Why is everyone buying a $500 CPU when there are cheaper options with more cores?
>>106455970bc theyre picking the option with more cacheyou dont need that many cores for gamesif theres alot of information to be processed for business logic the rational choice is to delegate that to compute shaders
>>106455970That chart is for people buying retail CPUs. Most of the people assembling their own PC are doing so for gaming reasons. The 3d cache chips are the best chips you can get for gaming. Also, when that chart was made the 9000 series chips were quite a bit more expensive than the 7000 series Zen 4 chips, while not being that much faster. The price of 9000 series chips have dropped a fair bit since then, I bet if you redid the chart for the last few months the 9600x would be a lot higher portion of the sales.
>>106455970OP, that chart is from January, and is just sales from one retailer (Mindfactory in Germany). At that time most of the non-3d cache Zen 5 chips did not make sense to buy, as they were quite a bit more expensive than Zen 4 chips while only being a modest amount faster. The 3d cache version is the only Zen 5 that made sense to buy, for those wanting max game performance. Since then Zen 5 chips has dropped in price by quite a bit and now would make sense to buy to over the Zen 4 chips.
>>106455970For that price I can get a motherboard, 32GB of RAM, and a 9700X.
>>106455970Core count is only going to show big improvements in certain software. A lot of stuff isn’t multi-threaded cause it’s hard and a lot of common processor intensive tasks aren’t suitable for parallelisation. The overhead of setting up threads and tasks means you need a decent chunk of work for threading to be useful.Cache, on the other hand, is used by everything on your PC, regardless of how it’s written, and while the X3D cache isn’t directly comparable to L1 cache, it’s still significantly faster than reaching out to grab shit from RAM, or worse, storage. Games especially benefit from this, especially modern titles where they don’t even bother tweaking Unreal’s default settings to improve things, they definitely don’t do a ton of work on cache locality and preventing cache misses.Realistically however, it’s cause the X3D processors are great for gaming, and AMDs main killer feature they’re marketing. Of course people are gonna prefer the new shiny thing over the normal one
>>106455970Gamers benefit from more cache so they buy X3Dshrimple as
>>106455970Gaming.
>>106455970>>106455993>>106457099>>106457172Reminder AMD only makes ONE CPU and depending on how it passes post production testing is how it's configured and sold. Intel does the same thing.It still boggles my mind how few gaymers know what the silicon lottery is.
>>106458218what are you talking aboutx3d has a totally different layout to the non x3d cores
>>106458488I strongly suspect you don't know the difference.
>>106458488>Adding more cash means the CPU is differentBeing this retarded
>>106455970YouTube and vanity
if conspicuous consoomers didn't overpay for top of the line tiers CPUs you'd have to pay more for your poverty tier CPU.
>>106455970>why are the majority of SKU sales the consumer option?????????????????
>>106460463this
>>106455970Yup it's over we will have will have the same problem as with GPUs soon.
>>106460384>you'd have to pay more for your poverty tier CPU.Completely wrong, where the fuck is Ryzen 3?If this actually helped prices lower then a cpu category wouldn't have disappeared.
>>106460161>more cashbeing this retarded
>>106461477Not a problem. The market wants there to only be one option. People get mad if you want to buy something else.
>>106455970That's what the jewtube told them to buy. The goym do what they're told
>>106461694>Not a problem. The market wants there to only be one option. People get mad if you want to buy something else.I do agree with your logic here, I do disagree with it not being a problem as these are tools, that being said I do NOT want to hear any PC gaming retard complain about video game consoles or apple devices ever again, I am really tired of the virtue signaling.
>>106455970I wish they made AM5 Epyc CPUs more accessible. The platform kind of feels boring right now to be honest.
>>106457332I have 96GB of DDR4, I skipped out on the 5700X3D when it was under $200 and now I have a problem because DDR5 ECC makes no sense cost wise for me right now, but neither is getting an X3D or 5000 series chip with current prices. So I'm stuck in an awkward position.
>>106455970Because they're slaves to Beelzebub. They must consume now! They can't wait until 2026 for Zen 6 which will bring real performance upgrades, unlike this series. They must consume!
>>106463661But they're just gonna buy that too
>>106463542Why did you get 96GB of RAM? Sounds like you could easily make the PC a server, encoding rig, etc. and then build something new.
>>106455970>What causes this to happen?Too many idiots see dramatubers benchmarking on 1080p low using 5090s and believe that they will miss out 30% extra FPS if they don't buy X3D.I still cannot believe how retarded is the average consumer. I do remember that a few years ago, the gaymen PC meta was: get the i5/Ryzen 5, get the most expensive graphics card you can afford. Now it is: X3D or nothing. Like, the average consumer will never noticed the difference, you are paying more today to "future proof" your build. The original X3D proved that this is dumb behaviour, as 12th gen/Zen 4 made them obsolete overnight.Another thing, those numbers are for DYI. A.k.a. meaningless. They sell at most 10k CPUs/month. How many chips do you think Intel/Amd sell per month to Asus, Acer, MSI, HP, Dell, etc? Now you can see that direct retailer numbers are meaningless
>>106463758FPS chasers are approaching audiophile-tier of retardation. People that are already getting 150+fps are throwing hundreds or thousands of dollars at new hardware to get an extra 20fps that they'll never notice.
