>News & Rumors
Microsoft Windows 11 24H2 update may cause SSD failures; DRAMless SSDs are more vulnerable.
If you have a potentially vulnerable SSD, revert Windows update, disable automatic Windows update, & use Registry Editor to set 64 MB HMB allocation policy (or disable HMB).
https://www.neowin.net/news/report-microsofts-latest-windows-11-24h2-update-breaks-ssdshdds-may-corrupt-your-data/

RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

9950x3d!

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>>106456570
>>106456529
>>106456555
>>106456592
let's try this:
https://www.amazon.es/s?i=computers&rh=n%3A937992031%2Cp_n_g-101015533976111%3A100623689031%2Cp_n_g-1003381982111%3A29247713031&s=price-desc-rank&dc&page=2&qid=1756762270&rnid=29247582031&xpid=eSal7P9uotVY8&ref=sr_pg_2

https://www.amazon.es/s?i=computers&rh=n%3A937992031%2Cp_n_g-101015533976111%3A100623689031%2Cp_n_g-1003381982111%3A29247713031&s=price-desc-rank&dc&page=3&qid=1756762251&rnid=29247582031&xpid=eSal7P9uotVY8&ref=sr_pg_3

so last night you guys said I should activate DOCP. I ran a test for 1h and had no errors.
now I wanna activate PBO for my ryzen 7 5800X. any recommended settings?

>>106456625
LG 32GR93U-B
generic gaming ips monitor, nothing special but should work

i just installed a 7800x3d in my system.. what now?

>>106456715
play cs2 with slightly better 1% lows

>>106456691
what about this one, it is taller
https://www.samsung.com/es/monitors/high-resolution/viewfinity-s8-s80d-37-inch-uhd-hdr10-easysetupstand-ls37d800eauxen/

sorry for the long ride, I appreciate your help

>>106456680
Haven't used AM4. But PBO with an undervolt would be a good place to start. Maybe a thermal limit on the high side as well if it doesn't cut into performance. But again. I've only worked with AM5 and 7000/9000 processors. Looks like there are lots of guides online as one might expect.

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>>106456625
>BenQ Zowie XL2566X+ | 24.1 | Fast TN 400Hz Gaming Monitor for Esports | DyAc2 Motion Clarity | 1080p | XL Sharing Adjustment | Shielding Hood | New Height Adjustment
>€1,466.42
>TN
>€1,466.42

>>106456680
You had an ASUS motherboard right?
Might he helpful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIZOFcdGp8s

>>106456765
Id say 32" is the max for desktop use
you might need desk thats deeper than usual to fit a larger monitor
then the gamer monitor has much higher hz which is nice. You dont want 60hz.

>>106456691
isnt that one reported many DOAs

>>106456765
>it is taller
bruh, buy a monitor arm

>>106456789
for that price it should be the 600hz one

>>106456790
yep ASUS ROG Strix B550-E
will watch. thanks

>>106456782
like a 85°C limit?

>>106456791
luckily cinema is 24hz and code can run just fine on 60hz with ease
>>106456800
I need the screen to be tall, the arm doesn't interfere here. it's for fitting a fuckton of code in it, and height is good for that, no necessarily width

>>106456811
>like a 85°C limit?
That's what I have. But again, it can eat into performance a little bit if you're trying to squeeze everything out of the CPU. Just make sure you have the cooling to do so.

I usually just use a laptop with single screen but now since i have another monitor plugged in I'm starting to remember that dual monitor might be a bare minimum
which means if you buy a new monitor you need to literally buy two to match them, and to avoid issues, which will double your cost

buy one monitor might aswell not even buy one at all

buy two or bust

thoughts on this logic?

I need dopaminergic content running on my side monitor at all times, also, no cheap 32" 4k monitors exist it's all just the 27"
idk how they are that much cheaper buy they are

might just buy dual IPS 4k and fuck off for a decade because fuck it, but now I remember I have not even tried LG C4 as a monitor yet, the guy hating on that shit here complained about the subpixels being shit, but being shit is tolerable as long as it does not give eyestrain

so many unanswered questions.... and since you have to try to get any practical knowledge here I might just have to consoom one to try, the C4 42"s are still on sale, although like 70€ more than they were at their lowest

Schizo ramble out, stick around for another episode next time, need to sleep

>>106456838
what if you used a monitor arm and then turn a display vertically
theres a program from microsoft store called screen rotate where you can quickly change the screen orientation

then youd have way more height for when you code

>>106456885
I could probably save a good amount of money that way. But I just kinda want it to do everything at once and to not need to turn it around. I could get my current one turned to the side and then get this one to act as main. I'll research this. Thanks for the idea, I kinda discarded it initially but it can make sense.

>>106456885
>program from microsoft store called screen rotate
alt + arrow keys?

>>106456923
windows removed that ages ago and theres intel specific laptop option thats not available for nvidia
so the app is now the easiest way to get the keybinds for it

>>106456939
I just did it a few days ago on my work laptop (Win 10) by accident

The Hyte Y70 touch is a beautiful fucking case.

https://youtu.be/ANJjoIvA0Ck?si=gUt1OqLSH7jRO2sF

>>106456790
hmm so I used the recommended settings from this video. when I do a test with OCCT the app just doesnt respond anymore. my pc does not crash tho

>>106456960
probably unstable, try setting the curve optimizer magnitude to 20 and if that fails, 10

>>106456680
i remember you

PBO is not gonna help your game performance on a 5800X, the stock limits are already excessive
curve optimizer will help a little bit but be careful using this on the 5800X, the normal clock limits and voltages are already pushed really high
i couldn't run more than -10 CO on my 5800X without random freezes (that 5800X was kinda terrible, but you don't know if yours is any better until you've done a lot of stress testing)

still worth it if it helps you get into the overclocking spirit

>>106456960
>when I do a test with OCCT the app just doesnt respond anymore
yeah that's a crash lol

use case of buying a 9800X3D

>>106457032
PS3/4 emulation

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>>106456973
>>106457000
alright I set it to 20 and the test is running now. my hz didnt really go up.

(thanks for the warnings. if I fail with this Im gonna replace it because yea I also dont like this cpu)

>>106457032
Explosions mostly. It pairs well with the 5090 burning cable.

>>106457045
>my hz didnt really go up
with the -20 curve magnitude, you'll be able to maintain the boost clocks longer without hitting the temperature throttle limits

>>106457045
that's a low frequency, did you lower the power limit to 100 W?
or did you apply a positive CO offset instead of negative CO offset?

5800X all core should be 4.5ish with a negative CO offset
maybe 4.2-4.3 in a power virus like prime95 or OCCT extreme

you also need to do core cycling when tuning CO offsets, OCCT can do this in the CPU test
select "core cycling" under thread settings

>>106457065
frequency should go up in all core
even in single core it should be hitting 4.8 instead of 4.7 consistently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yUDKbF9-ZY

imma watch the whole video

I waited to long to get my XG27ACS and now its back up to 290 usd, do I still get it or swap to something else?

>>106457078
I adjusted the PPT, TDC and EDC limits like in the video and set the all core curve optimizer to negative 20.

Should I buy a piano or build a gaming PC?

alright, after using core cycling I get to 4600mhz

>>106457109
piano, a real value in life, unlike a gaming pc, which is pretty much cyber-drug

>>106457097
keep the limits at default instead
try -20, if it crashes try -15, if it crashes try -10
this isn't as easy as enabling DOCP or copying a youtube video, you're getting into manual overclocking now
just warning you
>>106457114
that still seems very low, you're only loading one core at a time
you aren't thermal throttling either

here's what i believe you should be getting:
>4.2 GHz when running on all cores
4.7-4.8 GHz when running in core cycling mode
4.6-4.8 GHz when gaming

i downloaded the latest win11 iso to have ready for my new pc build, is this also affected by the SSD failures? But if i dont have one of the affected SSDs it doesnt matter right?

>>106457146
set the limits to auto. at -20 I had still no crash but still 4.6ghz in core cycling mode

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help

>>106457086
I'd consider the $230 LG IPS instead. There are some other cheaper options, but check reviews and all.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jXmNnQ/lg-27gs75q-b-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-27gs75q-b

>>106457213
weird but i don't have the 5800X rig plugged in so i can't verify your findings
maybe first step would be to update the BIOS, if you haven't done that before

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>checked my pc order status
>5070ti out of stock updated from arriving in warehouse at 5th september to 17th september all of a sudden
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>106457247
my BIOS is up to date. did i forget to change a settings? its just the three limit settings and the curve optimizer, right?

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>>106457271
you should literally just be able to set the negative curve optimizer to -10 or more and get those frequencies
no other changes
i know there's some variance in silicon quality and stock VF curves but -20 CO should do it for sure
here's an old screenshot i found, it was doing 4.6 on all cores at 140 W (ignore the WHEA error lol, that's caused by the RAM speed not the curve optimizer)

Is anyone here familiar with chinkshit boards with the soldered mobile CPUs that use SODIMMs?

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>>106457268
goyming ain't free, jews gotta pump up the price for thee

>>106457224
sometimes you just need to start over
usb sticks can be fucked and block an OS install

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>>106457302
I set the limits back to the values of the video again and the curve to -15.

you seem to have more volt and watt compared to me

>>106457109
you can tune a piano but you can't tuna cpu

>>106457398
your 5800X seems artificially limited by... something
it shouldn't be the board, that's a strix board after all and it has better VRMs than the AORUS ELITE i was using
and it shouldn't be your cooler either, you mentioned an 85 C limit and you aren't hitting that
i don't know what to tell you, maybe try a CMOS reset or reflash the BIOS again
it should be doing more than that even at stock

>>106457431
oh wait no I didnt set any 85C limit yet. since I just used the values from the video. I just assumed it naturally gets cooler once you undervolt it

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>>106457438
>I just assumed it naturally gets cooler once you undervolt it
no, it will run at the same temperature but with higher clocks
until you hit 90 C

might be better to look at benchmark scores rather than the frequency in OCCT
this is what techpowerup was getting at stock settings, if you are significantly below this score in cinebench R20 (>10%) something is wrong or your cooling is inadequate

>>106457047
when will the cable meme end, mine doesn't even get lukewarm at the full 575 watts

Should I get a 32" 4k monitor if it's going to be only like a meter or less away from me?
I'm looking to upgrade to something from a 24" 1080p one.
I only play card games and browse/scroll manga all day.

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>>106457452
same from techspot
97% of techpowerup's score

>>106457461
Sure if its oled
theres also smaller 28" 4k ips panels out there

>>106457268
just drive to microcenter bro
it's that simple bro

>>106457454
His 5090 cant even pull 600w.

Where is Barlett Lake
I was promised a 12P core only CPU

>>106457487
Any reason not to get an IPS at that size?
I don't wanna go oled because I'm afraid of burn in.
I don't wanna hide taskbar and stuff like that to spare it.

>>106457519
if I overclocked it, maybe, but why would I do that when it doesn't give me any performance, even pulling 100W less gives the exact same performance at significantly reduced temperatures

>>106457452
do you think my thermal paste is used up lol

>>106457531
no because your temps look fine from the screenshots you posted
80-90 C is normal on the 5800X, you can't keep that thing cool no matter what you do

>>106457507
ye bet, ill hop into my car tomorrow and drive to nearest microcenter from Norway:)

>>106457524
ips has poor contrast?

Oled is generally preferable even with burn in because the image quality is much better. Check out the new tandem oled monitors, theres couple 1440p ones

>>106457555
You need a boat dumb ass.

>>106457565
He can just drive through the frozen arctic circle and into Canada

>>106457577
I thought there was an impenetrable ice wall or something there.

why does running DXVK on Windows generally give you a boost in performance over native DirectX? Normally it shouldnt but some games see massive boost like GTA 4 and Assassins Creed Origins.

>>106457662
Dx11 is very single threaded. DXVK is very multi threaded.

>>106456570
Why do people get so defensive when you calmly state the fact that everything other than VA panels are a meme?
I watch a lot of black people on tv, contrast ratio is important
>oled
Cuckold, imagine buying a tv with an expiration date.

>>106457673
Makes sense. But I noticed less gpu usage in general when running that Epic UE4 Infilrator demo in DXVK instead of DX11.

>>106457702
>UE5 demo - static desert or city with scripted wheels shooting and fps drops on high-end systems with graphics lower than gtaV mods.
>UE4 demo - secret laboratory under future city with holo, fights, awesome explosives, huge transforming drone
God what happened

>>106457718
Im just guessing but the UE4 demo was probably 1080p 60fps while UE5 demo was AI upscaled 4k with framegenned 120fps

>>106457756
this was 12 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO2rM-l-vdQ
Radeon HD 7000 / Geforce 700 were launching

>>106457541
alright thanks for the help so far. gonna head to bed now and continue testing tomorrow

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>>106457762
Is that supposed to disprove what I said?
I still think Nvidia et al sacrificed physics and detail in exchange for fake frames and fake pixels
inb4 someone says
>hur dur whats a fake pixel, looks real to me
pic related

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>>106457794
everything looks worse on better hardware today
everything looks better on worse hardware back then

>>106457812
I think I agree with the spirit of your statement, but it was poorly phrased. Half Life 2 looks better on my 2560x1440p 180Hz monitor in 2025 than it did on my 1280x124 60Hz monitor in 2004

My shitbox's onboard ethernet randomly decides to disappear after a reboot like if it was disabled in BIOS (it is not).
This is a cheapo ASRock A520M-HDV with a shitty Realtek chip, not complaining since I plugged in an Intel NIC and problem solved, just wondering if other anons had similar issues in the past

>>106457930
yes, turning the power supply completely off and discharging its capacitors fixed it

>>106457960
Interesting, never happened to me before and I've used really shitty onboard ethernets

>9060xt 8gb vs 16gb variant
>$90 difference
someone redpill me on why the vram/memory bus seems to be a significantly expensive part of a video card

>>106457967
the problem was the shitty wiring in my apartment, not the ethernet controller per se. i dont have grounded outlets except one in the kitchen

>>106457976
Do you honest to god genuinely believe anyone here could actually answer your question without memes?

>>106458128
well i'm sure some smart hardware guy lurks here

>>106457976
top kekeros, it's supposed to be one of the parts directly involved in its computation power, just like ram does ram things, cpus do cpus things, they have "units of power" or processing capacity, and in GPUs, the VRAM happens to be the unit

>>106457930
i've heard people had issues like that with the I225-V/I226-V
personally i've never had any issues with either the RTL8125 or I226-V but it's not uncommon that consumer NICs are just really bad

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anybody used the KTC H27T22C-3 before ??
meme monitor ? price seems too good to be true ?
tek sydnicate trust worthy or shill ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhK3hEDrT5M

>>106458240
it's an ips my guy
they're all the same shit. get whatever's cheapest and move on

>>106458240
>Virtually no motion blur
unless that's a CRT he's talking absolute horse shit

>>106457976
Are you under the impression that those cards are using the same RAM you stick into your board?

https://youtu.be/B2482h_TNwg?si=pwVkLgY7LsrapPbi

This is fucking ridiculous. EUV lithography must be some shit we reverse engineered from aliens.

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>>106456570
Welp, my AMD CPU of 3 years just died after a power surge. Started out as white VGA light of death on mobo, but CPU fans and GPU fans were running. First, I suspected the battery, swapped it out and shorted the switch, didn't work. The perhaps a corrupted BIOS. Rolled back and went forward, neither worked. So then perhaps a dead GPU. Swapped out my trusty 3090 for a 3060 ti known working, crossing my fingers that I didn't just lose a $1k component due to electricity, didn't work. Then I try out a single RAM stick and swap out the RAM as well, didn't work. Then perhaps it's a dead PSU. Swapped out PSU with one known working, didn't work. Perhaps it's the drives or the connection to a faulty fan, I unplug it all and repeat troubleshooting steps. Then I begin to suspect the motherboard. I buy a new one, it arrives, and I build it. Same symptoms (but this mobo has no diagnostics so I have no idea what it is). Then by chance I see someone mention that CPU is responsible for ensuring communication with PCIe. And it clicks. That's why I see a VGA light. I spent the last three days running all these diagnostics to get to the cause. The absolute worse case scenario has happened (which nobody accurately predicts with my symptoms because it's so rare). Luckily I had a 2nd build to test my 3090 and its PSU so I know they are working fine. I'm keeping the new mobo anyways, because I'm sure a bad mobo caused it anyways.

>>106458514
did you connect your shit directly to the wall or to a power strip with surge protection?

>>106458482
>r/pcmasterrace

>>106458514
>>106458543
UPS is best. It protects and cleans up the input voltage.

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This is such an expensive hobby. I wish I wasn't a poorfag so I could indulge in it; as it is, I can only afford to build computers I actually intend to use, which naturally I don't need to do that often.

>>106458543
It's connected to an old generic power strip that looks like this:
https://www.grainger.com/product/52NY55?gucid=N:N:PS:Paid:GGL:CSM-2295:6VHHZD:20500801:APZ_1

It does have an LED at the top that says "surge". But desu I didn't even know what surges were until my PC died following an outage that last about a sec. That's not a fancy protector or anything, but I do have a 1000w 80 plus gold msi power supply. And even the mobo was supposed to have its own protection. The PC was probably on idle. I just got really unlucky.

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>>106458578
Simply hustle until you're not poor anymore

>>106456874
LG C4, like all oleds I know, flicker at low rgb values in the refresh rate interval. So LG C4 flickers at 144 Hz if you display rgb 31 or something along those lines. Reviewers overlook this because they are fucking retarded

>>106456570
maybe this is the right place to ask, maybe it isn't, but 4chan helped me the last time so might as well ask:
I installed windows 11 a week ago after a catastrophic death of my boot drive, I've been reinstalling everything and for now the system is not that bad
but my previous windows was pirated thanks to you guys, question is, can you still pirate windows 11 like you used to do with windows 10? you know that server call to a fake server that validated the key or whatever it did
help, please and thanks

>>106458969
>can you still pirate windows 11 like you used to do with windows 10? you know that server call to a fake server that validated the key or whatever it did
from the Microsoft Activation Script-
open powershell
type in: "irm https://get.activated.win | iex"

enjoy your fully activated windows:)

>>106458969
anon...
its right there in the first post...
>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt
in case you need more help

>>106458579
Seems like every protection layer failed. But swapping out the CPU was the last required troubleshooting step, I think you skipped over it because you didn't want it to be true that the CPU died. At least its an excuse to upgrade if you were still using AM4?

>>106459166
thanks a lot

>>106459196
I'm stupid, I should have read the whole thing, thanks a lot

>>106458578
1) work
2) save money
3) spend saved money
it is what it is

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>>106458578
bro you don't even know the start of pain

>>106458578
Being a normie is way more expensive

>>106457521
>12P
If intel thinks it's coming out in Q3 2025, it's really gonna be released in Q1 2026

my gaming/everything notebook died after 8 years of use, considering going for a cheap note+ budget gaming desktop combo now. Is this a reasonable build?
>Ryzen 5 7600 (I assume I can use the stock cooler)
>Asus Tuf Gaming B650M-E WIFI
>9060 XT 16GB
>MSI MAG A650BN, 650W, 80 Plus Bronze
>32gb ram ddr5 (no idea how to choose, can it be anything in the 6000~7000 range?)
>Montech X3 Mesh, 6 Fans (no idea what I'm doing here either)
>already have a 2tb samsung ssd
Also, planning to run initially with the 7600's iGPU until BF or a good deal on the 9060xt

>AyyMD FINISHED AND BANKRUPT POODNAPOOR still not in the steam survey

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>RTX 5070 has officially become the most popular Blackwell (50 series) GPU on Steam. It now sits in the Top 20 most used GPUs according to the survey.

RDNA 4 Radeon GPUs are still missing from this survey showing that AMD’s newest generation hasn’t yet gained measurable adoption among Steam users.

>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Ti and 5080 at 0.75%

>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 reaches 1.01%

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

>>106459356
Yeah. He is lucky enough that he will not waste money on a useless trash.

>>106459598
the 9060XT is a waste of money, save for a 5070 at least

I mean people in cities are miserable. All they have is consumerism. They are mindless drones.

2-3 months left until black friday

>>106459628
Nooo its because valve are on nvidia's payroll and actively not surveying systems with radieon installed

How long did it took for the RDNA 3 to appear on the steamcharts

>>106459674
How do you justify AMD having the worst financial quarter they ever have while Nvidia did the opposite then?

>>106459679
nvidia makes 10x the profit off a 5070 than amd does off a 9070xt

>>106458240
>ips
Think about it this way. Almost all ips screens have the same contrast 1000:1
Pretty much nothing else matters. They're all mostly the same. There are some with higher contrast but those are just too expensive. If you want something that looks good in motion while gaming get a IPS. If you want something that looks good overall but badly in motion then get a VA screen. Personally i like VA screens better since they most of them have 3000:1 contrast ratio.

>>106456570
I've just been gifted a RTX3080 from a friend, whoever, my CPU is still a i5 2500k. What is the best value upgrade CPU/mobo combo? Is it still a 7500F with a chink AM5 board?

>>106459697
What's your budget and country?

>>106459702
UK and a few hundred dollars. I don't mind splashing more cash if I'm getting significantly more performance. $200-$400 for a CPU/Mobo.

>>106459628
As we closely approach the alleged 50 Super with more VRAM, my guess is Radeon won't appear at all this gen (maybe down the line when prices drop further). AMD trick in its sleave is that 9070 has 16GB of VRAM and its a bit faster than 5070. But that its just not enough to overcome Nvidia ecosystem of ML goodies.

A potential 18GB 5070 at 549$ will absolutely kill anything AMD wise (I also don't think AMD will do refreshes).

>>106459697
>https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/xyK99C
Here you go
Its safer to stick to a name brand board for long term support and after sales support

>>106459687
Waow Nvidia is able to design chips that can be made for 9+ times less than the competition

>>106459727
well then they just have to release a factory overclocked 32gb 9070xt for $750 and everyone wins

>>106458943
What the heck is rgb31?

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Hello faggots I just built most of my PC again, except I didn't change the graphics or storage. Here's what I'm running

>CPU: Ryzen 7 9800x3d
>CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120Se RGB
>RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32gb DDR5 6000
>Mobo: Gigabyte B850M Gaming X
>Storage: Samsung 860 + 970 Evo
>PSU: Seasonic Focus 750W
>GPU: RTX 3060 Ti
>Case: Fractal Design Pop Mini Air

Now I want to find a better monitor and GPU. I currently run an Asus VG27AQ (great monitor) as my main, but I hear that the OLED panels are pretty good these days. Don't really see a point to 4k, but I know I'll want a better card to drive the monitor. I'm thinking of a 5070 Super when that releases, since that'll be reasonably priced compared to the absolute scams that are above it (as well as having a healthy 18gb of vram for the future). Is there anything else I should consider?

>>106459729
I'll mention that the 7600 with a stock cooler is only £153 for some additional savings. It's only a 65W part anyway. So that cooler should be fine.

>>106459695
*If you want something that looks good overall but infinitesimally little worse in motion

>>106459753
5070 18gb seems like too good of a deal if they price it at $499 such that it will become unavailable and price inflated for half a year after it launches

>>106459753
Get an Uuu Pee Ess and don't cry about lost components one day.

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>>106459761
>It's only a 65W part anyway. So that cooler should be fine.
Scratch that. Though for a little more the 7600X would be tempting.

>>106459767
1. It's likely to be $550 base like the original 5070
2. 18gb is good but it's not gonna have enough raster power to matter when 18gb of vram is necessary to max out new games
3. It's likely to go under the radar as everyone creams over the 24gb of the 5070Ti and 5080 Supers

>>106459803
>he fell for the cooler wattage rating meme
It is bad advice bro

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Why is Nvidia releasing Super refreshes of the 50xx series less than a year after they release? Isn't that usually a mid-gen refresh, so realistically this time next year?

>>106459803
Yeah they downgraded the wraith stealth a couple generations ago. The original had copper heat pipes while the current one is just a copper slug with aluminium fins

Someone said a while ago asus tuf gaming b850 may have bloatware in the bios, but I couldn't find anything about this issue online. Also couldn't find the debloating video for this mobo specifically.

>>106459838
Anytime amd puts out a half competitive product, Nvidia likes to have a comeback that utterly buries amd's effort. Them having a 90% market share is not a coincidence

>>106459847
Just bought an MSI B850 and there was a toggle on the front page of the bios to turn off the Windows popup to ask if they can install their software. Asus probably does the same.

is stock cooler for 5600 enough for warm country? (in summer i get up to 35-40c ambient, but i can just deactivate turboboost for a few days so not really an issue). Will OC later in its life to try and make it hold until AM6 but I will just buy the fan at that date.

>>106459838
I expect them to announce them at CES and the rumours about them releasing soon being wrong, probably starting with a 5080 super on january/february and the 5070 super being released last.

>>106459838
It's literally "whoops we 'forgot' the vram the first time around, tee hee sorry guys" and nothing else except a boost clock push and a fully unlocked die for the 5070 super (48 -> 50 SMs). Not like the other Supers where they changed the die structure more significantly.

>>106459878
depends on the load but you can undervolt the curve on the PBO to try to lower the temperatures, keep in mind that the cooling does not dissipate heat it just make sure your hotspot stays below temperature at the end of the day you are still getting whatever amount wattage your PC is consuming inside the case so having the right airflow or cooling on your case is just as important than your stock cooler

>>106459901
i believe my case airflow is okayish so i guess im fine with stock, ty

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>>106459636
don't talk to me or my fans ever again

>>106459953
super low temps, right? are you overclocking?

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>>106459963
Not much, main reason you go custom loop so things are quiet. More rads = less fans rpm, or with the MO-RA 600, you may not need them at all.

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>it's another episode of me not knowing if I should get an X3D or not

>>106459980
its a gaming cpu, do you play games?

>>106459980
do you play video games and have some money

Thoughts on the Samsung Odyssey G3 S24DG300?

>>106459980
X3D sounds funny and looks funny so probably not
An intel CPU will be better

>>106459994
sometimes I guess?
>>106459995
sadly yes.
>>106460017
I see.

>>106459980
If you play video games more often than you encode and create archives you should get an X3D CPU.

>>106459598
>stock cooler
nah, thermalright peerless assassin 120 se v3 is less than 40 bucks, you can easily reuse that cooler on a stronger cpu years later (you would just replace the fans if needed). The stock cooler is serviceable but third party air coolers are cheap, reliable and durable so consider getting one
>ram
if you are gonna use ddr5 might as well get a kit that can be used later on. In this instance make sure it has 6000mhz and Cl 30, just make sure it has those numbers, research what that means on your own
>fans
for fans, like the op says, just make sure they are pwm fans (it stands for pulse width modulation), essentially it allows the motherboard to tell the fans how fast to spin depending on how hot the system is instead of setting fan speeds manually and without modulation. The arctic p12 pro fans recommended in the op are cheap and come in packs of 5 which is all you need when you dont use liquid/water coolers. the fans go 3 in the front as intake (fans pull air from outside into the case), one on top left and one in the rear both of those as exhaust (fans pull air from inside the case to the outside)
>psu
if you go with the Radeon then yeah 650w but honestly 750w and up are much better quality and more abundant. Cross reference with the tierlist and reviews in the op to get a good psu that won't explode
>samsung ssd
im assuming its a sata ssd instead of an nvme ssd, at least consider getting an nvme gen4 as your boot drive, 256gb-500gb would be more than enough if its for just that but even 1tb wouldn't be too expensive

>>106459653
when do those sales generally start? I know its november but I dont know which days

>>106460043
I'd really like to try one first. My current setup performs very well for me, I just see that sometimes my GPU is not fully utilized. I'm pretty sure that these powerful CPUs can push it to max, and also gives me better 1% lows, just not sure if they worth the almost double(!) premium. Not to mention that I sometimes edit huge RAW files in lightroom, I think I might get an 8-core to speed that up too. 7800X3D looks ok, despite the price, 9800X3D is way too price right now.

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I'm going to be grabbing a 5070Ti because my 2070 super is starting to feel a bit weak. Any recommended or avoidable manufacturers? My current one was MSI and turned out decent so I was considering grabbing this one.

>>106460166
Get a gaming x trio or tuf
5070ti uses a lot of power and the base shadow/ventus cards have bad coolers

>>106460084
somewhere around 20-30th. I think last time it started somewhere on the 26th. Im not sure. Recently companies have started doing "black month" to get ahead with the sales. But even then i still saw the best deals on those last days from 26th to 30th.

>>106460196
> or tuf
Never get tuf, they have shit components.

I never had problems with TUF and I'm not even a shill.

>>106460210
Tuf motherboards are bad but tuf GPUs are (still) good

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>>106460196
Thanks, any significant differences between them? Trio is about 930 and TUF is 1040 or so, so I'm leaning towards the Trio.

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>>106460293
Yikes those prices are pretty high, I'd thought the gaming trio would be within ~$100 of the base models.
Those two models are about the same so get the msi trio

>>106456570
im poor so i bought smr.

smr stands for suck me romeo. because you can't afford clit monster rosa. at least i'm prettt sure.

>>106460420
different anon here, should I buy the msi trio now or wait for black friday? (its at 1000 usd including taxes and shipping to my country)
the Amazon store for msi says they only have 3 in stock and with my luck that shit will probably not restock until next year. no other store here has them currently
am i being schizo paranoid?

>>106460499
bf will suck

>>106460499
forgot to mention, other 70ti cards are even more expensive for some reason, the msi is like 100-200 bucks cheaper than every other 70ti

>>106460499
gpu deals are rare on BF. especially for already good value models like the 5070ti and 9070xt
also with the impending super refresh coming, i'd expect to see a drought of good models like the trio for a couple months until the supers are supplied to the market in high volume towards the end of the year or january next year (before another drought caused by lunar new year happens again)

>>106460504
will it really? how has it been past years? this is my first time ever buying pc components so I dont remember if those things were ever on sale to begin with

>>106460519
>>106460521
fuck my nigger life, ill buy it tomorrow then, the stock was at 10 last week and now its at 3

>>106459749
assuming 8bit color depth, white is red 256 blue 256 green 256 and black is red 0 blue 0 green 0. With rgb 31 I simply mean red 31 + blue 31 + green 31 which is some dark grey tone or something. Im talking about the color displayed by an individual pixel

>>106460521
The last few BFs have only been good for ssd and monitor deals, as well as unpopular cpu and gpu models (i.e. not the 5070ti)

>>106460420
https://www.newegg.com/msi-rtx-5070-ti-16g-mlg-edition-oc-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-16gb-graphics-card-triple-fans/p/N82E16814137990
is the msi mlg just a reskined gaming trio? im not much of a weeb, but even with shipping and taxes its 100usd cheaper than a normal gaming trio in Amazon
cant find any confirmation on whether or not its just a reskin, specs look similar but I dont want to get memed

Where can I get legit PTM7950? I'm not giving Linus money and I'm sure the stuff I've gotten from AliExpress isn't legit so what to do?

>>106460690
yeah, seems like it

yeah we need more anime girl video cards

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Completed it on Intel Arc.
Game dont have Xess only bad FXAA or FSR 3.
Sorry but no.
Also baked lighting - nvidia fears this.

>>106459847
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jbuo6B-SaE here, I think it's this video

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>>106459921
What's your motherboard temps looking like?

why is mini-led so much less accessible in the UK than OLED? I don't want to get burn in because I left my monitor on for a week

>>106460781
Are you living in a freezer?

>>106460789
I think there are way more OLED monitors than miniLED ones and most of them are from Chinese brands that may not be not available everywhere.

>>106460802
KTC don't carry a single mini-led monitor here and INNOCN refuse to ship into europe. Coolermaster have the GP27U but it's plagued with issues and I'm not spending £1000 on a mini-led when I can buy top-tier OLED for that.

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>>106460781
right now 40 with 30 ambient (my 2600 is at 60, but i havent cleaned the pc in a while)

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I wrote to the store I got my PC from about the "hot" SSD, and the guy over the phone told me my temps are completely normal as long as Samsung Magician isn't warning me about it. He ensured me the warranty will hold and in the unfortunate circumstance something happens to my PC I can send it back for repair or replacement.
I think that's my cue to stop worrying and just use my PC as-is, despite my 990 Evo Plus seemingly running very hot.

>>106460857
do you have a heatsink on it?

>>106460857
what was the point of posting this without a temperature

>>106460798
Lan cool 2 mesh performance it's currently winter in Australia right now

>>106460857
you're right to be worried, i've had a gen4 ssd fail from heat before due to an improperly mounted motherboard heatsink
it shouldnt be running over 70-75C under load

>>106460849
Not bad bro im changing cases soon so im interested to see if system temps will change much

>>106460896
>>106460911
55C/75C idle
80C/115C peak during max load
There is no heatsink applied. Samsung Magician reports the lower of the two temperatures ONLY, and indicates everything is fine. During normal use it displays between 55 and 65 on Magician, and the second sensor is only visible on HWMonitor.
Guy on the phone told me the other sensor most likely is some hot spot or other chip and if neither Samsung nor Crystal Disk Info reports it, then it's not a problem.

>>106460930
>115C
mama mia

>>106460930
>There is no heatsink applied
There's your problem. The guy who built it is a negligent retard

9060s suddenly became 20Euros more expensive, all cards.

Something happened? Makes them less attractive now compared with 5060Tis.

>>106460938
That was only during a synthetic benchmark, I've never seen it come anywhere close during my usecases.

>>106460930
get a heatsink

>>106460989
Alright, I'll do that once the 14 day return period is over and I can safely peel off the tamper stickers. According to the guy on the phone, at least. Over email I was told I'm not allowed to open the PC, but this guy (ex-PC technician, now customer service, apparently) sounded way more knowledgeable than the random customer service woman I was previously talking to, so I assume my warranty won't be void if I add a heatsink...

>>106461016
>safely peel off the tamper stickers
what?

>>106461030
Stickers that ensure I haven't fucked around with the PC internals during the 14 day return period?

>>106461051
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT. call them back and ask if you can add a heatsink (non destructive process) to the SSD to prolong it's lifespan. They should have zero issue you doing that and DESU you should question why they didn't add one to a gen 4 drive as they are known to run hot

>>106461082
Yes, I can add a heatsink, and anything else, after the 14 day return period. It's the consumer friendly policy of allowing us to return any product for any reason (even no reason) within 2 weeks of purchase.

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>>106456570
hello anons, what is the cheapest possible GPU you'd recommend that can run RDR2 @ 4k ultra 60 FPS? thank you :D

>>106461156
5070 ti would be the lowest end gpu one might buy for 4k

>>106461103
They already tried to gaslight you into thinking the overheating ssd is fine when its not. You might want to consider returning it and just building your own

>>106461156
with upscaler at performance setting, 5060/9060 tier cards should be enough

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>>106461223
What about no upscaling, but including buying things second hand?
>>106461168
>5070 ti would be the lowest end gpu one might buy for 4k
Not looking to run anything else at 4k desu, just RDR2 with no RT (p sure RDR2 doesn't even have RT)

>>106460420
They're still a tad pricey in Europe, the cheapest base model is 840€ for ZOTAC, then MSI Shadow at 890€, Trio at 930€ and TUF at 1040€ roughly.
Maybe I can still wait it out a little bit, I just checked and 9070XTs are at 650€ which is a very meaningful difference, they were around 800€ last time I checked.