they are not making this mistake again
They'll beg me to buy their shit once the AI bubble bursts.
>no tensor cores>no rt acceleratorsGood riddance, what a waste of a generational upgrade. They repeated the same mistake with the gtx1650 and 1660 but fortunately wised up with rtx3000.
>>106423122The AI bubble isn't going to burst any time soon.There's about to be serious developmental escalation between China and the US. They might completely close off trade over this.
>>106423189Wrong
>>106423189>porn slop generators are going to end global tradehow does one end up being so retarded they actually believe things like this?
>>106423189>The AI bubble isn't going to burst any time soon.Except that the global property bubble is bursting and it definitely could impact the AI bubble too with regards to money available for lending.2008 never stopped. It just got worse and this bubble burst is the one that we all saw coming but couldn't stop.
>>106423189>dot-com bubble will never burst>cloud computing is the future>3dtvs are the future>vr is the future>ai is the futureok buddy
>>106423109In future we don't need gpus. Everything is AI generated in cloud!
>>106423220>the global property bubbleWhat? Where? That's isolated to China. House prices in Western nations aren't a bubble. They're high due to demand (from migrants) and low supply.>2008 never stoppedYou clearly don't know what Quantitative Easing is or did.Yes, the debt bubble still exists. But that's a design flaw of debt-based fiat, which we began operating under after being shifted from precious-metals backed currencies.>>106423233>will never burstI didn't say that. But I do think the AI bubble will expand rather than burst for some time.
>>106423292>That's isolated to China. House prices in Western nations aren't a bubble.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/29/new-zealand-house-prices-falling-could-this-happen-elsewhereWrong.All western markets are in some form of bubble outside of the US. Even parts of the US are in a bubble too.
Oh and US banks don't just invest in local property markets, but if you've been paying attention to NY markets and the miles of empty leases, the US is clearly also in a bubble and honeymoon rates are yet again becoming the core of the problem.
>>106423375How high are interest rates?Do you think house prices would be unaffordable under high interest rates if there wasn't a major supply problem?>>106423375>new-zealandI'm not familiar with their market specifically. I've looked at Australia, Canada, the UK, and the US. This "bubble" (as you call it) is about to start affecting Spain.
>>106423387>NY markets and the miles of empty leasesYeah. I can't quite figure out why anyone would be fleeing NY, lol. I seriously doubt crime has anything to do with it.
>>106423213Right anon, I'm sure the greatest interest of the nation state regarding AI is generating loli porn. Please kill yourself
>>1064232332160p did stick even though 1080p is all you ever need.
>>106423433You can't have that much crime if neighbourhoods are empty.Rossman was going through how much it cost to rent in NY, it's absurd. Then he was riding around a city full of empty skyscrapers and shops, showing viewers just how bad the situation is.
>>106423415>How high are interest rates?Initially low, some even 0%.Until the honeymoon period is over and they become absurd and unpayable. Which is what is happening in NZ.Press is already trying to pin the blame on too much supply caused by the government, but many places in NZ have been empty for a long time now and it didn't pop the bubble. The change in rates would pop it. It did so in 2008. It's a repeat of history.
>>106423189God I hope so.
What mistake? Making a flagship card that was good on release but eventually became outdated and obsolete? Because it's not nvidia's fault or "mistake" that mentally ill poorfags feel pride in never buying hew hardware.
Too many people act like the entire planet had this card. They sold like 10x more 1060s than these. Card is too overhyped by the people that owned it and are still bagholding.A 5050 rapes it now lol
>>106423773It's the FIAT debt bubble.Exactly what modelling suggests would happen.It's a good thing, too.Basically, since our currency no longer needs to be backed by any hard assets (like gold or silver holdings), the banks can print as much money as they like. The profile typically follows business and home loans.So you can see that over time the only way to pay back the loans is by acquiring money that was created through the debt of others. The system builds upon itself and a debt-bubble naturally forms. There's far more debt than can ever be repayed in created currency, and eventually the debt-bubble collapses.What's interesting is where the debt accumulates. As one may intuit, businesses are likely far more intelligent with their financial decisions. So naturally the debt accumulated in the hands of those who are less economically savvy, but still able to get loans (typically for houses). Likewise for government however the government is able to raise taxes and even cancel the debt.It's happened numerous times through history and historic records indicate what the likely decisions of government/society are to be as the crisis approaches.What will happen? They usually let it get to a crisis point, without understanding the underlying systemic design flaw that caused it. At this stage governments *might* cancel debt, but with the IMF and other international institutions, they might be able to force severe austerity to try to repay the unpayable debt.I'll add that Quantitative Easing was an unusual intervention, but similar was done by BoE during WWII. And QE does give an "out" if the government decided to pursue it.
>>106423842The most important question is how did it get outdated?The answer is the size of the transistors.
>>106423465there's no other valid use case for AI though
>>106424032Sure there is.Take your job for one.
>>106423930The problem isn't with fiat currency, it's with fractional reserve banking. That's the same method that the government uses to "print" money (aka quantitative easing), what's happened is that the governments of pretty much all of the countries in the world have given their banks permission to print all the money they want.In a country that wasn't horribly dysfunctional, only the government would have the ability to print money, and it would print money to cover its expenses. That's the same as a flat tax with no possible loopholes; it reaches everyone that possesses money. It wouldn't require an IRS or paying an accountant to file your taxes, all of that shit would just happen automagically by the creation of new money. And in addition to increasing the efficiency, everyone's taxes would go down since you don't have to pay the bullshit tax to the bankers in addition to the hopefully less bullshit taxes to the government.
>>106424071but I'm unemployed
>>106423189LLMs aren't "AI".
>>106424189By definition they are.
>>106424364It's not.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect
>>106423944The fucking passage of time? What kind of retarded question is that? How are you on a technology board if you're of the delusion that technology never progresses? It's like claiming you'll never need anything stronger than a pentium 2 and a 3dfx voodoo2 for all time.
>>1064231093060 cooks it in Blender thanks to the RT cores.
>>106424495>The fucking passage of time?Not what I'm getting at, retard.It doesn't matter how much time passes if they can't manufacture more performant equipment. The only way, using current modalities, is with smaller transistors which enable lower energy consumption and a greater transistor density.
>>106423292Housing prices in the west are high because of chinks reverse morgaging their homes as collateral to buy up condominiums in Australia and Canada. (And the aus can governments encourage it)
>>106424451What is "intelligence"?What is "artificial"?Can something artificially exhibit properties that indicate intelligence?
>>106424643Yes
>>106424643wtf calculators are AI?!
>>106424822Yes.
>>106424587>if they can't manufacture more performant equipmentWhat the fuck do you think they've been doing for four generations now? Have you no concept of reality? Do you just bury your head in the sand and pretend there haven't been, at bare minimum, four x80 class cards that best the 1080ti?
>>106423109Crypto-mining insanity is what gave birth to it. The demand for flops outside of the HPC world. The only way graphical hardware will go down in price is going to be simple demand destruction.
>>106423109>bought on release in 2017 for VR>gamed on for 7 years>now handles video transcoding, TTS and home assistant AII don't know if it will ever truly die. I would still be using it in my main desktop if nvidia on linux didn't suck ass.
They did with 3080, but scalpers hit it hard. After that, nvidia realized that they can actually just double the GPU prices and still sell.Scalpers fucked it all up.
>>106423189>The AI bubble isn't going to burst any time soonOh you are 100% wrong it's coming and fast
>>106424643there's no such thing as "artificial" intelligencestop summoning demons >inb4 muh d-"AI isn't a consciousness!" <- people are here"AI is a consciousness, but it's good!""AI is a consciousness that is not good, but it's not a demon!""AI is a demon, but it's too late now! We summoned it, but who could have known it was a demon?"
>>106425180>>106429676Both of you need to go to school and learn how to think.
>>106423109the yare not making this mistake again
>>106423189AI bubble will never burst simply because soulless CEOs are addicted to the idea of not paying fair wage for the employees and seeing lines go up.
>>106429828They already did
>>106423109What was the mistake?
>>106431024Offering a SKU that offered excellent value and longevity. It was launched before new rounds of price discovers that were triggered by crypto-mining and later AI/ML silliness. In other words, Nvidia shareholders were "underselling" their SKUs until that point in time.In the new price paradigm a "1080Ti" would start at ~$1499 USD at minimal. Pricies are not going to go back outside of massive demand destruction a.k.a people losing complete interest in discrete SKUs.
>>106424503My CPU is better than the 1080ti in open data, lmao
>>106429828Sadly, the 7900XTX will not age well. The entire push for meme-tracing is going to kill it. Unlike the 1080T where meme-tracing in gayming was very immature and niche. >>106429889At best, it is a slightly cheaper "5070Ti". Not exactly a HD 4850 or RX 480 hmm?
>>106428082The original 3080 didn't age that well (10GiB wasn't cutting it). It just look good at first because Nvidia was actually worried that big RDNA2 would kick Ampere's ass (extrapolating from XSX/PS5) and was build on shitty, but cheap node (Samsung "10nm"). When it turn out that RDNA2 barely outpace Ampere at raster and fell short in ray-tracing. Nvidia dropped the caution and went back to business. The 3080 became the more expensive, 3080Ti or 3080 12GiB SKUs.
>>106423109they almost did that with the 4090, but they learned to price it high enough so no pleb can afford it.
>>106424189Far simpler programs than LLMs are AI. Chess engines and counterstrike bots are AI.
>>1064311274090 will not age well because of software and architecture clearly has deficiencies in graphics pipeline. It is over twice the size of AD103 but it is at best 50% faster at graphics. The same story for GB202 versus GB203.
>>106424451Your link is refuting your stance btw
>>106431160Yeah I think Ada will age poorly compared to Blackwell which brings a huge feature update.I disagree with your take though since 4090 uses a hugely downbinned ad102 (89% cores, 75% L2) just like the 5090 is.
Who cares? I had one but I sold it to afford rocks and so I broke into some faggot apartment and stole some shit including a PC with a GTX 950 built in and I mean it gets shit down I played some Indiana Jones with xcloud so it is more than enough and since is cheap I haven't exchanged it for rocks.
>>106431086shut up UE5 bitch
