The internet will not survive in 10 years in 2036 the internet is basically dead.What I mean by this>EVERY internet package sent from your computer will require that the package is signed with your government ID >You will be unable to post anything anywhere unless you login with your government ID.>You will be unable to receive any package or message unless you are signed with your government ID >All you post and receive is also forwarded to the central government database>You will be unable to make a website even a web 1.0 one unless you register with the government (or one of the 5 mega corporations) and get a web creation license.>Of course the internet will be only apps and the 2 app stores (google and apple) will list app-websites like the 6 social media platforms you are allowed to visit.>All of the social media apps will require government ID to view and post.>every post will be monitored in real time by AI for dangerous misinformation and you will basically get shadow banned and talk to bot versions of your contacts and a AI will replace you and talk to your friends>Local AI will monitor everything you say and type and stop you from posting highlighting the dangerous misinformation you typed in and why it is wrong suggesting a chatGPT rewrite that says the opposite>Generation beta will grow up thinking this is normalFrom the star the internet was a tool for mas enslavement. The only reason the government allowed piracy and crazy things for ~20 years was so that a entire generation of nerds and then normies thinks the internet is great and grows up addicted to it. And now it is time to slowly boil the frog.PS: This is how most of the internet looks for me.
>>106441015And you're planning on getting every country in the world to sign up for this..how?
>>106441064It's to keep the children safe. Why do you hate children, anon?
>>>/x/
>>106441064>And you're planning on getting every country in the world to sign up for this..how????What is this boomer level nonsense?>USA makes age verification mandatory>EU makes age verification mandatoryWhat is left?China?Russia?The Arab countries???? (LOL) Africa !!!??>LE every country in the world Are you mentally ill?
>>106441015Remove the gov from the internetRemove the multinational ad agency groups from the internetNow you get a free internet again.
>>106441181>>Now you get a free internet again.LOL.The internet is not some magical dreamland it is literally servers and cables who are on land, land all owned by the government.Like WTF you retard!
>>106441295Is this what the gov has told you?
>>106441064>>And you're planning on getting every country in the world to sign up for thisAll of these countries are owned by the fed, and the fed is owned by (((payment processors))).You should go and see what happens when you try and avoid the petrodollar, like Gaddafi.
>>106441333Trolling outside /b/ I see!
>>106441295You're saying we need an internet hosted in international waters?
The internet was a good idea but it's clear that it has run it's course and is beyond salvage, our main goal should now be to kill it.
>>106441360You are overthinking this conspiracy chan.Fagot says>HAHAHA all countries will never agree to thisMeanwhile in reality>All countries agreed to respect the internet protocol>All countries agreed to respect the domain name registration systemClearly the fagot is debunked before he was able to even speak.
Hyphanet
>>106441379>The internet was a good ideaIt never was!It was literally a government operation to get more spyware since day 1.>You mean that if we do this every retard will walk around with a government tracker in their pocket (cellphone) ? And we can turn on the microphone and camera at any point?>And they will do all their shopping and this phone-internet so we get to spy on this also?>And they will upload their photos for free and literally fill out their own self reports on themselves (facebook, twitter) ??? >And we will have 100% aces to all of this without warrants??? !!!
>>106441015>set up i2p>set up trojan-gfw for obfuscating the i2p protocol from the isp>enjoy the web 1.0 experience yet again undisturbedI'l wait for you there faggots.
>>106441363Bootlicking the gov wont get you out of this, the gov created the problem. The solution is to remove the gov. It has always been that way.
>>106441015>>All you post and receive is also forwarded to the central government databaseanon...
>>106441015>>EVERY internet package sent from your computer will require that the package is signed with your government ID it is already "signed" by your ip (assuming you aren't using any extra layer of obfuscation). so unless you're using the free starbucks wif,i goverment already knows who you are (or your dad) and application layer identification doesn't make any difference.>>>You will be unable to post anything anywhere unless you login with your government ID.you already can't have a subscription without a goverment id.>packageat least have some technical knowledge about it before posting the normiest theory you could think of and calling other people normies>i cant watch porn on my dad's wifi reeezoom zoom
>>106441064Countries? No need, it'll be done by corporations.
>>106441015Uncle Ted was right.
Good! Internet is curse
>>106441070I don't. quite the opposite.
>trannies make shit drawings>expect to be paid through the roof for it>all of a sudden, AI makes much much better shit than them>they screech autistically until protocols are implemented to force you to use tranny shitart and prohibit free exchange of images41% is not enough. Clearly.
>>106441015hmm uhh what if we made our own internet
>>106441072Don't act like OP doesn't have a point, even if heavily exaggerated.We are definitely on the way to some sort of dystopian future.We're actually already in one, like Google just announced they're banning side loading on android for unsigned apps (so you don't own your own hardware, you may not run whatever program you want on it), more and more "devices" are made and sold like that and nobody bats an eye, large parts of the web are locked down, governments making oppressive laws like the UKs OSA, large internet communities are disappearing into unsearchable and proprietary 'app' platforms like discord etc.We have much more powerful technology today but i honestly miss 2005 in lots of ways.
>>106441064Not like we have a one world government system in place or anything.
I like how this shit has proven beyond a doubt that MFA is the biggest surveillance con on the planet right now. It was never about protecting your account.It was always about monitoring you.Fuck you discord, plebbit and other normalfags. You were wrong, yet again. Shame on you. You have killed people fighting tyranny (such as in gaza) with this shit. All because your corporations convinced you this was necessary, while leaking your data regularly regardless of it's use. Turns out it was clearly on purpose. Negligence only goes so far.
>>106441679Effectively we do because somehow this is enforcing international treaties to the point where it's destroying the sovereignty of states. You have as much sovereignty as the state if it cannot freely make it's own laws on it's own prerogative. Such states are mere puppets with no power. All the power is enforced through treaties, international standards and multinational ngos. They are a patrician class that are above the law while you suffer the full brunt of it, no matter how many pennies you have. Money doesn't even buy you out of this, because it has become an indicator and a honeypot for enforcing this shit.
OP is only half right, what will actually happen is that every governmental entity will issue their own version of a national electronic identification which any website will be allowed to authenticate a user with. The reality is that governments won't have to mandate or enforce anything, most companies that own websites, especially the social ones, will gladly implement the eID without prompt to weed out bots and AI accounts as well as delete a user's other multiple accounts. The internet will fracture and split into two parts, the internet that needs eID to work, and the internet that doesn't need eID which will get even more swamped by bots and even more beholden to Cloudflare.It won't be just websites either, AAA games will eventually have this requirement too so they can permanently ban cheaters, bots and undesirables from their games.
>>106441697Gov mandated it. WEF demanded it. Multinational advertisers worked with WEF and Gov/media to censor people. Independent corporations were targetted by them and you were gaslighted about what is true/false.The problem is multi national groups that boycott companies who go against global censorship. The problem is governments that implement these laws. The problem is people trusting the government/WEF propaganda. The problem is you worship the government and WEF.
Reminder to the reddit communist tourists. Once you give the government these powers, it will be used against you. Think twice before you support your communist EU gov.
>>106441015Sad but true. Good thing I won't live long enough to see this happening.
>>106441015there is an app for that
>>106441064easier than you think lol.>EUThey will do whatever US tells them to do.>ChinaThey already have this>Rest of the third worldjust bribe them and they will skin their own citizens alive.Maybe russia is only exception but they will have china tier surveilance soon.
>>106441015I AM SO MAD ABOUT THIS PROPHECY KEKISTANI BROS I'M GOING TO VOTE MIGA DOWNTICKET AND COMPLETELY FORGET ABOUT EPSTEIN
Plebbit solves this Plebbit is a fully open source, peer-to-peer social media protocol built on IPFS.no https endpoints or ssl certs, based on IPFS. Because it’s decentralized, it can’t be taken down, censored, or controlled by any single authority.Right now, Plebbit already has working old.reddit and 4chan-style UIs. But that’s just the beginning, the protocol is designed to support any kind of community space. The goal is to have UIs for things like Facebook-style groups, events, meetups, Discourse-style discussions, and oldschool forums/message boards. Streaming .. Plebbit can be used for anything not just social media https://github.com/plebbit
>>106442281IPFS is doomed, it already can't handle the load of the very few people that use it... by design it cannot scale the orders of magnitude needed in the future. and plebbit is already slow and broken as it is, it doesn't "solve" anything except wasting time.
>>106441827EU government has never been so fascist. And most of the extreme right are governing and methodically working on destroying social welfare, healthcare, freedom of speech, and pushing restrictive laws against the net. Yet most faggots go with the tide fighting the woke danger being a support on the machine that will crush them.
>>106442397>lefty communist censors internet>lefty communists arrest people for social media posts>lefty gov wants to end encryption>BUT MUH RIGHT WINGYour brain has already been castrated
yeah this is why i'm accustoming myself to browsing the darknet
>>106442633Socialism is shitskinism.
>>106441592and this is based because government le bad
>>106441015FUCKING FINALLYFREE AT LAST
>>106441064All WEF countries are implementing the censorship. UN is advocating for global censorship.
>>106442374Plebbit uses IPFS, which is more similar to BitTorrent, which is pure P2P as well.The issue with federations is that their instances are not easy to set up, most users don’t have an incentive to do so, and even if they did, they are not censorship resistant at all, because they work like regularly centralized websites. Your Nostr/Lemmy/Mastodon instance can get DDOS’d, deplatformed by the SSL certificate provider, deplatformed by the datacenter, deplatformed by the domain name registrar. The instance admin can get personally doxxed and harassed, they can get personally sued for hosting something a user posted, etc. And instances can block each other.Whereas running a node on Plebbit is as easy as opening up one of its desktop clients, which automatically run the custom IPFS node in the background, and seed all the protocol data automatically (similarly to how a BitTorrent client seeds torrents). It runs on a raspberry pi, on 4GB of RAM and consumer internet. It scales like torrents, i.e. the more users connect p2p, the faster the network gets. And most importantly, nobody can stop you or block you from connecting to another user, because there’s nobody in between. This means nobody can stop you from connecting to a subplebbit (subreddit clone). If you run your own community, you’re always reachable by any user on plebbit.could change underlying protocol in the future, if someone creates a better alternative to IPFS.
>>106443419the whole plebbit things turns out to be just a slow 4chan for crypto retards.
>>106442374It’s orders of magnitude better scalability than regular sites such as federated instances. Because it works like torrents, except you always seed, so plebbit nodes will inevitably improve the network speed more and more as more nodes join. And running a node works on a rasp pi. And all content is just text (including links from which media is embedded by the clients), so there’s no scalability issue relatively to storage, either.
I do feel the absolute misfire of the OSA has woken people up to this and has at least bought the rest of the world time to organise against these laws.
>>106442633Just... you know most government are right leaning Neo-liberals right, especially the british? Just because they have a slightly more colourful DEI policy does not make them left wing, just rainbow republican or whatever the term for it is. The current british Labour Party has been heavily criticised for being right wing.
>>106441015>>106441064I think people forget that opening a business used to be something you just needed money to do, without dozen regulations, standards and registrationsWhat they are trying to do is to push the same bullshit into the internet, which was the last free frontier of this worldBut even if they manage to ruin the internet, liberty will always be rising somewhere
lmao this fucking schizo
>>106443812when cloudflare goes "nope, youre not allowed on this website :)" what are you gonna do about it
>>106442281>creates a "p2p social media protocol>calls it plebbit>expects anyone to use it dead on arrival
cloudflare can tell that you have browsed this and that on 4chan, that you have searched for this on soucenao, that you ...
>>106443900...what website?
>>106444006every cloudflare protected onelike 4chan, or kc, or rule 34 xxx
>>106443455> plebbit nodes will inevitably improve the network speed more and more as more nodes jointhat assumes the amount of content never increases, which is false
>>106441015Honestly, if it helps keep me and others safe, I don't mind it. The government can gladly read whatever I send, it's not like I'm doing anything illegal.
>>106441015Just run the old protocols on your own wires.Just build your own internet.
>>106444115>it's not like I'm doing anything illegal.For now.Just wait until they change the law until you do.
>>106444039content gets faster as nodes grow. With content addressing (IPFS), every fetch can come from any peer that has the block. More readers - more replicas - shorter paths and more parallel sources. This is the BitTorrent effect, but for small blocks and whole threads. Plebbit rides IPFS/libp2p (DHT + Bitswap/pubsub), so popular posts/comments naturally gain providers and drop latency as swarms grow. Content growth doesn’t bottleneck a single pipe, because the protocol shards by community/topic. Each sub/community is its own pubsub topic/namespace; peers only relay what they subscribe to. So total network traffic grows, but an individual node’s load stays tied to the communities it follows/moderates. This is exactly why “running a sub is like seeding a torrent” is a fair analogy. Discovery scales with a DHT + provider records. New replicas announce “I have these blocks,” and lookups are O(log N) hops; more nodes actually reduce average lookup distance because there are more nearby providers in the keyspace. (This is the standard IPFS/libp2p DHT behavior Plebbit relies on.) PubSub meshes adapt under load. Gossipsub prunes/backs off low-scoring peers and builds multiple mesh paths for the same topic, distributing relay work instead of funneling it through a central choke point. More interested peers - more relays - higher aggregate throughput per topic. Plebbit’s docs and community notes explicitly mention IPFS/IPNS over PubSub/Gossipsub as the transport.https://github.com/plebbit/whitepaper/discussions/2
>>106444264Whenever I want to download a file over IPFS it either takes several minutes to find it, or it can't find it at all, even if the host is sitting right next to me. And it has only gotten worse over the years. This is unsustainable, full stop.
>>106444179Then I will keep changing my behavior; I'm a law abiding citizen.Recently speed limits were lowered at some places close to where I live. Naturally, I have adjusted how fast I drive on those roads.What's so difficult about all this for you people?
>>106444303that’s a fair criticism of raw IPFS. The base protocol can be slow for small/uncached content because discovery depends on the DHT, and peers may not be online or have your block.Plebbit improves this by:>Treating each sub/community as its own pubsub swarm - nodes only relay content for active communities, reducing noise and wasted lookups. Popular content naturally spreads faster - more replicas = faster fetches (BitTorrent effect). Optional pinning/relay nodes for critical content that ensures availability even if the host is offline.So yes, IPFS alone has scaling and discovery issues, but Plebbit’s design mitigates them for real-world usage.
>>106443902plebbit is not just “social media /reddit but p2p.” It’s a protocol you can build literally anything on top of. Fully open source, non-profit, and censorship-resistant. >No download needed>clients run in the browser. Freedom by design, not by permission. When the web locks behind KYC and ID checks, people will be glad that Plebbit (and Hyphanet) were built.https://github.com/plebbit
>>106444330cuck
>>106444390Or, you know, people will just SHOW THEIR ID.Do you also throw a fit when asked to show ID when buying alcohol?
>>106444330So, if a revolution started, who would you be killing?
>>106444428In the long run, people won’t be able to buy or book anything just because they read or watched something violent. ID checks are meant for real-life verification not for social media / message boards.
>>106444461Why would I be killing anyone?
>All internet usage requires gov't ID>All will be monitored and full of AI>All phone and computer OS's will locked down>All within your lifetimeFreedom. I'll be free from the machines once more. Blisspure Bliss
>>106444516You will need to change your behavior to accommodate those in charge, or those who want to be in charge.
>>106444466on the contrary, tripfagging provide an easy way to block the schizoposts
>>106441015Correct. Your responsibility to your Nation is to be a productive member and follow the instructions of your betters. Thank God we will return to a proper society soon.
>>106444615So? That's literally not a problem for me.
Would it be possible to make a seperate internet?
>>106444811https://github.com/plebbithttps://github.com/hyphanetHere are two solution
>>106444604>implying you will be able to enjoy this "freedom" for longThe nukes will come knocking soon.
>>106441064>be Amazon, worlds largest book seller>don't sell this book
>>106442281>just checked out this plebchan which is 4chan clone it's pretty interesting having a peer to peer 4chan style. I also like the old reddit interface, but I cant figure out how to post there and it keeps asking for eth , sol or some crypto bullshit or that I have to contact the devs on telegram to be whitelested feels kind of dead too… maybe like 20 users max. >kinda funny for something thats supposed to be open and free
>>106445081As I know they are implementing an authentication antispam system but until then you will have be whitelisted by contacting those retards on telegram
>>106445258>thinking of making my own sub>but do anons need to get whitelisted firstor can anyone just shitpost freely?
>>106444604>needs government to control himself because he lacks self-control
>>106441403No one could have predicted those things 40 years ago. Do you think governments today know what the world will be like in 2065?
What should we actually do if the whole internet becomes tied to ID and profiled? Will we have to just watch television, buy second hand books and dvds in cash, talk with locals at the pub?
>>106445378We'll go from being shutins to being shutouts.
>>106445309Anyone can make a sub and you choose your own whitelist challenges. You can choose to have no whitelist, you choose your own mod. You have complete control. To make a sub you need to download the clienthttps://github.com/plebbit/plebbit-cli
>>106441015I hope also for a time when idiots won't be able to fuck their wives without government ID approval
>>106441015this is already happening, except it's IMEI not government ID
Here's a different take on an internet replacement https://hinter.net/ Its main difference from everything else I've seen out there is that public gateways are out of scope and the user is assumed to be familiar with vibe coding.
>>106441015>this future sounds like a total dystopia. Basically, the internet as we know it dies and becomes a fully government-regulated walled garden. Everything is monitored, censored, and restricted to 5 apps, sounds like a nightmare.>This is exactly why protocols like Plebbit matter. It’s a fully open-source, peer-to-peer social media protocol built on IPFS/libp2p. No central server, and no mandatory government ID login. You host your own sub, post freely, and every peer helps scale the network.Moderation and spam protection are community-driven, not government AI bots it has no central servers, no global admins, and no way shut down communities-meaning true censorship resistance.Unlike federated platforms, like lemmy and Mastedon, there are no instances or servers to rely onJoin the plebbit movement https://github.com/plebbithttps://plebbit.com/
>>106441015We literally need a 4chan ( kyc free ) alternative
>>106441070The only way to keep children safe is by nuking pissrael
>>106441181>Remove the gov from the internet>Remove the multinational ad agency groups from the internetOkay how?
>>106441015At some point it becomes our duty to burn down cell towers, and exchanges, and short-out / cut down power lines.
>>106445359>No one could have predicted those things 40 years agoBro 2001 A Space Odyssey came out like 50 years ago.
>>106441382This. All countries can agree on Antarctica and Intl Space Station. The news is fake
>>106441637>we gave up this for cars
>>106441015The internet, being the ultimate expression of human creativity, our gift and our birthright, is ethernal. The question is whether governments, and especially useless cloack&dagger shitfucks, will survive or are we entering the age of blissful anarchy.>AI Doesn't exist or matter. The real AI: 1. will be invented from scratch by some amateur hacker in his basement, not by annoying corpos, and 2. will be a classy lightning in a bottle, not a nothingburger an entire spy ring of paid fluencers have to artificially keep relevant for years.
>>106441697MFA via OTP is fine, using SMS for it isn’t. Where I am it’s trivially easy to get a burner sim with cash, but in many places it isn’t
>>106441015>be millennial>witness the slow gradualism of the Fabian Society modus operandi coalesce with the end of the communists’ long march through the institutions >spend the 00’s and 10’s creating a plethora of fake profiles with legit looking emails and social media activity in order to fulfil the government profiling requirements >additionally spend almost 2 decades building a silent bot net to be utilised at own discretion>save it all for a rainy dayNGMI
>>106444924>be zoomer, world’s largest collection of retards >not buying up as much literature as possible for dirt cheap from second-hand book stores & book fairs prior to the communist book editing following the closure(s) of book-resellers >getting mad at amazon not selling midwit-tier books when shit like Isaac Newton’s Chronology of the Ancient Kingdoms has been mass-reprinted for the purpose of giving readers headaches because it inadvertently names the jew>not downloading the massive banned books collection from the 2013 google drive link >mUh aMaZoN>being this illiterate
>>106445378We start living in a bastardised, communist version of William Gibson’s Neuromancer.
>>106447056it’s funny, with the Computer Science industry being flooded with applicants, and there being literally ~200k unemployed graduates every six months, at least one of them would take it upon themselves to develop encrypted messaging services whilst it’s still technologically, and more importantly legislatively, feasible to do so. Alas.
>>106448857>the internet is ethernal The time is neigh!
>>106449038You're so mad
>>106441064Don't worry bros, I have a backup plan in case this happens
>>106441064>what is the WEF, UN, BRICS, NATO, EU
>>106441015The powers that be have a new system that has been in the development for decades now, ready to be rolled out in the coming years. It will operate in parallel starting sometime this year and by the next decade it will be fully operational as the Agenda 2030 goals are slowly being implemented.There will be no collapse, no violence, no uprising, no world war, no revolution, no killing of jews or politicians or other such fantasies. Instead there will be law & order, compliance and total surveillance until the very end. AI will be at the center of it all. The Great Reset is inevitable.
>>106441084We need to create a new nation, maybe form a army of 4chan invade a small African/island mineral rich , take over ,declare it independence ,,,call it Outer Heaven or logsville, 4chan etc ,,,
>>106441015You have not heard the best bit yet, They now want to watch all of us Goon with always on webcam ,apparently to counter ppl evading the id system.
>>106453008PS and after we can divide it all up, different states, provinces areas ie /tg /pol /b /g etc sound good ?
