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Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability, 14400F budget, 14600K midrange)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change)

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
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>GPU
Budget: Arc B580 (for new builds), used card
Midrange: 9060 XT 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: 9070 XT, 5070 Ti
Workstation: 5090, 5060Ti 16GB, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Buying guide:
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>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P, ASUS XG259CS
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), XG32UCWMG (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

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>News & Rumors
Microsoft Windows 11 24H2 update may cause SSD failures; DRAMless SSDs are more vulnerable.
If you have a potentially vulnerable SSD, revert Windows update, disable automatic Windows update, & use Registry Editor to set 64 MB HMB allocation policy (or disable HMB).
https://www.neowin.net/news/report-microsofts-latest-windows-11-24h2-update-breaks-ssdshdds-may-corrupt-your-data/

RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
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https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

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>Storage Reviews
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https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/
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>>106444346
your computer is a piece of shit op
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>>106444365
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Im confused about blasting room full of anime girls that look like an AI could shit them out
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holy shit winblows its so over op
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This is the official /pcbg/ gpu tier list and Daniel Owen is our LA Jewish.
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>>106444444
GET IS FUCKING WASTED AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
WHY YOUYUUUU WHY CONSOOMER GAMERSAS
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Is buying bundles ever good? How do I know the parts aren't bad stock?
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>>106444483
Retailers and manufacturers want to avoid product returns & RMAs. They want to make money and win repeat business.
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>>106444427
The actual list is something like this

good buys: 5070 ti, 5070
less good ones: 9070 xt, 9060 xt 16gb
you have too much or too little money: other gpus
prebuilts only to trick parents buying shit for kids : 8gb models
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>>106444346
How real is this?
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Think im going to buy a IPS screen. I've been using a VA screen for years and sure i love the contrast but i got fucking burn in now and it gives me eye strain
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>>106444602
youd be part of a very small group of people who downgrade their panel tech after several years of getting used to the good stuff
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This is probbaly a SQG question, but if I want a 2nd GPU to suppliment my first is there a degree of compatibility or match it needs to have with the first card?
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>>106444602
I'm likely going to get another IPS as well, 32 inch. Genuinely everything I read about OLED is not if you will get burn in but WHEN.
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but GPU is everyone pairing with the 9800X3D? I read there's no point to it unless you have 5090.

Is there a way to see performance with it with other GPUs?
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>>106444602
VA's been trash for years so good upgrade if it hasn't destroyed your eyesight already
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>>106444346
>tranime
>figurines
Bring back the cats
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>>106444583
Shills in despair

>>106444346
What do you goys think of a 27 inch curved display?
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>>106444583
So fucking based
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>>106444649
Why won't my oled smartphone display and steamdeck oled display have the burn in despite both having 2 years of constant usage?
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>>106444602
VA miniled
Oled and IPS tards are delusional fanatics.
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>>106444702
>VA miniled
lol
lmao even
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Looking for a 1080p VA monitor. No one really talks about them so i dont know whats good or not
>BUDGET
100-200
>COUNTRY
Sweden
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>>106444693
>oled smartphone display
My Galaxy S22 was my first experience with oled and it burned in within a few months of me owning it. It took a long time for the burn in to fade away. If your goal is to convince me to spend my money on oled then you're going to fail.
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>>106444705
?
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>>106444751
No, i'm curious why such an issue seems so common on PC displays but not on smartphones and tablets
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>>106444583
I'm amazed this guy hasn't committed sudoku given the current state of Intel.
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>>106444583
>you should trust people who don't know anything about hardware
lol the cope is insane

when you ask most gamers what's their CPU they literally reply with "ryzen 7 or intel i7" because they don't even fucking know there are gen and sku differences. even people that use their computer for work do this shit. 90% of the people don't know shit about hardware
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>>106444821
Do you have big fragmented storage on HDD? Because that's what is causing stutters for me. I have to disconnect HDD before gaming.
>>106444563
>(i don't care if you get 22k or 30k)
Shiiiieeeeeet
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>>106444651
>9800X3D? I read there's no point to it unless you have 5090
It depends on the game, the resolution, and the framerate. Certain games can use the extra cache and benefit greatly from it. For low resolution and high refresh rates, you'll see more benefit from the extra cache. With high resolution and low framerate the perf improvement over a 9700X is like 2-3% average. So it should be less necessary for the use case for which most people probably get a 5090 (4K, max settings).
>Is there a way to see performance with it with other GPUs?
Techpowerup uses a 9800X3D for all their GPU reviews.
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>>106444849
>Shiiiieeeeeet
yeah that's bad lol
you're probably gonna have to redo your UV from scratch
0.01 AC LL is not stable for me even with stock voltages
idk what a good value is for your board at LLC5, on ASUS boards you can enable "sync AC/DC LL with VRM loadline" but i don't know if gigabyte has a similar option
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My continued G80SD / 32" QDOLED observations

Honestly, I now think the subpixel arrangement and the fringing is actually a real problem, it creates a noticeable red outline at bottom and green outline at the top of everything which gives you this chromatic aberration/3d/color vibration look that makes it impossible for your eyes to focus and sears at your eyes

140ppi with qdoled is just not enough and some say it's not even good enough with the 27" 166ppi ones, maybe the 220ppi 5k ones will be good enough?

looks liked WOLED won on the desktop honestly, however I've never tried it thoroughly but allegedly it's not as abrasive as qdoled

at this point it looks like I'm either buying a WOLED or going back to LCD
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>>106444957
Well at least IA CEP seems to be disabled by default
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>>106445000
auto is enabled on new microcode
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>>106445000
>>106445016
if IA CEP is disabled you would crash, the score wouldn't go down
gigabyte's description seems inaccurate
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If i change the PPT limit to 65W on my 7600X will it still boot?
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>>106445031
Yes, it will. Multicore performance @ high CPU utilization will be power-limited.
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>>106445063
Thanks, Just built it today and it seems to have hit 80c at one point, not used to such high temps compared to my old Ryzen 5 3600.
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How does one regain "faith" in the market?
Or is it over for me?
>be me 15 years ago
>build a PC
>think nothing of it
>upgrade every now and then
>see prices rise over the years even outside of crypto scalping
>see features clipped
>slowly learn about the general bad behavior from companies willing to fuck over people with rmas and support
>get called crazy when I bring this up
>covid hits
>everything just gets more extreme
>gpus are $1000+ with custom versions costing hundreds of dollars more
>things like mobos seem blander than ever but more expensive
>cpus are melting on both sides
>companies are still acting like shit and are constantly called out
How does one in good faith spend any significant amount of money?
I bought a 4080 but only because it came directly from Nvidia as I just cannot stomach throwing money to 90% of the companies out there.
The juice isn't worth the squeeze in alot of aspects and I'd like to hear how people rationalize some of the shit nowadays.
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>>106445086
There should be a PBO ECO mode you can toggle in the BIOS, the exact method varies by board vendor.
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>>106445125
I did turn it on but the CPU is still able to pull up to 88W that way, i understand its intended behaviour.
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Thoughts on the LS24DG300EUXEN?
24" Odyssey G3 G30D FHD 180Hz
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>>106445116
>I bought a 4080 but only because it came directly from Nvidia
NVIDIA is the one who designed less safe PCBs for the RTX 40 and 50 series cards, and everyone else has to follow it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb5YzMoVQyw
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>>106444957
Fuck it, I'll just turn AC on. Who cares if it's 60 or 80 euro a month for power, amirite?
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>>106445151
Probably decent, we've had some anons who recently bought the 27" version (G5) and he's very happy with it.
Check prices for the XG259CS as well.
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>>106445186
I just want some faith my shit will be replaced when it goes bad, not how it goes bad.
I have a feeling you'll try to shake what little confidence I have in Nvidia
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I've had a mag271c for a couple of years and my taskbar has been permanently burnt in. For a long time there would also be vertical flicker across the screen for several minutes on startup. Have to say that im not a fan of MSI. I also overpaid for this type of screen back then because i was stupid
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>>106445243
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25hZOx1Zmo
Basically like this but it would go from top to bottom and take several minutes to go away by itself.
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>>106445147
>I did turn it on but the CPU is still able to pull up to 88W that way
Does the ECO setting overrule your manual PPT?
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>>106444977
so hows the actual media experience
hdr in games/anime
hdr in windows desktop

playing cs2 with fast panel at 240hz
stuff like that
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>>106445265
Ignore that image. Was going to suggest something else originally.
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>>106445191
watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9slwXKUwmnE
it's long but it will help you understand how it works
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PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price

CPU AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D 4.3 GHz 16-Core Processor $699.00 @ B&H
CPU Cooler Montech HyperFlow Silent 360 72.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $79.98 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte X870E AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ATX AM5 Motherboard $307.95 @ Amazon
Memory Corsair Vengeance RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory $244.99 @ Amazon
Storage Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive $159.99 @ Abt
Video Card PNY OC GeForce RTX 5080 16 GB Video Card $999.99 @ Amazon
Case Cooler Master HAF 500 ATX Mid Tower Case $99.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair RM1000e (2025) 1000 W Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $139.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $2731.88
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-08-30 12:25 EDT-0400


US

do i return the 5080 and get something else
also what cooler should i replace it with
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>>106445306
Thanks. I remember I understood that shit on X38 chipset, but that was a long time ago.
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>>106445327
>do i return the 5080 and get something else
Don't bother unless you want a 5090
At $1000 it's not the worst buy
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>>106445333
it's more important on 14th gen because there's just so many more cores
droop on my 14700K, at low LLC, from idle to full load is like 200mv
you need some mechanism to compensate for that or you won't be stable
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>>106444335
Why is the i5 still so based all these years later?
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>>106445377
It wouldn't be so based if Intel wasn't as desperate at slashing their prices.
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This sounds too good to be true.
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>>106444583
>>106444583
>using influencers for hardware performance data is retarded
>let me use market statistics as a metric instead
whoever this faggot is was projecting very hard when typing "influencers rarely play games"
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>>106445410
how so
its literally just a 2gb module ->3gb shit
how much do you think vram costs
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>>106445410
Still vramlet territory anon
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>>106445410
Good luck getting them at MSRP.
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>>106445410
>>106445445
What's the advantage of 5000 series over 4000? Just MFG versus FG? How much better is it?
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>>106445556
the dlss transformer model takes a bit smaller hit on performance than older gens
frame gen went from 1 interpolated frame to 3

otherwise they are very similar
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How big should my desk be? Mine is 80cm long but I still feel like I'm too close to my 27 inches monitor
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>>106445625
At least 130cm. I sit 110cm away from 1080p 24" monitor.
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>>106445556
A slightly better chip that can boost higher, more tensor & RT cores.
Both the GPU and the GDDR7 memory chips have a higher OCing headroom.
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>>106444677
anime website
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can X3D CPU's provide better frame times in already GPU limited scenarios?
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>>106445556
>5000 series over 4000
As of right now it's basically just multiframe gen + 4000 series is too expensive even used usually. DLSS transformer and framegen at 2x actually run a little bit better on blackwell too but not enough to matter all that much(as far as I know)
RTX hair is coming to indy and it 5000 exclusive, that's totally going to be huge...

Long term Blackwell and whatever amds next gen is will (likely) be the baseline, like turing and rdna2 were. Going to be 2-4 years before you see that actually matter but still something to keep in mind.
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>>106445631
I see.. I sit 75cm away so no wonder I feel sick after a while. I wonder if ikea has something affordable
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>>106445688
theres prob cases like unreal 5 where cpu has to stream in new actors and trash old shit where you're gpu bound a lot of the time but a better cpu reduces fps drops and stuttering
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>>106445688
>can X3D CPU's provide better frame times in already GPU limited scenarios?
Barely.
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Do I need a UPS for my PC? I'd buy a line-interactive at most, online are too noisy from what I read
I don't live in a third-world country and I'm not too afraid of outages but I do have a few heavy appliances on the same circuit, so maybe AVR would help?
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>>106445723
>>106445749
Sounds like it doesn't worth the extra money. I can sell my 7600X for full price right now, but can't see any better alternatives other than the 9600X. X3D chips are still too expensive, and I don't have a 4090 either .
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>>106445688
>>106445749
And before someone drops in to say
>but muh 1% lows
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>>106445632
>>106445620
When 5000 supers come out, what should I change my 4070 Ti Super to? Just 5070 Super? I didn't want to get regular 5070 because prices were bad and 12GB of VRAM.
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>>106445625
The recommended viewing distance for 27" is somewhere between 65 cm to 1m with 77 - 80 being ideal. My desk is 80 cm width as well and if I sit upright at the keyboard and mouse the distance seems to be too short with the monitor at 65~cm but when I kick back it's plenty.
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>average
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>>106445775
>>106445771
these benchmarks are useless because they test with nothing running in background. in reality people are doing more shit on their pc so the cpu is more important.
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>>106445769
Outage isn't the main scenario UPS helps against. It's momentary "blinking" of power. Not even enough to dim standard lightbulp all the way off, but enough to shut down your PC completely. Also it's good idea to put some protection between your ISP cable and PC, if it's not an optic. You don't know what spaghetti those faggots actually set up and how safe it is.
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>>106445801
So that's a yes, then. Thanks anon
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>>106445789
In most cases I'd assume that's a browser sitting idle and just consuming some RAM, or a video capture utility that's probably running out of the GPU anyway. It's not going to move the needle much on an 8 core, 16 thread CPU.
And again, as the resolution drops the difference increases. Not to mention if you're addicted to something like Factorio the extra cache will actually speed the game up a lot. The X3D processors aren't pointless. But they're well beyond the sweet spot on the price/performance curve unless you have a specific need.
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If i only want to play AAA games up to 2023
Do I really need more than 8gb vram?
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>>106445865
if you can get 24gb under a thousand why not just go for it
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>>106445860
chrome open
steam open
discord open
obs open
msi afterburner open
100+ other processes according to task manager
normies need a better cpu like they need watercooling telling people they need less is wrong
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>>106445783
>4070 Ti Super
There's nothing worth (supers won't change that) upgrading to outside of the 5090. Wait another gen
Super cards aren't going to be any stronger than the base cards.
If you're at 1080p or 1440p even the 5080 (and super) wouldn't be noticeable in 99% of games.
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>>106445873
But i can get a 4060 with 8gb for less than 300
And i suspect i won't need more for the next decade
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>>106445931
ps6 will launch eventually and games will be made to run on it
may as well buy gpu that eases through those
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>>106445880
Even with a VP9 encode running that's only 20% utilization. I don't think it's that big a deal.
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>>106445937
I don't think there will ever be good games from now on
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>>106445962
what if you stopped masturbating or using 4chan for 3 days and then tried video games again
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are budget gaming builds as bad as budget gaming laptops with 4060?
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>>106446030
Considering they may offer the potential to upgrade, no. And the laptop graphics chips are always worse than their desktop equivalents.
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>>106445880
AIOSlop is not water cooling, it's dogshit spread on bread.

Also the biggest boon of custom loop is how quiet stuff is. You simply live with the
>WHHHHHRRRRRRRRRR
sucks to suck!
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>>106446030
depends
if you spend the bare minimum to get current gen stuff it'll be a pretty alright build for gaming
eg 5060 300€, preferably a 12-16gb gpu instead.
150€ am5 mobo
200€ am5 cpu
50€ cooler
100€ 32gb ddr5 ram
150€ 2tb nvme ssd
100€ psu
100€ case

this then facilitates upgrading to high end parts like 9800x3d or 5090 later without issue

Last gen budget builds are problematic. going am4 in 2025 is a bit sus since you cant easily upgrade the cpu as it would require swapping multiple parts. Last gen amd gpus arent worth buying. Last gen nvidia isnt really worth it over new gen. Used gpus come from crypto farms.
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I have an RTX 2060 Super on board right now. What GPU would be a reasonable upgrade from it?
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best deal? 9060xt, 7700xt or 7600xt
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>>106446298
any good upgrade will likely bottleneck, what's the cpu
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>>106446307
do not buy last gen amd or 8gb gpus
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>>106444346
kys troon
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>>106446317
i5-10600K
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>>106446334
ok what gpu do i buy for under $400
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>>106446348
9060 XT 16GB is fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqRTVzk2PXs
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>>106446348
5070 is best value gpu rn

9060 xt 16g, 5060 ti 16gb are the step downs
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>>106446127
shit, that's almost euro for euro the build I just got except with a 621 euro RTX 5070
>99 euro RAM
>86 euro case (overspent, should've gotten some cheap chink shit, but at least it looks cool...)
>104 euro PSU (kinda overkill, 850W)
>148 euro SSD
>621 euro GPU
>223 euro CPU
>48 euro cooler (probably overkill for my 9600)
>79 euro MOBO (open box Micro ATX)
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>>106446298
5070 would be 2x-3x before any dlss, rt, or other ai trickery. 1080p even with DLAA it's totally overkill for most games, Cyberpunk PT and unofficial remix mods are the only thing I can think of that you'd have to use up scaling for.
5060ti is pretty good too (right at the borderline of usable for path tracing and heavy rt) but unless $430 is the absolute max you can spend it makes more sense to find another $120 for a significantly better card.
There is the 9060xt for $350 which depending on the game is either a 5060 or 5060ti competitor, but I'd be worried about longevity, plus downgrading to fsr would probably feel bad.
>>106446307
Of those 3 the 9060xt (16gb)
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>>106445288
>so hows the actual media experience
good but it's oled this tech was made for consooming content, probably far away since this is tv tech, desktop it's probably not good

>hdr in games/anime
g80sd compared to the 8900 philips whatever I had is differently tuned, even with windows calibration and everything the philips was blowing out detail in say ER increasing brightness
looking at content HDR looks better due to more detail in bright areas and whatever, so I guess it works
I haven't tested enough
you can modify the service menu for higher brightness apparently too but anyway
>hdr in windows desktop
works fine, the tuning feels completely different how the "sdr brightness" slider works in windows compared to the philips
you can also make hdr nuclear level bright on this monitor with active tone mapping + contrast enhancer but you are gonna blow out details

>playing cs2 with fast panel at 240hz
same as before, 0 smear because oled but even 240hz is not clear enough for motion, you could easily want double more
going back to if you have a smeary lcd if you have one that is slow will be pretty bad

but what good is it if you cant focus your eyes?
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>>106446334
>>106446368
>>106446489
Ty. New build so far is
>7800x3d
>basic ass coolermaster 212 fan
>gigabyte b850x wifi
>silicon power 2x16 ddr5 6000 cl30
>9060xt 16gb
next is looking for a new psu and deciding if i want to keep my current case or get a new one.
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>>106446524
>but what good is it if you cant focus your eyes?
this is all because of the triangle sub pixels despite 140ppi? and its problematic where, only when reading text or elsewhere too?
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next time try windows key+tab key instead of alt+tab
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>>106445116
>>get called crazy when I bring this up
zoomers love dicksucking companies now
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>>106446104
Yeah sure. Custom loop is unneeded, excessive and provides almost none benefits yet the drawbacks are immense. A 360 or 420 AIO is all you need
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>>106446525(me)
this isn't bottlenecking anything right?
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>>106445116
>I'd like to hear how people rationalize some of the shit nowadays.
Marketing is very effective.
The market now is a $500 CPU is the bestselling CPU by far, like a huge amount and if you buy anything else that's stupid. People don't want competition. They just want to buy 1 thing and hope all the youtubers say it's the best thing ever.
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>>106446669
the gpu is the bottleneck in 90% of gaming scenarios
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>>106446669
Your CPU is way overpowered for the card you've picked. Okay if you play mostly CPU limited games like strategy/sims but could be better allocated for more graphically-intensive games.
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>>106446676
i have a 5700xt but it's on it's last legs and has been crashing fairly often. honestly i could probably just get a new smaller upgrade gpu and be fine but it would also bottleneck my 3700x regardless
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>>106446696
honestly i don't even really play games that often, i mainly just play league and other esport titles like valorant/rivals etc. Nothing super graphics intensive.
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>>106445327
>RM1000e
Get the RM1000x. e is lower tier and you have a tier 1 cpu
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>>106445327
>Video Card PNY OC GeForce RTX 5080 16 GB Video Card
>PNY
I wouldn't
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>>106446720
You do want a strong CPU for those games, at least if you're good enough to justify it, but you also need a strong card to drive the FPS into "competitive" territory. Seeing as you don't play often you're probably not going to gain an edge from high FPS so feel free to cut it back if you need the money elsewhere. It's AM5 so you can always upgrade later.
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>>106445410
all they are doing is swapping 2gb modules for 3gb ones

just watch all the youtubers seethe about how extra vram is useless now
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Give me one reason why sticking my computer in my fridge wouldn't be a sick lifehack.
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>>106445688
285K has best 1% lows 200S 8200-cudimm ddr5
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>>106446748
Not sure about the other(s) but the oc and epic x pny cards are pretty good.
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>>106446550
what was said here also in this video from that boomer >>106434514

>this is all because of the triangle sub pixels despite 140ppi?
yes

>and its problematic where, only when reading text or elsewhere too?
everywhere on text, any object, it will look like you can't focus, except you are focusing but it's because it's fringing on top and bottom around objects, very strange

and if you look at a full red/green/blue test pattern, especially on a glossy screen, it's like you will get reflections of all color spectrums because the pixels are staggered (this is kinda schizo but kinda like this)

it's like the whole pentile matrix on phones again, it looked like ass when it was low ppi

it's just not as sharp as ips, idk how much more ppi you need to compensate you need more
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Should i update my RX6600? bought in 23, its been ok but i been feeling the limits recently i been thinking of selling it and buying a 7000 series card to upgrade or should i stay in the 6000 series or jump straight into 9000?
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>>106446819
Some parts don't do better being cold. If you could just stick your cpu and gpu in the fridge that would be a neat trick though.
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>>106446864
I suppose the lg tandem oled monitors are going to be popular for people with that severe issues from the fringing
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any mexibros that know about monitors here? I cant find any of the suggestions in the OP nor the ones in monitor hunter
most monitors sold here are outdated or chink trash or severely overpriced
I want a monitor for gaming and design work, im ok with 160hz refresh, just the colors need to be accurate enough. I dont like oled, simply dont.
Alternatively, is it ok to buy a monitor from ebay? the gigabyte m27ua is being sold at msrp and the shipping+taxes isnt that bad, its from a seller in Europe, seems reputable enough but idk if the screen would survive the trip
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>>106446769
>It's AM5 so you can always upgrade later.
nice point. right now i have the 3700x so any am5 chip is a big enough upgrade. are they going to continue making am5 cpus or is am6 soon approaching?
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>>106446819
If you have AC your PC is already in a "fridge". Dropping the ambient temperature from 21C to 5C won't change much.
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>>106446819
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQGW46B6x_4
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>>106446819
>>106446897
Using a custom chiller loop would be more efficient. With the fridge your electricity costs would likely go up as it would be constantly trying to cool a several hundred watt heat source. Basically like leaving the door open.
>>106446887
>or jump straight into 9000
Probably that one as long as you can get a 16GB card.
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>>106446970
That's stupid fridges dry things out. A computer isn't going to condensate.
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>>106446956
They've said (at least) one more gen. Going 7600 -> 11800X3D would be a pretty good upgrade when the time comes.
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>>106446887
>7000 series card to upgrade or should i stay in the 6000 series or jump straight into 9000?
You want fsr4+ or dlss support.
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>>106446980
ooooo I really like this idea
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>>106446956
>are they going to continue making am5 cpus or is am6 soon approaching?
Rumors are Zen 6 will still be on AM5.
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>>106446942
woleds still have fringing but it's a more normal subpixel not the pixel matrix like qdoled
I underplayed the significance.. problem is you can't almost see it, you know something is wrong but you can't pinpoint it
but you are seeing fringing but it's more like you feel like you can't focus since it does not look normal
I'm 99% positive it's just the fringing that is fucking everything up
qdoled can't render pure text, it looks like it's full of color when it's supposed to be white
yep, it's over
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Are AMD GPUs finally okay? Or will it be no drivers and slow support for new AAA releases?
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>>106447071
does disabling cleartype impact fringing on text
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Are NVIDIAGPUs finally okay? Or will it be non working drivers on Windows 11 & Linux and slow support for anything non AI?
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>>106447100
AMD gpus other than maybe the 9060xt aren't worth buying.
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>>106446980
>>106447035
ok last question, with the build mentioned in >>106446525 (except with a 7600 instead of 7800x3d) pcpartpicker has an estimated wattage of 344w. With that type of estimation (and eventually an upgrade to an 11800x3d whenever that happens) what wattage psu should i be looking for?
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>>106447183
The 9070 would be the best value this generation at its $600 MSRP. Not so much at $700.
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>>106447298
the cpus are pretty irrelevant for watt use
an 850w psu should be fine unless you go and buy 6090 type gpu later
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this step backwards will be celebrated as progress
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>>106447298
Your choice is more constrained by market forces than the technical requirements. A good quality 550W would be fine but nobody really makes good units that low any more. They tend to start at 750 so that's the spec to target. 850W if you want headroom for a high-end (but not halo) card upgrade later.
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>>106447338
they probably looked at stats from past games and realized less than 1% of the playerbase turns on RT lmao
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>>106447338
Sir. This is /pcbg/.
But they're clearly trying to reduce system requirements to get as many players as possible. So no, it won't be celebrated as progress. It's business as usual.
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someone please put me in a coma until 15-16th september, i cant wait im literally checking my order 5 times a day, even if i know the thermalright wont be in stock from store before earliest 13th x____________x no other suppliers has it in stock fuckkkk
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>>106447338
Ray Tracing has no place in a competitive FPS where players want the highest framerate possible to the point they're willing to play at stretched 1024x768 for that 500Hz
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>>106445116
>my purchase is okay from the company I approve of
>other purchases are really giving me the ick
If you had a 1080ti then your post might have been less woman-like, fag.
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>>106445327
Jumping from one 5080 to another is a bit silly, the gamer move would be to stick with what you have and try to secure a new one next release cycle. If you secure it early enough, sell your previous card for profit.
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I have most of my old gaming PC just sitting in my closet, and want to do something with it. I just need some storage and a case+fans. I found this thing, the Darkrock Classico Max, and I guess I could make it like a gaming pc/nas hybrid. Maybe run Windows as the host (so I can run games with anticheat) and something like TrueNAS in a VM. Would this be retarded? I just want to throw it in my living room. It's a 13700KF and RTX 3080, I want to use Jellyfin too. I know I don't have the iGPU but I think NVENC should be ok and not hurt the gaming performance too much.
https://www.amazon.com/DARKROCK-Classico-Computer-Supported-Vertically/dp/B0DM8NMFZL
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>>106447402
>competitive
>battlefield
lol.
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>>106447338
yet it has framegen which is the opposite of performance & latency
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>>106447338
RT is such a meme that the horizon games and death stranding are missing it
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>>106447495
>13700KF and RTX 3080
>old
What?
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>>106447540
framegen doesn't take any real effort to add
for RT support you need to design your development pipeline around it
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>>106447338
Even with a 5090, RT in most games will cause the framerates to dip below 100 FPS at 1440p (anything less than 150 FPS is already completely unplayable dogshit)
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>>106447495
nigga that's not old and overkill for what you want it for
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>>106447605
But I already have the hardware and it would play games too.
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>>106447601
>anything less than 150 FPS is already completely unplayable dogshit
esports niggers are as bad as poorfags, your opinion is dogshit.
I bet now that framegen is a thing games in the near future will target 30fps on even high end cards :)
They know people with a controller won't notice/care :)
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Why is AMD only Thunderbolt/USB4 "compatible"? Why not full support? Licensing?
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>>106447748
To get full thunderbolt cert it has to be able to drive two displays through a single cable via splitter. its a niche use case and you would just use a dgpu which all the ports you need anyways
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Im think about replacing my old ryzen 7 5800X but userbenchmarks says that a 9800X3D would only be 25% better. wtf how can that be? Im not gonna invest so much money for only a minor improvement
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>>106447821
>but userbenchmarks says
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>>106447833
ok what other site do I use
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>>106447848
techpowerup
gamersnexus
guru3d
3dmark
anything but userbenchmark
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>>106447861
ok I looked at benchmarks on gamernexus and it might be more like a 50% increase or more
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>>106447821
x3d is a gaming cpu not a cpu cpu
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>>106447890
all I know is that my current one, the 5800X is not good enough anymore to play my favorite game WoW. (yes laugh at me Im a boomer).
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>>106447900
That's quite strange, a 5800X should be overkill for a game like WoW, what are your other PC specs like?
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>>106447900
>WoW
Yeah that old ass shit is CPU bound bigly
You'll benefit a lot from X3D
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>>106447821
>userbenchmarks says
no
>>106447885
sounds about right
i upgraded from a 5800X to a 14700K and it's consistently 40-60% faster in gaming
9800X3D should be even better
>>106447890
retarded mindset
would be nice if it had more cores but everything a 9700X can do the 9800X3D does better
>>106447900
5800X was fine for me in dragonflight
since you're a self-admitted boomer i'm gonna ask if you've turned on XMP
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>>106447913
>9700X can do the 9800X3D
NO SHIT both 8 cores and X3D is 2x the price
can't fuck with a cheaper 9900X at proper cpu non gaming shit
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>>106447927
i would also rather have a 9900X with tuned RAM
but i see people saying all the time "the X3D is ONLY for gaming! you should ONLY buy the X3D for gaming!"
like no, it's still a better chip? all cpus are cpu cpus (whatever that is supposed to mean)
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>>106447909
wow is badly optimized in raid settings with 20 players casting shit. its super cpu heavy. I have a 5070ti

>>106447910
yea I know but my initial thought was, if I have to spend so much money on a new cpu and only would get a 25% improvement, it wouldnt be worth it

>>106447913
it was ok for me in dragonflight as well but holy fuck you should play the new raids. its such a fuck fest with my current cpu. i drop to 20fps even when I put down the resolution

>XMP
Im not sure if I have. is it important?
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>>106447987
>holy fuck you should play the new raids
i think i'm good
>Im not sure if I have. is it important?
yes, wow scales with fast memory (all MMOs do)
go into task manager, select performance > memory
what speed is it running at?
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>>106444504
Don’t forget the secret S-tier he mentions in the video: Day 1 9070XT’s for $600, only way to have really won this gen, I guess.
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>>106448080
9070xXT's are MSRP everywhere besides America.
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>>106448088
That’s good to hear
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>>106448049
2133mhz
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>>106448124
That’s the DDR4 default speed, use expo in your BIOS to unlock your full speed, that will really help.
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>>106448124
go into BIOS and enable XMP
might be called DOCP if you're on ASUS
should help quite a bit
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>>106448131
Going to be hard to find XMP on an AMD board lol
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>>106448151
it's called XMP on gigabyte/msi/asrock
have people already forgotten that EXPO isn't a thing on AM4
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>>106447405
I did have a 1080 ti
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>>106447987
>wow is badly optimized in raid settings with 20 players casting shit
Don't forget you can drop raid graphics settings separately of the rest of the game. But as >>106447910 points out WoW is one of the examples where the extra cache does actually help performance a lot.
>>106448124
>2133mhz
And yeah. Max out what you already have before jumping to a new platform and buying the top-end CPU.
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r8
already have the gpu in my am4 build, everything else id be buying new
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>>106448247
why not meshify 3 xl
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>>106448266
solid black version of the 3xl does not appear to be in stock anywhere and I don't into rgb
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>>106447338
.... isn't ray tracing an optional feature that doesn't need to be turned on?
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>>106448295
nta, but it's available on newegg right now
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>>106448323
ty anon i see that now. it appears there are 2 SKUs. one for tinted glass and one for clear glass. i prefer tinted and that one is in fact in stock.
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>>106448337
solid side panel variant is also available.
https://www.newegg.com/fractal-design-atx-full-tower-meshify-3-xl-steel-pc-case-black-fd-c-mes3x-01/p/N82E16811352231
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I think I enjoy the process of learning about and thinking about building a computer more than I would actually having it. I have become an eternal waitfag, I get pleasure from thinking about the computer I will build and keep putting it off so I can keep fantasizing.
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The 265K costs £265
The 285K should therefore cost £285 but it costs £500
I'll email intel to let them update the price
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>>106448385
This is when you buy weird ewaste to make semi functional systems
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>>106448385
you just need to build a top of the line one so you can get into autistic benchmarks and hardware configs
we all know you won't be gaming on it
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>>106448385
The longer you wait™, PC components just get better.
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>>106448130
>>106448131
>>106448226
ok so its DOCP? I went into BIOS and the only options I have are Auto, Manual and DOCP.
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>>106448430
based ewaste enjoyer
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>>106448516
Yep DOCP.
Good Luck AM4 doesn't exactly like playing nice with it, depending on your ram kit.
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>>106448585
how will I notice if it doesnt work? will my system crash?
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>>106448593
pretty much. It'll be very unstable.
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>>106448600
wtf why did you guys recommend it to me then...
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>>106448585
>Good Luck AM4 doesn't exactly like playing nice with it
1st gen maybe
he won't have any problems
>>106448608
why did you buy XMP memory if you didn't want to use XMP memory
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>>106448608
That's part of overclocking. I've got prime95, HWiNFO, and other benchmarking/stress testing tools specifically to verify overclocking stability.
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ARL it's tempting
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>>106446104
>custom loop
Isn't the maintenance (which I guess is every 2 years or so) a little annoying?
Also I'm pretty clueless but I'd assume most AIB PCBs never see a waterblock made for them
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The CPU situation is pretty horrible you can't just spend money and get the perfect high end CPU.
It should be the 9950X3D, but it's not.

You have to choose gaming vs productivity
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>>106448777
it has always been this way since the first intel hedt where intel launches hedt cpus 1 gen late versus the mainstream gen
>horrible
it just means cpus are differentiated
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>>106448770
Maybe if you don't put in a drain port, but if done right it's ezpz.

For me personally, it's the MO-RA 600
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>>106448943
>MO-RA 600
very cool
I bet you don't have to think about cooling at all unless user error or the pump fails, and the latter should be less likely than with AIOs
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ok cool. the DOCP thingy increased my performance a bit. whats next? should I try to overclock my cpu?
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>>106448988
make sure your memory overclock is stable, download OCCT or something equivalent and run the memory stability test
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I just went back from Windows 11 iot LTSC to Windows 10 iot LTSC. I created another partition to do this since it won't let you downgrade from 11. But, now the drive won't let me add the over 800gb of storage space from Windows 11. It will only let me add the 30gb in front of it on disk management. How do I fix this?
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damn this is kinda cute. I just got some noctua fans I'm happy with. their coolers are so expensive tho, idk if I should replace my thermalalright.
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Tired of looking at 15 different mobos bros. I had a mobo I wanted a few months back and went to buy finally and found out about PCI 5.0e today and lost my mind.

I have a Micro ATX tower I ain't gonna change.

Gonna grab a cheap Intel Core i5-14600K from my brother.

How is this mobo and this GPU?
>ASRock B760M PRO RS WiFi LGA 1700 Intel B760 Micro ATX Motherboard

>MSI Ventus GeForce RTX 5070 12GB GDDR7 PCI Express 5.0 Graphics Card RTX 5070 12G VENTUS 2X OC


Also, can anyone explain what the fuck happened to RAM since I last built a PC in 2018?

What the fuck is CL30 and CL34

If I go with DDR5-6000 CL30 I'm good right?

I just want to game at 1440p/60fps max settings on games.
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>>106449008
testing my memory with OCCT right now. whats a good test setup? I have it at 80% right now.
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>>106448777
>'t just spend money and get the perfect high end CPU.
>It should be the 9950X3D
any X3D chip will blow your mind? if you need more you're gonna need a farm
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>>106448987
the point is yeah massive rad, also, you can put it in another room. It has two pumps so you have some redundancy, but you should also setup an automatic shutoff based on water temp. For example on my system now it will shut the PC off if the water temp goes over 45 degrees.
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>>106449062
that should be fine, you're not doing any crazy overclocking, as long as it doesn't return any errors in that hour long test, you're most likely okay
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>>106448430
omg I was thinking the same. have u found a use for that?
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>>106449079
if the memory works fine should I try to overclock my Ryzen 7 5800X with the PBO mode? I read that its kinda safe and doesnt require much testing. or is manuel overclocking always better?
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>>106449077
>>106448943
Is that really necessary or just for fun? I have a 200x400mm/140x420 radiator setup and my 5090/12900ks stay cool. I cant imagine the temps would be more than 5 degrees better. Even maxing the fans in mine make very little difference over a moderate speed.
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>>106449092
you can try it, make sure to check temps with OCCT running the CPU test after you enable PBO, the 5800X can draw a lot of power without setting up curve optimizer
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>>106449138
>4 hours and 45 minutes to upscale 1080p30 > 4k60 on a 5090 with topaz ai
Someone please tell me there is a better alternative that does this faster with the same quality
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>>106449205
I didn’t mean to reply
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>>106449205
RTX VSR is pretty good and realtime, you can use it for mpc and vlc too.
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>>106449219
RTX super resolution is good until you compare it to anything upscaled using the Prometheus model in topaz. It’s hard to go back.
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>>106449080
NAS+VM host.
I'm mostly in it for the PCIe lanes.
You get 3 real 16x slots and 3 real 8x slots.
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>>106448777
>It should be the 9950X3D, but it's not.
it is though? it's the same shit as 9800x3d but with more cores for productivity
do you want even more cores or what
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>>106449112
MO-RA 600 is overkill, but as you know the 5090 is a little space heater when doing AI stuff. My internal rads can keep it cool but I don't need the extra heat in my office and I can still hear the fans, with this setup, you'll get nothing but no talkie.

Also you can do fun SFFP builds like pic rel
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>>106449432
Yea the heat is quite amazing. 200mm fans are very quite. I'm quite happy I switched to them.
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>>106449469
post your setup if you have a pic. What case are you fitting all those rads in? One or two pumps?
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What are some secret tricks to speed up Windows?
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>>106449508
red LEDs, but be careful with those
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>>106449495
One pump and a slightly modified HAF 700 EVO. I got rid of the dumb looking front screen ans drilled some mounting holes for the 200x400mm top radiator, 420x40mm on the bottom. I'm using soft tubing right now for the GPU until I know everything is working correct. colors look all fucked up in pic but here it is.
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so the taichi lite isn't getting a new bios from assrock?
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>>106449514
this wisdom is ancient
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>>106449601
thats hot
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>>106449601
Nice. Also nice GPU support :)

I changed my setup so many times I'm not sure I even want to go hard tubing on the SFFPC. 10/16 is the way to go on hard tubing correct?
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>>106449676
Yea that's what I use. Slowly my PC is evolving to a more function over form use. I went full polish originally, but now have backed off a bunch. The 200x400mm radiator and fans are a bit ugly but the performance to noise is worth it, and I care far less about cable management. I may even dump the hard lines eventually. They are a pain in the ass.
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5600X + 6700XT
and not upgrading
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>>106449051
>How is this mobo and this GPU?
>>ASRock B760M PRO RS WiFi LGA 1700 Intel B760 Micro ATX Motherboard
It's fine.

>>MSI Ventus GeForce RTX 5070 12GB GDDR7 PCI Express 5.0 Graphics Card RTX 5070 12G VENTUS 2X OC
Get the ASUS Prime 5070 if the price difference isn't too much.

>If I go with DDR5-6000 CL30 I'm good right?
Intel CPUs can get a bit faster memory kit, consider 6400MT/s CL32 if the price difference isn't too much.
You can even get 6800MT/s CL34, but the premium may not be worth it if you're not manually tuning it.

>6400MT/s options
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p9CZxr/teamgroup-t-create-expert-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6400-cl32-memory-ctced532g6400hc32adc01
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/J7MMnQ/klevv-bolt-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6400-cl32-memory-kd5agua80-64a320h

>6800MT/s
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/v626Mp/klevv-bolt-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6800-cl34-memory-kd5agua80-68a340h
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Nicely done, Gigabyte...
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>Bought 5070 ti cuz Im a compfag cs2 nigger and fell for the reflex meme
>Get constant stutters and crashes no matter which driver version and even with reinstalled windows
>Days of troubleshooting and no fix
>Switch to 9070 XT
>Locked 240hz and the frametime graph is literally a straight line
Well that was a week of hell but at least it's over now lmao
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>>106449957
What rubber spacers?
It seems they forgot to put the pad on the bank of 3 memory chips
Shitty construction all around for that particular GPU (3060?)
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looking to build a workhorse of a PC in an SFF case for heavy ms office app usage, mainly excel.

9950x
32gb ram
2tb nvme ssd
idk what mother board is good in this case... does that even matter?

do I need a GPU? no right since the CPU has integrated graphics already. is this overkill or pretty much good to go for the rest of its life
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>>106449996
>Excel
>9950X
How many trillions of cells do your spreadsheets have, anon?
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>>106449996
Just get an intel core ultra 7 265k
It's just as fast for Excel at a fraction of the price
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>>106450004
it needs to open multiple shitty unoptimized workbooks. maybe worse than a trillion cells
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>>106449966
At least share a believable shitpot.
A regular 5070 was sustaining over 240Hz @ 1440p before the performance boosting August game patch.
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>>>106445486
>>106444849

I only have ssd connected with15-25gb free.

>>>106444895
I mean this is original soulstorm, not definitive edition.
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> >MOTHERBOARD
> Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.
isnt this limited to x3d chips? asrock a620i is the only good budget option here, thought to pair it with 7600x
t. planning to update my itx build to am5
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>>106450169
Less likely to happen, good luck.
https://old.reddit.com/r/ASRock/search?q=7600x&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevance&t=all
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>>106450184
well that sucks, mb it was fixed with bios updates, or alteast reduced the risk of it. I'll probably still gamble with asrock bc the only alternative in my price range is the gigabyte mobo with 1(one) fucking m2 slot
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Fuck my retard life, the MOBO I got only has USB 3.2 Gen1 ports, and NO Gen2. The ASRock B650M-H/M.2+.
How fucked am I if I want to use external SSDs for storage and gaming? If it's only a 5Gbit (real world 420mb/s) connection.
I tried Oblivion Remastered from my old SSD in an external usb-c casing, and it seemed to load fast and perform well, but would it perfect even better and load even faster off of my main drive?
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>>106447143
I don't think so no plus it does not affect objects would it
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>>106450295
>How fucked am I if I want to use external SSDs for storage
Big transfers will take longer. But how often are you actually doing that and not just reading some low bitrate data stream like a video off of it?
>and gaming?
You would be hard pressed to notice a difference for gaming. But I don't know why you aren't using an internal drive for that.
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Alright how's this, I have a nvme ssd already, but just put that there for a complete look. seems kind of expensive as a build once excel workhorse
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>>106444346
>High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
Noctua doesn't list G2 for 120mm. Am I blind, do they not exist or what?
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>>106450425
Go AMD+Nvidia.
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>>106450427
it came out a few months ago while the 140mm version is like one or two years old
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>>106450414
>why you aren't using an internal drive for that.
I got my PC assembled for me on a custom order, and my warranty only holds if I keep the antitamper stickers on for 24 months. After these 24m I can open it and do whatever, and still get my remaining 12-36 months for some of the parts like memory and GPU.
Anyways I'm reusing my old Samsung 980 from my old PC as an external. Basically I want to treat it as yet another drive for my PC.
>okay for gaming
That's good!
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>>106450425
american and intel bundle?
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>>106450450
no, trump is bringing intel back. im not buying from those chinks at amd and nvidia

>>106450471
whats this? theres the GPU bundle w/ bf6
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>>106450425
I would do this but I'm not that strong, best of luck.
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Is this good? Ordered this because adata and gskill have high faliure rate in local store reviews.

I know i need cl30 6000 for am5 but picking actual vendor is tedious.

https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-6000MHz-PC5-48000-SP032GXLWU60AFDE/dp/B0CLVCLYK4?th=1

Any recommendations?
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>>106450514
>because adata and gskill have high faliure rate in local store reviews.
xisters....? Did I make an oopsie?
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>>106450514
im no nerd about these things, but I have silicon power ram in my 7800x3d 7900gre build right now.

I also have teamgroup ram in my 9800x3d 5070ti. I think teamgroup ram is made by hynix. hope that helps you sleep at night. both 6000 cl30 btw
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>>106450514
nigger THEY’RE LITERALLY ALL THE SAME HYNIX MEMORY CHIPS
it doesn’t matter
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>>106450457
Ok was blind and chromax doesn't exist yet.
The performance looks impressive but sadly they aren't using G2's for their coolers yet..
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>>106448430
This man knows.
Working on an airgapped XP setup as we speak to edit footage from my casio exilim in Vegas 7 for that authentic aughties crust
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>>106450514
>gskill have high faliure rate in local store reviews
depends on the SKU. absolutely avoid ddr5 samsung b-die 6000cl36 since they have very questionable stability at or above 6000mhz
>>106450530
since its hynix 24gbit m-die you should be good
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So what cheap UPS should you buy in the EU? Looking at APC BX2200MI-GR or Green Cell UPS05. There's also a much more expensive APC one for "gaymers" called BGM2200B-GR.
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>>106450425
honestly just buy a miniforum PC. Buy the MS-A1 if you want to "build" it
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X3D is not important!
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I should buy the 1000W psu right?
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>>106450864
No, that's more expensive.
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Is ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 5070 Ti a good choice for 874 euros?
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>>106444346
AMD CPU + Nvidia GPU still the go-to meta?
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>>106450961
Yes if you're a windows tranny.
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>>106446671
I feel it might be more just that most of those who don't need absolute peak performance don't really need a new CPU in general, so the rest are bought by those who didn't already have a decent one.
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Would I feel any improvement moving from a 7600X to a 7800X3D in gaming?
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I need a FAT 2.5 SATA SSD for fairly even read/write pattern workloads but I'm not sure which I should buy since apparently those Samsung 870s are shit
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>>106450989
Get a 9800X3D.

>7600X to a 7800X3D in gaming
But yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHPzgECmOQw
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>>106451001
Crucial MX500 if you need a SATA SSD
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>>106451007
Eh, that's too expensive right now. I guess it's not just higher frame rates, but more consistent frame times too, right? I only have a 7800 XT, but I often see the GPU usage drop to 90-85% in Warzone for example, I guess X3D could help in these situations.
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>case
AP201, LL A3, Jonsbo D31.
If money is no object and all I want is QUIET operation with least dust intake possible, which one would you choose?
Any other reasonable options that have a small footprint that are NOT LISTED IN OP?
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>>106451022
More consistent and also higher 1% and 0.1%.
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>>106451036
Damn, why are they almost double in price...
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I'm gonna get a new PC in 2 weeks and after a month of researching, I decided on this build:
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yDbkMC
Any advice or questions are welcome
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>>106451022
>but more consistent frame times too, right
the best way to get that is through memory OCing, which you can also do on your 7600x
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Why does the CPU matter if 99% of the time you're being GPU bottlenecked and the CPU isn't anywhere near 100% utilisation?
I'm thinking these X3D things are only worth it if you're pushing 500 FPS in CS or something.
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>>106451053
I'm running 6000MHz modules in dual channel, didn't touch the timings though, XMP enabled.
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>>106451054
It's not just the utilization, but the speed of cores that matter. A game most probably won't 100% a modern CPU, but if the cores running faster, you get better performance. GPU might running on 100%, but it won't show you the dips and stuff.
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>>106451060
the gains are mostly from tightening primary, secondary and tertiary timings and a bit more performance can be gained from OCing the fclk
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>>106451077
Is it difficult? Never done it before. Also fclk you too!
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>>106451075
Is my 9600 good enough for midrange gaming? Paired with an RTX 5070. Anything X3D is way too expensive and I didn't see the point, when I would have to downgrade my GPU instead to stay within my 1500€ budget.
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>>106451087
its very easy if you have 6000cl30 hynix 16gbit a-die or 24gbit m-die
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>>106451097
I have a Kingston 6000Mhz CL36 I think...
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>>106451103
its ogre
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>>106451091
I guess it's fine, unless you want to play on 300+ 400+ FPS for no fucking reason at all.
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>>106451118
My monitor is 1440p180Hz and I can't hit that in most games anyways. Plenty of games are locked at 60 too, like MGS Delta.
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any advances in passive air cooling technology beyond two bricks with 2 fans hugging it?
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>>106451054
see >>106451036 and >>106451007
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>>106451157
Did you mean active? Fans aren't passive cooling.
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>>106451157
might have to wait 30 years for the next big upgrade
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>>106450852
>I hate san- I hate silicon!
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>>106451103
C36 usually means Samsung which, while better than Micron, doesn't like to tighten much. You could push it to 6200 to boost the fclk but don't expect big gains on the timings. Lots of XMPs have pretty crappy secondaries so there may be some low-hanging fruit there if you care to do the work.
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>>106451052
rm1000x for intermittent spikes from that 5070ti? breddy gud build though
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>>106451222
>rm1000x for intermittent spikes from that 5070ti?
Can you elaborate a bit more? I might upgrade my GPU in the future but I thought 1000W seemed overkill.
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I need a SATA SSD for my dad but MX500 seems to no longer be sold and he has a personal vendetta against Samsung - what else is TLC and reputable again?
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>>106444346
reminder to return or sell your PNY gpu before shit hits the fan
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>>106451240
this is what ponyfuckers deserve.
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>>106451240
107C pcb hotspotting
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>>106451247
this is only a pcb surface measurement. expect the internals of the capacitors to be another 15-25C hotter than this
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>>106451244
brony site
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>>106451324
>>106451324
>>106451324
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>>106444583
Team green keeps on winning.
Stay mad poors.



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