10K then don't bother with K702, on not powerful enough sources its treble becomes a complete ear grating/ear raping experience, and there will be no bass nor warmth to the sound.
>>106325970>from itfor it*
tell me about the yuin g1a & g2a, which one is better and how much better are they vs the ksc75? (which are 30€ here while the yuins are ~100 and ~50 respectively)already have an extra pair or two of yaxi pads and headbands in case the yuins need them and i don't mind overpaying even if they aren't twice/thrice as good for the price
>>106325970Would this work?https://a.co/d/34Pqc3A
>>106325499Are bone conduction headphones any good? I need to listen out background alarms and calls etc.
>>106326046>FosiHell nah avoid this brand: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/fosi-audio-k5-pro-gaming-dac-amp-review.40047/Also them naming their stuff to lommok like products from other brands should tell you all you need to know heh
>>106326106>lommokmimmick* ayy lamoTyping with bulky stuff infront of keyboard leads to funni results kek
>>106325970>>106326106>>106326129What headphones would you recommend instead of the K702 to replace a FT1?
cannot find yaxi comfort pads for k712's instock anywhere, will they randomly come into stock on their website at some point or are they discontinued? New replacement akg pads are £42 which I can find, but I've basically only seen yaxi pads shilled here and in other forums. My current pads are 5 years old and a little tired. bongistan citizen btw
>>106326141Open backs? Try out Senn HD560S (basically HD660S driver in HD5xx chassis) - they measure super flat (other open backs typically have bass sloping downwards from 100hz). They are 160ohm BUT like 104dB/mW so they should work fine on E10K.You might want to EQ them since FT1s are V shaped - boosted at bass, boosted at high treble.
>>106326129
>>106326269FT1 for comparison.If you want to EQ match them then on wangblows you can user something like EqualizerAPO with graphic EQ to work out 0-200hz range and 15khz area on HD560s to be closer to what you are used to on FT1s.
>>106326339>>106326269I've actually a pair of HD560S, they're my go to open backs actually. But you posting about them made me retry them and they sound great, which makes me wonder if I should replace the Fiio headphones or just see if I can get the amazon giftcard from the protection plan and put it toward something else.
>>106326385Having a pair of some closed backs is reserve can be handy I guess.It depends if you can get them replaced and how did the fail, ie. they failed internally in really short period of time I'd not trust that model personally. Hows their resell value compared to giftcards value? Replacement -> resale could be an option.
>>106326433The yoke on the right side of the headphone stopped working after less than 6 months. It won't hold any kind of adjustment at all. And I don't really want to get another pair of these if they can't last 6 months. You raise a good point about reselling them though.
>>106326433>>106326385Btw too bad you don't have anything capable of running K702s, it is very easy to get them to sound V shaped, and their V shape would be better than that of FT1s - say bass boost from 20hz to 100hz - without muddiness in 150-300hz range.Reversible bass flex port unlock mod doable on all K700 line models really makes them punch hard, and there's no need for any software EQ after it.>>106326458Someone wrote something in previous thread about DIY repair using a screw, have you seen it?
>>106326568I don't think I saw anything about a mod for the FT1.
>>106326589One anon typed this shit. Too bad no further elaboration was given.
>>106326611Yeah it's not the hinge that broke on mine. It's the part the actually slides up and down. I'm not even sure how it happened considering I usually adjust headphones once and then leave them be.
>>106326628Gotta be the chinesium manufacturing tolerances. Kinda shameful for Fiio since they make themselves to be a serious audio enthusiast brand.
>>106326642Yeah, I'm actually now wondering if my equipment should run Senny HD6XXs. They're on slight sale right now and if I can get the money from the protection plan maybe I could swing that. Or if I should put the money towards a better source and just use the HD560S
What would you guys recommend for someone looking to step up from the MDR-7506? Preferably open backs, don't require an amp, that will be used for PC and handheld gaming, as well as watching movies.
>>106326764If you can get past the HD600/650's infamous veil then sure.The bass on them isn't as good as on HD560S mind you but they have more warmth in mids.What I'm unsure is how much hit will their bass take on E10K - they are about the same as HD560S dB/mW wise - 103+, but have over a double input impedance - 350+ ohm.Still they work okay since dB/mW sensitivity is quite high, but there could be heavy bass roll off.
>>106326837>but there could be heavy bass roll off.Case in point - RTings had big drop down from 100hz on their rig.
>>106326837Yeah I could get those or I could get a new DAC/AMP. Thinking if I go with a new DAC/AMP, i might get a Fiio K11.
>>106326870At what price? I have seen bad opinions about noise floor of K11.If budget allows, look at Topping DX3 Pro+ (that plus in the name is important, non-plus is severely underpowered), ifi zen DAC 2/DAC 3 (first gen had almost no power on headphone out, they fixed it in 2 and 3), or ifi zen CAN (standalone amp, high power out).
>>106326960>Topping DX3 Pro+That'd probably do the job actually. I might go for that.
>>106327020DX3 Pro+ got actually really good fame to it's name alreadyhttps://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/topping-dx3-pro-review-dac-headphone-amp.27148/There is one big annoyance tho - some of the controls are not present on the physical buttons, instead you will have to use the remote that it comes with... and one of those things is a low/high gain switch.Low gain should be called like IEM super low gain on this particular box. It's so low output power you wont be able to enjoy any full size headphones until you switch it to high gain.Also it's possible to mute output via pilot or something, as dumb as it sounds watch out of it. There's one kiketube goy who repairs industrial electronics, laptops and all kind of other pcbs, people were sending him random audio equipment as a challenge and he has received DX3 Pro+ with no headphone sound output.He spent 3 days desoldering and resoldering internal components, measuring them with oscilloscope, without fucking realizing (neither the goy who sent it to him) that it the output was muted via pilot... top fucking kek
>>106327157>watch out of itfor it* damnit kek
>>106327157>>106327020
I need bass. I'm talking clean bass that goes so deep it can be used to communicate with whales.
>>106327157>It's so low output power you wont be able to enjoy any full size headphones until you switch it to high gain.What the heck do you mean by this? At low gain even -50db is already ear rape with headphones that have >100db/mw sensitivity.
>>106327477PlanarsBig planarsOr big biodynas
>>106327861Previous summer I've told some goy with HD650 and onboard audio to try out DX3 Pro+ and I've heard back month later that he was initially unhappy with the sound and about to return it until he found on his own how to enable high gain, wewAnon ITT is gonna use it with HD560S and perhaps with HD6XX.
High gain is for people who buy underpowered audiofool amps.
adx5000 are fucking craazy
Let me guess, you need more.$139 vali 3 https://www.schiit.com/b-stocks$191 TA-66 https://www.amazon.com/LEAUDIO-XDUOO-Headphone-Amplifier-High-Performance/dp/B0CXDLDVC5
>>106328969Honestly if I wanna run TUUUUUUBES I'll just grab some old Soviet stock off eBay and hack something together myself, that's their main charm.
>>106326269>basically HD660S driver in HD5xx chassisHas seen ever confirmed this? I have both and looking at the drivers through the grill they absolutely do not look the same. Maybe the same diaphragm material, but it looks like the 560s has a cheaper paper damping.
>>106329336doesn't matter if it's the same or not, the hd560s is measurably the same, or arguably better
>>106329350Do the physical properties of the headphones not matter as well?
>>106329391very few. you have stuff like how you perceive with the build and comfort of the headphones that will have an effect on how you hear things, but if we're talking about the acoustics of a headphone, FR (and distortion in some cases) is the most important factor. the physical properties of a headphone will influence FR.
>>106329618can't seem to form sentences todayanyways if you want to learn more just check the hpg mega folder or the one iemg has
>>106327477HD650's
>>106328969it's not scary, just schiit incendiary
>>106327477the only headphones that fits this description is SR-007 with KGSSHV
would a Fiio K11 be worth it if it's under $150?
>>106327477Just buy these headphones!https://www.ebay.com/itm/225665997001
>>106326069no
I'm looking for neutral-sounding earphones that use USB-C. What are my options?
Would HD6XX be worth getting if I have a HD 560s?
>>106329160Good luck building a Bottlehead Crack for the price of a TA-66.
>>106327477unironically harmonicdyne eris
What open back headphone should I get if I listen to a lot of metal?
>>106332499660s2
>>106332518What exactly makes them good for this genre? I'm using HD560S right now and it sounds pretty alright to me.
Are OAE1 headphones worth the current sale price? I'm trying to decide between them, DT 990, or HD6XX.
>>106332914it's weird, definitely something to demo first
>>106332946Yeah, that's the general vibe I get from them. Unfortunately I live in a corn field so it's not likely I'll find a place to do so.
looking for a braided wire for the akg k371. So a 3pin mini-xlr female, 3.5mm trs male. The default cable is really fucking bad with the microphonics
>>106332960this is probably the most polarizing release in the last decade from what i've seen talking to people at cjfor some it just clicks and works, for others it's unlistenable
>>106332984If you don't find any then try K700 series cable, it's flimsy but it doesn't suffer from microphonics - EK 300 is the part number.The only con is that its 3m/10ft long.
>>106325499Hello /hpg/ I need some all round decent headphones for around £100 i'm in bogistan I mostly will use them for vidya so i'm guessing open backs will be a good start, anyone got any recommendations?
>>106333938within that budget:amaZOG discount on sennheiser HD599SE that happens every few months, pic relatedSame site claims amaZOG UK has HD560S (which is superior) at 99 pounds but it doesn't display for me https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08HNFV61M?psc=1Fidelio X2HRHifiman he400 se stealth v2 if you want planar magnetics instead of dynamic membrane headphones. Tho be aware that Hifiman has opinion of being shoddy in build quality/quality control.You can also consider closed backs like AKG K361, that is like 80 pounds or something.Also if you want to go even cheap, consider headphones from those brands - Superlux, ISK, JVC. They have some of the cheapest good open and closed backs.
>>106334065>even cheapcheaper*fugg
https://a.co/d/eL6PBSEAre these any good? Would Metal sound good on them?
>>106334113M1060 are not for everyone, check this https://forum.hifiguides.com/t/are-the-monoprice-1060s-not-a-worthy-upgrade-from-the-hifiman-he-4xx/2556No idea how metal would sound on them. In general for all-kind metal and rock you'd want something that has warmth in lower mids so that the guitars will sound nice. I know that most metalheads are happy with senns HD600 and their derivatives - they have rather a rolled off sub bass, but the mids have just enough warmth to make it nice. Try any of them out.
>>106334065So it would be a no-brainer to get the HD560s instead of the HD599SE if they're cheaper and better?
>>106334244I'll go with the HD6XX then. They were one of the candidates I was heavily considering anyway.
>>106334279Yeah. Usually HD560S cost more than HD599/SE(the SE is just color variant, no other changes)They sound different, HD599 is something between warm in lower mids and analytical in highs, HD560s leans towards "pure neutral".I personally find 599 to be muddy in upper bass/low mids, while their bass and sub bass is poor in its sound quality.There was some fag on kiketube that used 599 as daily drivers and compared them with 560S after a month of use but I can't find it anymore.
>>106325499Just turned on the Stax S3 for the first time and holy shit, coming from a life with 30 dollar plastic toys this is great. Feels like the music is originating from inside my head and yet I can distinguish individual instruments as well as their position and relative distanceThe bass also "hits pretty hard" which I thought wasn't as much of a thing for on-earsWish I had the lingo to express myself in a more sophisticated manner kek I also don't feel the cushions on my skin at all which I hope stays that way over the course of the day
Anyone here tried the ZMF Bokeh?
What's the current year's decent midrange (~200-250$) over-ear headset? I have a really bad luck with cables for everything and I break them very easily, so I'd like something with jack and bluetooth and low dependence on firmware. for music first and foremost (though I'm no audiophile), and occasional gayming capacity would be neat but not a priority. Good mic is not a priority either, I can always get separate one.I'm looking at Sony's WH-1000XM4B but opinions online vary wildly on it.
>>106335766Are you willing to give up Bluetooth? Wireless gaming is incredibly limited in acceptable options
>>106335855Yeah, I was tempted to try bluetooth because I constantly manage to bend cables in all the wrong ways and recabling is usually too expensive to make sense but it's not really a must.
>>106335855>>106335766If wireless is a must, get thesehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jHrwxGrwMMU
>>106332591>What exactly makes them good for this genre? I'm using HD560S right now and it sounds pretty alright to me.I had 5xx series before now 660S2. The overall quality of sound, speed of driver, sense of separation and tuning of these headphones making them fantastic for anything that has guitars/vocalists. They also have calm but extended treble so they won't pierce your eardrums in more intense metal slaps and also scales also very well with different sources (DACs, tubes)
How should I be plugging my headphones to my PC?The MB's audio port or should I use one of those USB-C dongles?
>>106335888For a wired, close back at that price range I would recommend the Fiio FT1. Then you can get the Meze boom mic if you need it for gaming, and you would still be within budget. Replacement cables are cheap, as it's standard dual 3.5mm, but the boom mic is quite expensive (but premium, better all around than any gaming headset).
>>106335914USB-C extender and the Apple Dongle. Better than any motherboard audio, and only $10
>>106335929I have this GraveAudio DA06 I got in an Ali bundle a couple of years ago that I never used.Is it any good?
>>106335939That works too
>>106335888>recabling is usually too expensiveYou can get a decent cable for like 20 bucks. Unless you have Sennheiser and need their proprietary connectors. Then it's ogre because those cables are usually more expensive. Never buy the headphone manufacturer's cables because you'll just overspend.>>106335929This. Unless you use low sensitivity headphones that need more power there's no need for more than that dongle.>>106335898>speed of driverIt's the same driver type. it's not "faster">scales also very well with different sources660S2 is much easier to drive than HD600. "Scales well" is a meme by the DAC jew. A $1000 amp won't turn your headphones into an HE-1. All HD6X0 HPs have a more pronounced midrange compared to HD560s, that's true. But HD600 is still the best out of all all headphones in that line. HD660S2 is overpriced. An Aeon costs about as much and is superior.>>106331054It's decent but mine used to freeze once in a while and I had to replug it to fix that. Maybe just a bad unit. I returned it. >>106335011Enjoy your planars, anon. I had a similar experience going from gayming headphones to a SHP9500 many years ago.
>>106336057Anon asking about the USB-C dongle here.I have a K371 and I'm actually waiting on my SHP9500 to get here, they should be fine, yeah?Also crab best girl.
>>106336341>they should be fine, yeah?Yes. Both k371 and shp9500 should get to over 110dB SPL out of the apple dongle, which is far louder than anyone should be listening anyway. Keep in mind I'm talking about the US version of the apple dongle since the EU version outputs only half the power due to EU laws. But even then it should still most likely be sufficient.>Also crab best girlBased
Thanks everyone for input. I was swayed by >>106335917 Partly because I've read up and apparently sound quality is really good for that price bracket. but also because I'm a techlet and that walnut looks really fucking nice. Bit worried about weak noise cancellation and I hope that the one they ship me is from the upgraded build quality batch, but we'll see.
>>106338551Hopefully yours doesn't break in less than 6 months randomly like mine did.
why are koss headphones + yaxi pads shilled as comfort king? aren’t on-ears inherently uncomfortable?
>>106340051They weight fuck all and clamp fuck all. Add some puffy foam pads and they're barely even there.
>>106329962Why does this gif kinda make my pee pee feel good
>>106340051what anon saidthey're the best you can do without going the ear dildos route. I have kph40 with yaxi pads myself, which I chose because of the metal headband, but I bet the other two that use the same driver are even comfier. they don't really offend sound-wise next to big planars while also giving your neck a break
Metal anon here. One more question before I setlle on the HD6XX as my next headphone. Would the DT 990 be worth considering? And also is there any difference between the 80 and 150 Ohm versions?
>>106341480>150Meant 250.
why do so many wireless 'phones sound like poopoo straight from the anus
>>106341480>metalWhy are you letting 4chan and R*ddit deprive you of sub-bass and clarity? The 6XX series are grainy and have no soundstage. It's just a meme propagated by updoot bots and Dankpods on Youtube. Leave it in the 90s. If you actually go to a metal concert, you'd know it doesn't sound like a veiled mess with no lows or highs.
>>106342032What open back headphone would you recommend for this genre then?
>>106341580Tuned for the average normalfag so as much bass as possible. Wired headphones nowadays are mostly used by people who care about audio so tuning is better.>>106341480I don't fully agree with >>106342032 but it's true HD6XX have no subbass and you can't add a whole lot because of bass distortion. I don't know your budget but a planar would work better for metal. LCD-2C or Aeon RT/X are both solid options. If that's too expensive then Verum One or HE400SE. Chinkfiman has dogshit QC but that model in particular sounds pretty good and isn't too expensive.
My last two pairs of headphones literally got cancer and disintegrated on my desk so i want something that will last me a long time. Would something like MDR-7506 for 105€ be good?
>>106342090I was actually considering either the Sundara or HE-5XX on the planar side. I just don't know if my e10k can make them shine.
>>106342118I don't know about the HE-5XX since I've never tried it. I think it's based on their Deva so it's probably not great. Sundara is one of their best models since it's fully metal so won't fall apart as easily. E10K outputs 200 mW at 32 Ohms and Sundara needs over 300 to reach 94 dB SPL so it's true they might be underpowered running off of that.>>106342107More or less. But if long lasting is your number one priority something from Sennheiser might be a better idea. Unless you mean it's the earpads that disintegrated. Then maybe don't get Sennheiser.
>>106341480Been listening to a lot of boomer metal on HE-R9 lately, I can 100% recommend it for that
>>106342195Yeah no Sennheisers for me. One of the pairs that got cancer was HD599 and not the earpads but the headband
Huh, I thought my HE400SE were broke, but I just tested them and they still sound brand new. And they are good with Metal music, maybe even better than my HD560S headphones.
>>106342310That's just pleather anything for you, I guarantee the headband and pads on those Sonys are gonna suffer the same flaky fate(Faux) suede and velour won't flake, so replace the headband cushion with one for a HDD560S or HD558Be aware fabric/velour will soak up human juices more readily than pleather so wash the pads every so often
>>106342090I see, the plethora of wireless headphones I tried are nauseatingly bass-heavy
>>106342410Stax SR-009 pleather appears to be immune to flaking
>>106342498aaahw shit brb buying 12 sr-009's rn
It's kind of nuts that these Hifiman headphones alao some how outlived the Fiio. I guess I'm just really disappointed in the FT1.
>>106342562anon, you don't have the buy the actual headphones. the pads are priced at a very affordable $200 a pairI've never heard the actual SR-009 by the way - just went crazy one day and bought the pads (I don't regret it)
brainlets with bad listening skills will ragequit a 'phone before they realize its magic trick that makes it sound real and then accuse others of "brain burn in" top kek
>>106342592will they fit my HD25's?
>>106342792your HD25 is simply too good, it doesn't need them
>>106342895Would a HE-4XX even be worth buying if I already own a HE-400SE?
>>106343596I don't know
>>106342792nice look on ears
Does cable resistance matter on 'phones?
>>106346508No. I use some of the cheapest junk I could find for my 300 dollar headphones, it has no impact. The guys walking around with fat ass speaker wire are mentally ill.
>>106342580>>106342327It's hit-or-miss build quality wise with hifiman (and seemingly fiio too). The factory QC is poor and manufacturing tolerances are so over the place that you can receive either a pair that's gonna have it elements break within months of normal use, or a one that will be decent and last years. It's basically a lottery there.
>>106346508Unless said cables have immovable object tier of resistance, no and even then if you get enough volume from your amp/playback device with said cables it doesn't matter.
>>106346508As a rule of thumb, anything under 1/10th of the driver's impedance is gonna have zero effect.Once you start deliberately sticking fat resistors in there, you can get stuff like the HD600's midbass boost on high output impedance amps, depending on the headphones' impedance curve.
>>106336057Its same type of driver but different design, it is faster than 660S and 600/650 while also having even lower distortion and have less "veil" compared to 600 if you are sensitive to that.>overpricedEverything on this board is overpriced if its not a free gift.>A $1000 amp won't turn your headphones into an HE-1No one is expecting that, but some folks like that fuzzy extra warmth of tubes and some people like super clinical DAC's and these headphones scales very well with these sources where on some headphones these don't affect their sound at all.>An Aeon costs about as much and is superior.Closed back planar with 404 not found dynamics and no punch with messed up tonality is the same price as 600 family series, Yeah man. Whatever you say.>WTF is this captcha jew tranny shit
I just bought the Topping L30II because I heard there is no noise floor and I'm sick of that shit in all my other amps. I don't know too much about how it all works, but would is be possible to hook up a tube amp that I already own and use the L30II as a preamp or something (or other way round?), so I could potentially have the benefits of no noise + the tube amp distortion (if it's even real, I will test it). Is this how it works, or am I way off?
>>106348338>Its same type of driver but different design, it is faster than 660S and 600/650 while also having even lower distortionThe only difference between the 660S and S2 driver is a different voice coil, the driver isn't faster. And the THD of both is almost exactly the same. Sennheiser states as much on their website and measurements show it too. Picrel top is S2 and bottom is regular 660S. THD is only slightly lower on the S2. >Everything on this board is overpriced if its not a free giftIf someone can spend >$1500 on an OLED screen then they can and should at least get a competent headphone or speakers. $500 really isn't that excessive for something that will last 10 years or more.>Closed back planar with 404 not found dynamics and no punch with messed up tonality is the same price as 600 family seriesNigger where did I say to buy the closed back? Get the open back version. It has better treble compliance anyway. And the no dynamics meme is a thing because of retards running these off of a dongle or something when they need a desktop amplifier. These are among the hardest to drive planars. If you don't like the tonality just EQ. FR is fixable with software, THD isn't.>>WTF is this captcha jew tranny shitIt's gay as fuck, I know.>>106348385Sure, you can use it as a preamp. It has a switch on the front for that purpose.>so I could potentially have the benefits of no noise + the tube amp distortionYou'll get the tube amp distortion. If the tube amp is noisy then you won't get the benefit of no noise. If you want the increased bass you usually get from tube amps maybe use an impedance adapter instead.
>>106348670>You'll get the tube amp distortion. If the tube amp is noisy then you won't get the benefit of no noise. If you want the increased bass you usually get from tube amps maybe use an impedance adapter instead.I guess what I mean is can I keep the volume of the tube amp at a point where it's not noisy and use the L30II to adjust the volume instead? Or if there's imperceptible noise with the tube amp, increasing the volume in any way will also amplify the noise which was previously imperceptible, to be perceptible?
>>106349073>can I keep the volume of the tube amp at a point where it's not noisy and use the L30II to adjust the volume insteadYes.if there's imperceptible noise with the tube amp, increasing the volume in any way will also amplify the noise which was previously imperceptible, to be perceptible?Possibly. But if you set the volume on the tube amp at the maximum amount you can without any noticeable noise then you can just use the Topping to adjust the volume. As long as the tube amp isn't noisy enough to create any hiss or anything like that at a volume you listen to usually there shouldn't be any issues. Depends on the impedance of the headphones you're plugging into it as well. As long as it's not something extremely low impedance you should be fine.
Thinking of buying a barely used smyth realiser (16 channel version) with DTS and dolby. Around $1800 USD. Thoughts anons?Also, is there a way to pirate the PRIRs from that 3dsoundshop website? Or just simply get them from another Smyth owner? It's crazy they are charging you that much for what is essentially just a software room EQ. Shit should be like $100 for all of it and even that seems overpriced.If I do end up getting some and if there is no DRM/traceability, I will of course share them on >>>/t/ or something. These audiophile boomers are insane.
>>106342051>>106342032I'm seconding this question. What headphone would you recommend for metal at arounda $300 usd budget?
>>106349873NTA but Verum One or MM-100. If you want an open back for metal it's better to get a planar magentic headphone since those usually don't have the bass roll off typical to open back dd headphones. There's also HE400SE you could EQ for good subbass but chinkfiman's QC is dogshit. Maybe FiiO FT1 Pro but that model in particular has design flaws and their headphones have a worse track record than their DACs when it comes to QC.
>>106350124My concern with a planar is I live in a very dusty area.
>>106350134Pretty much all planars have a filter protecting the driver so dust isn't a concern. It's electrostats that are more prone to dust damage but even those usually have dust filters as well. Koss electrostats notwithstanding. If you want dd then a closed back like HD620S would be fine. Just don't boost the bass too much or not at all, ideally.
>>106348385tube amp distortion is a chartfag meme
>>106349873These are by far my favorites for metal and such, but at that budget you're not getting a similar open-back big biodyna from the factory so you'd have to DIY something.In my case, Denon AH-D7200 drivers in an Audio Technica ATH-AD900X shell.
Redpill on STAX for newbies: STAX is an old Jap company with outdated tech that was considered good back in the 1970s but sounds like ass by today's standards, so they went nearly bankrupt.They were purchased for less than $900K by a Chinese company Edifier (whose primary market is cheap Chinese speakers and headphones) who decided to market STAX to the audiophool "more expensive is better" demographic who buys those crappy $3000 vinyl players. These Stax victims shill heavily on HeadFi and here on /hpg/. Chinks also leveraged STAX's prior Japanese identity to market it to weebs, using Youtubers like Zeos.>In December 2011, Chinese loudspeaker manufacturer Edifier announced the acquisition of 100% equity in StaxOratory has measured the highest end STAX, the SR-009S.www.dropbox.com/s/61srehjyaltd7w0/Stax%20SR-009S.pdf?dl=0www.dropbox.com/s/dm0m6u3s3b4zqzl/Sennheiser%20HD600.pdf?dl=0It's worse than the HD600. HD600 scored 92 and SR-009S scored 76.Recently Rtings rated STAX across various dimension, it's worse in terms of sound than mid-priced offerings from Hifiman and Audeze, and only got a 7.7 rating.https://i.imgur.com/W7hz3rh.pngIn a separate study:>The very highest end STAX ($4000 SR-009) was rated lower in blind tests than a $200 K701http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=17441Download the PDF of the study at: https://mega.nz/#F!3MFm1DrD!4GlU_vNtEeF148kZcQ05wATo add insult to overpriced injury, they have shitty plastic build quality that you would expect on cheap chinkshit headphones:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf38cKJ6NBcOratory (respected sound engineer) on the build:i.imgur.com/Dru4gzZ.pngEven the best Stax headphones sound objectively worse than mid-fi. This is why they don't demo them in store, they rely on the internet to create a sense of mystique around STAX and shill it as the endgame because it's expensive, Asian, rare and obscure. In reality it's Made in China snake oil for the audiophool.
>>106350468>outdated anon using outdated linkshttps://mega.nz/folder/cchSBaBQ#WwAguZeGclZkxzvwVNSryQyours truly, your fatheriemg
>>106350165Verum One do seem really interesting. Thanks for the recc.
Does balanced vs unbalanced really matter?
>>106350877Balanced gives double the power. That's basically the only notable difference.
>>106350877Balanced gives you 4x the power, but at the cost of double the noise, output impedance, and part cost, as well as increased distortion if it's actually a fully differential source.Balanced interconnects reduce noise/hum pickup for long cable runs.https://benchmarkmedia.com/blogs/application_notes/audio-myth-balanced-headphone-outputs-are-better
>>106350468How many newbies would buy stax, THOUGH
How come meme headphones get cool collabs but not something actually good like sennheiser?
>>106351922Are their drop headphones not collabs?
I got the best headphone in the universe.
>>106351922mod your headphones yourselfcar people don't wait for special collabs to plaster their waifus either
>>106351922>cool colablollmao evenNormal m50x costs 150$This "collab" that is just a bunch of teal and pink paint slapped onto it + some garbage mic slapped onto it is... drumrolll280$For that price you can make 10 times better custom mikushit m50x yourself
>>106331096I wanted a pair of these ever since I saw them in the head-fi basshead thread like a decade ago but never bit. Those are cannons
>>106350468>>106351898https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfWwCfN8TO0 Stax made it into anime
>>106352925Wow its like all of k/j-pophttps://youtu.be/sH4lfzYofmE
>>106352925he's literally me...
Anyone have experience with the FiiO K11 R2R? I'm considering it but $200 for a resistor ladder DAC makes me think there's a catch.
Which way, fellow indian programmers?
Anyone have experience with optical to aux converters? Was looking to get this for my tv: amzn to/4oQ6t06Should this sound good enough or is there another I should be looking at? Trying not to go over $15.
>>106353757Depends. Mod fodder or out-of-the-box only?I can tell you the mk3's stock pads are hot garbage and should be replaced with something more comfortable right off the bat.
>>106351922I'd pay double for my headphones not to look like that.
>>106354087how hard is modding?
>>106328969ah yes, the shit XD stack.
If you could start all over again with the knowledge you have today, what headphone and dac/amp would you pick up/save up for?
>>106354554I would've forgotten about her and went for the other girl.
How would Edition XS work for metal? They're on a slight sale and I could probably go up to them in the price dept.
>>106325499You know they sell shrink wrap for this sort of deal, don't you?
https://youtu.be/dolSo_W0QK0
>>106327477you know what to do, anon
>>106356192My Anandas are incredible for metal (and everything else), maybe I'm just really used to the neutral signature tho. I've heard that the XS has slightly more bass, so it might be even better.
My mini XLR socket has somehow fallen out of my DT1990 pros. What is going on with these pins? I wasn't using the headphones at the time, I was at work and came home to find the socket lying on the floor with the cable still attached.
>>106356827Nothing? It looks like the pins are hollow and they put the end of the cable down them before soldering, and it's stress fractured off above that point. Just resolder the wires to it?
>>106354477Modding Tx0RPs isn't hard, opening them up is a matter of pulling the pads off and taking out 4 little Phillips screws. You just gotta be careful not to pull on the wires that connect to the driver too hard.If you can cut shapes out of acoustic foam, you can mod a Tx0RP.
>>106331098Why?
>>106358063I do wonder why people do this kind of retard shit, if it improved the sound, they'd do it at the factory.
I found Kinera Celest Wyvern to be the most comfortable IEM's I've ever worn, can you recommend any other good ones in a similar shell?
>>106358602Welp, wrong thread
>>106358595>if it improved the sound, they'd do it at the factoryshould we tell him?
>>106358595Mods measurably affect frequency response.For the 50th anniversary special edition, Fostex used T60RP pads and covered the inside of the cups with acoustic foam and surprise surprise, it measures almost like a T60RP and not like a regular T50RP Mk3 at all.
Anyone have any opinions on the Aune AR5000?
>>106359505One of the best measuring dd headphones. Treble is somewhat deficient. Overall pretty good.
>>106359657I'm pretty treble sensitive so I like it a bit toned down. Seems good.
>>106359505I have the SR7000, and they're fantastic. Aune is hyper slept on. Comfort is top notch (I have HD700s, considered to be top tier comfy - these are better imo). Build quality is the best I've ever seen, no creaks or flimsy parts that feel like they're about to break, yet they're still light. Sound is perfect. They're not gonna wow you at first, but they're the type of headphones you could listen to for 1,000 years straight in absolute bliss. Think HD600-series (which I like) but better. But I'm talking SR7000, which is closed. AR5000 are similar from what I've heard, but slightly worse in every way (but half the price).
who the fuck revived this general
fuck off and die bassniggersif you're not a nigger buy adx5000 don't buy stax because never heard them
>>106360036>hasn't heard about 15khz since 2005Based 50 year old male. More treble, MOAR TREBLE.
>>106360074couple notches down please for my agealso hair grow on my years and they are touching the drivers and make the drivers clip, a solution for it is a foam cover; doesn't change the frequency.
>>106359505Sold mine, incredibly cheap sounding treble, like the driver is crackling. I know it's not actually crackling because pure bass tones don't have this problem and a low pass filter removes it, couldn't EQ it properly through.
arya stealth magnet 400 euros from a friend y/n ?
>>106362254>chinkfiman over 200 bucksNo. Just get HE400SE if you want a cheap planar. Lower bass distortion and less treble rape. And never buy used chinkfiman.
>>106362393yeah but are they any good vs other headphones like the rp50, which are +/- 2x the price?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkEseNXzBLw
>>106363687>yeah but are they any good vs other headphones like the rp50, which are +/- 2x the price?HE400SE? Yes. Arya? No, not really. Arya sounds extremely sharp due to the treble spike and has resonances. T50RP are decent headphones but there are cans with far better engineered drivers nowadays with lower distortion and better tuning. They're decent if you want to mod them, I suppose. >>106363998>only these headphones that physically cannot produce good subbass are accurateWhat did he mean by this?
>>106363998confirmation that most audio """engineers""" are retards
>>106363998our guy dropping truth nukes
The Audeze Maxwell is wireless and has worse design than my steelcase nova 1https://steelseries.com/gaming-headsets/arctis-nova-1retractable never lost michardware mic mutehardware volume^ must-havesis there a wired well respected gaymer phone?
Chartniggas will one day realize HE-R9 anon was right and apologize.
>>106352753You can try these bass cannons if you want to! They have an objectively great price/performance ratio!https://www.amazon.com/JVC-Kenwood-around-headphones-HA-XM20X/dp/B00DSGC2SQ
>>106363998>closed back>they're all crap>scrolls past the hd600ahahhahhahahhahah
>>106364030>HE400SE$109>fostex t50rp mk3$169
>>106364036he's right you need some v6's as a studio comparison. but he's a retard.remember tho the retarded lead the retarded retardedly. so if you want to join club retard, be retarded.
I want something wireless with really good battery life and open-back with decent audio, does such a thing exist?
only one thing is inevitable: retarded youtubers. a few have cheated death, none avoid retarded youtubers.
>>106364213Yes, that's exactly what I mean. HE400SE are competent, well measuring planars that are also decently cheap for that driver technology. Better than most of Hifiman's models, too. But it's still chinkfiman meaning the QC is shit. Better than the fostex as far as audio goes but the QC is so shit it's hard to recommend them.
>>106364148>well respected gaymer phoneNo such thing exists. PC38X isn't terrible, though.>>106364231>does such a thing exist?>wireless open-backYes>with decent audio and battery lifeNo>>106364160Chinkfimanfags will one day listen to good headphones and apologize.
>>106364289>No such thing exists.frustrating the volume wheel is highly necesaary. FUNDAMENTALso is the mute and integral mic (not removable!!! (ie lost))Why is everyone so bad at design and don't say because apple sucks and capitalism favors retarded appleism
I thought my headphones were fucked up, turns out there is one track that has random stabbing 16khz peaks
>>106364336tiplook at audio reviews by top reviewers of worldclass hifiwrite down the tracksput em into spotify or tidal playlists
>>106364345(a lot of songs you probably won't like, but you still need to listen to them, to judge audio)
>>106364289could I use one of those small bluetooth dacs and strap it to a pair of cans?What's the battery like on those?
>>106364345>>106364352Audio reviewers don't know shit about the audio production. I could less of a fuck what they think is good, I know what is good and what to listen for.
>>106364379>could I use one of those small bluetooth dacs and strap it to a pair of cans?Yeah. Pretty sure Hifiman also made an adapter you plug into the headphones that works similarly and is smaller.>What's the battery like on those?Usually not that great. Depends on the volume you're listening at but it won't last more than ~10 hours. The smaller the DAC, usually the smaller the battery.
>>106364393no.i'd block u for ur retardation
NIGGA BASS(WITH YAXI COMFORT PADS)
Has anyone gotten their hands on the new stax 007S? Literally the only new headphone that has piqued my interest since I got my L700 + 006t
who needs headphones? buy a set of highend bookshelf speakers. pair with a basic bitch receiver. instantly soar over all headphones.
headphones should have built-in AR-15.
>>106349769bump
>>106364981>path in youre path
>>106360036>buy adx5000They are good if seated right But they are also so similar to HD600s I probly would not be able to tell them apart blindly, so they don't make sense >>106364255My bro keeps buying HE400s for the bass, he's on his 5th pair probably The membrane simply disintegrates and starts farting after a few months of use assuming its not already DOA>>106364030He shills for good mids as they are the hardest part to get right in the mix, and bass/treble performance is not that important and can be done in 5 minutes>>106366250True, just get nearfield monitors and a sub + do room correction for your listening position
>>106363998There are no good headphones.
>>106366565Apart from DT770 yes we know.
>>106367599Bruh
BreathtakingCourageousThink Different
>>106368248End. Game.
>>106368289>wireless >no LDAC/LHDC supportIt's shit
>>106366480>But they are also so similar to HD600s I probly would not be able to tell them apart blindly, so they don't make senseyour whole post doesn't make sense. adx5000 has a functionable soundstage and very actually extremely transparent and with more low-end and top-end and relaxed mids that don't hurt your feelings. that's why they have a functionable laidback soundstage. hd600 are obsolete
i will be honest with you this timei am deaf on my right ear and i have focal clear adx5000 and my heavily modified ath-es10s(detachable cables mod and sound tuning)what do
I miss headphones that didn't have holes in them. All the recommended headphones that you just HAVE to have all come with holes. Having headphones without holes was so normal back in the day.
>>106370695So was headphones sounding like a gravel pit. BACK IN MY DAY our amps has 30 ohms output resistance and we liked it!
What are recommendations for low cost wireless audio headsets for gaming and/or daily use?>been using some logitech for a couple years>the shitty plastic is falling apart>cables disintegrating>adhesives on the ear pads failing>rubber parts shredding>chafes my ear
>>106370695>DCA Aeon Closed>HD620S>Aune AR7000Here, some good closed back headphones. Open backs are recommended more often because they're more comfortable and are usually tuned better. Stax already made headphones "with holes" sixty years ago, it's not a new invention.>>106370981>low cost wireless audio headsetsNot a single one of the cheap ones is good. There are decent wireless headphones but for gaming you need some that use 2.4 instead of Bluetooth so there's no delay. Only Audeze Maxwell has that and sounds decent but it's not low cost. >>106366480>My bro keeps buying HE400s for the bass, he's on his 5th pair probably >The membrane simply disintegrates and starts farting after a few months of use assuming its not already DOASounds like chinkfiman, alright. My Edition XS did the same thing after a year. Shame since their oldest models are holding up pretty good. I'm guessing at some point they realized they don't need to spend money on QC since the average audiophool needs to consoom constantly so the low lifespan isn't a problem for those people.
>>106371230Praying my HE400SE lasts, couldn't resist the low price. Bought them for like 45 bucks.
gotta say with the adx5000 you get more precise position
>>106340312you guy for headphones? wanna fuck them now? wtf???! /hpg/????
hd620s are really good as a closed back and i think you want hd620s to be uneven in the frequency range spectrum compared to azurys. never heard azuryshow they are compared to azurys if someone ever heard them together live?
I'm tired of iem and would like a good pair of headphones. What would you recommend in terms of closed planar headphones ? I prefer something with a subtle V shape, and I have 500 bucks max. Thanks frens
>>106372081DCA Aeon Closed. Either RT directly from DCA or the X from Drop. Keep in mind these need a fair amount of power so you'd need a capable desktop amplifier as well if you don't already have one.
>>106371230>DCA Aeon Closed>HD620S>Aune AR7000All of these are hundreds of dollars. Hole-less headphones used to be for the everyman. They weren’t just toys for rich people. Now your only options are Bluetooth headphones, which ARE hole-less, or cheese graters which cost the same or more (hundreds of dollars). The $50 everyday headphone with a plug is just dead. No one makes them besides those shitty Sony ones for $10. The only options on a working man’s salary are Apple EarPods or Chinese equivalents, both of which are not headphones.
>>106372217>DCA Aeon ClosedThanks frens I'll look into it. I have a jds atom 2 for desktop use and a hiby r3 pro II when outside, so It will be enough methink
>>106371230>There are decent wireless headphones but for gaming you need some that use 2.4 instead of Bluetooth so there's no delayeverything is bluetooth anymore except for the dropshipped bullshit from china and logitech (as shitty as the dropshipped crap)
>>106372610>everything is bluetooth anymoreAll Audeze wireless gaming headsets like Maxwell or Penrose have a 2.4 GHz option via a dongle.>>106372309Yeah, the atom will power these fine. Not sure about the hiby. Via balanced it should be fine as long as you don't listen at 90+ dB.>>106372279A Koss KSC75 is like 20 bucks. If you want a true closed back then an ATH M20x is about 60 bucks. Or just get some chinkshit IEM for 20 bucks. Better than the EarPods at the very least.
>>106372750I usually listen to music very quietly so I hope it will work on the hiby ahah
Floor faggit has finally died
Ananda Vs Edition XS vs 660s2 all for about the same price? Ananda Nanos are ~100 more.I have a dac/amp already. Or is there something else in that ~300 range?
>>106376301Aune AR5000, HD6XX or HE400SE. Stealth Ananda and Edition XS both have resonances and annoying treble spikes, not to mention distortion. Ananda Nano is a fucking mess, both FR wise and distortion wise so don't bother. HE400SE measures better and doesn't have treble rape. I wouldn't recommend chinkfiman, though, since their QC is shit. HD6XX has similar performance and better tuning than 660S2 and is cheaper. AR5000 is like a better version of HD6X0 cans but not everyone will like the subdued treble. FT1 Pro is another option if you want a planar but it has some glaring design flaws.
>>106376775nta but is the HE400SE worth it if you've never tried planars and want to give them a go? And is the stealth version significantly better than the non-stealth?
>>106377038>nta but is the HE400SE worth it if you've never tried planars and want to give them a go?It's a good headphone and has all the usual advantages of a planar magnetic so as long as you don't mind playing chinkfiman's QC lottery, then sure. >And is the stealth version significantly better than the non-stealth?There's almost no difference. Stealth has less bass but is better tuned for the rest of the frequency response. But the differences are minor.
>>106377080What about those mods like the 3D printed grills and all that nonsense?
>>106377121They change the frequency response. Some of those increase the treble. If someone likes bright headphones it can be a good thing. But you can achieve the same thing with EQ.
>>106376775i ordered the HE400SE you better not have scammed me
Audio test mp3 https://dn721906.ca.archive.org/0/items/ca064_ks/1_Part_1_64kb.mp3
>>106377649They are good headphones. You might get scammed by chinkfiman's awful QC but it doesn't matter what headphones you buy from them, all of them are built like shit.
>>106377656>mp3
Hey guys, I'm looking for new headphones in the 200€ range to keep an eye on for when there are sales (the idea being to get them on sales for 150€ or cheaper depending on how big the sales is)It's mostly for watching videos, playing games, listening to music. I don't need wireless. I don't need a microphone either I don't have time to play comp games anymore. It would be a bonus if it comes from a brand where you can get buy official ear pads from them when they inevitably start peeling or wearing off.I just had 2 very bad experiences with sennheiser, the latest being with the game zero (which I'm looking to replace now).I don't have a DAC and would rather hear as many details as possible without being drowned by the bass. Of course I'd like something rather reliable which won't break despite me not abusing any of my peripherals.
>>106376775No 6XX since I'm europoor unfortunately.Would the HE400SE be a upgrade to my old ass HD599? Or is it just throwing money at nothing.
>>106377871>No 6XX since I'm europoor unfortunately.I am, too. Even with the import taxes and shipping it's still the cheapest HD6X0 headphone. If not that then HD600 is the best of that entire lineup anyway so you could get that instead.>Would the HE400SE be a upgrade to my old ass HD599? Or is it just throwing money at nothing.Would definitely be capable of better bass with a low shelf filter and has better tuning out of the box. Build quality is far worse. Depends how much you like bass. It is capable of delivering good subbass which is something most Sennheiser stuff is incapable of, unfortunately.>>106377747FiiO FT1, ATH M50x. Maybe FT1 Pro if you want planars. HE400SE is out since>I'd like something rather reliableI have no idea how you broke your Sennheiser cans since my HD600 are over 10 years old and have outlived many of my other headphones, even if they're not getting much use anymore. I'll say that game zero is built like shit, though. Creaky piece of shit. From what I remember, it's branded as Sennheiser but built elsewhere compared to their regular headphones.
>>106378014The game zero are indeed built like shit and the earpads started completely peeling after a year. They still work but when trying to find official replacements (because off brand ones often change how stuff sounds) I couldn't find any because they just decided to discontinue the brand and sold it off. A friend of mine got the same model and his completely broke, the plastic is shit.Anyway thanks a lot for the recommendations I'll check rtings to read about them a little and add them to the list of sales tracking.Any other recommendations are welcome.
>>106325724>>106325970What a load of bullshit, I'm running dt 770 80 ohm and even Hifiman Ananda off E10K just fine>inb4 you're missing outI tried them on my friend's Fiio K5 DAC, same sound same shit
>>106377656i love harsh noise experimental genre too
>>106377747The other guy who replied to you is a chartfag. He believes he can hear things by seeing a sine wave. What you really want is the HE-R9 for $53https://store.hifiman.com/index.php/he-r9-refurbished.htmlYou can safely ignore the 'gatari avatarfag's posts.
adx5000 slams and have a very transient sound who the fuck said they clip or distort in the treble and bass region? lolthey're good with everything and bakenigger is annoying
>>106379089isn't using avatars against the rules?
>>106379101maybe i forgot and i dont' care about avatarfagging i just really hate bakeshit and his smartassness lole
>>106379089>who the fuck said they clip or distort in the treble and bass region? lolMeasurements.>>106379101I don't attach kinogatari images to ALL of my posts so it doesn't count.>>106379123>just really hate bakeshitSo you have shit taste in media and audio equipment. Unfortunate.
>>106379746>Measurementsthe ebin measurements. sometimes you need your ears to demo them personally to summarize your final opinion, dipshit 00s borner kidalso they're boring if they don't distort that way. it gives 10 times texture to your music, the driver is definitely capable and generates a good sound. sounds better than anything beyerdynamic ever created, somehow even more capable than hd800s. as a dynamic headphone with actual functionable transparent soundsage, it delivers. something like arya only good for bass uses but QC is spooky and i will never own any hifiman shit product ever. focal clear have a huge fucking vocal issue, the ringing in the vocals sound like fucking realistic bells. wtf?also adx5000s did distort and clipped a lot but it's because their drivers are very exposed, their drivers extremely sensitive to dirt and hair; there is a reason why it does it so the driver could generate a big and amazing sound. it's fully ranged headphone with boosts for manufactured reason. it's sensitive because your ears are closer to the drivers and there isn't enough padding to the driver so it's very exposed to dirt and hair clipping. a foam cover fixes it and still leaves them dynamic (unique audio foams don't ask from where). tradesoffs tend to happen but that's just like any headphone expensive audiophool product out there. they have tradeoffs like quarks and strengths, and sometimes some of them excel at certain productivities. never heard them distort personally though that much, only hair causes issues. probably you want adx3000 if you want something boring and gay (true neutral). most of audio technica line out expensive headphones are shit, especially the closed back market are overpriced shit but adx5000 delivers. their open back line out is decent and sometimes delivers. if you're hairy get away from them.tl;dr: it's a adx5000 shill post, kiddo. adx5000 are stax but more fun
>>106379964>read the bottom part of the post first>stax is one model memethank you Lord that I don't have to read an overly-long pointless post today
>>106380452you should thank me, nigger
>>106380473thanks for getting me to put on my sr-007+kgss
>>106379746shut up faggot
>>106380492i bet they sound like ass
>>106380507you should try getting ass before worrying about headphones
>>106380518you're so incorrected about audio in general, adx5000s are a serious product for legitimacy.
>>106380473>>106380492>>106380506>>106380507>>106380518>>106380555Hey guysHD650
>>106380555checked but im not spending $2000 on something i can 3d print>>106380574no
>>106380578you cant 3d print silver though
>>106380592I can 3d print any darth vader ahh headphone enclosure, bolt on aliexpress drivers and it'd be the same thing
>>106380607>aliexpress driverslmao these aren't for sell and unique drivers made in japan, unique to audio technica. the ones you're talking about are the denon-likes microfiber diaphragm that were copied and shitted out
everything literally comes out with full bodied sound and precision without fatigue on adx5000, compared to true thin sounded shitholes, narrow sounding garbos and terribly tuned treble shitholes(not adx5000 i swear) headphones. stax you're next.
>>106380715is the stax in the room with us at the moment
Hear ye hear yeI'm in the market for new headphones. My HyperX Cloud 2's are literally being held together with parcel tape so I need a good replacement. I have made 2 really poor decisions lately with the Cloud S Alpha & the Cloud 3 both sounding like fucking dog shit so I need you to shill me your brand. Only requirement is it needs to sound good literally out the box like my Cloud 2's. Plug them in and enjoy without needing to fuck around with softwareOr maybe I just bite the bullet and gamble on a pair of so called "new" ones on ebay
what the fuck is hd505 and hd550?
>>106381656Did the headband sliders shatter? Known issue, if you've got access to a 3D printer and some M3 hardware there's this:https://www.printables.com/model/499953-stronger-beyerdynamic-headband-slider
>>106379964>>106380715I'm glad you enjoy them, anon. But I wouldn't ever buy something that distorts that much. Bass distortion is sometimes pleasant but that resonance in the treble is worrisome since it seems to affect the frequency response. There are completely distortionless headphones that cost 500-800 bucks. Something with this much distortion at that price point is unacceptable. I'm not a harmanfag so the frequency response being different is of no concern, some people might like that sort of tuning but the distortion peak in the treble shouldn't ever have been there. >>106381702>hd 505HD560s with less treble according to Sennheiser. Seems that's indeed the case.>hd550This one uses a different driver so it's more similar to HD620S in build. Also somewhat warm.>>106381656What's your budget? At a similar price point to Cloud 2s you can get an open back SHP9500 or a closed back ATH M20x.>>106380506No.
>>106380653>these aren't for sell they are if you take them out of the headphones
>>106382427can't hear your post over my comfy $100 yangyueshanghang store MDR-R10 clones
>>106382427>MOOOOM I NEED 500-800 DOLLAR HEADPHONES TO LISTEN TO MY VOCALOID SLOP WITH PERFECT FIDELITY
>>106385144yes
So I need to retire my current headphones, and need a good sub $200, open back and detachable cable option.So basically, I´m between the Phillips Fidelio X2HR and the Audio-Technica ATH-R50x. Thoughts?
>>106385144Correct.>he doesn't have a FLAC vocaloid song folderngmi
>>106385268Depends how much you like treble. R50x is brighter and X2HR has more bass. R50x distorts less but sounds worse stock. If you want to use them without EQ then X2HR would probably sound better and definitely be more comfortable.
>king crimson from tonepoet.fans on R2R dac, tubes and HE-R9feels good chartfags will never experience this
Please shill me the AR-H1I'm looking for cheap planars and I can get them second hand
>>106383368that headband is pretty good (you can buy it separately); significantly better than the LCD-2 headband clonesI still have to try the fake ZMF headband but the moderately annoying part is that I may have to replace the yokes since they only come in 110mm and my current favorite headphones require 100 (and no I won't use 5 nuts to fill the gap)
HD800S/HD600 with tubes are not a meme. Holy fuck, they mog everything I've ever heard. What other headphones are really good with tube amplifiers?
>>106387887what have you heard previously?
I want some comfy 3.5mm buds for retro gamingAlways remember Bose buds were comfiest (even if they didn't sound the best) But are these from eBay just gonna be Chinkshit?
>>106382427They dont distort as long as you dont listen to music extremely loud
>quad era-1 + sr-009 padsbros, even a year later and after a lot of back-and-forth between different pads, this combo sounds unreasonably detailed AND spacious AND unfatiguing AND tonally correct to methere's nothing left to do, you can't improve this. thank god I was able to solve headphones at last (speaking of god, I can hear him through my headphones)hopefully I don't go deaf in a few years due to having too much fun too often
>>106388208Isn't comfort really just based on the tips? For me that's pretty much always been the case, and I've been using the same shitty silicone tips I got with some KZ IEMs over 10 years ago. Nothing has ever completed the seal as good as them. Many IEMs I've bought came with up to 6 tips, and none of them worked well in my ear and sounded like complete shit compared to my one and onlys. Sad that it's so hard to get a decent fit.
>>106390212Yeah, my ears just don't fuck with round tipsI might just get these HyperX buds insteadAt least I can return them if they're dogshit
>>106388208Are you just plugging IEMs into a chinkheld? Get pretty much anything on Aliexpress.
>>106391013Nintendo DSi XL
>>106352945>>106352925is this why most japanese songs are so badly mixed?
>>106390230You can get tips separately, try foam tips, etc.
Considering the terrible state of headphones in 2025, does anyone know any consumer headphones from the 2000s or 2010s that are worth getting used? The Sennheiser Momentum (original) is on my list but it’s hard to find information about other brands. Not studio headphones, as I am not a studio technician.
>>106388208Final E1000 or E2000, whichever is cheaper, but the 2000 is bassier and has a softer cable. Max comfort and pleasant sound.
>>106391232>Sennheiser Momentum (original)the original over-ear version was my first pair of not terrible headphones everbeautifully made for the price, and quite lively. I eventually bought HD650 because of the similar FR but didn't find them to be a huge upgrade (and actually a downgrade in the bass department). the main thing to look out for with momentum 1 would be the size of the pads relative to your ears - they were exceptionally small, even the over-ear versionthat said, I don't think I would buy it again in 2025 - I'd just use kph40 on the go and planar open-backs when at home
I wish Sennheiser headphones sounded as good as the graph did.
>>106391454
>>106391540I'm glad your Sennheisers sound as good as your graph then.
I like neutral sound , should I get the hd550 or hd600 ? both are close to the same price in germany for me
>>106391724hd600 but 300€ is too much for them
>>106391735I see them sometimes around 230 euros refurbished , do you think it's still worth ? why the 600 not 550 ?
>>106391761that's the upper limit and already a bit much for headphones that excel at not being offensive and not really much else, but completely justifiable if you know that they're exactly what you wantwhy not the HD550 is because I haven't browsed /hpg/ in a while and haven't heard of it, but it's got 50 HD units less so...
>>106391803what do you recommend around that budget that doesn't have disgusting treble or too much bass?
>>106382427>distortion peak in the treble shouldn't ever have been thereit's there now and it sounds epic
>>106391895>that doesn't have disgusting treble or too much bassHD600 actually, but wait for other anons to chime in just in case, and take their advice instead of mine when they do
>>106391927yeah , I don't really follow headphones so maybe there's a better thing now that does the same thing or maybe the new 550 is better
>>106391895I got my used HD700 (eq'd) for about that much, not nearly as veiled as 600, 650, 550, 6XX, etc.
>>106389456Or use EQ. Or watch movies since those often have 10 dB increases for explosios and whatnot. But fair enough, at 80 dB the distortion is probably not that high.>>106391175Most studios in Japan use Sony headphones for mixing. MDR CD900ST are basically their go to for voice monitoring. >>106388208Comfort is based on the tips and the width of the part that goes in your ear. If you want max comfort get some small IEMs like Chu 2 or Truthear Gate and use foam tips. At least that way you get detachable cables.>>106391900Sure.>>106391895Aune AR5000. Maybe FT1 Pro but the Aune is better since it doesn't have retarded design flaws FT1 Pro has.>>106391989Those are good when EQ'd but without EQ it's a fucking torture device with that treble spike.
does anyone have the edifier w800bt set? I can't find any review for those. or should I just go for an older model?
