How to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Case Studies, etc.):https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archive, Books & Papers, Music Editorial, etc.):https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18• Tanchjim Bunny (Mild U) - $20• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (V-shape) - $35• Kiwi Ears Cadenza (Mild V) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120• HiBy M300 - $200>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>106405948
/iemg/ Dogma Check Tired of the hivemind? Here’s your prescribed sanity dose:>Crinacle is not your priest.Rankings are a guide, not divine scripture. Your ears > his spreadsheet.>Harman ≠ perfect.It’s a preference curve, not a law of physics. Some genres need deviation.>Chi-Fi isn’t magic.Great value, yes. Immune to qc issues and hype cycles? Nah.>Graphs are not sound.They don’t show staging, dynamics, or fit. Use your ears, not just squigs.>BA ≠ metallic, DD ≠ perfect.Implementation matters more than driver type. Always has.>Meme sets aren’t the whole hobby.If it’s not shilled 24/7, it might still be good. It's highly encouraged to form an original opinion.>Disagreeing ≠ cope or deaf.Let people like what they like without foaming at the mouth.>Loud posts =/= smart takes.Confidence without experience is just noise. Show graphs, impressions, or both.This has been your scheduled break from pos groupthink.
Checking back in after I became a speakerfag 6 months agoHas my collection of pos become obsolete yet?>Simgot EA500>Aful Performer 5>Kiwi Ears Cadenza>Moondrop Dawn Pro (1)
>>106438845I know this is not the general for it, but now that I got my mega5est's, do you guys have any cheap but still decent mic recommendations ? Best cost benefit possible on the lower end if possible.
>>106439244everything is obsolete if you don't use eq
New to IEMS, are there any good planars?
>>106439316no real benefits to using them, but there are a few decent ones
>>106439275well what mic? usb for computer, fifine chinkshit is shilled, i guess it's prob fine for the price. if you mean in-line on the wire they're not very good. celest bundles a boom mic style one with some iems and sells it by itself
>>106439455USB would be better. Any ideas?
Been redoing HTL training with 3 dB peaks and dips, and as I talked about before, it gets exponentially harder past level 4. Reaching level 6 is much, much harder than reaching level 9 in the usual test.
>>106438845Thinking about buying the sennheiser Momentum TW4s. Redpill me on them.
>>106439670uuhhh /hsg/?
>>106439670
>>106439673of course not.>>106439676
>>106428539I chose the zero2 (Type C), thx!, If I see that IEM's for me I might get to try the DACs as well.
>>106439673wait do you even know what you're looking at in this rack? lmao
So do we know by now if Daybreak and P50 are the same pos/EPZ is Crinear's OEM?
Anyone know what's a good replacement for my TKZK Ouranos? I'm on my 3rd one and the right side sounds lower right now. Is the conch good enough? I'd rather have something that sounds closest to a MDRV6 if I can but something close to an Ouranos would be fine as well.
>>106439244Pre-obsoleted by fox IEM.
>>106440515you need to die, painfully preferably>>106439492anyone? It seems like a waste of cash but I have heard sennheisers are realiable
>>106440473I cleaned the gunk from the filter and that seemed to fix it. Still would like some recommendations though. already have a kz edx pro that I alternate but I'd like to have a backup for why my Ouranos dies since it already has cracks on the shell.
>>106440571>twshitter can't handle fox IEMLmao.
>>106438845imagine hooking something up to a vacuum tube and then sticking it into your ear canal kek
has someone chopped one of these up yet to see if it's real?
The collab between Hiby and Hatsune Miku is this DAP here, look like the Hiby R3 Pro II combine with the old walkman a35 miku edition, I love itThe IEM hasn't been reveal yet tho.( I would've say it's the r3 pro ii but it's Hibydigital, not Hiby so it might be a new dap
I have in fact abandoned true wireless and gone back to wired headphones. Spent months sourcing a pair of Momentum in-ear from Japan lol. I also got several Sony Walkmans with built-in ANC piping to wired earbuds, and imo they easily sound better than any true wireless product up to $200.True wireless is a huge source of electronic trash. Extra batteries, short shelf life/designed to be unrepairable. Railway workers in Japan have to pick up from the tracks, dozens of them falling out of people's ears each day, they even invented special contraptions for this. You can't be green or sensible and still use one of these things, that's just hypocrisy at the highest level. And - even LDAC is not as good as a physical cable. I'm just gonna say it. These 6-8 years was just one big running around for nothing, My answer is I've gone back to the wired earphones I'd been using before all this and I'm happy as a clam. Should have never fallen for the true wireless con.True wireless is nice some of the time, but I also realized later on that I only "can't tolerate cable" when I'm having low-energy days. It's a great reminder to work on my health.
>>106441953ehh I love my tws when I'm exercisingand when I'm doing shit that needs 2 hands and I want some music to drone out the boredom
>>106439730you turn them knobs - trial and error
>>106439730Hiss blaster 9000.
>>106441212They're real pisces of shit.
What's the most efficient way to spend my money on some almost disposable levels of wireless bluetooth IEMs (not earbuds).>BudgetAround 30$.>Intended useListening to podcasts and any kind of music.>Frequency ResponseDon't care either way as long as they're cheap.
>>106442351space travel?
>>106442351>What's the most efficient way to spend my money on some almost disposable levels of wireless bluetooth IEMshttps://www.scarbir.com/tws/soundpeats-t3-pro-reviewLess than $15 on Aliexpress
Just copped the artti t10sAnyone had experience with them?
I really really like these, but the QC not so much; the first pair I got had really bad channel imbalance.anyone knows where to get one with better QC across the board? I don't mind paying a premium as I really like these.
>>106442565should have gotten the KZ ZSX Pro
>>106442617I'll try them next. any recommendations on where to get them from?
Impressions after using Palavox Akasha over the weekend:TLDR: Mid-forward, extremely wide-sounding, shrill air-maxxing pos with literally no mid-bass. >TimbreAkasha has this really clean and analytical tuning to it as a result of having zero mid-bass impact. Upper-mids and treble energy causes the Akasha to be shrill-sounding with lots of air/shimmer. But it is not lean-sounding, A/Bing with something like the Helios, you can tell the Akasha does have relatively thick lower-mids to it, but most of the time it is overpowered with its shrillness.>BassNo idea why Palavox even bothered putting a DD. Akasha has zero mid-bass. As for subbass, the Akasha does have BCD drivers which gives a slight hint of subbass rumble and texture. Bass on the Akasha is best described as ‘rumble with no slam/decay’.>Uppermids/TrebleAkasha is quite the shrill pos, but because of its late pinna gain, it’s not shouty – female vocals have this breathy texture, and the midrange has this glassy sheen to it. The Akasha has tons of air and is very extended – much better than the Helios.>SoundstageOne of its strong points. Very wide-sounding. Comparable to Storm in that regard.>ConsNoteweight for lower-register instruments is a real problem area: the lack of mid-bass punch and slam makes bass guitar sound really anemic; you can barely make out the strumming. It’s impossible to hear the initial “thump” on the jazz drums so all you get is the constant shimmering of cymbals/snares. I wouldn’t use the Akasha for instrumentals because Akasha just lacks that initial slam to give instruments authority.>ProsDetail monster with great separation for busy/fast electronic tracks or female poison genres like jpop/kpop. Transients are sharp and fast, and the lack of mid-bass bloom/decay allows you to scrutinize details in the music. Verdict: Very unique tuning and worth demo-ing for the experience. Canjam goers should make an effort to audition this pos if possible.
which normie tws to downgrade my fox tws to?
>>106440473take the filters out entirely or buy new filters. ouranos is a way better pos than what its basic harman tuning shows. it's one of my favorite pos and as far as a1DD upgrade from that...kind of hard to say when EA500LM exists. >>106442671don't listen to him. ZSX is actually still pretty fun in 2025, but Hydro exists.
why is epz g10 so good, bros?
Let me guess, you need more?
>>106442952I like these well enough.
>>106442929ok nigga... now cable/source/tip/rock roll and do a 180 with your opinion
>>106440700Imagine having sex. And then imagine having sex with a woman.
>>106443359Yes.
>>106443671what is a womanwhat is sex
>>106433662Can anyone recommend me something PLEASE, TANGZU SUCKS
>>106444292but the chart looks good!!!
>>106444321Tangzu is good, it's just that the qc is shit, and I need more bass desu, just a tad bit more
>>106444444
Can anyone help with white noise/hiss? I'm hearing it constantly while using Kefine Klean and Fiio JA11 on OnePlus 11. I've lowered device volume to 40 using the Fiio Control app, but the white noise is still audible especially during quieter parts of songs. The DAC adapter also gets disconnected from time to time, I'm not sure if that's just the app acting up but the white noise doesn't get louder when it happens. What other DAC should I get to eliminate this?
>>106445268you got fiio'd, tough luck
Endgame with totl techs
>>106444344just EQ?????
>>106445503eq is cope, and no one reads the guideeqtards will never learn
>>106444344>qc is shitWhat does this even mean? Are you afraid it's going to just fall apart? It seems pretty appropriate for $20. I've heard some complaints about the cable, but that's about it.>needs more bassSo just add a low shelf filter w/ EQ.
>>106445298I'm aware, that's not really helpful.
>>106445420wild take. t10 pro is under $100 and is objectively better. pr2 is known to be holographic and can be had for $24
>>106445571you don't need a guide to add 5dB bass shelf
>>106445420zogslop
>>106445764>pr2got mine for 0 (zero) dollary-doos on aliexpress dot com
>>106446958lucky fuck
>>106447022protip check local shipping page at 3am and get the $10 voucher
>>1064472933am 4chan time i mean
/iemg/ is dead, long live /hpg/
>>106448060our shills rest during weekends, nigga. /hpg/ is literally dead if the OP stops bumping past 10 PM
Tututu~~Connected! Shii... Hmm?Disconnected...
>>106439670goals
>>106448140That's only because europoors can't afford headphones.
>>106438845WTB:IEM with good sound quality (preferably Harmann or with a bit more vibrant sound particularly over bassier frequencies), think like the DT1990sBudget is anywhere up to 1000$, but lower is preferable and sensible choices are preferred unless a clear concise justification can be given for a pricier product.It needs to seat well in my ears even if I take it motorcycling without a helmet at high speeds.If it supports a TWS module to use on the gym, then all the better.
>>106448940>It needs to seat well in my ears even if I take it motorcycling without a helmet at high speeds.this would have been the hardest requirement if you were to wear a helmet as there are few iems that sit flush with the earassuming you are not able to use eq, you are limited to the chopin, nova, and supermix4 as the defacto harman iems, but all are relatively bulky and do not sit well in the earmaybe try the elua ultra, relatively very cheap and is useful for getting a feel on harman
>>106449022I didn't mean it that way, but rather, something that is guaranteed not to come off my ears if I go too fast because of wind. Or worse, something that is incapable of blocking wind noise at higher speeds.
>>106449159>something that is guaranteed not to come off my ears if I go too fast because of windthis shouldn't be much of an issue>Or worse, something that is incapable of blocking wind noise at higher speeds.this is VERY hard, and is caused by the same issue that i described with wearing helmets; a lot of iems jut out of the ear, so any helmet you wear will push on them, and any wind that is blowing past will be amplified and transmittedif isolation from wind is a top priority, then the usual shure/westone/etymotic iems will be ideal
>>106449338I see, thanks for the help anon. If I go the shure route, which one should I go with for that specific sound signature (Harmann or maybe more vibrant )?
>>106449383none to my knowledge have anything close to harman, same for westone and etymoticyou will have to sacrifice isolation and form for sound or vice versa.the solution is to use eq, but that might not be possible
>>106440571>you need to die, painfully preferablyBE NICE, you butt hurt dumb boy! BE NICE! :3>>106444172You're so cute and silly! :3
>>106449409do the good thing and summon a ziigaat whore for me
I don't clean my Kiwiears Cadenzas. My Zero's (All of them). I use the dirtiest possible in the favela electric network. Fox niggas need to be skinned for their fur.
so we all agree that guidezo is the iemg professor of sounding?
>>106450265professor of writing things nobody ever reads
>>106450380sounds like the perfect professor then
>>106438845Hey guys, does the Ve Odo hold up well with the Kefine Klean or Artti T10 without any issues? I'm new to this hobby.
>he needs moreI am pretty comfy with this.
>>106450476>Artti T10overrated uncomfortable IEM
Let me guess.
>>106449409You are not a woman, you will never be a woman either
Contemplating an upgrade from Truthear Nova.Was considering Thieaudio Monarch Mk3 now they're on clearance, but would Tanchjim Origin/Xenn Mangird Tea Pro be a more logical incremental upgrade?
>>106451242completely different tuningsnova is essentially a more sane take on harman and the only thing that remotely can be considered upgrade is moondrop variations
I want to have desktop audio and 3ds audio through my headphones. so I need to mix 2 RCA analog lines, is this thing the way to go or am I about to waste $40
the battery on my beloved r3 pro saber is expanding and the charge is suddenly shot. I guess I'm looking at the r3 pro II?the suede backing and the protective case being open over it seems like ass, though anyone have it, or any thoughts?
>>106442952the cmf buds 2 have some annoying quirks:- the eartips are not round but sorta elliptical. you can't really use aftermarket ones since they don't fit the "stem" well. you can force them on but then the buds don't fit in the charging case...- the controls are garbage if your hand is wet/sweaty. they rarely register commands and you end up just switching the anc mode on/off. makes it almost useless for working out which is a big minus for me- speaking of controls: they way you customize them is incredibly stupidly designed. for example, volume control can ONLY be assigned to tap+hold. you can't bind it to double tap or anything else. either tap+hold or disabled completely. and most of the functions are like that. and while i understand why there is no single tap control at all, i still would like to have the option.- there is an option to make the buds pause playback when you take one bud out of your ear. and while you can disable that function you can NOT disable the beep that the bud makes when you trigger it, so it still does beep every time you take it out your ear. very annoying- on a positive note - the buds have different sound alerts for triggering different functions so you can always tell if something got turned on by mistake- you don't get a charging cable in the box. thankfully the charging port is usb-c
>>106438845How good is the Fiio K11? I've been thinking about getting the non R2R
>posWhat does this mean? Just "piece of shit", or does it have a different meaning in this here circle of autists?
>>106451980pinnacle of sound
reddit cracked the code ;-; is it over??
Received my Aful Explorer today, and have listened to them for an hour. These are just amazing. They're the closest of my IEMs to my Klipsch RF-8000 floor standing speakers so far. The sound is super balanced. Good bass, very clear vocals, great treble that is never shrill or sibilant. I don't want to EQ them at all.Now, should I just be happy here or is there an upgrade for me? Is there something more expensive I can buy that will sound similar but even better?
>>106452802Bullshit. Truthear Gate sucks. It's the worst one I have out of 9 iems. Anything from KZ, like the Castor Bass, Vader Pro, AM16 etc will wipe the floor with it.
>>106451980you'll understand after you take your HRT sweetie
>>106450265>we allno idea who you think 'we' are, but there is no consensus tied to editor's wishful thinking. that's about as nice as I can put it.>>106450380no face no case >>106453476HRTFS are when the techs kick in though
>>106453343shut up rat
>>106453337hey enjoy them, not a bad purchase. stay away from EQ and you will be smooth sailing.
Fucking poorfags, someone give good feedback of the daybreak, you bought it right?
Is there no alternative to this for a USB-C dongle without a cable?
>>106453814BA pos, avoid.
>>106453814what's good about it?
>>106453657Chatgpt is not a source.
>>106453840There's also the kiwi ears allegro pro but that one sucks since it hisses with iems. I think the ddhifi grip is probably the best dongle form factor, hopefully it comes to a US retailer soon.
>>106453840Jcally ja56
>>106453922>>106453840and Jcally ja3t sorta
>>106453901yeah and neither are Sean Olive's scribblings.
>>106453657>but there is no consensus tied to editor's wishful thinkingyou are projecting
eq guide my beloved...
>>106453814it literally sounds like jm-1 pos lol what else do you need to know?
>>106450265>iemg professor of soundingIt's clearly OP and his setup, sorry chud
Let me guess, you need more.
>>106454118i need a delta-sigma DAC
>>106454118are those the FX17s?
>>106453789Imagine using speakers without EQ...
>>106454214where are the all the hardware equalizers in everyone's speaker setups then?
>>106454356In the AVR dummy.
>>106454364you can load peq and hrtfs in those?
Do custom IEMs measure poorly? If so, why is that?
>>106454397Yes.>>106454415They "measure" poorly because imagine fitting that thing into a coupler. Otherwise they're just deep insert IEMs. A more severe problem is that companies that specialize in making custom IEMs can't tune universal IEMs either.
>>106454415https://www.head-fi.org/threads/precogs-iem-reviews-impressions.937468/page-186#post-17207314https://www.head-fi.org/threads/precogs-iem-reviews-impressions.937468/page-139#post-16874193
>>106454118>File's original sample rate is 44.1khz>DAC plays it back at a higher sample rate than necessaryThat's one of my biggest pet peeves despite knowing I wouldn't hear a difference if I were blindfolded.
>>106454415longer tubes = physical low pass filters+ use shitty BAs = low output and/or peaky inherent driver frequency response (undesirable peaks at 2, 5, and/or 8khz, no ultra-high extension)= decades of mid iems
>>106454588ermmm... just read the eq guide
>>106454639Yes.
>>106454588Why do they use a gorillion BA drivers anyway? Is it to justify higher prices?
>>106454568>File's original sample rate is 44.1KHz>DAC is NOS>Play it back at 384KHz anyway
>>106454147Upsampling with high quality algorithms is available even on portables now grandpa. You don't need to convert to 1-bit anymore.
>>106454738yes
>>106454810ok R2R grandma
>>106454834Give me one reason I should bit crunch my 16-bit CD audio source to 1-bit when I can just directly upsample to 384KHz and play back with 15 more bits.
>>106454845cuz it's not transparent as a good delta sigma ($9), especially with the NOS reconstruction filter https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/fiio-k11-r2r-dac-hpamp-measurements.60228/
>>106454895Not an argument. Take meds.
>>106454900enjoy inferior sound then i guessany resistor mismatch adds up to higher non-linearity in the system, and you're 100% getting chink'd by fiio
>>106454920Is the Chinese in the room with us right now?
how much do audio codex matter on tws earbuds?
>>106455164not that much by itself. your device and files are also relevant.
>>106455300thanks. ive never had tws but im getting somes free ones with my new phone (google pixel). even though they're like $200 msrp they only support aac. but i have apple music so should be good enough for on-the-go phone listening
>>106454214You just need to EQ the room modes below approx 400Hz if present Hifi speakers do not need any correction padt that
Remember to use PEQdB Studio
>>106445268Anyone?
>>106455452>Hifi speakers do not need any correction past that.how? better quality speakers?
>>106455641Just get an apple dongle and be done with it. Or spend extra and try Fosi DS2 if you want hardware controls.
>>106455723Apple dongle doesn't really play nice on Android phones and if by some luck it does on a particular model the volume suffers. I think I'd much rather go for something like Fosi Audio DS2, thanks.
>>106455762>fosi ds2seconded. it's more than I need for pos as it doubles as a desktop/mobile dac.
>>106455864Does it use an app or no? I'm asking because Fiio's app isn't the greatest.
>>106450634>he needs moreNo, I need less boomy bass. The original Zero is still better imo>>106452802>>106453343Gate isn't my absolute favorite but it has a very safe tuning. Plus I jumped in the pool with them, completely submerged the driver and wires and they still sound totally fine. Most hybrid IEMs would be fucked after that.
