I would like to thank all the developers for giving me stable and secure Internet routing. I consistently get A+ scores for buffer bloat. My speed is 500 down and 30 up.
OpenWRT is technology done right.
>>106464076>17ms
>>106464076openwrt is one of those rare things that actually makes you feel rewarded for not being tech illiterate
>>106464076what hardware are you using?
>>106464430OpenWRT One
>>106464300OpenWRT wont make your ping lower, but i can lower your bufferbloat.
>>106464300I'm lucky that it's that low considering that I'm using a puma 7 chipset modem
>>106464515>puma 7 chipsetmy condolences
>>106464532I'm glad I'm not a gaymer
>>106464394Being able to do something yourself is soooooooo much more rewarding
>>106464638I only have so many fucks to give, at a certain point I just don't care enough to build my own router operating system from scratch to install it on hardware I designed myself. At a certain point you just gotta use someone else's work.
>>106464774Eh it wouldn't really be that much extra work since openwrt is just a linux distro set up out of the box to do router stuff, you could very easily just use a general use distro for it like debian and set it up with all the capabilities openwrt has, it'd just be kind of a waste of time outside of learning reasons
>>106464856>not building your distro from scratchshiggy diggy
>>106464897> Diggy Shiggy
>>106464076>>106464478How do you guys test for bufferbloat?And shouldn't QoS take care of that anyway?
>>106464774Calm down brother, I think he means using OpenWRT is more satisfying that buying an off the shelf router.OpenWRT itself is not that hard to install/use.You don't need to build the hardware yourself.
>>106465068Use SQM and test herehttps://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat
>>106465091>>106465068This test is more in-depth than the waveform test, but they only have 4 servers for the entire world, so don't expect super low latency unless you live near one of the 4 servers. https://bufferbloat.libreqos.com/
>>106465089Yes, that's what I meant to say
I bought this to install vanilla OpenWRT on it.Anything I should know before I do it?
>>106465091Not horrible, but not ideal either. Time to figure out how to improve this shit on an EdgeRouter Lite.
>>106465068The traditional method of QoS based on priority is a lot less reliable in practice, better than nothing but solutions like openwrt's SQM are much better, they do require a lot more compute power on the router though, but an n95 or n100 chink mini pc can handle more than 1gbps sqm without issue, that'd be the way to go imo or some used sff pc, using some cheapo off the shelf router as an access point for it if you need wifi
>>106465091>>106465115testing from US on GFiber 8gig seems standard even with the 2nd one going to a French serverguess my hardware is fine
>>106465136For ubiquiti stuff it's called "smart queue"you just enter your ISP's speed and it tries to keep your latency as low as it can while hitting those speeds (or close to them).Though for ubiquiti shit enabling smart queues disables hardware acceleration, but it shouldn't really be a big deal since you have less than 100mbps speeds anyway.To enable smart queues just go the internet settings, select the wan interface to open up the settings for that specific interface and then manually check the smart queues box
>>106465136I just used what's currently provided to me by my ISP.
>>106465211>>106465136Oh and if you haven't bothered, the edgerouter lite got a firmware update for the first time in 2 years back in july, and it's the first non-hotfix update in 5 years. The update brings a new web interface more in line with their other (newer) products.
I guess I'm okay
>>106465211>>106465327Thank you. I remember reading before about the QoS features disabling hardware accel and decided to leave it be. But fuck it I might as well try it and see what happens, nothing ventured nothing gained and all that.
>>106465349With your low speeds it likely wont be a problem, QoS would likely start to hurt you if you had like 300-500mbps though. Their newer hardware can do closer to 1gbps with QoS, but even that's hard to do on the CPU alone.
>>106465349Fair warning, sometimes it seems to fuck your shit up and kills your internet speeds and/or fucks the latency completely. If you reset the device after and apply it again it might work like it should when/if that happens. Was annoying as shit to troubleshoot for my friends router but once it worked it worked.
Works for me
>>106465431Excellent, but is this thanks to openWrt?
>>106465662No, that's just a ubiquiti router.I would need an x86 router to properly do QoS on a 2gig connection.
Love openwrt and still use it on my wifi router. Such a great piece of software also easy to setup network adblocking and other cool stuff.I moved to Opnsense though which is more complex but great if you go full custom hardware (odroid h4)
>>106466839If I require a more complicated setup I definitely will check out OPNsense
>>106464076>OpenWRTWhat is this and what is the use case? I've been running this same Huawei modem for almost 15 years now using pic related as my software to interface with it. I get around 50 Mbps on a good day, more on uploads. Routers just make it slower.
>>106466839opnsense has an inferior sqm implementation and can only run bsd programs, openwrt with using the shell allows for far more possibilities
>>106465362imo it's retarded to try to achieve sqm with these off the shelf routers, some chink celeron mini-pc running openwrt or opnsense would give enough performance for it for far cheaper than these overpriced routers could, just connect the old router to it as an AP
>>106467044The edgerouter he has should have no problem doing SQM at the speeds he has.x86 routers have their place, but there is nothing wrong with the edgerouter for his particular use case.
>>106466984>What is this and what is the use case?A firmware you can install on many routers to make them free (as in freedom) and unlock a ton of features.It is also much more secure than your stock firmware as it is not abandonware like many consumer routers.>I've been running this same Huawei modemSorry to say this but everything has been sent to the CCP already.For instance, since 2011 all Vodafone equipment was made by Huawei.In 2019 a backdoor was discovered on their consumer routers and modems.Huawei claimed to have it removed but further testing by Vodafone found it was still running.https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-30/vodafone-found-hidden-backdoors-in-huawei-equipment
>>106464076isp-provided router/switch/ap combo is fine
>>106467044>OpenWRT One>Off the shelf Go be a tech Luddite somewhere else kid
>>106467316Fiber?
>>106467360yeah, 8/1Gbps for 23.99€, no cap.it's a Sagemcom F@st5688b V2 (bouygues bbox v6) based on a Broadcom BCM68580.real downside is the rj45 10GBASE-T instead of sfp+ cage.
>>106467430Sadly I don't get options like that in Canindia
>>106467444yeah, frankistan is a shithole on the verge of total collapse but internet is very fast and cheap atleast... (holy copium)
>>106467430>real downside is the rj45 10GBASE-T instead of sfp+ cage.vast majority of consumers are going to want RJ45 natively.
>>106467479the leader on the 8/8Gbps market in France, free, is using a sfp+ cage on their home-made router, I wish the other 3 big ISP would do the same so adoption of the technology would grow
>>106464076i don't want to fuck with the little wifi eero box everyone uses with this can i just buy a fiber cable splitter and then connect a separate wifi box
>>106467502Doubtful, 10GBASE-T is only going to be more popular in the consumer space as the new realtek chips hit the market with their 1.65-1.95W per port 10GbE PHYs.SFP+ (in the consumer space) has always been a holdover until 10GbE got cheaper/more power efficient.The backwards compatibility 10GBASE-T offers is simply too good for most consumers to pass up.
>>106464444is it strong enough?
openwrt + nanopir6c mogs just about everything for 120 benjaminstruly a golden age for networking
>>106465158I got this router >>106465121I've heard it has a pretty beefy CPU. It's an MT7986 Quad-core, @2.0GHzDid I do too bad?
>>106467608It's not going to do multi-gigabit QoS, but it should be fine in general.
>>106465068QoS only takes care of BBC
>>106467537For my use case it is, what do you mean exactly?
>>106467560What does it do that some $40 ewaste i5 7500t doesn't do way better
>>106467713Smaller form factor, less power consumption?
>>106467560There's no way this has a good enough cpu
>>106467774Why not?It's quad core A76 @ 2.4Ghz + a quad core A55 @ 1.8Ghz
>>106464478How could you lower my bufferbloat?
>>106468108I said it CAN lower your bufferbloat, not it WILL lower your bufferbloat.If you already have no bufferbloat it obviously isn't going to improve over that.
>>106468128No, you said I That's what you posted
>>106468137>YOU FORGOT A LETTER wow you figured it out
>>106468160It's not my fault you're a retard Learn to spell and stop blaming everyone else for your failures
>>106468203do you think typing "i" instead of "it" is because I can't spell?Jesus I knew this board had autistic retards, but you take the cake my guy.
>>106467713>>106467774it even has a GPU
>>106468229Learn to spell and stop blaming everyone else for your failures
>>106468229You're admitting that you are too stupid to use spell check? LMFAO
>>106468273>>106468286I'm not a phone posting faggot, nor do I particularly give a shit about minor mistakes on an anime basket-weaving forum
>>106468300You supposedly don't care but you keep posting and you keep doubling down on your retardation while everyone laughs at you That's pretty fucking sad dudeLMFAO, you suck
>>106468229So you can't lower my bufferfloat in fact? Too bad.
>>106468338It's my thread loserI'm OPLurk more newfag
>>106464076>stable and secure Internet routingPicrel is my speeds. My """router""" is a Fortinet Fortigate 60f
Is someone able to spoon feed me how to tell if a router has DFS easily?It's a pain having to go into every single spec sheet.
More like openHRT lmao!
>>106468403I would assume most higher end routers these days have it.Realistically though, do you even know if you can utilize DFS channels in your area?
>>106464076OpenWRT added both length and girth.
>>106468403My OpenWRT one supposedly has it but I think it only works for certain countries
>>106468442
>>106467560The bpi-r4 is the better deal for that price if your just after a wired router. The nanopi doesnt have offload or sfp+.
>>106468474Yes, DFS is regulated because it uses doppler radar frequencies.It also wont work if it detects a doppler radar operating nearby. It'll switch to another DFS channel if available, or switch to a non-DFS channel and there is nothing you can do about it.
>>106464300to be fair, 1-2ms just means your ISP is hosting the test server, or is colocated next door.
>>106464076>My speed is 500 down and 30 uphow is this still legal, that ack filtering in cake must do wonders for you
>>106465068>How do you guys test for bufferbloat?speedtest, fast.com, waveform, cloudflare speedtest, they work well enough, you want your loaded latencies to be equal or close to unloaded you can use flent and a netperf server for in depth testing
>>106465121a bit late but there is a thread on the openwrt forums discussing custom builds for the flint 2 you can look into https://forum.openwrt.org/t/mt6000-custom-build-with-luci-and-some-optimization-kernel-6-12-x/185241/1its relatively active if you want to experimentthere is also the main device page https://openwrt.org/toh/gl.inet/gl-mt6000
>>106464629>>106464532I had a modem with a Intelaviv puma chipset and i would be dropped from work calls all the time. It was only until I switched to one with Broadcom that I had no problems.
>>106468943
openwrt is so ridiculously stable, it runs forever without any problemcurrently have an uptime of 180 days, and it only went down for an update those crappy isp routers had problems every other day
>>106467615>multi-gigabitI have no equipment for that, nor do I have the need, so I think I'm good for the next 10 years.
>>106470902>those crappy isp routers had problems every other dayI wish I could get rid of mine.I was happier when ISPs did not provide any routers and gave us only the modem.
>>106469931>>106465115>>106465091>>106469941Thanks bros.
I got an ER605 paired with a TÇSG108E running failover. 800 + 400. I have 2 servers + 2 desktops and a wifi router connected to it and it works great.I love Openwrt
>>106465091It seems I will never be a gamer...
>>106469913I use fq_codel, it's less taxing on the CPU
>>106471456With SQM?
>>106471505I highly doubt he's using SQM if he's seeing +84ms on loaded download latency.
>>106471278if youre in the eu its a legal right to have your own router
>>106471788No
>>106469941Do you use one of these custom builds? If yes, which one?My Flint 2 is on its way to my home
>>106471950Yes
>>106464478Memphis anon?
>>106472402No, Germantown is in Maryland if he's connecting to ashburn and Philly.
>>106471896Really? Until just a few months ago an isp in spain only allowed that for up to 1gbps plan, not their 10gbps plans. I assume there are probably loopholes or something
>>106471896>>106472693Of course we can have our own routers. You can have as many routers as you have.What I mean is I wish I could GET RID of the ISP's router.
>>106472828as you want*
>>106472828Well did you try to see if there's a bridge mode? Or depending on how common that router is with your isp there are often documented ways to steal the keys to use your own router even if they won't give em to you, I'd do some searching if I was you because there are usually easy ways to steal the keys from the isp's router
>>106472693>>106472828apparently only holland has implemented it so far
>>106474032Bastards
>>106465136>>106465276how are your speeds so much worse, but grades so much better?
Pedos like you should be in prison
>>106474300Because it's a latency test, not a speedtest
>>106474300It's a test of latency when the bandwidth is being saturated
>>106474300retard alert
Is getting a dedicated router worth it? My ISP gave my pic related (arris tg2482a) . This is my latency >>106471456
>>106475676Make sure your ISP even lets you use your own equipment first.Generally though with DOCSIS I recommend a standalone modem, and then use whatever router you want that supports the features you want and the speeds you pay for.
>>106474300
>>106472906>Well did you try to see if there's a bridge mode?There is. That's why I can use my own router and directly access the public IP.But I cannot remove their router from the chain.
>>106475721He can always use his own router. But the ISP's router might not have a bridge mode. Which should be illegal, IMO.
Would not expect a good result from my shitty ISP. No openWRT. There is no fiber in my street yet.
>>106477223In Canada our streets have a lot of "fiber" put there by Indian immigrants if you get what I'm saying
>>106477223Bufferbloat is generally more a display of hardware quality and proper network configuration/peering on your ISP and datacenters in your region.It can also be an indicator of a good/shit router.
>>106477223middle boxes to address bufferbloat from the likes of libreqos are becoming popular, they pretty much eliminate customer service tickets for "slow" internet
>>1064689431-2 ms would put the server in like two or three cities over.
>>106476811You sure there's not an exploit to steal the keys from the isp's router? All the isp routers I have had were easy to steal them from by searching online for a guide by some bored nerd that already found a way
>Not Mikrotik
just my router (MERCUSYS 2.5Gigabit MR27BE Dual-Band WiFi 7)and my 10 bucks a month romanian ISPno openwrt
>>106480153Not really, purely on speed of light distance maybe, but you're ignoring latency on the routing equipment being used.Connecting to a data center 20 miles away is 3-5ms for me because I'm jumping through multiple ISP routers before hitting the backbone connecting to the data centers.Each hop is going to add SOME latency not just because of the distance, but because of the equipment your packets need to go through.A 1-2ms ping almost universally means you're still on your ISPs internal network.
>>106480153I get 0.3-0.8ms just from going from my router to the ISP router for my neighborhood, it's 1 more hop to the local CO and I'm already at 1.2-1.5ms and my packet is only down the street half a mile. Another hop to an ISP router, and then a final hop to my ISPs core backbone and I'm at 2-3ms and it's less than 20km away, even if I'm connecting to a server that is located just 2-3 blocks away from my ISP that's still going to be 3-5ms of latency for me.Maybe an active fiber network where your house is directly connecting to your ISPs datacenter bypassing any local neighborhood level routers you could see 1-2ms inside the ISP datacenter, and assuming fast.com hosts a CDN in that same datacenter then sure, youll see 1-2ms in testing, but it's because your ISP is colocated in the same building (or right next door) and you're not touching the wider internet.
I have a 10gbps connection but it uses xpass here in japan which I'm not familiar with I have an Archer BE805 v1.0Is it possible to use openwrt?
>>106481631If you can read technical Japanese there were some NTT users that were working on getting MAP-E and other Japanese specific fiber standards implemented on OpenWRT, but I personally have no idea how far along they are with the effort since I can't read moonrunes.
>>106464532>Pedophile avatarMy condolences
>>106482339>he thinks a reaction image is an "avatar"kill you're self
WelpRedmi AX6 Running OpenwrtI thought when I bought it that it would really well since its a Qualcomm chipset but I don't think too many people own it since its a Chinese market only product Also missing support for some Qualcomm acceleration functions At least it was dirt cheap
>>106482454lmao that latency is wild.
>>106482454Holy shit, where do you live? Not even my third world shithole is that bad
>>106464076Question, what happens if you have a isp mo-router? You cannot just remove it as what is going to tell to the isp you are a paying customer?
>>106482534My ISP has modem/routers, but they allow you to use your own modem too and then you can use whatever router you want, including openWRT.
>>106482546> bridge modeHow does that then give better speeds?
>>106482585It isn't bridge mode?I physically removed my ISPs modem/router combo and replaced it with my own modem and my own router.
>>106475676unloaded latency of 46 ms is already pretty steep, i dont reach that ever even on wifiuse traceroute to find out where it goes wrong
>>106465091shitty test doesn't even fucking work
>>106482668>>106465091now it does
>>106482668happens to me occasionally, just restart the test.If it keeps doing it try another web browser.
>>106482588>replaced it with my own modem and my own router.Is that allowed or are you hacking?
>>106475676>>106482645this is in the part of the house with the worst reception, limited to 802.11ac
>>106482688it ended up working: >>106482686TP Link BE9300 for anyone who cares, QoS disabled
>>106482703It's fully allowed.Like I said, it depends on the ISP.I could even buy a rackmount modem from Ubiquiti if I wanted to.
>>106482703>Is that allowedholy corpocuck, why wouldn't you be allowed/able to?
>>106482748>>106482755I just wanted to know okay, I have never tried this before.
>>106482502>>106482515United Kingdom, LeedsCentral Leeds doesn't have BT VDSL2 76Mbps or Virgin Media, it only has ADSL 11MbpsThey assumed everyone would get fiber optics so didn't bother with VDSL2 because the cabinet is so huge and messy to upgradeMy building isn't upgraded still to FTTP so I use a Zyxel 5G antenna on O2 I bet its mostly this shitty router / the implementation of Openwrt on this particular routerThis is a test using my connection over USB C dock > USB 3 ethernet adaptor > shitty Tenda switch > TP Link homeplug > Netgear Switch > Zyxel 5GI am moving soon to a house that has 1/2.5GB FTTP / Docsis which will be a dreamI should really also just get rid of this router and use Mikrotik
>>1064828715G is the problem, any purely wireless connection is going to have terrible latency.Though your TP link homeplug probably doesn't help.
>>106482871>MikrodikStick with OpenWRT dude
>>106481709thank you anon yes i can read moonruines ill take a look
>>106482924other than RouterOS being proprietary can you give me a good reason why?
>>106483123Isn't that enough?open source router OS's are great.OpenSenseOpenWRTetcunless you NEED specific hardware that ONLY runs a proprietary OS why would you ever willingly put yourself into that hell?
>>106483123Yes
