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What's the best distro that's:
>stable
>usable
>has no shitty software/dependencies manager
>has no shitty DE

ZorinOS without KDE?

>inb4 w11
kys nigger
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>>106471057
Unironically Ubuntu but clean it up, remove snap, gnome etc. add a WM and you've got Arch without wasting a thousand hours on config.
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>>106471057
Yes, Zorin OS.
I even paid for the pro to show support.
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>>106471057
Kubuntu
Rocky Linux
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>>106471084
>KRASH DE
OP said stable and usable. Stop shilling this garbage.
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>>106471057
Devuan
default DE is xfce
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>>106471084
>Kubuntu
>KDE
ngmi
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>>106471093
>>106471106
beef
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>>106471102
Is XFCE better than Cinnamon?
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>>106471057
Windows 10/11 IoT LTSC
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>>106471057
another retarded time wasting distro thread.

DE has nothing to do with the distro. you can use any DE on any distro. you are fucking retarded and people like you are the reason this board is full of complete shit. learn to use a search engine you fucking child.
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>>106471120
I also asked for a distro with a usable and easy to use/understand software/dependencies manager un retarded saaar
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>>106471114
I use LXQt personally, but it's not the default DE, and I assumed you don't want to bother with non-default DE's
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>>106471149
>you don't want to bother with non-default DE's
right, i do not want more hidden folders in my home folder
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>>106471135
No dependencies manager saar
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>>106471111
Is it shredded or minced
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>>106471386
>'install' a sw
>sw needs a specific version of a library
>install that lib
>somehow other sw brakes
>remove old dependencies
>half of system ui breaks

a FEVER DREAM
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Raspberry pi os doing great on muh pi
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>>106471429
NEVER ASKED ABOUT YOUR RASHIT PIE
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>>106471420
you can use appimages and such for otherwise incompatible software
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>>106471539
Not all sw comes in AppImages anon. Also it' impossible to manage alle dependencies at once, it's not like windows
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>>106471554
Basically, a good distro needs a standardization of what to have (e.g Qt as the only gui framework and so on) and build specifically for that distro enviroments

>inb4 that's not what linux is meant for
Yeah
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>>106471057
It depends on which aspects you're willing to compromise. Honestly I'd go with a rolling release distro from the start, it's probably where you'll end up later anyway.

>has no shitty DE
You pick that during installation unless you opt for doing an offline install. Distros pack DEs differently and sometimes incomplete, e.g. EndeavourOS used to not include ffmpegthumbs for Plasma iirc so you'd end up missing thumbnails in the file manager.
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>>106471057
>ZoinksOS
zzzz
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>>106471070
>waste a thousand hours on config and you've got Arch without wasting a thousand hours on config.
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>>106471658
Dude, this nigger of OP is asking for a Windows experience in Linux, don't try hard on him
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>>106471712
I would say yes, but i hate win so much
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>>106471057
>>106471079
Buy an ad.
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>>106471420
Nix solves this
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>>106472015
How?
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>>106471708
Takes one hour max to do what I described
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>>106472138
Each version of a library is installed in a unique path, each program only linked to those unique paths that it uses.
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Gentoo is a stable bleeding-edge rolling distro.
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>install ubuntu/fedora/debian/whatever you consider stable
>install your favorite DE
how can this process be so hard?
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>>106471057
>What's the best distro
they all suck
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>>106471057
Aurora and Bazzite

>Zorin
This shit is still based on Ubuntu 22 LTS. Literally unusable for home use.
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>>106472407
>Aurora
>KDE
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>>106472143
Installing Arch in that config takes less than 1 hour.
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Fedora, faggot
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>>106472149
That's the windowest thing on linux they can ever made, wich is good for once, or maybe not?

>>106472850
go kys

>>106472852
I'm no obese jeet
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>>106471057
>stable
Debian stable.
>usable
Gentoo if you're not new, otherwise Ubuntu or Arch.
>has no shitty software/dependencies manager
Gentoo. Portage is amazing, packages tend to be very well-maintained.
>ZorinOS
Just use Ubuntu. If you are coming from Windows, which I realize now might be the case, you should probably use Linux Mint, which is also based on Ubuntu, and is very friendly towards Windows users.
>>inb4 w11
Ah, you are refusing the W11 upgrade. You using W10 right now?
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>>106473163
>You using W10 right now?
No, just Mint
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>>106472806
OP asked for no shitty DE. The only one that matches this description is KDE.
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>>106471057
None of the above. You get usable, or you get stable. There's an inverse relationship between the two. Either you get a stable distro with horribly outdated packages (that you bandaid over with janky shit like Flatpaks and Distrobox, which is my preferred approach nowadays), or you use some rolling release garbage that has a new bug every day, and occasionally you get raped by an update and don't have the luxury to hold out on doing a major upgrade (not for long, anyway) like you can on point-release distros.

Regarding DEs, the same is also true. They all suck in their own way and have unavoidable quirks. Either you use fancy new shit with a lot of features and a lot of bugs (KDE, Wayland, etc.), or you use "minimalist" shit built on old tech stacks that's lucky to get an update once every few years (XFCE, X, etc.)

Personally, I think something based on Ubuntu LTS (including Mint), with Flatpaks/Distrobox, is the way to go, since you get a very stable base with modern hardware support via the HWE packages. I like Kubuntu 24.04, personally. 5.27 was a really stable, polished release of KDE, and Plasma 6 still has a ton of shitty little issues (for me, anyway).
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>>106471057
Just install Linux from stretch and stop bitchin.
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>>106473338
>The only one that matches this description is *KRRRRASHES*
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It's Mint, it's been Mint for the past 10 years
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>>106473436
Are you on Debian 12 or another shitty LTS distro? KDE hasn't been unstable since 5.16.
Actually, scratch that. Since you're looking at ZorinOS (a distro stuck in early 2022) you probably are using outdated and broken packages.
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>>106471114
I like cinnamon because it's way lighter weight than GNOME or KDE, but it has a lot of the same fancy features that are easy to setup, and it's also customizable enough for my tastes. Xfce is great, it's lightweight and very flexible, but it's more minimal and requires more fiddling to get things like custom system sounds.
Just depends on whether you want a sane version of a "modern" desktop, or a more minimal, faster one.
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>>106473484
It's superseded by Aurora.
>best DE (KDE)
>wayland
>atomic, semi-immutable = never breaks when updating
>more recent packages = actually usable as a daily desktop system
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>>106473509
>gayland
>updoot faggotry
This is why it doesn't supersede mint
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>>106473520
Sure thing bud, I too enjoy my software being outdated and buggy shit.
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>>106472150
this
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>>106473533
Works on my machine, without irony.
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>>106473492
>KDE hasn't been unstable since 5.16
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>106473638
Please call all 5 million Steam Deck users and ask them what issues they're having.
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>>106473654
They can't play on windows
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>>106473666
Based trips
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>>106473666
>unable to use shitdows
>issue
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>>106473666
>lemme strawman
bodied.
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>>106473342
And why this inverse relationship doesn't exists in windows or macos? FOSS shit needs structure and method. Linux has a great skeleton, but the flash is made of pure scotch tape
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>>106473978
Think for a second

Also go back to windows retard
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CachyOS or Fedora
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Anyway, should I go for NixOS from Mint? I just don't want buggy shit betwenn apps and display server and update manager
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>>106474301
cachy is arch(based)
fedora is slow and gay
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>>106474313
>cachy is arch(based)
does cachy have these requirements?
>>106471057
>stable
>usable
>has no shitty software/dependencies manager
>has no shitty DE
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>>106473666
The beast as spoken
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>>106474303
BVMP
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>>106474743
Bump what?
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>>106474387
It's slightly more advanced that something like Fedora or Mint, but if you know how to troubleshoot then it's perfectly fine.
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>>106474939
>if you know how to troubleshoot then it's perfectly fine.
That can be said for every OS on earth



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