now that all the cracked apps, fdroid, magisk, root and bootloader unlock are going away, where are we going?iOS?https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2025/08/elevating-android-security.htmlhttps://developer.android.com/developer-verification
>>106445714At this point it's build your own cyber deck and plug in a cheap Android phone for calls, bank apps and network sharing.All the libre phones have shitass hardware, all the commercial phones are locked up.
This needs to come to Windows 12 too. Scammers need to be forced to go legit and improve their lives by cleaning toilets instead of stealing.
Brazilians are cucks
this is what happens when you put them in charge of your companies
>>106445714How are they going away? This is all starting next year, we'll have to see what happens. Bootloader unlocking and rooting really has gone away for the majority of phones though.
Pixel + graphane>Shrimple as
>>106445891Wish they weren't all like $1000.
>>106445912Don't buy the newest gen
>>106445891Graphene is not Certified (TM) sis, sorry
>>106445948The older gens aren't exactly known for being affordable either, that's the problem.
I already use Chinese phones. My next one will be a Huawei.
>>106446061Seen some for less than half of what you're claiming
>think of it like the airport>where they anally probe and interrogate you about how you are, where you’re going and everything you’re planning to do the state of Google
How is any of this going away? Isn't Android still Free Software? Patch this garbage out and forget Google ever tried this.
>>106447311That's what most custom ROMs are doing. This will affect normies first and foremost
>>106447311Play Services isn’t, and it’s required for a lot of things people use their phone for, like banking apps and half a dozen other things. They won’t run on non-Google approved hardware/software.
>>106445714i've been debating unlocking my phone's bootloader while i still can and take the fall with my banking app but get to conserve my freedom for years later unless google decides to stop, but something tells me they're going to double down on it
>>106446084they don't sell for reasonable prices in my country, closest thing is motorola
>>106447654I'm sorry fren, they are fairly reasonable here
>think of it like an ID check at the airportYou know, the thing people famously love doing, the thing they famously love going through, airport security
>>106447628So just call the bank or use a web browser instead of some gay app?Banks all have web interfaces.
>>106447820there are app only fintech banks like revolut
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>>106445714Why is Brazil mentioned so much on this topic? surely the piracy and malware problem there can't be worse than other places where android has a higher market % like Southeast Asia or Russia?
>>106447841If you put your money in such a hole you deserve to get got next time SVB goes under.
>>106447999>put your money in the old banks goy, don’t let these new ones take away our shek- i mean share of the market
>>106448177I advocate keeping your 'money' as gold and silver.
>>106445714I've been meaning to ask, other than de-Googling, what's the use case? Are there certain apps that are worth installing, but will never be on the Play store for various reasons?
>>106449617Ad-free Youtube clients, which is probably a big part of why they're doing this
>>106445714dumb phone. I will NOT bend the knee to either apple or poogle.
>>106447919It’s because the country is turning into a de-facto aristocratic dictatorship and the State is looking for any and all ways to take complete control of every aspect of people’s lives.
>>106445891>buy a google phone to avoid google (???)
>>106445714i take it the solutions are: stay on lower android, buy huawei which will maintain sideloading or use a custom rom?
>>106445714>where are we going?I'm planning to quit every digital-related shit and unironically start touching grass outside. Still gonna need the bare minimum for calls, sms, emails, and office related stuff but not anything beyond thatThese jews and jeets won't be getting anything from my wallet
>>106446004Yeah, no way to get Android Pay or many banking apps and you know they will be the first to get onboarded to the latest hardware attested SafetyNet bullshit.It is looking more and more like one GrapheneOS phone to use primarily and have a small android phone with long battery life to use for just banking apps and Google Wallet.
>>106445891I'm not battling battery woes after paying over $500.
>>106449339What if gets stolen at gunpoint
>>106445714I wonder if it’s possible to have a stay-at-home phone with all the bullshit and graphene or whatever daily phone that simply connects to the other phone if neededyou’d only lose location based services and the ability to pay with your phone, which isn’t a big deal
>>106450370If Huawei can maintain sideloading, Graphene can too. But it comes down to if Google certifies the devices for SafetyNet. As long as you dont care about SafetyNet for whatever reason (and they'll make it increasingly harder to not care because of clientside attestation even in mobile chrome etc) remember web environment integrity? they shelved it only for desktop chrome. they are pursuing it in android webview and platform integrity.
>>106445714Why do people keep bringing iOS up? It's literally worse in that aspect.
>>106447820Lots of banks will sometimes require you to do some form of 2fa via the phone app when you send someone money or anything that matters. This is almost certainly a result of the amount of scamming/scam calls etc that have blown up the last x amount of years.
>>106448177>New ones that get regulated just as much as old ones are betterJust use XMR man
>>106450298>buying an android device to avoid googleprotip: it is to allow sideloading not to avoid google
>>106450512I think it's honestly worth going iphone as your 'banking apps work with this' phone.
>>106450707Yeah, I am warming up to that as well. Keeps the threats separate as well.
>>106450707>What is sandboxed GPS
>>106449643Just use le Brave lion?
>>106450930Still can't just download, have to log in for subscriptions and not privacy or anonymity benefits
