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>>106419301I've been to a store, and I've ensured myself that I'd prefer tactical over linear, but other than that, there wasn't much to look like. The discount I mentioned before no longer works, and the v6 Max got slightly more expensive, so I'm reconsidering my options once again.>>106412058Coming back to this Aula f108 pro, I've seen the more preferable colours (in particular Gradient Grey RA or Black and Grey)cheaper from some other certified shop:https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009032435010.htmlSo how does this one stack up to Keychron V6/K10 Max? And what about the Aula f108 non-pro version? That one also is out there for a decent price.And speaking of that, how bad are the keycaps on that? Is the choice of keeping them on just aesthetics? Because maybe if I ignored that bit, grey buttons might be good enough (at least initially, I can always swap them out later if they bother me too much).And should I get o-rings? Would they help make it that bit more quieter even with silent switches? And what size should I get? I've seen those for under $2 for 125 of 2.5mm ones:https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000211277106.html
>>106426496I decided to get those:https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009032435010.html (Gradient Gray RA)https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008738227865.html (110 pcs)https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008738227865.html (Black, I dunno if I'll end up using them, but since I was ordering stuff anyway, I thought I'll get them just in case OD9xID4xCS2.5mm)For now, I didn't get any other keycaps, and first I'll see how those on there by default work. If I don't like them, then I can get some other ones.It ended up at a total of $99.11, so right in my initial budget.Thanks for all the advice, mates.
>>106426310>309x163
nth for curved keywells
Was half-unconscious clicking around vendors and this one woke me out of my stupor. Not sure whether based or cringe. Model M case shape on a 65% with a proper curved PCB/plate. And being a bit larger than a regular 65 it'll probably sound a lot less bad. Optional top mount or gasket mount, can't find any graphic of the mounting points though.https://novelkeys.com/collections/frontpage/products/curve-65-keyboardPrice is not bad, but no internal weight and layout is 99% fixed. But you get all the keys, no blocker. Hotswap tri-mode PCB only... yuck. 2kg assembled isn't terrible. 6061 aluminum... I'm trying to remember if that's bad. 6063 is the standard that you see on most stuff.Can't find any info about who is making this, all I know for sure is it's a Chinese project, because they've got Chinese in their graphics.
>>106428726Ok I'm looking at the zFrontier listing, "Play Keyboard" is behind this, I don't know who they are though lol, and that name is basically impossible to Google ("learn to play keyboard..."). Still no explosion diagram.
>>106426971I hope you're happy with all this. But since you're going silent, one more thing to consider: stabilizer noises will annoy you even more than they would annoy a regular keyboard user, since you're not getting much other noise from the keyboard. Consider getting a small tube of lubricant to occasionally inject into the stabilizers to quiet them down/stop the 'ticking'. Super Lube 21010 is cheap and does the trick wonderfully, the only thing that would make it more useful would be a needle tip for applying it.
Hi /mkg/. My left ctrl key keeps getting stuck down when I press it. Any idea how I can stop that from happening?
>>106426310Gaterons are shit. Never ever buy this trash with screeching springs.
>>106426971I realized I pasted the wrong link for the last one, it was supposed to be this:https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000211277106.html >>106429394I hope so too.Stabilizers are those extra pseudo-switches on wider keys like spacebar and enter, right? Would I have to just inject the lube after removing the keycap, or would disassembling something more be required?
I want cheap pre-shiny double-shot abs keycaps.
>>106429770What switch?Is the keycap original to the keyboard?How clean is the keyboard?When you remove the keycap and press the stem does it still get stuck?
>>106429774What? My reds are just fine.
I caved and spent $18 on another set of keycaps cause my keyboard has south facing LEDs, and the only ones I have are standard caps that make it impossible to read in non dim environments.I knew my AliExpress purchase was gonna bite me in the ass one way or another
>>106430884Those swirl designs will rub off and look even worse than they do now.>$18You got chinked. Get blanks and learn to touch type, no backlight needed.
I have a CM Storm with brown cherry switches. I’ve had it since 2020 but the esc has broken and this week I spilled some tea on it and even though I tried cleaning it I think the keyboard should be retired. Now in South Africa we have access to Ducky keyboards but my cousin said that I should consider a Chinese keyboard. With my credit card rewards I could get 50% off a Ducky so I’m leaning to that.
>>106431439>Ducky a shitSome older Duckys can't replace switches (hotswap) and all of them don't use qmk/via.Find something else less ridiculous than this brand.
Any hot-swappable wireless 100% keyboards that have a setup of macro buttons and a knob on the left side similar to the pic?
Is going from 100% to 96% with a shortened 0 on the numpad that bad? Most 96% boats I see charge an extra 100 for just the big zero
Anyone using splits? I was thinking about trying a silakka54 and adding my own switches and caps.Do you think it actually makes coding a bit more efficient or comfortable?
>>106430353>Would I have to just inject the lube after removing the keycap,Basically yes. You also have to sort of lift the stem to get access to the hole where the wire is.
>>106431439If you can get a Ducky for 50% off I'd just do that. No QMK/VIA isn't necessarily a problem if you use large keyboards and don't need to reprogram keys much. You get genuine cherry switches (still a plus imo even these days) and not the worst double-shot OEM caps.
>>106431934How I don't see how you can have the arrow cluster and avoid shortening the 0 without making the keyboard wider."Is it that bad" no. It's a great layout. You put your print screen/etc above the numpad and use the numpad for navigation. Numlock becomes an important key to keep track of so make sure you get one with indicator lights.
I would like a nice keyboard without any keys removed to move on from my Corsair K70.Ideally something made out of metal rather than plastic.It needs to have dedicated media keys as well, not stuck to any FN keys.I do not want any (L)RGB(T) lights on my keyboard, so if it has any it at least needs to be possible to turn them off while the keys remain fully visible.What would the professionals of /mkg/ recommend me?
What are the best caps to get for the Silakka54? I think I don't want flat caps.
>>106432864One of the Keychron Q6 models, or a Monsgeek M5.We're not exactly drowning in full-size options right now. There were some last year but you missed them.>It needs to have dedicated media keys as well, not stuck to any FN keys.Lol. You need that do you
>>106433726I forgot, there are also technically some more expensive all-aluminum full size Varmilo boards at Mechanicalkeyboards.com. e.g.https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/varmilo-sword-2-108-warrior-soarBut I don't know enough about them to say whether they're worth looking at or not. Obviously the keycaps are super ugly but replacing keycaps is easy.
>>106430796It means you are deaf. Clean your ears.
>>106432864Sorry, old faggot with greasy skin, but you are too poor for a good keyboard.
>>106433726Keychron does not have dedicated media keys, and yes, I do need that.Monsgeek has fucking disgusting animal keycaps, fuck that.And yes when I buy keyboard I expect it to come with proper keycaps, not play with my balls for some god damn keycaps.>>106434363>too poorPic related.Also flawless white skin, never had any acne either. Thanks for your understanding, faggot.
>>106434586>keychron does not have dedicated media keysIt has four extra macro keys in the top-right corner. Don't tell me you're too fucking stupid to use VIA
>It's me, a newcomer. I'm already in a bad mood so don't make it worse. Here's a list of my absolute REQUIREMENTS for a keyboard, which are the bare minimum for a respectable product; my budget is $100. You are all trannies btw. I will call everything you recommend me gay and/or Chinese, and then I will give a speech on how this bullshit is what's wrong with the world today. No of course I won't do any work at all to alter any keyboard to meet my requirements, not even changing the keycaps—because I am white. They're cloning this guy in a lab somewhere
>>106431274I make too many typos when I can't see, not at that level yet
>>106435198It really doesn't take a lot of light to see a good high-contrast legend on a regular keycap. This thing where people need "backlighting" is so bizarre.
>>106432532Being using split columnar stagger boards for over 10 years now, wouldn't want to go back. Wouldn't want to go back to a flat board after switching to a dacytl neither. These boards are programmable so I don't see why you couldn't make it work for whatever coding you do.
>>106435139>in a lab somewhereit's in your whore mother's womb
>>106432864Das Keyboard
>>106438280Thank you! Das Keyboard 6 Professional is exactly what I was looking for, the only issue is they don't have red cherry switches, so I'm not sure if I should go for it.Brown is the closest to red?
>Budget$150>LocationUS>Preferred switch typecherry mx red>LayoutISO or ANSI, doesn't matter to me>Form factorideally 100% but TKL is fine>Backlightas long as it can do white>Previous/current keyboardhad a corsair k70 pro, apparently the switches can't be fixed without doing some monkey shit and desoldering and resoldering the board and the comma key's switch gave out, pls help bros
>>106435398I would definitely opt for a set that only had transparent sides and opaque printed tops if i could find a set
>>106432532I use a helix split keyboard for coding.Yes it is definitely more comfortable I would not be able to go back to not having a mod key to write all the brackets and +-=.I don't recommend the helix though as I believe a keyboard with column stagger like the silakka is better than a pure grid.
>>106438831ducky or keychron I guess
>>106438831https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/collections/leopold/keyboardPersonally I'd spend an extra few bucks and get a hall effect. The K70MAX is pretty tits.
>>106434945keychron is dogwater.
>>106434945>troonix>nshartiaHe is even dumber.
>>106435472Do you know of any dactyl with buckling springs? I know there is an anon that assembles them for a price, but they have yet to answer when I ask them if they are able to provide them.
>>106440505Bro I already answered, right here >>106424762
>>106440512Please forgive me missing that and thank you for the response. >not worth itSo too much work, regardless of perhaps being supplied the switches, and time for any price?
>>106440534There's no reasonable amount of money I could charge you if you wanted a one-off BS dactyl. IIRC one of the dudes who works at unicomp made his own custom ortho model F type board, and getting it to work properly was a big pain in the ass. Now imagine how much more of a pain in the ass something with a curved keywell would be.
>>106440559That said, box pale blues mimic the force curve of buckling springs fairly well, I could easily just build a dactyl with those if you wanted.
>>106440606>>106440559Understood. I am ignorant of many things you are skilled and knowledgeable of in regards to forces and switch performance at different angles. It almost sounds like it would need to be a personal project.>reasonableWell, we would need to reason together to overcome that. It is already understood to be a larger task than what you currently enjoy providing, so a larger number is expected. I can tell, though, that this is something you do not want to do; so I will look into seeing how much it would cost(time&money) for myself to do it. I suspect it will be 4 figures for sure ;3
>>106440692Yea something in the 4 figure range is the unreasonable amount I had in mind. Assuming it can be done in the first place it would take days, probably weeks, of work to get to a finished board.
>>106441067Those are so delicious. I lived on Oahu for 6 years and they were something you would drive all the way around the island for if you had to.
>>106441078is yakult not a thing in burgerland? they're everywhere (and a bit overpriced really) in aus. but yes they're pretty nice
>>106441217Nope, You might find them in heavily populated Asian part of big cities, but I haven't seen them outside Hawaii, and I left in 1999.
>>106440327How many metal 100% boards with extra keys for media functions can YOU think of?
I wanna upgrade from my old Dell keyboard and dip my does into mechanical keyboards. Can someone recommend a decent entry level one under $100?
>>106443140https://store.monokei.co/collections/keyboards/products/sale-monokei-standardShipping will cost as much as the keyboard itself, but they're going out of business so they're selling the girl-colors of these boards (oops, girls don't like TKL) for a tiny fraction of what they used to cost. And they were considered a solid package back when they were full price.I'd get Cherry Browns on suave pink, myself.
Any cheap heavy clicky switches? I want a couple for caps/scroll/num lock to prevent turning them on accidentally.
>>106443229Ended up buying a Keychron C3 Pro (the hot swappable one) with brown switches. Got it from Amazon so I can always return it if I don't like it.
>>106438831revising this a bit, what would you guys recommend>budget$200-250>locationstill US>preferred switch typeany kind of reds>layoutANSI>form factorfull size>backlightsame as before, doesn't matter as long as it can do whiteI'm trying to find one that's got a full metal frame one like the corsair had and hot swappable switches, was looking at a q6 max but from what I'm seeing they've been having a bunch of quality control issues lately, what do I do bros
>>106443808Could do worse I guess
>>106444202>doesn't matter as long as it can do whiteThis is the part that's confusing me. Does it not matter or do you need it
Does anyone know if the SteelSeries apex 3's keycaps can be removed and replaced?
>>106445030>>106445030Looks like they have some kind of proprietary switch, so if compatible keycaps exist they would be made by Steelseries specifically as replacements for this keyboard. Seems like the kind of thing you'd need to go through customer support to find out.
>>106445050Oh, alright thanks
>>106443728And I meant heavy as in actuation, not as in a very loud click.Any opinions on Box Navy?
>>106445050actually on closer look it just looks like a rubber dome over membrane keyboard ("water resistant"...), not a "proprietary switch"
>>106445056There was a time I meant to buy BOX Jades and accidentally bought BOX Royals. Holy fuck were they strange to type on. You really feel the weight and I doubt ill ever get used to it, it draws your attention on every keypress. I normally enjoy baby kangaroos so it was quite a bit heavier.I only use them on keys i want to feel strange to press.I couldn't imagine typing on Navys that are even heavier at 90g Peak75g Operating90g Bottomalthough maybe the weird feel of Royals came from how sharp the peak was in combination with the weight.TLDR. Beware they may be too heavy.
>>106445300Yeah, I don't want them for general typing, just for:>on keys i want to feel strange to press.caps/scroll/num lock, maybe also insert and print screen
>>106443728Box navies are what you're looking for. The box clickbar switches were never consistent enough to not annoy the shit outta me, but since you only want them for a couple keys it shouldn't be a problem.
>>106445013I was more getting at that it doesn't matter what kind it has, I just want some kind of backlighting that can do all white under the keys. If one keyboard has some customizable backlight that can do strobing patterns or whatever else, great. If it's just one solid color, that's fine too. I just want it to be able to do all white
I have a 42-key mini dactyl. Currently running some cheapo MDA keycaps (like picrel). They are sculpted ABS, with only slightly spherical top. They are alright, but I have accidental presses while typing, and the texture isn't that enjoyable. Should I try DSA or XDA next, in PBT? I am also considering SA, as I dig the idea of a deep spherical well in the keycap, but I fear it will make my keyboard too tall and unwieldy. I don't care about colors or legends or the thock faggotry. Only care about typing comfort, feel and accuracy.Perhaps anyone running a keycap mix on dactyl? Especially for the thumb clusters, to make them less tall? Actually thinking of trying SA on the keywells, and DSA on thumbs to do just that.
>>106445734Logitech K845 Just does white with shine through keycaps.60 bucks for cherry reds. I have this on one of my other computers and it's pretty solid although a little scratchy compared to the hall effect I use the majority of the time.
>>106445934SA was too tall & the tops of the keycaps too wide for a dactyl IMO. Meant that you could easily hit keys adjacent to the one you were actually trying to hit. MT3 doesn't have this problem for me since it's a little bit shorter, and the keycap tops are smaller. DSA & KAM work well on a dactyl too.
>>106445734Ok just as long as you're aware that backlighting looks retarded on cherry mx keyboards (pic related, turned the backlighting on my keychron on to demonstrate)
>>106446173And this is what it's like trying to read the legends with the backlighting on: more difficult, not easier
>>106445982Thanks, bud. Guess I won't be going with SA then. Don't have money for MT3 yet.
might just go for a q6 max off amazon so I can just return it in case it ends up being a dud, it looks like the only one that's got everything I want>full sized>full metal>rgb backlight>gasket mounted>hot swappable switches>tri-mode connectivityanyone got any suggestions before I hit buy?
>>106446490https://geon.works/products/force-brake-pad
>>106446490Don't get the bananas, that's the important thing
Looking for angled coiled usb-c cables is a pain in the ass. Are the 90 degree adapters usable? I’m trying to find something that’s visually fitting with my K10 HE SE.
>>106448977Have received troublingly little feedback from the sister, don't know whether she's enjoying these switches or not
>>106448996No news is usually good news.
Want a good 70-80% mkb with RBG and a volume rocker. Should I spend $200 on this bitch or are there cheaper alternatives?
>>106449752There are lots of cheap 75% rgb boards with knobs. 80% too. Don't know how many have shine-through caps or north-facing RGB though.
>>106449752CORSAIR - K70 PRO TKL Wired Hall Effect is 130 USD. I don't think the switches are hot swappable on the Corsair but there is no reason to swap out hall effect switches... they should literally last a lifetime.>>106450335It's a hall effect.
>>106450423>It's a hall effect.You entered the Mechanical Keyboard General and said "Want a good 70-80% mkb with RBG and a volume rocker."
>>106446173>>106446207It looks fine. I'm not sure what you're talking about "the legends are harder to read" they're bright AF.Besides the only time I ever really look at my keyboard is to find the home keys, otherwise I touch type.
>>106450448>I'm not sure what you're talking about "the legends are harder to read"I mean it's obvious to my eyes that the legends are easier to read when the backlight is off than when it is on, and the picture is meant to illustrate that when you look at it in thumbnail or blur your vision a little the legends become hard to make out because the light between the keys dominates visually.
>>106450447I responded to the guy Looking at a SteelSeries Apex Pro TKL with OmniPoint 3.0 switches--OmniPoint 3.0 switches are hall effect. Someone, I'm assuming you?, said there are a bunch of 75%s with bla bla bla--which there are--but they aren't hall effect. Hence I corrected them/you? and then recommended a cheaper version.Mechanical keyboards are shit for gaming compared to hall effect anyways. They're fine for work but anyone who pretends they can hold a candle to hall effect keyboards is retarded and not worth listening to.Anyways, again, I was responding the Apex anon about alternatives (which there aren't many).
>>106450461>The legends are easier to read with the backlight offYou have eye problems. See an optometrist immediately.
You will come back to linears. It is inevitable.
>>106450478>Mechanical keyboards are shit for gaming compared to hall effect anyways. They're fine for work but anyone who pretends they can hold a candle to hall effect keyboards is retarded and not worth listening to.There are two kinds of gamers who buy this sort of shit (and there's always something new that you "need" to have an "edge"):- Pros playing at the highest level who know this is a <1% improvement but for whom small incremental gains could make the difference- Losers who struggle either because they are stupid or lazy, and believe because of marketing and hype that this will deliver the huge gains they're missingGuess which one you are
>>106450649I've been trying to stay in clickyland as long as I can take it and it definitely does wear on you after a while. I know someday I'll be back to the browns (we tactileheads consider them a linear so I'm agreeing with you)
>>106450882Stop lying to yourself. Only linears are viable.
>>106450963I've hit some of my all-time wpm records on my clicky keyboard the last few days, so I think it's perfectly usable... I just thought I'd be more desensitized to the sound and feel by now. It's still a lot
