>>106431176
>"""linux""" thread
>op image displays windows users as gigachads
>GNOME bad
Subversion

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>>106431176
>kde

>>106431217
Fuck Red Hat.

>>106431217
What does SVN have to do with it?

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>based

The Indian schizo is back, and with no beef to show for it!

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>saar

>>106431312
>indian >>106431313

uh oh, melty

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>106431313
You are an Indian.

>>106431327
beefschizo please take your meds

>any windows past 7
>gigachad
LMAO

>>106431324
just reminding people what the true kde™ experience is like

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>>106431314
libinput seems to load (I also installed xf86-input-libinput), but keyboard is not working on desktop. Maybe something to do with the qemu, idk.

>>106431355
>nano

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is there a package to have a cute konqi desktop critter running around my computer and optionally presenting his hind quarters for me to finger with the mouse?

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>>106431355
Now it works, xf86-input-keyboard-dfbsd works for some reason. Maybe I can stop this madness now.

>>106431327
Good post

>>106431327
>>106431420
samefag

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>>106431425
Says the biggest serial samefag on this board. Post beef.

>>106431426
if you want me to post beef you need to take your meds

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>>106431435
You're never going to post beef because it's illegal where you live! I'll keep using Plasma and enjoying the succulent taste of beef.

>>106431456
like I said, I'll post beef when you take your meds.

real thread >>106431476
>real thread >>106431476
real thread >>106431476
>real thread >>106431476
post there

>>106431297
Isn't his Xorg problem? I had similar issue on Kwin x11 and lxde.

>>106431560
>still samefagging

>>106431568
>still beefless

>>106431574
>still medless

>>106431327
That image doesnt explain or prove anything

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Guys, I installed Arch with KDE. Everything works fine, but my audio interface isn't working. The audio meter shows that the audio is playing, but it's not playing through my speakers.
It's an Audient EVO 4. Those interfaces are supposed to work without a driver on Linux.
Any idea what could be going on?

>>106431355
Do you have your user added to the input group? Otherwise you have to set up elogind i think.

>>106431543
No

>>106431666
Change your audio profile in the burger menu

>>106431238
hrt did this

>>106431238
KDE devs are bad at Qt, news at 11.

>>106431928
They didn't build the toolkit, they just use it. The solution to this problem is to enforce a minimum viewport size for the window but that's a shitty thing to do because sometimes people want to re-size it smaller anyway for "reasons".

I love LXQt and how snappy it is but goddamn, add an Option into PCMan-FM to connect to a samba share already.

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If you don't need to use the AUR, why is Manjaro bad?

>>106431176
How do I keep my data when moving to another distro? I don't want to backup everything again

>>106432733
I believe you have to set up your /home folder on your current distro as its own subvolume. When you install a different distro, there should be an option in the partition configuration to not write to that specific subvolume.

>>106432745
>>106432733
This is easier with Btrfs, but the exact steps differ slightly if you're on Fedora or something, since Ubuntu uses an @ prefix for subvolume names.
So:
>Which distro are you currently on?
>Are you using Btrfs?

>>106431272
It's afraid.

>>106431238
They should just use JS+CSS+HTML for their GUI, instead of C+++Qt+XML which are clearly inferior (or at least they don't know how to use them).

>>106431260
this is intended, no? Your cursor should get infinitely large if you infinitely shake it.

>>106432686
I've used it for a couple of years and it was pretty good, but buggy as hell. If you're looking for an easy to use Arch distro, it's probably in the top 5.

>>106432733
You can have a separate partition for your /home directory and use it between different distros, but it's not recommended since it contains a bunch of configs which might be specifically configured for certain versions of software or certain DEs.
If you're moving between distros often it's better to just have a separate partition where you'll keep your /home subdirectories (Downloads, Documents, etc.). When you install a new distro just leave the partition alone instead of formatting it, then after installing your new distro you can just replace your new distro's /home subdirectories with symlinks to your "global" directories in that separate partition.
I had a similar setup on my old PC where I just had my Downloads directory in a separate drive, while my OS drive only had a symlink to it in my /home. It was really convenient for distrohopping since I usually only cared about my Downloads dir.

>>106431313
>KDE India Conference
>All of the attendees are Indian
Wow, what a shocker.

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>Get tired of W11 shitting itself on every update
>Format the entire ssd and only put Mint on it
>Have a personalized and better running setup ready for gaming (protonge, lutris, steam, etc), programming and working in less than a day thanks to all the guides with it being a popular distro

I can't believe I didn't switch to linux sooner. Also, should i stick with mint? I've read it's packages have been outdated for a while. And what are some good guides to get better at using linux? Thx

>>106432901
>>106432904
If you must feed the troll, tell him to post beef.

Krashposter, your response? >>106432913

>>106432686
An Arch fork makes no sense as a project.
>>106432922
Stick with Mint unless those outdated packages bug you in any way. BTW Mint is an Ubuntu reskin and uses the latest Ubuntu LTS repositories.

>>106432922
>Also, should i stick with mint?
Mint was a good distro in 2017 but everything else in existence has caught up to it in terms of user-friendliness and convenience. Like you said, its packages are severely outdated (it's still using GIMP 2.10 from fucking 2018), so Mint is just...redundant. The only reason it's still recommended is because of YouTubers regurgitating 2017 Reddit posts recommending it.

>>106432937
>An Arch fork makes no sense as a project.
What a retarded line of thought. Arch as a piece of software has good infrastructure and is a very lean distro; why should I be forbidden from leveraging this through a GUI installer?

>>106432841
Sorry, i forgot to mention I am on mint. And dont remember if I am using brtfs
>>106432745
Seems easy enough
>>106432901
I am not going to do it regularly, I just suddenly felt that I needed to change my setup. I am also considering just reinstalling mint to get a clean setup on a different DE

>>106432686
It's a distro that makes no sense.
>But they hold back packages.
Use Arch with the snapshots repo and update the snapshot when you feel like it.

>>106432971
>Sorry, i forgot to mention I am on mint. And dont remember if I am using brtfs
Mint defaults to ext4. To be honest, I don't even know how to install Mint with btrfs; I tried in a VM once, and it failed to boot.

>>106432962
EndeavourOS exists case the installer part is meaningful to you.
(why doesn't an universal Linux installer exist yet? it's all about extracting crap to a filesystem and then making it bootable)

>>106432991
>why doesn't an universal Linux installer exist yet?
Calamares is that.
https://calamares.io/

>>106432972
>Use Arch
No GUI installer.
>Well, use Endeavour with the snapshots repo and update the snapshot when you feel like it
I don't feel like it, ever. I don't want to set that up, at all. I cannot for any reason fathom why you are telling me to install Arch and set it up with a snapshots repo (I don't know what that is) in order to replicate Manjaro (and not even well, since I apparently need to update the snapshot manually)...instead of getting the desired effect through installing Manjaro. What's this phenomenon called where somebody intentionally does something in the most timewasting way possible to score brownie points on forums?

>>106432993
Looks like they moved to Codeberg recently and didn't move their website yet:
https://calamares.codeberg.page/

>>106432937
Well so far I haven't had any impediments for anything I've wanted to do so I'll probably just stick with Mint as you've said.
>>106432938
So, what are some of those other distros that are just as friendly as mint and more up to date?

>>106432938
Mint's main flaw is the fact it's an LTS distro. Most current desktop users don't find a 2-year release schedule acceptable, especially considering Linux defaults to "source your software from your distribution, rather than the actual app developers/publishers" model (which is a major setback in Linux desktop adoption). It does default to Flatpak nowadays, but it doesn't really solve the outdated drivers/libraries issue.
And, of course, the other major flaw is not shipping with KDE/GNOME which are the only relevant DEs.
I'd say it still has it's place. If a user wants Cinnamon (or Xfce) and a Debian/Ubuntu base, it's still slightly better than actual Debian and Ubuntu. It's still a fine recommendation, but probably not the first distro people should recommend anymore.

>>106433002
>What's this phenomenon
It's called tinkering and autism. Same people are against any "just works" distros.

>>106433110
>what are some of those other distros that are just as friendly as mint and more up to date?
Anything from Universal Blue (Aurora, Bazzite, Bluefin)

Debian actually seems pretty okay with Plasma 6 now.

>>106433002
>No GUI installer.
What's wrong with a TUI installer like Arch Install?

>>106432371
Qt could definitely have made layouts and auto-sizing less confusing, but this is still KDE devs' fault for not Referring to The Fucking Manual.
https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/qsizepolicy.html#Policy-enum

>>106433197
I want to click on actual visual metaphors so I know I don't fuck them up. Not to mention, being able to play around in a live environment is important, which you just can't do on vanilla Arch.

>>106433197
The answer is pretty much the same as "why watch a movie or play a game instead of read a book". In most cases GUI is more human-intuitive/natural and convenient. A CLI is there for people who have the technical know-how or for people who want to learn. And not everyone wants to learn shit they'll never have any use for.

So does LMDE now have newer packages than baseline Mint?

>>106433197
>What's wrong with a TUI installer like Arch Install?
How do I partition a drive in archinstall so I don't nuke an existing drive?

>>106433449
No, it's still on older Debian. LMDE is usually released 3 months after Debian

>>106431253
yuck, this the newest version?

>>106433580
This only appears if you have a 1280x720 resolution and you use Application Menu instead of dashboard or launcher.

>>106433406
TUI != CLI though.
A TUI is actually quite similar to a GUI in many respects. You can have buttons and toggles, drop-down lists, etc, all of this is possible in a TUI.

>>106433605
>A TUI is actually quite similar to a GUI in many respects
I would still consider it much closer to CLI than GUI.

>>106432938
>(it's still using GIMP 2.10 from fucking 2018),
Bad example. Mint is based on both ubuntu 2022 and debian 12 (from 2023) while gimp only had its major 3.0 release this year
For most people. Mint is ok and packages being outdated doesnt really matter unless your on bleeding edge updoot hardware.

>>106433626
You'd be wrong.
CLI is command line interface i.e something like:

./do-the-install --target-disk=/dev/sdX --install-desktop=kde --additional-packages="foo bar baz"

A TUI is an actual semi-graphical application that can guide you through the install process properly.

I've played around with KDE the last few weeks but I think I'm more a Cinnamon guy. I want to distro hop to a popular DE that isn't as Windows-like for variety. What can you recommend?

>>106433655
The only thing windows-like would be the taskbar which only GNOME doesnt use since they have a dock. But i wouldn't recommend gnome, there's always something wrong with it.

>>106433655
If you like Cinnamon but don't want to use Shitmint, there's Cinnamon editions of Fedora and CachyOS.

>>106433671
Maybe I don't understand what makes the other DEs so Windows like then, I figured the desktop, start menu, and system settings/personalization menus of theses DEs were part of that.
>>106433701
I'm comfy with my arch build, I'm just shopping around for the best fitting DE for me.

>>106433650
Sure, you've convinced me. A TUI is just a shit UI. It's basically like teletext, a limited and annoying to use interface which very few people actually don't mind using.
I would not consider it to be close to GUI usability-wise.

>>106433655
GNOME? Or Budgie, but a lot of distros customize it to look Windows-like.
In reality you should just customize your KDE Plasma. The 2 most popular DEs by far are KDE and GNOME and the others are basically a margin of error in terms of development and users. If you're too lazy to rice Plasma, you can just get a distro which makes it different than Windows, like some Garuda editions
https://garudalinux.org/editions

I just finished setting up Debian; my first go at a grown-up distro after Mint and Kubuntu kindergarten. Took me half the fucking day. I suppose had I followed a step by step guide, it would have been much quicker but still. Fuck doing that again. I don't know how the you people manage with Arch and Gentoo etc.

I guess you need to really love that shit.

>>106433782
>like some Garuda editions
Oh please no. No. I'm not in the mood to elaborate, just don't recommend Garuda.

>Gnome on top
>No tribal shit
>Gnome no longer on top and outdone by multiple DE to the point major companies don't even consider it
>tribalism multiplies to an all time high
I'm tired boss

>>106433838
>>Gnome on top
>>No tribal shit
Yeah, nah.

>>106433782
Oh fuck, I haven't even considered ricing yet, never done it. Mayhaps I start there in customizing my desktop.

>>106432686
Not advantages compared to CachyOS where AUR works just fine

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>>106433915
Most of it was from former users that got pushed away by overly opinionated devs that are destroying their project even with top tier backing. Gnome has nothing killer to offer anymore and it's getting sad at this point. The linus tech dicks disaster, the steam disaster, the overall fractioning they keep causing.
When are they going to take responsibility for the sheer amount of headache and drama they have caused. The could have maintained many of the features they randomly lop off seeing how there are whole teams with successful DE that have no problems doing that after they pushed them away.
Your move Yugi

>>106433925
Manjaro comes with a GUI package manager and CachyOS doesn't.

>>106433970
And Manjaro has been a laughing stock for years because of their incompetence which is why upstart distros took their lunch with minimal effort

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>>106431176
I always thought of it as KDE is for Windows users and Gnome is for Mac users.
Am I retarded?

>>106434003
That would be an insult to mac desu

Trying to upgrade from Debian Sarge to Etch (long story), and I noticed one roadblock I am getting is that at least one key is expired, which is probably preventing me from updating the kernel, which might be preventing me from getting a desktop environment working. What do?

>>106433977
>because of their incompetence
I haven't noticed this incompetence while using it. I installed it in May and it's been smooth sailing ever since.

>>106434073
>May
This story doesn't concern you the gnome story spans over a decade and has been a slow burn. I'm glad you enjoy it anon and my best advice is to leave this thread and ignore it.

>>106434151
So it's another case of the Linux community terminally repeating outdated info as current? I look forward to the next /fglt/ flamewar over playing NTFS games on Linux.

>>106434173
Or you haven't used other DE and realize how limiting and shitty gnome is, or you didn't have gnome ruin your workflow to the point it spawned 2-3 more DE. Like I said many people that hate gnome got burned by gnome one way or another. Gnome has hurt adoption for linux desktop the most and has held that crown for years.

>>106434199
Yeah I don't use GNOME because it just looks faggy

>>106431707
Yeah I've added the user to pretty much all the groups required for functional X11 desktop. I guess it's the elogind then. Funny how these things depend on systemd even if you don't use systemd, elogind is part of systemd AFAIK.

Is there a specific reason as to why neofetch and lspci etc don't show the specific model for my GPU? The latter especially is very unambigious about it.

>>106434308
Because it's not possible to tell from the PCI device ID alone.

>>106434199
nta but I got used to gnome and honestly I think other desktop environments have too much going on. gnome is very simple UI with a lot of features.
just my take really a flamewar over your desktop environment is retarded to begin with.

Anyone else tried to build a clone of Davinci Resolve in the last few weeks? I' having issues with the latest version that just dropped but I didn't see anyone else express this, likley because the new build released recently.
It's weird, I thought it had an AUR page about it but the only way I see to even get the url for it now is directly from Black Magic's website.

is this just sid or has sddm been using the overlay keyboard that blocks you from seeing the login/pass field for over a year now
i don't even have a touch device

anyway switched to lightdm

>>106433800
I just used it as an example of a pre-riced KDE, but what's wrong with it?

>>106434173
Gnome was just REALLY shit in the 3.x days so many people still hate it. And the GNOME foundation seems like a complete unstable mess in the past few years so the future of the DE looks bleak to some people.
>Linux community terminally repeating outdated info as current?
Literally everyone does this, it's not exclusive to some "Linux community". A lot of people who don't use Linux still consider it "that OS that's just a terminal and doesn't have a UI", or "that OS which doesn't have internet and caused a girl to drop out of college" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRWrmT0ovPE).
People just don't want to do research to update their views because there's no benefit in doing so. Like, why waste time proving yourself wrong when you can just parrot the same thing over and over again and say "nu-uh, I'm right, bye".

>>106432993
I mean a generic installer that literally lets you pick between
>Arch
>Ubuntu
>Debian
>Fedora
>Gentoo
etc.

>>106434282
Elogind shouldnt be needed if you have the user added to both the input and video groups
maybe you need udev/eudev though

>>106434548
>A lot of people who don't use Linux still consider it "that OS that's just a terminal and doesn't have a UI"
You'd think that from reading these threads. Each and every fucking time someone has a problem, he's told to

just do roundabout terminal bullshit

instead of the one-click GUI solution that's existed since the fucking Bush presidency. In this very thread, some fucking dipshit told somebody that instead of simply installing Manjaro, he should install Arch (through a command line) and set up snapshot repos (through a command line) and manually update his package sources (through a command line) each time he wants updates, all in a roundabout attempt to mimic Manjaro. Who the fuck would do this instead of just installing Manjaro? Idiot COs who give stupid instructions like that get rightfully murdered by privates in their sleep.

>>106434730
>Who the fuck would do this instead of just installing Manjaro?
people who want to understand what manjaro is doing behind the scenes so when it fails you know how to fix it
in which case you might as well have done it yourself. arch and arch based distros are going to be catered to a user that can navigate the terminal

Have I shifted realities or why do I remember that IceWM should include its own cool little file manager, image viewer, etc. utilities?

>>106434755
>people who want to understand what manjaro is doing behind the scenes
What is stopping you from doing this within Manjaro? His stupid suggestion isn't even remotely how Manjaro works either, because Manjaro's held-back updates are eventually given to you anyway; not so with snapshot repos. The CORRECT solution to get the Manjaro repos is to have Pacman tune not into Arch snapshot repos, but the Manjaro repos. Shocking, I know. The fact people can be so proudly tech-illiterate yet insist on providing dogmatic retardation for no other reason than "Arch btw" proves there is an enormous Dunning-Kruger effect in the Linux community. Disavowing any and all Arch-based distros for not being vanilla Arch doesn't make you a fucking sysadmin; knowing how shit works does, which the dipshit skids who get memed into using Arch by YouTubers haven't a clue about.

is systemd-nspawn the right way to do chroots now?

>>106434774
Yeah by default it doesn't include any of that, people do use IceWM with ROX or XFE, that might be what you remember

>>106434847
Yeah now I remember, icewm does not include such utils but there was this simple set of tools that includes a file manager, an image viewer and other stuff. What is its name? I can't find it, it's simple but powerful. The tools all look similar, made by same dev and probably built/installed in same package.

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>>106434814
said this last time someone was talking about using any arch-based distro.
arch has a philosophy of KISS. when another layer is added on top of arch through some other maintainer, you're not keeping it simple anymore. they introduce their own opinions on how a system should run and what the software should do and how it should be used, and a novice user will have no fucking clue.

ex: yesterday someone was using one of those new trendy 2nd tier distros with zram configured by default. they were playing their games then suddenly they ran out of memory. why could this happen? they have 8GiB of RAM. turns out the distro made the decision for you that swap on disk is bad and that zram is better, even though 8GiB might not be enough for your use case. You have no idea why or how this happened, and the errors don't imply that the choices made by the maintainer don't fit your use case.

if you don't want to do it yourself and don't know what is happening behind the scenes then don't complain when it doesn't work.

>>106434847
Looks like it is xfe, thanks anon.

>>106431176

emerge -av gnome-base/gnome
Total: 370 packages (362 new, 8 in new slots), Size of downloads: 1,541,428 KiB
Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No]

oof.

>>106434616
probably going to be a big bunch of files because each and every one of those is going to have different packages for all the same stuff.

>>106434874
>arch is lean and has good infrastructure
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T ENJOY THIS UNLESS YOU MANUALLY INSTALL BASE ARCH FOR MUCH ARCH BTW
Who gives a shit whether base Arch is KISS? That's the point of any distro based on Arch, hell it's the point of any other distro short of shit like LFS.

Tell me this, ideologue: if your Arch configuration is so good, why doesn't it deserve to exist as a distribution ready to install?

>>106434932
I don't even use arch, but if I had to say it would be because it's installed the way I like it and you wouldn't like it.

>>106434967
Okay. But some people like EndeavourOS, and Manjaro, and CachyOS, and Artix, et cetera.

>>106434814
>>106434932
Some people just want minimalism by default and want to configure their OS manually.
Using Manjaro is fine even if you want to tinker with it. In fact, any Linux distro (even most immutable ones) are tinker-friendly. But the tinkerers who are obsessed with minimalism and control would start by debloating Manjaro and they'd find it annoying compared to just starting with Arch or even Endeavour (which is just Arch + your DE of choice).

The thing is, nowadays Linux has become mainstream enough to the point where these types of tinkerers/ricers are a very small minority. Whereas even a decade ago these would be the only people talking about Linux online. This is why some people still have the idea that, when chatting online, they're talking to the same minimalist/control-freak echo chamber of Linux users.

>>106434984
if you don't want to do it yourself and don't know what is happening behind the scenes then don't complain when it doesn't work
especially when it doesn't work the way you want it to, because someone else made the assumption about you and your hardware for you

>>106434882
Nice, it's my favorite file manager, I just wish it had proper icon support

>>106435016
>if you don't want to do it yourself and don't know what is happening behind the scenes then don't complain when it doesn't work
not every user wants to be a sysadmin or a developer, retard

>>106435014
>Some people just want minimalism by default and want to configure their OS manually.
That's their prerogative. What is the point of telling somebody "no, Manjaro is shit; you should instead install Arch and incompetently (as his suggestion was) configure it to kind of resemble Manjaro"? I don't get how this is going to be helpful to anybody.
>>106435016
You can monitor dbus traffic on any fucking distribution. Incompetently (as his suggestion was) tweaking Manjaro to kind of resemble Manjaro isn't going to teach you about how Manjaro works any better than just opening a terminal in Manjaro. That's the peak of Arch Dunning-Kruger.

>>106435073
*tweaking Arch to kind of resemble Manjaro

>>106435073
maybe I'm not talking about you, who knows whats happening and why your manjaro didn't do what you expected
I guess I assumed you were defending everyone who ever used manjaro and complained and was recommended to learn arch linux then, by the previously established >>106434730

>>106435073
>What is the point of telling somebody "no, Manjaro is shit; you should instead install Arch and incompetently (as his suggestion was) configure it to kind of resemble Manjaro"?
gatekeeping, I assume

>>106435091
>who knows whats happening and why your manjaro didn't do what you expected
I'm not in need of Arch troubleshooting. What set me off is that some dipshit is supposing three things:
>Manually installing Arch will magically give you the power to fix any issues you might have on an Arch-based distro
>You should go through this humiliation ritual instead of just Googling the solution
>Arch-based distros don't even deserve to exist because....ummmm......uhhhhhh........ Arch isn't meant to be KISS!
Not a single fucking person (0) gives a needle in your mum's arsehole about whether Arch is "supposed" to be easy. What people care about is whether CachyOS, Endeavour, etc are good operating systems. If the answer is yes, why should they have the slightest discomfort about it going against muh Arch philosophy, if they've already declined regular Arch anyhow?

>>106434331
Aight, thanks.

>>106435171
till catchy's default zram gives you out of memory errors and you don't know why
just take it with a grain of salt, i don't care what you use but it happens far too often to ignore and yes, you're going to run into elitists who would want you to learn the terminal

>>106435171
>>106435191
sorry, one last thing. then I'm done. if you don't want to use the terminal then an arch based distro is probably not best.

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>>106434909
>big bunch of files
Why should it be? You can just bootstrap from repositories.
https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap

>>106435195
but I use SteamOS all the time and I never use the terminal, anon

>>106434826
No
It depends on your usecase for chrooting but usually you would use lxc if you're trying to create a container/jail

>>106435231
i want something lightweight to test really basic shit like python scripts

>>106435223
Yeah, at least they have the insight to not let you mess with their cohesive packages and settings. It definitely works the way they want it to, and if they let you change those settings then you're not getting help from valve. And you wouldn't expect someone here to be able to troubleshoot it for you

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>>106431176
>$ man %command%
>$ info %command%
>$ %command% -h/--help
>$ help %builtin/keyword%
Add tldr to that

>>106435243
You might be better off using a docker/podman container that already comes with the whole python runtime environment

>>106435191
>till catchy's default zram gives you out of memory errors and you don't know why
Why would Arch be any different, fuckhead? What's stopping a CachyOS user from opening up a terminal and doing the same checks and applying the same edits as somebody on regular Arch? Don't you understand that, by definition of being an Arch-based distribution, these distros are equally as tinkerable as regular Arch, because they ARE fucking Arch? Not to mention that it's all fucking Linux under the hood, meaning that 99% of Arch advice is just as applicable to Fedora (Archcunts wouldn't know this because they're skids who don't know a thing about Linux). Please stop posting retarded drivel.

>>106435260
docker isn't exactly lightweight
even podman isn't

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>>106431238
Right this way anon -> https://bugs.kde.org/

>>106435275
>just as applicable to Fedora
with the implication of "let alone Arch-based distros"

>>106435284
In what way? I doubt its much different from a chroot
You could also just set up a bubblewrap environment so that you dont risk your scripts breaking anything

>>106435353
docker is a whole-ass stupid runtime w/ tonnes of crap included ig

>>106431176
Tell me about the windows 10 with scripts

>>106435353
>I doubt its much different from a chroot
I doubt your IQ is in the triple digits

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>>106435366
You can use massgrave to change your Windows Update channel to Windows 10 Enterprise, which'll get you free security updates until October 2028. I don't think you can use it to change to Windows 10 IoT LTSC though, which'll have support until 2032.

>>106435419
Anon, I'm the guy asking about chroots. Please, there's no need to insult people. Friendly Gaynoo/Linux Thread.

>>106435470
>I don't think you can use it to change to Windows 10 IoT LTSC though
Good riddance, that shit's on an older kernel that doesn't work with a lot of software

>>106435470
nice thanks

The only good usable desktop OS is LXQT+Openbox and this is someone who has tried nearly all linux desktops including tiling wm's. LXQT has a good clean fast sleek desktop and openbox as the wm allows you to do keybinds, put windows where you want them and its a great wm. Is it perfect? No. The autoselect on the application start menu is slow and I have to disable it, you cant set it to 1ms instant select. I think it is hard capped at 10ms and thats not snappy enough for me.

KDE plasma sucks so bad.
It has a useless store filled with shtity lag stuttering SVG icon themes and malware window decorations
It's slow and uses wayland
The shortcuts and opening of programs is slow
swapping windows is slow.

Ive been on LXQT with arch for around 6 months because its the only good linux distro that for me is just vanilla and works. No I don't like systemd but what can you do? I guess install gentoo and buy a threadripper CPU but there's no other distro that has this. Should I just swap to gentoo?

>>106435580
Plasma supports X11. Also:
>complains about Plasma themes
>uses the least themable DE instead

>>106435607
Plasma 6 the audio sliders are buggy and laggy and this is not a hardware problem.

I tested it on my main PC and my steam deck, both systems the audio sliders lag. It's plasma 6's fault.

My point thought wasn't about customizing or theming, the point was that LXQT is fast and snappy, openbox is incredibly fast and snappy in LXQT for window switching and display. It's literally instant. Compare that to cinnamon or KDE plasma where it takes a second. And plasma 6 is slow, much slower than plasma 5. I remember in plasma 5 when I set animations to none, when I switched windows with alt tab it was instant. Now in plasma 6 its slow.

>>106435637
That doesn't sound right. Are you using a dual core?

>>106431720
Anon, thanks, I'm retarded. The fucking interface has a big ass knob... well, you need to turn all the way up every time you boot. So, that was the problem.

>>106435637
>It's plasma 6's fault.
SteamOS is still on Plasma 5.

>>106435637
DEs shouldn't affect application launch times unless you're running out of RAM.
>>106435679
The better question is if he's on 2 GiB of RAM.

>>106431176
That OP pic is LITERALLY me.
I use Win10IoT on one PC and KDE Plasma on my other device, both are comfy as hell.

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KDE is ugly, gnome looks the best and has the best apps.

How can I make gnome boxes VMs properly detect resolution?

>>106434632
I have udev and it seems to be working, it creates for example the enumerated device files under /dev/input - Anyways, I got input working other way so whatever. For elogind I guess I'd need dbus too. I don't have dbus or pam or anything really. Desktop seems to be working decently now anyways without those.

>>106435741
SteamOS 3.714 is on Plasma 6.2.5

>>106434874
>they were playing their games then suddenly they ran out of memory.
which they would have even faster without any sort of swap, which is what you get with base arch. Not sure what your point is here.

>>106435580
>The autoselect on the application start menu is slow and I have to disable it
Just use KRunner.

>KDE adds a 22 year old feature request
Damn

>>106436117
A desktop adding features? What's the use case!?

>>106436080
>which is what you get with base arch
weird. never used the arch install scripts, they really don't make a swap partition? the wiki install guide definitely includes it

>>106436123
I want my 25 year old feature request per directory zoom levels...

How well does FSR4 work on 7000 series under linux?
Want to switch to linux because they apparently hired jews at amd and made it unable to run in windows

>>106436134
>install scripts,
no one cares about those
>the wiki install guide definitely includes it
that's an example and you don't have to follow it. They also tell you that you could use a swap file or set up zram as well.

>>106436174
come on now
>which is what you get with base arch
is not the same as
>which is one of the options presented to you and you have to make a decision
is not the same as
>the operating system maintainer decided for you and you weren't told about it

don't be disingenuous and I'll stop being incredulous.

kde feels unfinished. more so than gnome.

>check GNU/Linux on jailbroken PS4s eons ago
>"looks interesting, hope they make a proper distro with proper drivers"
>check today
>still shitty pseudo-distros with outdated kernels and unstable drivers
sigh...

Why do I have a .steam folder and also a steam folder in .local/share/ ? For example the games are same for both of the directories.

can i dualboot linux and use all of the shit i have on windows?
i want to try it first before i make the switch

>>106436554
It's a symbolic link that exists for legacy compatibility reasons.

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This madness never ends. Now I managed to compile and install a web browser, next thing I need is ca-certificates, as you can see 4chan is broken because of TLS errors. Why the fuck does ca-certificates require rust?

>>106436826
Jesus Christ this is why: https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/current/pkgsrc/security/py-cryptography/index.html

>>106431260
this is a feature they added, macos does this too

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>>106431176
guys i... i finally did it... i fully set up my mint now. i finally get it. i understand why you sperg freaks do this. i love this. this is so fucking awesome. i will never go back>>106431297

>>106436823
ah, thanks

>>106436061
Huh, not only did I not notice the SteamDeck was already on KDE6, I didn't even notice the volume slider scrollbar bug existed. On the Deck you'd always just use the volume buttons. Same on desktop if you're connected with bt headphones. (And I always just scroll over the volume icon when not using bt headphones).
I have no idea how they could fuck up a simple scrollbar/slider.

Shill me on anythong other than Mint Cinnamon

>>106437061
debian + xfce

>>106436237
I've never used gnome but KDE crashes so fucking much more compared to Windows. It's almost daily crashes on Plasma while it was like once a month on Windows.

>>106437061
I just installed Debian 13 with Gnome on a Toshiba laptop from 2012 and everything works perfectly out of the box

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What if I think both are cringe?

After some trial and error I found out that by plugging my headphones it also automutes the speakers, but I want to switch manually between the two without having to physically plug them in and out everytime, and most importantly the internet was unhelpful. Pls help

>>106431410
so why arent you using virt-manager?

>>106435580
cinnamon.

>>106430980
>perhaps there's a tool you can use to sniff i2c traffic in windows using whatever tool you're "supposed" to use to turn off the lights
>transparent side
My machine has no windows in both senses, the lights are coming out the back vents and my machine isn't against a wall. There's always Wine, I suppose. It worked surprisingly well for running a chinese .exe file to access USB serial hardware once I added a shortcut to the port, I imagine there's a similar process for I2C ports.

Why do so many people online act like arch will just randomly break? I've been using it for quite a while now and the only "breakage" I've run into happens when I the use try to change things I frankly have no business changing, for example I switched from systemd boot to limine and fucked up my boot entry so I had to manually boot back into arch. But when I speak with people who use "stable" distros like debian they act like if you look at arch the wrong way it breaks

>>106437653
It's a meme

Anyone here have experience with Lightroom replacement for Sony and Fuji RAWs? Will it ever come even close to LrC experience on either Windows or Mac?

>>106437653
it's likely just from new linux users who try it first because it's become quite popular, and either misuse it (like do partial upgrades) or mess with things they don't know enough about. that and it's likely repeated by people who don't use linux and have just heard it breaks if you look at it wrong

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>>106434017
After some more digging, it seems the stuff about expired keys was a red herring. It turns out newer kernels are under "linux-image". However, if I try to boot to this through Lilo, I get stuck here.

The main concern is that I can't get a desktop environment running here. Logs show something about no mouse input loading, even though it worked just fine on Sarge.

This is on VirtualBox, if that matters.

>>106432881
of being turned off
we have got sentient desktops before AI!

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>run Debian
>boot up PC
>step away from computer for a second
>come back
>computer booting up into Windows for some reason
>wtf.jpg
>turn off computer
>reboot
>starts booting up into Windows again
>go to BIOS menu
>make sure Debian is first in the boot order
>it is
>apply changes anyway
>computer boots into Debian
What happened here? I want to assume it's some Windows fuckery, but I haven't booted into Windows all week.

>>106437946
maybe it's windows fastboot.

>>106437946
What's your bootloader situation?

>>106437958
I turned that shit off because I was having trouble accessing my music collection on my Windows drive from Debian.
>>106437964
Grub. Aside from adding the splash screen and changing the graphics driver to amdgpu, I haven't touched it.

>>106437989
>I turned that shit off because I was having trouble accessing my music collection on my Windows drive from Debian.
that's because windows goes into hibernation instead of actually turning off, making you unable to access the files

>>106437110
Just install gnome, retard.

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>>106436638
Yes.
>>106436877
Mint sucks, delete it.
>>106437061
Install Ultramarine Linux. (Not in VM because it's bugged)
>>106437653
Because most arch users use AUR.
>>106437815
ART is probably the best one for now.

>>106438081
Use case for the terra repos?

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>>106438118
Just extra stuff. Also pretty sure they are looking to replace RPM fusion in the future.

>>106437110
>It's almost daily crashes on Plasma
Why are you lying?

>>106438163
>extra stuff
Like what?

>>106438051
It looks ugly as sin tho
>>106438376
Why would I lie?

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>>106438376
>>106438690
Screenshot for proof

>>106438462
Umu-launcher, legcord

>>106438690
If you think gnome is uglier than kde you are blind, I agree with gtk3, but gtk4 looks great.

>>106438796
>Umu-launcher
Can I double click exe files from my file explorer like with Wine?

>>106424718
did not work

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It seems like the preferred distro and DE changes every month. Prove you're not a FOTM fag. What's your distro? How long have you been with it? And why should I install it over the holiday to test games on it?

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This is going to sound retarded but, is there any Fedora or Debian Live ISO that ONLY offers a CLI? I want to check if I'm able to connect to my WiFi network without any bike wheels, long term plan is setting up a custom installation from the ground up.
>>106438994
Fedora, for 3 years. Has stored a lot of cruft from muy retardation yet still just werks
>>106438163
>Allso pretty sure they are looking to replace RPM fusion in the future
Proof?

>>106437653
AUR. Packages on base Arch have mildly annoying bugs at worst 99% of the time. It's third party retardation like AUR and Nvidia's Kmods (though less so lately) that shit the bed. Use Flatpak or a Distrobox container.

>>106439037
There's a CLI edition of Raspbian so I'm sure one exists for Debian. As for Fedora, I think that's what Fedora Core OS is meant to be.

>>106435759
I'm on a 5600x+RX 580 with 16gb of ddr4 ram.

Dolphin just feels sluggish and plasma as a whole feels so half way underdeveloped and buggy.

Cinnamon is alright but nemo is one of the worst file pickers on linux and its SLOW as FUCK. Just so happens its the default and BAKED IN to linux mint....hooray, No using linux mint I guess.

Seems like arch+ vanilla LXQT is where I'll stay with openbox. Does everything I need and pcmanfm is fucking god tier and fast with thumbnails. Everything just werks.

>>106437946
Debian was dead to me first when they said they hated white white men

It was dead to me second when they killed off systemd and decides to go fully woke

It was dead to me a third time when they decided to package their own software in their desktops like LXQT, Cinnamon and break COMPLETELY from upstream. They do this on the standard vanilla desktop enivornment packages. Even if you install debian with NOTHING, just the bare minimum the default desktop environments are enshittified with their shitty package choices and bloat like xterm and anthy among other random shit. Their LXQT build has XFECESWM4 as their window manager instead of the default upstream openbox.


Fuck debian. I spit on their gay ass distro that tries to make decisions for me that are objectively terrible.

>>106439119
I hate Debian because it defaults to ext4 and I don't know how to install it with btrfs

>>106439037
>Proof?
https://github.com/terrapkg/packages/issues/2212

>>106437946
Them gnooomes, ha-ha-ha-ha!

>>106436864
I don't know why people like using microscopic cursors. Retarded, masochistic trend they got people into, kek

I set my cursor to size 3 in Winhoes, 2 in Ubuntu. Never too small, never too large, never lose it except when the OS bugs up a bit, but I get that on any OS once in while. Even my old man has occasionally called me for help when his Macbookpro bugs up in similar fashions.

>>106438808
I guess yeah if you change the file association with WINEPREFIX=/path/to/pfx GAMEID=0 umu-run but you probably shouldn't be using a single prefix

>>106439336
I don't know what a wine prefix is. Do I have to do this for every application?

>>106439343
not him, but you can think of a wine prefix as a "windows installation", like it contains the dos drives (namely "C:") along with a windows file structure and core libraries that make up a "windows installation", the registry, and wine-specific configuration pertaining to said "windows installation".
you can use a single prefix for all windows software you use, but in some cases you may wish to configure a prefix one way for one application, and another way for another application, like what additional software you install in it (vcredist's, dll overrides, reported windows version, etc), so it's usually safest to use a prefix per-program. they do take up a few hundred megs of space though, so if you don't deduplicate them they can add up.

>>106439343
If you don't know then you should probably be using a gui launcher.

>>106431217
fpbp
op is a faggot

>>106439343
>I don't know what a wine prefix is
Think of it like a virtual environment wine/proton interacts with, a fake c drive if you will
>Do I have to do this for every application
You should do it at least once during the installation, if it creates a .desktop shortcut it'll already point to the correct prefix, anyways >>106439369 this

any systemd enjoyers here? I've done ridiculous things with it for automating things and it's great but the limit most people seem to reach is just starting services written by other people that have no depencencies and don't use sd_notify.

>>106439444
I less enjoy it and more just live with it.

>>106439382
>You should do it at least once during the installation, if it creates a .desktop shortcut it'll already point to the correct prefi
Okay so how do I set up vanilla wine to use proton-ge

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>>106437890
So it turns out kernel 2.6 was giving me trouble, but kernel 2.4 is able to load the desktop environment, albeit without sound.

Wut.

>>106439447
I'm saying I couldn't live without it. It's too useful and reliable. Just start single targets with absurd amounts of complexity handled because past me wrote targets and services and they just work.

>>106439477
systemd service files are definitely quite good I agree.

>>106439448
Just download bottles or faugus-launcher.

>>106439519
No, I just want to do it cleanly without bloat. I'm not an idiot, I just want the non-retarded way to do things.

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>>106439483
like for example I decided to make a template service that enforces a jack connection between two ports and encode the name in the instance name. Services and targets can require/conflict/want connections so that my audio signal chain gets setup exactly how I want, and it enforces the connections. I don't patch anything manually. Just tell it I want microphone.target or wireless-audio.target and it sets up everything reliably every day. It also handles snmp traps and power outlet enforcement for rack audio gear. Basically declarative config for everything required. Definitely not normal systemd usage.

>>106439522
The clean way is to use a gui, very rarely do people use wine directly, it's not very conviniet. Using a gui is how I learned how wine works, launching the gui from terminal shows what's it doing. If you want something more minimal then I suggest you check out winezgui.

>>106439565
So is bottles going to be retarded and require me to launch the bottles GUI itself every time I want to run Windows apps, or can I just double click an exe in my file explorer and load it up instantly a la normal Wine?

>>106439056
Core OS uses their inmutable meme tech and 90% sure strips out hardware support. isn't a regular install like you could get using the Everything ISO. Seems like I'll have to just bite the bullet, get a normal live ISO and bootstrap the whole thing through DNF. Grub and LUKS completely filter me, though. Groups/users, locales, repos, partitioning it's all fine, but I can never make those two retarded shits to work in real hardware.

>>106439603
I think you can double click with it, im on my phone right now and am to lazy to check.

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>>106439477

I'm thinking of finally making the transition to Linux after being sick of microsoft and apple. I'm looking for a distro that hasn't been tainted by MtF transsexuals.

>>106439522

WINEPREFIX=$HOME/pfx/game PROTONPATH=GE-Proton GAMEID=0 (if it's here https://umu.openwinecomponents.org/index.php replace 0 with the ID, launchers do this automatically) umu-run "/path/to/setup.exe"

When it's done check the .desktop shortcut it created, if the Exec line says wine replace it with PROTONPATH=GE-Proton GAMEID=0 umu-run, that's it

>>106439821
openMandriva

>>106439855
Why do I need to create a .desktop shortcut? With wine I can download any exe, extract it to any folder, and run directly.

blackarch sounds cool. Is it cool?

>>106439768
amazing. I probably ran arch for months before systemd was added. I never knew how shit it was before that. All solved problems now for me.

>>106439880
IIRC it's like Kali Linux but if it was based on Arch instead.

>>106439885
same, was when I was just getting into linux, probably ran ubuntu for a few years before switching to arch then came back to it after systemd was integrated and learned everything I know about systemd from the wiki. someone really put a lot of effort into the arch wiki for systemd

>>106439894
I did a deep deep dive on the systemd man pages around 2015 and it mindfucked me into someone who uses them more than 99.9% of linux users or something. I can't understand how people don't write their own units now.

>>106439878
You are running it with default settings.

>>106439916
Yeah, and I want to change that default behaviour ONCE AND FOREVER instead of making a .desktop file for each application. The whole point of Unix is that you can automate anything.

>>106439878
>With wine I can download any exe, extract it to any folder, and run directly
If you mean double clicking the exe everything will run on the default wine prefix ~/.wine

>>106439923
see this is one of the things. I never use desktop files. I never click thing. I start systemd services/targets instead. desktop files are completely foreign to me. I'lll start chromium@default.service or catia.service isntead from a cli

>>106439939
Okay so how do systemd services help me run Sonic Adventure DX: Director's Cut through wine with proton-ge

>>106439923
Shortcuts are dropped on ~/Desktop when you install something, you don't need to create them, just edit them if you want the latest proton-ge. If you change the file association to exe with umu everything will run opening exes but on one prefix which is not ideal

Kind of random, but does anyone have that picture of 3 girls pressing their asses together to make the ubuntu logo?

>>106439946
look I really wish I could care about that use case, but I just use separate computers for that. Gaming bullshit can be done in windows. I'm not a purist. I tried it, they made using pcie express passthrough detected as cheating. I had a multihead arch linux host with multiple vms running games at the same time. It was great. That was like... 2021? I gave up on doing gaming from arch linux because its easier to separate it by buying more hardware. Sorry I don't have solutions for you.

>>106439965
>when you install something
Well, two things:
>I want to change the default shortcut behaviour
>This shortcut stuff doesn't make a bit of difference for portable apps

>>106439987
Create ~/.local/share/applications/umu.desktop

[Desktop Entry]
Name=UMU
Exec=env PROTONPATH=GE-Proton GAMEID=0 umu-run %f
Type=Application
NoDisplay=true
MimeType=application/x-ms-dos-executable;

xdg-mime default umu-run.desktop application/x-ms-dos-executable 
update-desktop-database ~/.local/share/applications

>>106440080
>umu-run.desktop
umu.desktop

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When will fractional scaling on gnome be a non-expiremental feature? KDE seems to work just fine now.

>>106439856
kek

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Made a systemd timer that fires certbot up monthly. What are some ways of making it restart the interwebs service after success?
Another question: the web server in question is Lighttpd and requires a restart after the key change. Are other web servers smarter than this?

>>106438994
>What's your distro?
Bazzite
>How long have you been with it?
2 years
>why should I install it over the holiday to test games on it?
It's the only distro I've used which is well set-up ootb and where there's 0 issues that creep up after a year of using it

>>106438994
>What's your distro?
Ubuntu and Debian on different computers
>How long have you been with it?
I tried them on and off for years but now I've been Linux-only for about 1.5 years
>And why should I install it over the holiday to test games on it?
Ubuntu just works. Codecs are included out of the box. Tons of software is in the universe repo. I think something like Bazzite limits you to installing Flatpak apps (I think you can install RPM apps as well but it's a bit more difficult because Bazzite is immutable). With Ubuntu you can still install Flatpak apps if you want, as well as anything from the Ubuntu repos. And sometimes you might come across a program on GitHub which doesn't come as a Flatpak but it does come as a DEB package, so you can install it on Ubuntu.

If you do want Ubuntu and you have very recent hardware then maybe you should get the latest, non-LTS version of Ubuntu (25.04). But really just install the distro that you think is best for you. Maybe something like Bazzite would be better for you, I dunno, I haven't used it myself, I've just watched videos about it. If you have recent hardware then maybe search the internet for the minimum kernel version you need for that hardware.

Surely another KDE theme for the next OP

Can I just download online installers for shit and install it manually on Linux or fo I have to use some gay app store

>>106440462
>KDE seems to work just fine now.
There are horizontal lines appearing at some fractional scales like 115%

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>>106440773
First you check package management (your distro' repositories), second option is Flatpak/Snap, then you go for downloading shit which can be AppImage or standalone program (essentially a same thing as AppImage) and lastly you can try compiling from source codes.

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>>106440773
App stores are optional and not all distros even have one. Picrel is the installing from distro repositories option.

Is archlinux arm worth using on my rpi or are the devs struggling to keep packages updated?

>>106439119
>Debian
>It was dead to me second when they killed off systemd and decides to go fully woke
Uh, what? Are you hallucinating? I'm starting to think the rest of your post is all made-up as well.

>>106440775
I stick to 125 and 150 like on windows. thats all i really want for linux is just working fractional scaling, KDE seems to have it the best but there are still minor bugs here and there

>>106440885
>>106440862
>>106440823
>>106440804
>>106440793
Do yiu guys have useful bash commands?

mine would have to be being able to see error logs of crash application

>sudo systemctl restart $1 && sudo journalctl -fu $1 -n 50

>>106435256
TLDR is sparse and is made of contributions and is not standardized, And only includes the flags and options that the submitter finds useful.

>>106440909
As opposed to a barf of unrelated options which don't help the user get to know what the tool does.
Also
>not standardized
Fucking lmao. As if man pages are standardized. I've seen so many variations on man page usage. They're everything but standardized.

>>106440898
Ur command doesnt work? am i doing something wrong anon

>>106439153
Debian lets you install with btrfs last time i tried it just doesnt let you set up subvols. It'll only make one subvol for root and that's it.

>>106440941
>>106440940
>>106440932
Do u guys not use bash?

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evenin gents, I'm new to linux and decided to go with arch. So I'm running this on an old laptop and no matter what I do I can't get hyprland to detect my gpu, any ideas on how to deal with this nvidia optimus case?

>>106441008
what r u fav bas commands? and r u trans? lot of colors scream AGP to me :3

>>106441008
have you tried the nvidia-dkms drivers? i find them a lot more stable

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>>106431176
Windows 10 shitters think they are not the joke of the world.

Look Windows10 was the death of windows and is spyware. If you are not on linux you can as well go full spyware with 11.

I quit windows when 8 did come out.Linux mint exists!

>>106440932
I didn't mean to upset you.

>>106441016
I have no idea what any of what you said means

>>106441016
rn my favorite command has got to be fastfetch, sorry I literally just started fresh today so idk much, and no I'm not trans

>>106441028
I tried, but lost direction once I got into installing bottles and lutris, I wanted to run my moeges, best I got was being able to run the game with working audio, window, but just a black screen. I got tired of all the workarounds that I just wanted to start all over

>>106441082
You should get set of tools to build up especially when you have cache build up from old programs and stuff.


https://github.com/monorhenry-create/Thunderbolt-Cache-Cleaner

>>106440538
>What are some ways of making it restart the interwebs service after success?
If you put that certbot in a script, you can just add whatever you want.
Or, if you prefer to use systemd fuckery, there is an ExecPost or something similar you could use.
Are other web servers smarter than this?
Nope, but if you like systemd fuckery, you could add a file watcher that triggers a restart if the key changed.

>>106441038
You dumb retarded nigger faggot it doesn't matter what OS you use when your entire computer is a backdoor to every glowie agency if your cpu has intel ME or AMD PSP you are compromised and you can keep coping and seething and making up bullshit but it is the truth and you can't handle it

>>106439471
Do the kernel configs differ? /boot/config-something files

>>106441222
Why does this retard imply that I disagree with him?

>>106440764
>I think something like Bazzite limits you to installing Flatpak apps
Completely false
>(I think you can install RPM apps as well but it's a bit more difficult because Bazzite is immutable).
Again, if you don't know what you're talking about then don't spread misinformation. Installing system packages is identical on atomic distros, while uninstalling them is even more convenient than it is on Ubuntu.
>sometimes you might come across a program on GitHub which doesn't come as a Flatpak but it does come as a DEB package, so you can install it on Ubuntu.
You can install deb packages on any distribution that supports distrobox, which is pretty much every distribution. This includes Bazzite.

>>106439821
Kubuntu

>>106441028
There's more options than DKMS for Nvidia drivers?
>>106441211
>Nope, but if you like systemd fuckery, you could add a file watcher that triggers a restart if the key changed.
Cool, I prefer the systemd fuckery.

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>particular application stops working from start menu
>try launching with terminal, just self terminates
>try launching from desktop shortcut
>it works fine
>its the exact same command

>>106439821
There's no such thing. Trannies are all over the place in software development. Best you can do is use as much software as possible that's written by people who are publicly anti-trans, but this software is often shit compared to alternatives.

>>106441418
apt update
apt upgrade
apt reinstall package_name

>>106431238
works well on my machine. tranny skill issue

Bake at pg8?

>>106441357
>Completely false
>Again, if you don't know what you're talking about then don't spread misinformation. Installing system packages is identical on atomic distros, while uninstalling them is even more convenient than it is on Ubuntu.
You have to use rpmostree or something instead of dnf right? I heard that it's not as easy as using dnf

>You can install deb packages on any distribution that supports distrobox, which is pretty much every distribution. This includes Bazzite.
Surely using a container is going to cost you in performance. And more disk space will be taken up because you'll have lots of dependencies from multiple distros, I assume

Anyway I literally said "install the distro that you think is best for you" and "maybe something like Bazzite would be better for you".

I bought a second-hand laptop with Win11 and set up grub for dual boot via the Manjaro installer.
After being logged into Windows for a while, I shut the laptop down to boot into Linux, but instead of grub, I was welcome by the win*ows login. With a win*ows tool, I can see the grub partition on the harddrive, but the computer just doesn't boot into it, but directly to Win instead.
I have no idea what to do with this, so that it boots to grub and this doesn't change again after logging into win*ows.

>>106441944
What's your primary boot partition in your UEFI/BIOS?

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>>106441927
>I heard that it's not as easy as using dnf
It's literally 1:1, aside from the fact that the default GUI doesn't let you use rpm-ostree. But in the terminal the only difference between "apt install vlc", "dnf install vlc" and "rpm-ostree install vlc" is the fact that "rpm-ostree" has 7 extra characters.
>Surely using a container is going to cost you in performance
There's 0 overhead in performance. The only overhead is the extra RAM used for your guest distro, which is usually around 25MB-1GB, depending on the distro.
Estimates say that only less than 10% of people have 8GB RAM or less, where this would actually matter. Sure, it's not ideal to lose 1GB of RAM just to run a non-native application, but each additional .deb app would just attach itself to the existing guest and wouldn't consume any extra RAM.
>more disk space will be taken up because you'll have lots of dependencies from multiple distros
That's the price of software compatibility. Almost all proprietary software, and most open source software bundles it's own required dependencies rather than relying on your system's dependencies. And, of course, any and all abandonware would require you to run it in a container anyways.
For decades we've had this song and dance of autists complaining about duplicated dependencies, and yet time and time again it's proven that the overwhelming majority of people don't give a shit about this if it means more software compatibility. Wine/Proton are the living proof of this, as they're basically a 700MB Windows environment (multiplied for each additional version/prefix of Wine/Proton)
Not to mention the "storage waste" issue is completely overstated by people. The worst case scenario is a user having 100 large apps, all being Appimage or Flatpak. And in this scenario you'd use up an additional 8GB -12GB of space. Which is pretty much nothing unless you're on a device with a 32GB-64GB drive.

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>>106441944
Maybe your boot order got switched, hit F11 or whatever key that gets you to the boot menu.
>>106442122
There are no "boot partitions" or "boot drives" in UEFI boot scheme.

>>106442200
>Maybe your boot order got switched, hit F11 or whatever key that gets you to the boot menu.
Grub is not an option there anymore.

>>106442282
Did you manually attempt too boot into Windows at some point? Microsoft has been cracking down on dual booters and corrupts grub if it's detected on the same drive as Windows.

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>>106442282
Picture relates?
Boot up any live installer USB stick or whatever you got, inspect the EFI system partition contents and possibly recreate the entry. GRUB doesn't need any boot arguments so you'd just

efibootmgr -c -d /dev/your_device -p $partition_number_in_question -l \\EFI\$your_distro\grubx64.efi -L "Hannah Montana Linux"

>>106431176
I'm only just getting into the FLOSS tech world and I've realized that my desktop computer uses a proprietary firmware BIOS/UEFI. How bad is this? I need a stronger/newer motherboard/cpu/gpu to play my vidya gaems, ai, and 3d modelling, and I worry that with the core of my PC being proprietary it kind of invalidates the FLOSS aspects of the kernel or my distribution when I'm compromised from the get-go. How do I cope with this? Would using a floss distro with LUKS encryption make my userspace files safe from my spyware BIOS owned and controlled by CIA?

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>>106431176
KDE hasn't been good since KDE3, it was awesome at the time, though i still prefer more minimalist desktops myself, starting KDE4 it's been barely anything else than Gnome envy + a couple nice visual things but no encompassing design philosophy