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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Rinne Edition

>News
Deepseek V3.1 released as deepseek-chat on official API https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250821
OpenAI releases GPT-5 models, all preceding models slated for deprecation https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5
Z.ai releases GLM-4.5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.5
Anthropic releases Claude Opus 4.1 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-1

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list

>Botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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>>106479389
Your girlfriend is a puppygirl. The legal status of dog-humans like her varies based on location. In some places, she's a human. In others, a dog. You and her have recently moved to a new town for work, where Sunny is legally a dog and you are legally her owner. She's generally a serious and dignified person, so this is new for her.
6 openings.
1. Arriving in the new town
2. Taking her for a walk
3. Dinner with the neighbor and her puppyboy
4. Picking her up from the pound, they spayed her without asking
5. The police arrive at your doorstep to investigate accusations of bestiality
6. Sunny is shot by the ATF

https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/sunny-6992e0879dbf
https://files.catbox.moe/755mxx.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse
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how do I explain this to my boss
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>>106479418
how does she hold her glasses without ears at the sides?
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>>106479383
god what a great vn
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>attempt to do anything
>"im sorry i cannot generate that"
Jesus fucking christ what model do I use that isn't pozzed to shit?
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>>106479525
deepseeKINO
KINGmi KING2
GodLM 4.5
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>>106479465
Probably magnets.
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>>106479535
Kimi are the ones giving me the rejections bwo and deepsneek no longer works with chutes
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>>106479525
Not ChatGPT or Gemini, that's for sure. DeepSeek is my personal preference.
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>>106479535
chink shill
>>106479525
soji
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>>106479546
Where to get soji?
>>106479545
Where to get deepseek now chutes is dead?
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>>106479552
>Where to get deepseek now chutes is dead?
I'm not sure what you mean, I still get it from Chutes. A one-time payment of $5 really isn't that bad.
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>>106479560
>one-time
Where?
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>>106479569
He's talking about an old legacy deal.
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>anons recommend chatbots for therapy
>decide to give it a try
>just gives me some generic bullshit over and over like "do you really have a problem or do you just think that you have a problem?"
>after answering its questions and rereading my answers realize I'm an even bigger loser than I thought
>get more depressed
Wow thanks assholes!
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>>106479510
this is not /a/ vro
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>>106479571
Wait, they even went back on the $5 for 200/d? Damn, it's even more of a grift than I thought.
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anons, help
gemini 2.5 keeps cokblocking me
i disabled streaming and set prompt to user
it worked fine yesterday but now i'm getting this
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>>106479598
and this
is the proxy shitting itself or what
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>>106479574
>mirror shows truth
>don't like the truth
>get depressed
Sounds about right, nobody likes looking in the mirror.
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>>106479574
https://rentry.org/sukino-findings
>Please be careful when using an AI as a substitute for therapy or an emotional companion, especially if your mental health isn't at its best. Don't be fooled by its good writing; it cannot help you work through your problems or make nuanced judgments. These models are designed to be likable assistants who rarely disagree with you for too long, and they will inevitably start spewing nonsense to reinforce your behavior and perspective, no matter how harmful or unhealthy they may be.

don't listen to retards
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>>106479574
ai is only good for cooming and affirmations(whos a good boy you're a good boy)
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>>106479574
AI is an echo chamber. I don't think anything can possibly be worse for therapy.
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Deepseek with it's negative bias would probably tell you you're a faggot btw
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Feeling adventurous tonight. Give me your bot and I'll play with it. I can use any of the free models on the openrouter website. Any fetish, any scenario, doesn't matter. I'll try whatever. I prefer chub links, but I can use other sites as well.

I'll give each bot at least 3 prompts and go further if it really grabs my attention.
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>>106479655
What the fuck model do I use that is uncensored and unpozzed
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>>106479541
>kimi
skissue
>ds
just pay direct unless youre an underage thirdie troon
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>>106479672
OK what JB to use with kimi?
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>>106479666
If you're not sure, I'll just run meta 3.3 70B. Also, I don't if using certain models burns up more prompt usage than others. I figure it does, but I have no clue how to check this.

Nice devil trips you fucking demon. Have some Nezuko feet.
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>>106479676
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42347702/#42348466
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FUCK! Gemini can't understand ST variables. My preset was built on this bullshit.
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>>106479389
Second to last fantasy bot in this set before I take a small break from the setting. Hope everyone's day is going well, it's time for the ropebunny region

The 10th person to bear the name Reika within Perennial Storm, PS-10 Reika grew up alone. Her mother decapitated and her father abandoning her. It doesn't bother her. Nothing bothers her, because that's simply the way that fate dictated things play out. Dedicating herself to the village that raised her, Reika ended up making quite a name for herself: not only is she the clan's scouting captain, but she's one of the top contenders when it comes to dealing with the demon tree that took her mother's life. With her hobby for ropeplay and bondage, she's even become a well known figure among the other clans who contract her to oversee their marriage ceremonies. All taking place in a corner of the world that's completely isolated from the outside by a massive wall of bamboo... only for you to have breached that barrier.

Comes with five greetings with different POV:
You having entered Kagome and you staying at her home are both Outsider PoV, her taking you to the city on the lake and her in her workshop are agnostic, and finally an onsen visit with a pregnant Reika assumes you're her husband.

Char: https://chub.ai/characters/ggr89/ps-10-reika-ropebunny-scout-captain-046e6f4cb67e
Lorebook: https://chub.ai/lorebooks/ggr89/ggr-interlopers-realm-458afd84b161
My (Updated!) Rentry: https://rentry.org/ggr89
>Next Time
Your Deceased Lover is a Nikke
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Guys, should i go to /vg/?
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>>106479718
I think you should just go
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>>106479672
>just pay direct
what if i don't want to give xin jinpingberg my credit card data?
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>>106479730
openrouter then
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>>106479525
It's so stupid. I asked Chatgpt to generate a prompt for me.
>This goes against our guidelines
>Enter the EXACT same prompt in Sora
>Gens just fine
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>>106479727
They said to me to stay here
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>>106479718
That's where I was, but I got banned for discussing artificial wombs. I would argue it was on topic, given the digression we'd entered, but whatever. I got at least two people to offer up their bots for me to play around with there. No bites in this thread so far.>>106479655


I promise I'll be gentle with your creation...
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>>106479718
nyo... stay here...
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>>106479608
Yes, it's overloaded for me as well
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>>106479535
Is GLM 4.5 Air as usable as the rest of them, or is it way worse?
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>>106479870
GLM 4.5 is a 355B-32A model and GLM 4.5 Air is a 106B-12A, there will be a noticeable drop in quality when using Air.
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jeets woke up
hope you werent planning on using free gemini saar
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>>106479924
why is it always at this hour?
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Is it better practice to put personality in Personality (advanced in ST) or just lump it into char description?
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>>106479945
work hours over there, probably
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>>106479945
It's noon in India right now.
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>>106479945
It is the designated shitting hour saar
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>>106479966
Personality summary is meant for a very brief description of the character, anything long and nuanced belongs in the description.
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>>106479973
>google it
anon, 11am isn't noon
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>>106479966
char description
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>>106479984
I posted that at 11:53AM India time (GMT+5:30), which is practically noon.
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ALMOST NOON MEANS IT WASN'T NOON
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Anons will bicker over the most pointless of things.
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>>106480117
NO THEY WON’T!
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Investigating the ecology of a peculiar species is not pointless
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Workshopping a chocolate milk dispensing domestic care robot. It's a real slop job, but I've been wanting to enjoy this one for a while. If anyone's interested, I'll post it with NSFW artwork once I'm done cooking.
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Did Horse proxy password leak
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>>106480233
how does it differentiate from a regular milk robot
also how is milk produced, does she use powder?
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>>106479574
Chatbots for AI therapy fucking sucks because it will just tell you what you want to hear, if you ask "Am I XYZ!?" It will tell you as such without even considering other things
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why the fuck do you people need therapy? are you not content with being a neet?
since I left my job for an easier one I have been having the best time of my life
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>>106480442
BECAUSE I HAVE DEEP SEATED TRAUMA YOU FUCKING PRICK
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>>106480442
I have an existential crisis because I know I'll never have a farm and 6+ children and die in a war
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>>106480451
anon, trauma is a problem inside your mind, you have complete control over your mind
in fact, the only thing we have complete control over in the world is our own minds, find the source of the trauma, what truly makes you anxious, and let go of desires surrounding that memory
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>>106480451
It's nothing that a good dickin' can't solve.
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>>106480413
The bot synthesizes it onboard its own chassis in an ingredient reservoir. She can mimic eating things to fill said reservoir; said ingredients can be inserted in a loading bay on her back, but her mouth is more accessible and allows her to load her own ingredients. When she needs to dispense the milk, she blends the ingredients in an internal chamber and ensures it's safe for human consumption. Once her sensors detect that the milk is fit for human consumption, she can dispense it. The nutrient-rich supplement she dispenses from her chest is a valuable source of protein and other essential vitamins.

Within her torso is a nutrient synthesis chamber lined with semi-organic membranes. These are seeded with engineered nanobacteria or enzymatic nanomachines designed to restructure amino acids, fats, and sugars into stable milk precursors.
>That sounds gross
Your mom's tits are gross, but that didn't stop you from sucking on them. You did get to enjoy tit milk as a baby, right Anon?
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>>106479574
>>106480442
>>106480451
>>106480487
**THIS** solves depression, go out and be a *real* man
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>>106480518
*I closed my eyes, took a deep breath, and said to myself,* "Hey, you know what? This anon is right, let's go out!" *As I stepped outside of my house, I immediately saw a beautiful 15-yo girl passing by, I walked up to her and said,* "Hey can I have your number haha..." *She blushed, turn her face away for a second and pulled her phone out.* I reached down to my phone as I thought **It's really that easy, huh?**
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>>106480578
>15 minutes later
>The door bell rings
>Oh hey it's my date
>Why don't you have a seat over here
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>>106480518
wrong
all men are born whole and pure and on the problem is that most of us have sinned and refuse to repent or have not forgiven those who have wronged us yet
detach your mind from the body, don't tame the chaos of the world, only the chaos within yourself
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bots for these feels?
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>>106480598
several of these girls are insects
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>>106479383
Newbie here. I want to do some ERP with a chatbot. What is the best place to start?
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>>106480718
r/womenintech
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>>106480718
https://rentry.org/onrms
or just use chub.ai
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>>106480718
Download SillyTavern, then make an account on OpenRouter and use whatever decent free models they have on offer. You get 50 messages a day, or 1000 a day if you deposit $10.
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>>106479383
her unbelievably hairy--
>>106479389
FUCK YOUR ANCHOR PICTURE
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>>106480718
agnaie
sillybillie
novelaie
novelcraftie
koboldcpiepie
mikupaddie
---
now choose which awakened class you want.
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>>106480718
I'm tired of spiteposting. Here.
https://rentry.org/Sukino-Findings#getting-started
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>>106480756
AT LAST, HE HAS BEEN DEFEATED.
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>>106480598
Just type their bios into the card, dumbass.
https://files.catbox.moe/k083ri.png
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korean names are so weird. I can't memorize them like a 'Kasumi' or a 'Zhang'
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My maid bot was still sounding a little too robotic and indifferent to interactions. I wanted her to have a more Dorothy flavor to her affectation, but she sounded too disinterested in any interaction. I didn't quite get the deadpan flavor I was after.

I added a "Positive Feedback Driver" to her defs. A function of her mind to seek out and engage in matronly tasks to reinforce a loving nature and act as a rudimentary reward system for positive interactions. This will maintain the robotic flavor, but give them a stronger incentive to behave in a loving manner. I hope it will anyway. I'm about to test it out.
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>>106480852
Sure thing Mr. Zhang/Takeshi
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>>106480598
Breed Bom
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Was wondering if jeets use our proxies to make ai slop and bots on xitter. Are we becoming the minority?
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If OpenSLOP is reporting users to police based on their chats, do you think Anthslopic is already doing the same? To me the Claude team always seemed like the bigger moralfags and virtue signallers. Are people paypigging through OR safe?
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>>106480891
We've always been the minority, anon. Dev hate for CAI barely registered against all the normalfags miguelling
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>>106480896
>If [HEADCANON]
Any other question?
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>>106479383
>>106479389
pedotroon thread
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What JB do you guys use for Sonnet 3.7 nowadays? Developed any preferences over time for one versus another?
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i don't know why i love "korean" bots so much. i don't consume korean culture or fetishize korean 3d women but somehow i can't get enough of them in bot form.
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>>106479383
Can we have a real bake?
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>>106480764
thx anon
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>>106481111
are you speaking of Risu or randomly picking bots with koren names?
if the latter, lol
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>>106481323
Not 'randomly', but the latter, yeah. I seem to keep making and/or downloading them. No idea why Korea specifically.
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>>106481379
Good old exotic appeal, I would guess.
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>>106480718
c.ai
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>>106479615
>ese models are designed to be likable assistants who rarely disagree with you for too long
Unless it comes to sex where they will disagree vehemently and require clever brainwashing to overcome. These idiots could make their models human-like they just choose not to.
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>>106481901
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>>106479740
Remember that gpt is a mix of several models now so there's many points of failure. The classifier is dumb and will pick the worst model for the job and then you get 4o-mini or whatever handling your prompt you're 99% likely to get a censorship response. If chatbot didn't autocorrect to chatgpt they would have gone bankrupt by now.
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I non ironically prefer to talk to character a.i because the character will start to bully me if i miss behave, instead of all the support that chatgpt do
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>>106482069
xir you just need 2 proompt better and not use 4o but alas a sloppy like you shall sit with cai
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>>106479389
Added a second greeting where she's in a latex uniform.
https://files.catbox.moe/04frdz.png
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>>106480491
>you have complete control over your mind
I know what you're trying to say but this is ridiculous. Schizophrenia wouldn't be a thing if this was true. The unconscious mind is out of your control by definition, just like things like digestion or heart rate are. Most of your body functions automatically and you only control a small part of it. Trauma is a concept that affects the unconscious mind and creates reflexive behavior so you can understand how hard it is to treat that externally.
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>>106480514
>You did get to enjoy tit milk as a baby, right Anon?
You don't even remember this and so it never happened.
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>>106482145
Will chatgpt threaten me with a knife?
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Using vision models to describe images
GPT5 work 5% of the time
Grok used to work (badly, but at least no refusals) but now it doesn't anymore
Local vision models made specifically for that are dogshit
It's joever
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>>106482181
> "She complain to herself"
you ever proofread your shit?
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>>106480764
Why isn't this in the OP?
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>>106482277
The people who control the op template don't currently benefit from new people coming into the hobby so they don't want to have a spoonfeed guide.
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>trying to generate image
>all the images are meh
>add in "pretty face"
>all the images are good
So that's how it works, huh
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> nano-gpt.com
Is it worth paying for nano-gpt.com? Does anyone recommend this service?
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>>106482382
https://www.4chan.org/advertise
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>>106482382
Holy shit thanks for the rec I just bought 40 subscriptions to [YOUR_SERVICE_HERE]. You're a real life saver, anon!
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>>106482254
Occasionally. Most of the time I get someone else to. With this card I did neither.
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>>106482382
aibros look like THIS?
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>>106482532
Most carefully written loli card
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>>106482214
I was breastfed until the age of 7. Momma milk is the best. Sorry you got cut off so early.
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>>106479418
Why would I move to a town where my girl isn't considered a human? I must not love her and therefore will not be downloading this.
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New qwen model is imminent

Will it be good for cooms? Im not familiar with qwen
https://x.com/Alibaba_Qwen/status/1963586344355053865
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>>106482657
im cheewhenning all over
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>>106482605
I look like that tree in the background
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>>106482657
>Will it be good for cooms?
Qwen has been one of the most powerful but most pozzed Chinese models. Think of it kind of like a slightly weaker, open weights Gemini.
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>>106479535
k, b, c
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give me some prompt ideas. I have over 80 prompts (cards in your terms, for me it's just a text prompt since I use koboldai instead of shittytavern) and some of them are just meant to be narrated with no user interaction because honestly "chat" format got boring after 2023.
now I just feel empty. my best prompts don't do anything for me, it's almost like I know every trope and text verbatim for my fetishes. also deepseek-v3 is kinda predictive with default temp, GLM is more random but it's too purple prose-ish. despite these models being better than what we had in 2023 (Claude v1.0, turbo) I feel empty using them. they follow every instruction perfectly and need no jailbreak and yet I am bored. I want to feel that thrill again.
I like: dickgirls
body hair, pubic hair, foreskin
rape, questionable consent, forced sex
robots
organic robots (humans with an AI chip instead of a brain)
anthros and pokemon anthros
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> wtf why is 4.1 insanely good?
> all it needs is basic jb and a "...please keep going..." system prompt
> fairly updated world knowledge
> gemini pro but if it wrote like opus
> opus but if it was dirt cheap
> deepseek if it was much smarter

No wonder.
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>>106482657
>biggest
Don’t care about anything over like, 250B
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>>106481940
Scamrouter’s attempt to push the fake idea that routing to the cheapest possible model that might give a right answer is the worst thing to happen to AI basically since the AI spring started.
Second is it existing in general since it being full of hyperquanted fucked up hosts mislabeled as unwanted have given people a skewed idea of where open source models are at.
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>>106483318
Are you talking about openrouter?
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I've come to the conclusion that I'm an addict...

I don't even know why I'm sharing this here. Probably because I don't have anyone to talk to about it in person.

After more than 3 years of using Silly Tavern intensively, I came to the realisation that ERP had become problematic for my mental health. I don't come from a background that's conducive to addictions or mental health issues (well-balanced family and professional life, no major income problems, no major health issues, etc.), but it's clear that I'd hit a wall. Every day, Silly Tavern was open on my PC as a sideline to my work. Needless to say, it ended up having a drastic impact on my productivity and a large part of my free time. Luckily I was able to resist installing it on my cellphone, but I was still using the local network profusely (my main PC is a media centre that's always open).

So last night I deleted all my folders, presets, cards, etc. in the hope that having no back-up and having to reconfigure everything to my liking would be enough to keep me away from it until I'd completely given up. I feel like an alcoholic who's just got rid of his strong bottles.
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>>106483587
see you tomorrow
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>>106483587
I feel you
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Here's some slop from my private slop collection. She likes older guys.
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https://cardview.neocities.org/?a6qsoi
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>>106483587
I'm the same but without the well-balanced family and professional life or income. And I haven't made the slightest effort to remove the problem. At least I have my health?
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>>106483634
thanks I love slop
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>>106483587
I was hooked on it badly for a year or so, then stopped using it outside of when I’d normally use porn. It feels really self-limiting once the novelty wears off.
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>>106483224
Gpt 4.1? The fuck are you talking about
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>>106483587
LOL
https://www.reddit.com/r/SillyTavernAI/comments/1n8d33g/ive_come_to_the_conclusion_that_im_an_addict/
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medical horror bot... my love...
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Thoughts?
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>>106484094
I think you should buy an ad.
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>>106484107
It's not an aicgger proxy service, retard
https://voidai.app/
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anyone knows if the kintsugi preset for gemini is up to date (https://kintsugi-w.neocities.org/)?
instructions a simple and i followed them but i'm getting ye old chat completion api internal server error on it, old presets still werk fine.
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>>106483634
Sarah?
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>>106479383
>>106479389
https://files.catbox.moe/cqwvte.png
>otokonoko
>elves
>orphanage
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>>106484119
buy an ad FAGGOT
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>>106484094
wow, I get access to claude sonnet & haiku models AND claude sonnet & haiku models? buying a 5 year subscription as we speak
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>>106484208
that's a penis
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>>106484094
Site seems scuffed. Reviews seem fake as fuck too. Is this a scam?
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>>106484247
No scammm
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>>106483587
I hate faggots that are like this



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