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I think Thinkpad SUCKS!

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>>106447990
T540 on a dock
Mint loonix, latest stable whatever
Doesn't recognize screen when dock is reconnected, only connects the first time it's docked.
Is this perchance a common problem that has been solved 13 years ago?

>>106448652
Same thing happens with my X200. I don't think there's a solution other than rebooting.

>>106448525
>t. NSA when find my RAM & ROM secured by epoxy.

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>>106448687
You did help me in a way.
Got me thinking why not just restart the monitor instead of reboot the whole thing.
>xrandr --output eDP-1-2 --off
>xrandr --output eDP-1-2 --left-of eDP-1 --auto
>check names with xrandr --listmonitors
Dick around with udev and make it trigger this on dock.

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>>106371225
I got my C13. First impressions are good. aluminum shell and lid, feels very solid. Display is gorgeous (from my limited experience).

Loading the modified coreboot CFW from MrChromebox/Chrultrabook project was simple. Put Debian 13 with KDE on there. It's a Ryzen 3700C w/16GB RAM and 256GB Nvme.

Audio setup had a minor hitch. Short version, had to symlink a config file that gets installed to the wrong folder.

The Chromebook keyboard is a little odd, but I can adjust. There's another script in the chrultrabook documentation to get F1-11 keys on the top row instead of the Chromebook function keys.

Haven't fooled with screen rotation/pen input yet but it's next on my testing list after I install a few creature comforts and configure the DE behavior.

Very, very close in size to my old X230, and smaller than the salvaged L390Y I fixed and will eventually pass on to somebody else.

(X230 top in stack, C13 under that, L390Y bottom)

>>106448781
Why would the NSA be after you?

is the t14s gen 4 still worth getting? it's on sale for about €1000 at lenovo

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>16 inch 2560x1600 at 165hz
or
>14.5 inch 3800x1920 at 120hz

?

>>106450925

im retarded i meant 3072x1920

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>just purchased T14 G2 on local marketplace
>the seller is out of it so they gonna send me L14 G2 R5 with some cashback
how fucked am I?

16 inch... bigger screen and a resolution that will not require you to scale UI

couple days ago got my first thinkpad for 70$ its x230 with dock
love it

>>106450428
Only if you needs that extra performance. The "buying 3+ years old Thinkpad" meta gives more bang for your bucks.

>6bit 45%NTSC

>>106450949
Only drawbacks are shallower keyboard and smaller battery

>>106452039
Didn't they all get the shallower keyboard with G2 anyways? btw I have an L14 G5 and it's not too bad IMO, then again I don't have a comparison to the previous version and the only other StinkPad that I have is a T420.

>>106452232
T14/T15/L13/P15/P17 kept 1.8mm for G2 afaik

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Can I use a ThinkPad for gaming?

>>106452561
I played Minecraft and GTA:SA on a T420, so the question is what do you mean by "gaming".

>>106452567
Counter Strike 2 and shit like that.

>>106452665
You can run CS2 on a potato. You'll probably be disappointed by the pixel response time and screen refresh unless you're using an external monitor.

>>106447990
I have a T460, only issue is in a have a docking station and laptop has no USB-C. What's a baste Thinkpad model that has USB-C ports and still has Ethernet port?

>>106453093
Depends on the budget really:
>T480
>P/T14 Gen 2
>P/T14 Gen 5 (AMD)

these are the usual recommendations. Otherwise consider getting a dock with an ethernet jack.

>>106448856
How is the temps? I've been thinking of getting C13 since no one sells thinkpad yoga with ryzen here. Mine L13 is basically an oven

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Are Zbooks typically built better than Elitebooks?

>>106452561
you can play no games on thinkpad, it's business machine

>768p
>quad core 1.8 ghz
>8gb ram
Wtf is this crap, whats the best MODERNLY SPECCED thinkpad? Don’t care if it is soldered

>>106455638
Take your pick of the latest P1 (16"), P14s Intel (14.5"), T14s (14") or X13 (13").

Not that you can't get nearly modern specs in models up to 4-5 years old, you just have to read listings carefully and maybe buy some ram on your own.

Are there any good 13" (or smaller) thinkpads? My current laptop (15") barely fits on the tray table on an airplane

>>106455118
I've been meaning to look at those, it's on my list. I'll get some stats for you later tonight.

Touch input works, trying to figure out why the pen doesn't at the moment.

>>106452773
>You can run CS2 on a potato
This was true of CSGO but not CS2. I tried playing on a 3200g with 16 gigs of ram, I was getting 30-60 fps with constant microstutter and screen tearing. The update forced me out of the game

>>106456071
Nothing smaller than 13" unless you get into tablet shit/detachable keyboard models. But 13" screen doesn't mean all 13" models have the same physical dimensional footprint. Z13 and X1 Nano are very small 13" laptops with tiny bezels, there's like an inch or more difference between them and say, an L13. An X13 is somewhere in between and will vary from generation to generation.

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what is the bare minimum thinkpad for running a light home server for local fileshare, dns, video streaming and game server hosting?

>>106456646
X220/W520/T430, or if you're poor and don't need USB 3, T410 etc. Anything older will have trouble transcoding video.

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>>106447990
Just bought this piece of shit after drinking /g/ koolaid.
>cheap plastic gets fingerprints everywhere
>trackpad inaccurate
>windows lol
>mouse 1 and 2 cheap, loud
>can't open from closed position without two hands

For $500 you can just buy a used mbp that blows this piece of shit out of the water. Using Windows is a total nightmare, even after downgrading from 11 to 10. I could run Linux, but I'm straight, don't wear thigh high socks nor do I have a crippling need to feel unique.

do not recommend

>>106453093
T480 or A485 if you prefer AMD. I have both, happy with both
>>106456646
you're not gonna need a lot for a home server. I'd still recommend something a bit newer than a x230 if you're gonna do video streaming because hardware encoding is nice on slightly more recent machines (I can't remember if sandy/ivy have h264 hw encoding or not)
like for my other quote look into those 2 models, especially for game server hosting since you'll be able to put more RAM inside them (they can take 64GB). more RAM can also be useful for filesharing if you're gonna use zfs, and they can both hw encode h264/h265
>>106456947
>I could run Linux, but I'm straight, don't wear thigh high socks
Artix might be up your alley then. it's Linux but for straight chuds (not using that as an insult, I use Artix myself). and if you're straight why would you want a Mac anyway? do I need to remind you that both Steve Blowjobs and Tim Cock were/are faggots?

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picked up a pair of cheap t470s, i7-6600u 8gig of ram and running windows 11 pro, but damn its pretty slow. im thinking of installing some linux distro to it, currently use it for school going through electrical engineering so i should probably get some experience in linux. Also want to replace the batteries as they are getting weak and im only getting maybe 2 hours of very light use out of the thing.

>>106457005
I'd only swap the external battery for now if I were you. you can find 72Wh batteries on ebay for like 45usd. bought 2 of those for my Thinkpads and I get pretty good battery life out of them (my internal batteries both have roughly 20Wh capacity out of 24)

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>>106457042
mine only has the 2 internal batteries, i think its the regular t470 that uses an external type battery.

>>106456975
>and if you're straight why would you want a Mac anyway
Because it's literally the white working man's product of choice because... it just works. People that are actually building shit are using vscode on a mbp. People that talk about building shit are running linux.

>>106457131
>Mac
>straight white
pick one because mac sure as shit isnt the poster child of white and straight. More geared to the brownoid lgbtqhjhfyskjsntu++ crowd

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>>106457104
ah when you said "a pair of cheap t470s" I thought you meant two T470, not the T470s model kek
>>106457131
if only you knew how bad things really are

>>106447990
>theres a thinkpad general
are you fucking serious? why? is this for personal cloud/NAS shit? i coudl not think of a single reason otherwise

>>106457191
ahh ya i see that now lol.
seems like the only good place to buy a battery is ifixit but damn im not sure i want to drop 120 bucks on a pair of batteries for a 100 dollar laptop

>>106457273
Thinkpads are very comfy to use
>>106457324
are you able to tell me the SKU of the 2 batteries inside yours? I'll check if the ebay seller I buy my batteries from has them. just looking for "t470s" I can only find the top one, not the larger one at the bottom

>>106457348
ThinkPad T470s Front Battery - 00HW022
T470s Rear Battery - 01AV462
although my rear says 01av405 but i thing the 462 is just an updated part

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>>106457384
I was looking and I managed to find both, the 01av405 also goes by 00hw024 it seems
top battery: https://www.ebay.com/itm/384267889197
bottom battery: https://www.ebay.com/itm/384389784930
my two Thinkpads have batteries I bought from that seller (one is ~10 months old, the other one I received last week) and I've had no issues with them so far. picrel is the older one, in 10 months it lost 2.5Wh, sounds acceptable to me (ignore the reported design capacity though, it's just my power manager reporting it wrong, sometimes it changes it to 24 or 72 too kek)

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>>106457273
It's as simple as Thinkpad design team still being primarily from Japan.

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>>106457428
Thank you. just ordered them for one of the laptops. hopefully this helps improve the battery life so I can get through one lab session without having to charge it. Well im off to try and install linux for my first time, pic related.

Can I put thinkpad's trackpad sticker on a Latitude? Dell's trackpad feels like a sandpaper in comparison to thinkpad, holy shit

I was thinking of getting a cheap laptop to do some coding and retro gaming while I'm at work. Could i get some recommendations or links for a good thinkpad between $150-$200?

Been using Dell Latitudes (14-15", I7, Quadro) for the past 15 years because my former employer.
When they're past extended warranty, I manage to keep them for personal use, upgrade them a bit until.
Now my family is asking me 4 so wanted to give it a try to Thinkpads. Requisites:
- 15" ideal, 14" minimum
- Compatible with Mint and Win11
- Not very old/underpowered (I7 ideal) so i can upgrade them later
- Usb3/thunderbolt to use Dell D6000 dock

Where should i start? T14/15? What gen?

>>106456114
>>106455118
temps seem fine. about 36C on boot up/idle. Put on a Youtube video in 1440p and let it run for a few minutes, it only ever hit about 47C. If I scrub around in it, it will go up to around 50.

Anything in particular you want me to test?

The keyboard is taking a little getting used to. I think I'm going to remap a few more keys. I don't need the "lock" button (i'll just let it auto-lock on idle or shut the lid), but I do need a Delete key, lol. I only realized it later that the workflow Chromebook keyboards want you to use is the "Search [Left Meta] + Backspace" and that's just not going to do.

No Caps Lock is also kind of weird (again, it's the Search/Meta button for this keyboard). I think I'll remap it to capslock like a normal keyboard. I use a Model M at my desk so I've never used a Meta key in my life, all my keyboard shortcuts rely on shiff/ctrl/alt modifiers.

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Any non-poorfags looking forward to this?

>>106456071
Very happy with my Z13 after years of carrying around a P50.
It's smaller than an A4 sheet and quite thin.

>>106459494
Looks like the same flawed designs as in the 2024 models. Soldered wifi across the board, pointlessly bottom-loaded keyboards, pointlessly missing Ethernet on the most expensive ones.

If they made one with E-series modularity, T-series CPU choices and replaceable keyboard, and P-series build materials, I'd buy it new.

>>106460204
They are bringing back ethernet port at the very least. We'll see if the wifi card is still soldered or not

>>106447990
>New modern
ThinkPad T14s Gen 1 – Ryzen 7 Pro 4750U | 16GB RAM | 256GB SSD | 14" FHD @ 250€. Is it worth it?

>>106461706
Only if you're sure you won't need more than 16 GB. Soldered, no slots.

>>106461761
I actually think I'll go for a non s version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvRVTli-Lb8

>>106461706
yes but keep in mind that Ryzen 5 5650U is better. If you can get a G2 R5 with similar price you better snitch that one

>>106462041
I found a gen2 for 100€ more but I still wish to replace the keyboard to an US ANSI model and this >>106461804 video made me desist. There's also the added benefit of a better air cooling on a non S model. For instance I found a t14 gen 1 at 280€

>>106461804
ha. that vid

I have the t14 (non-S) gen1 Ryzen Pro 4750U w/32GB RAM and 1TB samsung 970evo
It's a decent machine except Lenovos BIOS will drain battery even if OFF.
It loses about 50% charge per week being off but if you disconnect the battery via the BIOS that goes down to like less than 5%.
Just a stupid odd quirk of the system that Lenovo never straightened out. Support will say absurd things like its a driver problem that the BIOS slurps battery even when off.
Anyway.. It's been a decent machine for me but it doesnt game that well
It's barely OK at fortnight, and other games like Rust are basically unplayable.
I bought it hoping that the built in Vega graphics would let me get some gaming done... but anything more than retro games is going to be tough.

Just thought I'd share

>>106462229
>Lenovo ThinkPad T14 Gen2 Ryzen 5 Pro 2.3GHz 16GB 256GB @ 500€ or x3 166€/mo + 9€ delivery
>Laptop Lenovo ThinkPad T14 Gen 2A Ryzen 5 Pro 16GB 256GB SSD NVMe FHD Touch W11P @ 380€ or x3 128€/mo + 40€ delivery
There are other options which work for my budget but I am unsure how much better gen 2 is over gen 1. My only gaming use case is casual team fortress 2 or running games in android emulator. I'll eventually build a desktop for gaming but I really need a laptop for everyday use (programming/media consumption)

>>106462229
>I bought it hoping that the built in Vega graphics would let me get some gaming done
T14 G3 has 10x better iGPU performance but they drop a lot of features since then. No more ultradock port, no more sd card reader, different keyboard.

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>>106463249
Lenovo seems to treat AMD systems like 2nd class citizens.

Lenovo IdeaPad Slim 3 15.6" Touchscreen Laptop - Arctic Grey (AMD Ryzen 7 5825U/16GB RAM/512GB SSD) 82XM00TECF
is this ok? I just want something that will werk with linux and has a decent battery life. Thinkpads aren't in stock at my local store but this is

>>106462333
There is a small performance difference but what's most noticeable is the battery life. G2 lasts almost 1.5x as long as G1 with light use.

>>106464242
If it'll stay at home most of the time, it's probably okay. Don't buy anything consumer ("small business" included) if you'll be carrying it in a backpack regularly or opening and closing it more than twice a day.

page 9 bump

If anyone with an AES 2 touchscreen display is looking for a stylus, the HP Rechargeable Active Pen G3 costs $10 on eBay.
https://www.delltechnologies.com/asset/en-us/products/electronics-and-accessories/briefs-summaries/Dell_Pen_Compatibility_Brochure.pdf
If it supports 4096 pressure levels, it's AES 2. The PDF lists newer Inspirons with 1024 pressure levels that don't support the PN7522W pen (AES 1+2, while WGP is shown on some pages but not all?), or the PN350M (MPP). I'm assuming they support WGP pens.

I just bought a Chinkpad T480, can't wait till it arrives :3

What's the most modern Thinkpad I should buy that has a reasonable price?

>>106469254
I'm partial to the X1 carbon.
Maybe a yoga variant if thats your jam.
But you can get X1 with 16GB RAM and 500GB drive for $200-400 depending on generation and config.

I just bought a X1 gen 10 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD, 1920x1200 display, i7-1260p for $350 on craigslist last week.

previously I bought a 6th gen x1 for $200 with a quadcore and a 1440 display. Gave it to my pops when I upgraded.

>>106459494
The AMD options are the only choice at this point given how Intel is flailing about

test

I'm looking for a laptop that has a 1366x768 panel but a relatively recent cpu, at least 10 000+ cpu mark.
Is it possible to find something like this?
Basically, high dpi screens really fuck with my eyes, making them constantly refocus. I've been using a 1366x768 laptop for 8 years then switched to a newer laptop with a 1920x1080 screen and started having severe eye strain, with my myopia worsening in the span of 2 months.
I can only comfortably use a low-res screen, it seems. How would you get out of this predicament bros

>>106469757
I don't think DPI is the issue here. PWM is.
Modern panel controls brightness by rapidly turning the screen on and off. Try set the brightness to max and see if it helps.

>>106469776
I did consider this, and found that the new 1920x1080 laptop I used actually didn't have PWM. Currently, I have a Mac Air 15 M4 side by side with a thinkpad e15 (with 1920x1080) from work, and the difference is night and day. It's like when looking at thinkpad screen, I perceive the information being displayed "immediately", while on mac, my eyes constantly refocus on each part of the screen to be able to read. And scaling doesn't help.
With this thinkpad e15 it's also not perfect, with prolonged usage I still get fatigue.

Which model supports 4k 60hz output?

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>>106447990
I come back here every now and then to thanks /g/ for giving me the impetus to buy an actually useful and reliable laptop.

I have literally killed my thinkpad and brought it back to life. I spilled tea inside the vents where it shorted the ACPI. I tore the thing down, I wiped it, isopropyl'd it, and waited a while. It's been working fine ever since. There are plenty of other instances where say, my bag was mistreated and the battery casing was busted. Lo and behold, a quick replacement was available. Another time the keyboard was broken. A key replacement was there. I wanted to swap to azerty: easily done. I needed more ports: here's a cheap dock. Chargers are cheap and plentiful. I know that when I need to move to nu-thinkpad I'll probably suffer, but I'll stay on this laptop for a long while yet.

>>106469757
>I'm looking for a laptop that has a 1366x768 panel but a relatively recent cpu, at least 10 000+ cpu mark.
X13/L13/L14 G1 AMD with R5 or R7, plenty of HD+ panels on those models

>>106469757
>with my myopia worsening in the span of 2 months
why are you asking us about screens?
if you could actually notice your myopia getting worse in such a short span as an adult then there's something incredibly fucked up with your eyes and likely general health. go to the doctor man

Which thinkpad you guys swear by? Is it the t480? I'm a student.

>>106470717
Every model is a compromise, it's up to you to pick one that has the features you need. For this budget and screen size the choice is pretty much between T480, T480s, T470p and T495.

>>106469757
>>106469776
nowadays the problem is often not PWM. that problem has been mostly fixed, although you do still find screen that do it. some newer screen tech is reintroducing it.
the real problem is a thing called temporal (time-based) dithering. basically, the gpu and/or monitor flicker individual pixels back and forth in order to simulate a broader range of colors.
it is very similar to PWM, but the actual mechanism and purpose is different. at the end of the day you are still dealing with what is effectively a quickly flashing light in your eyes. no wonder you feel unwell.
temporal dithering is done on both gpus and monitors themselves. i believe ever modern gpu does it by default and it is difficult or impossible to disable. some monitors do, and others don't.
this is all done so that computers can display more color. as if anyone actually gives a shit. brainless nerds and marketing dorks have destroyed computing. imagine a whole group of people designing hardware or software and not one of them stops to think that perhaps rapid flickering might have a negative effect on our eyes or brain.
it's a complicated topic and not all flickering is bad. it just depends on the frequency of the flickering and the persistence of the light, ie: does it go strictly off and on like an LED or does it pulsate like an incandescent bulb. i am still learning about it and how to deal with it.
consider yourself lucky to be in the elite minority that has the highly attuned nervous system necessary to even perceive this shit. consider yourself unlucky that there are so few of us that manufacturers and developers do not give a shit about us and will continue to produce headache inducing hardware and software.
eventually we will be totally unable to use phones or computers.

bamp