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Prev: >>106472558
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>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
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https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

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>X99 + 9070XT
only in Brazil would you think of this
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Is it just me or do a lot of PC parts tend to have issues ? It's not just Nvidia, AMD and Intel have them too. Sometimes it's CPUs, sometimes it's motherboards, sometimes it's GPUs or SSDs. It feels cyclical and like nary a generation of any product really releases and doesn't have some kind of issue.
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>>106482121
its just you
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>>106482121
yes. the last time a highend gpu didnt have any issues was the 3090ti, and that was only because it was basically a second revision 3090 that fixed all the flaws of the original like overheating vram, failing vrms and high temps/noise
tl;dr always avoid the 1st revisions of any products to avoid design flaws
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So apparently jedec 7200 cl64 is a thing now
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It's over for Radeon

RTX 5080 AND RTX 5070TI to be discontinued NEXT MONTH

Don't get too much buyers remorse now
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>>106482230
>discontinuing cards that just came out
How about not releasing gimped gpus in the first place.
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>>106482283
Thanks for beta testing!
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if they have access to 3gb vram chips why would they make worse gpus with 2gb ones
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so that they can sell to the consumer twice in one generation, think of the shareholders you anti-semite
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>>106482296
>why would they make worse gpus with 2gb ones
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it's crazy that the 5090 is stuck with 2gb modules and they want 4X the 5090 MSRP for the one with 3gb modules
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>>106482330
The greediest companies make the most amount of money while offering the least in return. Every single time. Though it turns out in the PC market space that's everyone.
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>>106482296
Those 24Gb GDDR7 chips weren't readily available last year, reserved for 5090 laptops and some workstation cards.
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>>106482121
Not having one company like Nvidia release an all in one pc on the same mobo. APU, GPU, CPU, you put a flat vapor chamber with air cooling going right through it, in a small box.
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>>106482359
nvidia prob has a warehouse full of 3gb vram chips that they coould've used but opted not to
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>>106482336
>Though it turns out in the PC market space that's everyone.
Except thermalright
But yeah out of literally every hobby I've been in. The PC market is the absolute greediest.
There is also something about the PC market where it seems to have the biggest group that gets hung up on minor performance differences.

Any other hobby I've seen debates literally spanning a decade about what's the best only for the very vast majority of people to buy from whoever is giving the best value at the time.
God I wish PCs where still like that.
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>>106482368
Samsung's press release for 24Gbit GDDR7 said they're ready to produce those ICs in early 2025.
The launch batches of RTX 50 cards were being made in Q3/Q4 '24.
https://semiconductor.samsung.com/news-events/news/samsung-develops-industrys-first-24gb-gddr7-dram-for-next-generation-ai-computing/
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>>106482398
I dont understand what "24Gbit GDDR7 " is exactly
5090 launched with 32gb gddr7 using 16x 2gb modules
then they have the pro AI chips using 3gb modules
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>>106482396
>the PC market where it seems to have the biggest group that gets hung up on minor performance differences.
cars are the same and there's a lot of weird overlap between these spaces
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>>106482330
if only there was a leaked 5090 vbios that supports 3gb modules so it can be modded in easily
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>>106482440
>I dont understand what "24Gbit GDDR7 " is exactly
The GDDR7 chips with 2GB capacities are 16Gb models released in 2023, 24Gb GDDR7 chips with 3GB capacity are a different product.

>5090 launched with 32gb gddr7 using 16x 2gb modules
>then they have the pro AI chips using 3gb modules
The RTX Pro 6000 Blackwell cards were launched later in March '25.
NVIDIA was prioritizing limited 24Gbit GDDR7 supplies to workstation & high-end laptop models.
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>>106482487
>16gb models
is it not limited by how many 2gb modules you stuff in? Like 5070 has 6, 5070 ti has 8
what if you put in 10 to make a 20gb chip? Does it stop working? but 32gb doesnt because its 2 times 16 somehow? Whats the 16gb module?
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>>106482230
Wtf would the performance uplift be coming from? Is he just making things up again?
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>>106482226
i've seen a ramkit come with 884 trfc and im like damn they will really do anything to get ryzen to boot
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>>106482553
overclocking the core (upto +15%) and shipping with faster vram (upto +5%)
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Treat that VRAM like its gold and product time limitation.
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>>106482318
Of course they have, 5090 is an AI card that is selling like hotcakes, especially to China, and it's included in that revenue. Also a lot of people just can't be arsed waiting anymore for an upgrade.
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>>106482553
>Wtf would the performance uplift be coming from?
magic. like how 4070 ti super hyber turbo was so good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDpr84DK7xQ
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>>106482514
The number & type of GDDR chip you can pair to a GPU depends on the GPU's total memory bus & the PCB design.
The GPU's memory bus width determines how many memory lanes (& physical chips) can be set.
A GDDR memory chip has a standardized 32-bit memory interface width.

So a 5090 with a 512-bit total memory bus can be specced with 16 GDDR7 chips (16 x 2GB = 32GB model).
For the RTX Pro 6000 Blackwell, NVIDIA is using clamshelled 24Gb (3GB) GDDR7 chips = (16 x 3GB x 2 sets = 96GB)

For your 5070 example, this GPU has a 192-bit total memory bus, so it's expected to use six GDDR7 chips (2GB or 3GB variant).
That's why the 5070 has a total of 12GB VRAM, and the 5070 Super is rumored to have 18GB.
Increasing memory capacity by clam shelling is out of the question for the 5070.
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Asked a while back about a deal for a 5060 ti. Got it but I wanted to make sure about the PSU since the MSI variant needs a 12 pin connector instead of 8. I have a Straight Power 11 850w power supply, is the adapter that comes with the card enough and or should I upgrade the PSU as well?
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>>106482553
There's a decent amount of overclocking headroom left in those chips, which would explain at least 5~8% of the attainable performance.
The 5070 Super is rumored to be getting a slight GPU upgrade.
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>>106482646
>The number & type of GDDR chip you can pair to a GPU depends on the GPU's total memory bus & the PCB design.
okay so design it to allow 20gb using 10x 2gb? No?
>The GPU's memory bus width determines how many memory lanes (& physical chips) can be set.
same as before
>A GDDR memory chip has a standardized 32-bit memory interface width.
hmm

>5090 can be16 GDDR7 chips
>6000 clamshelled 24Gb (3GB) GDDR7 chips = (16 x 3GB x 2 sets = 96GB)
neat

>For your 5070 example, this GPU has a 192-bit total memory bus, so it's expected to use six GDDR7 chips (2GB or 3GB variant).
they can design it differently then?
>5070 Super is rumored to have 18GB.
a bit late now that millions of people have a shitty 12gb gpu
>Increasing memory capacity by clam shelling is out of the question for the 5070.
so they designed it wrong and now they're stuck selling wrong gpus
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>>106482666
The adapter bundled with the card is fine; the 5060 TI doesn't draw enough power to be a danger to most people.
Server cards with those power connectors consume more power than a 5060 Ti.
Read the recommended bend clearance on this page, it applies to adapters too.
But Seasonic is sharing conservative guidance.
https://knowledge.seasonic.com/article/72-psu-recommendations-for-nvidia-rtx-4000-cards
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>>106482680
>>106482553
its only 10% uplift from oc. this has been common for gpus for a long time. it wont change anything unless your gpu is already hitting below 60fps as a base because that means framegen is dipping below 120.
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>>106482697
>okay so design it to allow 20gb using 10x 2gb? No?
The GPU chip needs a 320-bit memory bus for that 10x 2GB configuration.
Even the 5080 doesn't have that much bus width.
The memory bus is a physical interface in the GPU.

The goal of every GPU designer is to sell the smallest possible chip, you cut down on memory bus width to achieve that.
AMD has similar plans with their next set of GPUs according to >>106475685
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>>106482723
Thanks anon.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZKJZYd
heres babies first build
im open for 1440p monitor suggestions
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>>106482794
so what was amd smoking when they are designing the xtx
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>>106482697
>so they designed it wrong and now they're stuck selling wrong gpus
The 5070 is the most popular RTX 50 series card according to the latest Steam Hardware Survey.
It's fine for normie gamers, even for most people in /pcbg/.
The settings that usually push the 5070's 12GB VRAM over the edge are too demanding for the 5070 to performantly render.

Watch NVIDIA market the expanded memory capacity for local AI projects.
They have been pivoting GeForce to be relevant to non-gamers.
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>>106482831
AMD was prioritizing a GPU design that minimized the size of the 5nm Graphics Compute Die while trying to compete against the 4090 & 4080.
Smaller 5nm chips needed for Radeon cards means more TSMC 5nm wafers are available for Epyc & Ryzen CPU chiplets.
AMD gave more VRAM than the 4080 because that's how they compensate against GeForce cards (RX 480 & 580 8GB vs 1060 6GB etc.)
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>>106482857
If you go into any GPU heavy college course in the country they basically forced you to buy nvidia and that was before the AI boom it's 10x worse now
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>>106482831
the good shit that said 8K gaming was what it was made for
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>>106482889
rdna3 was a mistake
rdna4 should have been released 2 years ago
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>>106482121
Because PCs are made of a bunch of different parts that need to work together and the people making all the parts don't communicate very well with each other. Also they want to cheap out to make more money.
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>>106482831
they used chiplets instead of monolith and gddr6 instead of gddr6x to cut down on costs.
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>>106482805
Region? US?
9600X doesn't need an AIO, I'd get an aircooler and spend the savings on upgrading the storage capacity to a 2TB NVMe drive.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MFvD4D/id-cooling-frozn-a620-pro-se-58-cfm-cpu-cooler-frozn-a620-pro-se

You might have to flash the board BIOS before the board can work with a Ryzen 9000 CPU.
Not difficult, but follow the instructions carefully.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTkXunUAriE
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There's no way the 5070ti super will go for 750$, the cheapest model in western Europe is like 830€ or something
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>>106482976
stop kvetching about prices and just pay for the premium
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>>106482943
Top 10 gpus on the planet speed wise:

GeForce RTX 5090
152%
GeForce RTX 4090
116%
GeForce RTX 5080
100%
GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER
89%
GeForce RTX 4080
89%
Radeon RX 7900 XTX
88%
GeForce RTX 5070 Ti
87%
Radeon RX 9070 XT
83%
Radeon RX 7900 XT
GeForce RTX 3090 Ti
75%
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>>106482995
lopsided performance between raster and rt/pt and lack of upscaling destroyed any value proposition of rdna3
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>>106483003
lack of ai upscaling*
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>>106483003
>>106483007
transistor count is king
thats why 5090 and 4090 leap ahead
those are all the top 10 fastest gpus on the planet
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>>106483003
people who spent 1k € on an amd gpu that couldnt do anything besides run games at native at higher fps than competition were insane
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>>106483015
you buy based on transistor count. anything more or less is stupid.
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>>106482994
Pay for my premium dick nigger
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>>106483013
>>106483019
>transistor count is king
>you buy based on transistor count
Except the 7900 XTX has more transistors than the 4080/Super & 5080, and the 7900 XTX is slower than all three of those cards according to that "fastest gpus" post.
In fact, the 7900 XTX's GCD itself has almost as many transistors as the entire 4080 or 5080 GPU.
Inefficient.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-7900-xtx.c3941
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4080.c3888
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5080.c4217
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How much performance am I losing without Above 4G and Resizeable BAR? Win10 RTX 4080.
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>>106483062
they must have wasted a lot of transistors on the IF hubs in the gcd and mcd which did zero for performance and only increased power draw, just to save a couple of pennies
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>>106482994
He was totally right though. A 2080ti or really anything from the 2060 super onwards is still good to go today, 1080ti and 5700xt or vega not so much.
Blackwell is going to be the new baseline like Turing was
>>106482995
You max out the memory slider on a 4070ti or 5070 and they beat the 3090ti at 4k. At 1440p and 1080p they're already faster by default.
>>106483003
No DLSS alternative is/was a way bigger deal.
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>>106483082
Depends on the game, but GeForce cards are generally less reliant on ReBAR because of their larger on-die L1 & L2 cache.
You won't lose much performance running the card @ Gen 3 x16 either.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-pci-express-scaling/28.html
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>>106482230
>rdna5 / udna planned for april 2027 mass production
holy shit radeon is dead
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>>106482121
>>106482964
It's something that people need to realize.
No one selling you components guarantees you a working PC ultimately.
Companies will do whatever to get away with selling things that may not actually work correctly with other parts because as far as their concerned their liability ends on the specific component.
Mobo vendors for example doing whatever with CPU, power limits, voltages, etc. As long as what they are doing isn't damaging their motherboard, they couldn't give two shits about how the CPU or RAM is doing, it's not their problem.

You also see this with RAM, you'll find kits that are rated at a much higher speed than what any OEM is willing to offer and it's on the basis that the DIMM vendor isn't responsible for the stability of your PC. Their liability purely ends at the RAM itself and it's up to you to determine if their RAM is going to be an issue.
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>>106483124
amd is a console silicon manufacturer
all gaming related improvements are done to appease sony, i guess microsoft too but they might not even make another console

ps6 comes out in 2027 2028?
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>>106483124
but he did say the (3.7ghz+) 9080xt with 24gb of gddr7 will be released in the meantime as a stopgap until rdna5 is ready
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https://starforgesystems.com/products/voyager-iii-ultimate

So guys I haven't had a gaming PC in about 10 years and I'm too scared/retarded to build my own.
The very best one is 1000$ off for the labor day sale, just wondering if this is actually a good deal by any means.

For $5,299.99 USD:

CPUAMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D
CPU CoolerStarforge Custom Bitspower 360mm Liquid Cooler
RAMTeamgroup Delta RGB 64GB DDR5 6000 CL38 (2x32GB)
MotherboardMSI B850 Tomahawk Wifi
Graphics CardGeForce RTX™ 5090 32GB

Its probably overkill, but I just want something that is future proof and can run anything for the next 5 years. I finally have the money and ready to pull the trigger on this. Bad idea?
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>>106483158
whats your annual income?
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>>106482970
germany
the aio was pretty cheap for around 70 bucks here, so i thought why not
i have another 1tb nvme ill plan to use for secondary storage
i have this amazing luck where the big local hardware store has all monitors on display turned off, and the ones that are turned run some crappy 720p advertisement video so i cant really compare them by eyegpv
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>>106483158
>64GB DDR5 6000 CL38
For that price? Seriously?
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>>106483158
get 6000 cl30 ram instead of cl38
be careful of the 5090's power draw since it is very prone to melting from heavy use. the only real way to prevent this currently is to get an astral with per-pin current monitoring. its more sensible to just get a 5080 that pulls 2/3 as much power which doesnt push the 12v-2x6 connector to its limits
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>>106483185
>5080
and thats also a poor choice when the 5070ti is 85-90% as fast for a $250-400 less
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>>106483158
>streamer pc company
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>>106483158
you should ask the prebuilt PC general
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>>106483165
About 25k a year as a line cook, but my rent is cheap at 600 a month.
I just really want a good PC more than anything in the world right now.
And im planning on getting into making Indie games as a hobby (and to maybe get out of my shitty career choice)
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>>106483222
wat
buy a <2k € pc with 5070 ti and 9800x3d and build it yourself
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>>106483185
>since it is very prone to melting from heavy use
More ones are working fine than ones burnt, + source on claims?

>the only real way to prevent this currently is to get an astral with per-pin current monitoring
literally only warns if uneven power draw? + source on claims?

>its more sensible to just get a 5080 that pulls 2/3 as much power which doesnt push the 12v-2x6 connector to its limits
even lesser power hungry 5000 series have burnt connectors too + source ?
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>make an all black linux build
>get cucked by the GPU RGB not being controllable in any way

feelsbadman
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>>106483158
I genuinely stopped reading at B850 Tomahawk

you must be genuinely retarded to pay $5000+ for a prebuilt with a B850 in it
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>>106483229
i have a bridge to sell you if you think a 5090 can last 5 years with how its built
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>>106483236
just disconnect the rgb
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>>106483250
literally everything he/she/you/xir/xem said is verifiably false though
you can begin with that
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>>106483260
you even contradicted yourself in your own post. you have nothing to add to the discussion
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>>106482805
What other anon said. Cursed price though, change something to fix that please. I tried 2 1440p KTCs for my AM5 build and they're solid monitors. The Miniled and IPS ones
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>>106483192
Can say the same thing about the 70ti vs 70 (if you ignore the vram)
>>106483185
>be careful of the 5090's power draw since it is very prone to melting from heavy use
You're exaggerating, how many cases in the wild are there of burnt cables this gen now? I bet you can still count them on one hand.
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>>106483115
That's good to know, thanks.
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>>106483266
your concession has been accepted
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>>106483158
I'd rather ask a technician @ Best Buy, Microcenter, or a local PC shop to build the PC from the parts you've bought (and get the 3/5 year repair/maintenance warranty).
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kVDyC8

>>106483177
Check reviews from these options, someone recently bought the G50D and he really likes it.
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/9xLdnQ/samsung-odyssey-g50d-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-ls27dg500enxza
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/k8GnTW/gigabyte-m27q-270-2560x1440-170-hz-monitor-m27q
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/jXmNnQ/lg-27gs75q-b-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-27gs75q-b
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/MsQKHx/asus-tuf-gaming-vg27aql3a-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-90lm09a0-b013b0
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/JPKnTW/dell-alienware-aw2725dm-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-aw2725dm
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/pGqBD3/asus-tuf-gaming-vg27aq-270-2560x1440-165-hz-monitor-vg27aq
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>>106483185
>>106483228
>>106483248


Ok thanks guys I guess Ill hold off, like i said im retarded and havent built a PC in 10 years.
But whats so bad about the B850 Tomahawk just curious.
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>>106483158
Is this bait? That's a 3000 dollar PC for 5000+ dollars, and most of that cost is just the GPU. That RAM is garbage, that motherboard is a budget board and a 9950X3D will toast the VRMs on that thing up
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>>106483158
It's not a good deal, but it is a pretty killer PC which is what you want. Who cares about the mobo, he's not going to be tinkering around inside anyways
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>>106483222
>>106483228
Yeah, I don't know how it works in the US but in the EU, you can just pick your parts and have the different pc stores assemble it for you for like 70-100 euro. But I would advice to just assemble yourself, it's never been easier and theres millions of videos on how to do it on youtube. Put the rest of your money in an indexfund so you can buy a robowaifu in 15 years.
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>>106483283
>You're exaggerating, how many cases in the wild are there of burnt cables this gen now? I bet you can still count them on one hand.
I was thinking long term like >3 years on. We're already seeing a lot of reports of burnt connectors on 4090s that were working fine the last 3 years and were only found out because their owners taking out their cards. With regards to connector's safety margin, the 5090 is much worse than the 4090 as the latter only really used 410W at worst and averaged in the mid/high 300s in power draw while the 5090 is often running at 550 if not maxed out at 600w while gaming in high loads.
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>>106483311
>>106483323

Ok thanks all check that out. Seems like a way smarter idea.

And not bait, Im retarded. Thanks for saving me from doing something stupid.
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>>106483315
no idea, its a great board. it just doesnt look that nice compared to fancier ones on the market
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>>106483258
theres no rgb specific connection
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>>106483380
Are you competent enough to install the CPU cooler & video card?
If you get someone else to build the PC, you need to safely transport the completed build.
Make sure the PC is securely packed so that the video card won't sag/break while transporting it.
If you get an AIO, the weight of the CPU cooler is less of a risk.
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>>106483236
are you super sure? what did you try?
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>>106483236
Try openrgb
But if it's a newish model or one of the less popular ones, it won't be supported
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>>106483478
running the gigabyte software through wine led nowhere, then I tried openrgb and it doesnt recognize it. Also shutting down rgb in the MB does nothing

>>106483505
yeah its a 9060xt, guess im just stuck waiting for an update
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>>106483454

Id probably have someone else do it, but ill take my time and research a bit more. And Ill keep those things in mind.
For right now I just wanted to know if the Starforge is a good deal even though its 1000$ off and the answer seems to be no.
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>>106483511
try opening an issue on their gitlab then. all you need to provide is the pcie id and someone will add it to the whitelist.
since its a gigabyte and not a lesser brand like pny or kfa2, the rgb logic is already implemented and the device just needs to be whitelisted
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MY COMPONENTS ARE GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE BUT I'M GETTING PAID NEXT WEEK
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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What are the benefits here and can I have a modern Mobo and CPU, SSDs and all that but also have the old GPU?
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>>106482995
*sad RTX PRO 6000 96GB noises*
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>>106483607
2 months for "Black Friday" my guy.
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>>106483642
I ain't waiting that long
plus it's a meme outside of US
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My 5070 is obsolete
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>>106483315
It's a fine board for a $1500-$2000 build. Great mid-range. A $5000 build with a 5090 should be on an X870E board for that. Gen 4 SSDs when Gen 5 is available in that build too, the RAM...basically they put a 5090+9950X3D in that build, then nickel and dimed you on every other part in it.
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>PS5 raises price and lowers the size of SSD from 1TB to 825GB
ah good, they are getting screwed too, it's not just us
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at this point, 5k 27" qdoled might be the first usable oled on the desktop due to the ppi
like literally you need this minimum or better to use it on the desktop, nobody should have even made oled monitors before then
maybe woled is less retarded but people complain about it too, maybe it does not fry your pupils and just looks bad idk

>>106483716
the old one was 800 the new slim was 1tb though or did the swap back
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>>106483684
literally unplayable
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>>106483757
Yes
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>>106483777
why do you post unoptimized settings for low end gpus
this isnt /v/
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>>106483796
because it's ogre
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>>106483829
guess I'll be playing the game with mere >100 fps on my system
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>>106483841
my god how will you last with that torture
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How do I go about attempting to setup a new monitor (AOC Q27G4ZR) without a colorimeter? I don't do graphic design or video editing but can appreciate somewhat accurate colours. The monitor is kinda new and not got a lot of reviews (normally one of the good monitor sites has a "recommended settings" bit in a review). As for the monitor itself, it's a nice budget 1440p 240hz ips screen, you get what you pay for (£170). It's a massive upgrade over my old XG2402 so I'm happy, even if it's not "amazing" when compared to slightly more expensive offerings.
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>>106483777
>>106483829
What is this AAAAAAAAAAAAA game?
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>>106483964
Cronos: The New Dawn
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>>106483311
Thanks anon
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>>106483829
around 30fps is still perfectly fine to have silky smooth gaming experience
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I have:
14700K
64GB DDR4
3090
4K 60Hz TV

what would you all upgrade if you were me
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>>106484087
buy a 65" qd oled tv thats on sale rn
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>>106484087
Get a high refresh rate oled display
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>>106484112
which one, father?
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>>106484127
s90d
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>>106483902
Go through a bit of these tests
https://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/

>>106484005
If you're the German monitor shopper, consider this AOC monitor as well.
The parent company of AOC also owns the right to produce Philips monitors.
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/bGVfrH/aoc-q27g4xn-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-q27g4xn
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>>106483902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avJTz1JhkR4
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>>106484087
go outside nigga
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Cumpleted it on Intel Arc.
Im tired of bad games.

>you need 2000$ gpu
I dont trust this slop.
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She is dreaming for your Big White PCBG.
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>>106484277
why would you ever play a game soo bad the studio that made it was closed within a month of launch? i hope you pirated that goyslop.
>>106484283
she's already balding lmao.

>>106483902
just use your eyes, pick the game that looks the best to you, that has the nicest, and most robust color schemes (Mordhau for me), and pause it in-game and simply adjust the colours until it looks good to you.

Problem solved, you're wildly overthinking it.
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>>106484087
300 buck ips 4k 160hz monitor and go to sleep
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>>106484073
lmao poor, brown and coping, get a real job Ranjeesh.

>>106484087
your monitor sucks, for browsing the internet alone its awful at 60hz.
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>>106483684
>>106483777
>>106483829
The stunning and brave gt 1030 can run it at 720p 40 fps no upscalers.
>>106484300
>closed within a month
Thank God.
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>>106484345
>stunning and brave
Truly
>CPU : 100%
Kino
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After all this coping, research, meticulous autism, we all went full circle and went back into IPS being the gold standard, default choice

>WOLED
chrominance overshoot or diagonal dithering + fringing still due to non traditional matrix

>QDOLED
insane fringing, something will always be wrong, no ease for eyes focusing due to diamond pixel substructure

>VA
slow smear slop and miniled blooming lag cope

>TN
only zowie 600hz here for 1500€

>IPS
You were at my side all along.... my guiding moonlight

CRT/Plasmafags need not apply
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>>106484404
In 2020 onward there was fast VA panels like g7 available and that was the best image quality for gaming and IPS became entirely redundant.

Now the qd oled monitors were much better image quality, hdr + high color volume and richfags bought those immediately.

Because the oleds entered the market and become cheap really fast it didnt allow va minileds time to shine. People tried to sell those for >1k € which made zero sense.

TN remains viable for cs2 players thanks to strobing I guess. IPS is deader than a dead dead guy.
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My friend gave me his aurora r10 but the cooling sucks. So I'm thinking of taking out the gpu (rtx 3070), cpu (ryzen 9 5900), ram and drives and making my first pc build. What psu, motherboard, and cpu cooler, and fans should I get?
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>>106483902
i just went around looking at pictures and screenshots where i knew what the colors were supposed to look and tried to match those.
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>>106481978
Finally some good fan LEDs that arent just red.
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https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/system-stutters-with-ryzen-7-9800x3d.338907/

things like this scare me about ryzen
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>>106484467
its a waste to buy new components to support a mid tier parts from 5 years ago
you'd be better off buying entirely new pc.
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>>106484467
the cheapest stuff
the most ram
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>>106484467
Learn to undervolt and repaste/repad your parts. Not worth changing it out like other anon said
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>>106484480
Should've just manually tuned his 13700K.
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>>106483684
What’s the point of the 5070 when the 9070 xt exists?
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is the ghosting on this bad boy really that bad ?
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>>106484603
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/samsung/odyssey-neo-g7-s32bg75

seems fine
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>>106484432
>In 2020 onward there was fast VA panels like g7 available and that was the best image quality for gaming and IPS became entirely redundant.
Slow + Bent + VA gamma shift view angles + 32" + coatings + Delaminating panels due to Samsung + samsung QC + overpriced

>Now the qd oled monitors were much better image quality, hdr + high color volume and richfags bought those immediately.
I bought two so far, Fringing was concluded being the eye strain problem + if you bought a bad firmware once you get additional aids
Now you have to wait for 220ppi+ to cope, maybe then they will be good

>Because the oleds entered the market and become cheap really fast it didnt allow va minileds time to shine. People tried to sell those for >1k € which made zero sense.
VA remains a highly suspicious buy, they can't match budget IPS, I would never

>TN remains viable for cs2 players thanks to strobing I guess.
strobing also kills eyes, allegedly

>IPS is deader than a dead dead guy.
budget? IPS
mid tier office/Gaymen? IPS
mid tier office/Gaymen+? 4k IPS

to be concluded: Does WOLED fuck up eyes? Now that I've concluded that everything is shit next on my potential tries before I throw in the towel are: LG C4 42", 4k 32" 240/480hz WOLED, 4k 27" QDOLED

I am getting fatigued, I don't wanna try more shit and return it, might aswell pass up on the 27" qd considering it already has fringing, wonder if WOLED isn't cucked, but the TV will have dithering which already looks like ASS, the 32" WOLED will still have worse rendering than a normie RGB IPS and the price is kinda still high too even with codes

>>106484622
>>106484603
that is the 43" VA thingy
and yeah the ghosting is bad
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>>106484570
A 9070xt is $150-$200 more expensive in the United States. Was more like $300+ when I bought this, but even if I was buying now I would probably still do a 5070 over anything else.
And almost every single game I play is Nvidia favored (plus I really really like Nvidia pt tech demos) or old/light enough that 10%-25% extra performance means dick because I'm already at 8k internal 100-zillion-fps.
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is this a good card
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>>106484679
if I with hold my opinions on msi you can consider if you want more than 1 hdmi output because it only has 1
asus has 2
and so on
other than that guess so
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>>106484679
5090 FE, TUF, or that Gaming Trio would be my choices.
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Does the waterblock in a Gigabyte Aorus 3090 Xtreme Waterforce cool the backplate mounted VRAM or do it not cover that?
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>>106484697
>>106484705
using display ports more than hdmi but thanks
what's a good motherboard to pair with it?
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>>106481978
wot fans? looks cozy
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>>106484666
all you play is dx11 shit? because those are all OLD. dx12 and vulkan amd has the 100% advantage.
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>>106482396
>Monopolies
Abolish IP and solve this problem. The declaration of intellectual independence will also likely solve the lithography bottleneck for modern civilization as well
>10000 original AMDs all competing with each other and the big firms
As per opposition i could think of;
> The normgroids and the monopolists
Will buy fake apple silicon and be happier than now.
The monopoly firms will go bankrupt and sell their stuff so better hardware can be engineered by actual professionals rather than legal teams with token businessmen and engineers sprinkled in to produce a barely acceptable product.
Respectively
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>people calling other poor because they didn't blow as much on PC as them
nobody is obligated to match your retardation
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>>106484744
Cyberpunk + Silent Hill 2 + RTX remix mods are most of what this gpu has been used for. So 2 games that are significantly better on Nvidia + an entire category amd is realistically locked out of.
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>>106484570
drones who slavishly paypig to Njudea because that's who they've been buying gpus from since forever. Also the 5070 should be cheaper than a 9070xt, they're in different performance brackets.

>>106484808
>Abolish IP and solve this problem.
you fucking retarded commies are as obnoxious as you are economically ignorant. While jews and globalists have made a farce out of IP+trademark laws, they are necessary to stimulate economic growth, when it protects the R&D of inventors/corporations that is.
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>tfw intel will save themselves with GPUs
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>>106484922
>Stimulate
>Economic growth
That's called malinvestment and it's advocacy is the reasoning that makes sure there's a massive fuckoff economic crash every decade desu.
>R&D
The reason normal people R&D is to make a better product to sell, not become modern disney, you don't need IP to invent anything, infact it is that someone can go to an authority and claim your invention as their monopoly in fraud defended by an army of lawyers that would be a threat against R&D.
Abolishing IP declaws these legal monopolists from staking a claim to your thoughts
AMD would be sued to oblivion and we would likely be using dual cores right now if the "economic stimulators" didn't break their rules regarding Intel in the 70s
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Bros Im an idiot. Today my new build was stuck while booting with orange light on the "DRAM" diagnostic led for a few minutes. Idiot like I'm I switched off the psu and when I switched on the PC resumed the POST process without me pressing the power button which is odd. Found out it could be my dram training on AM5 that could take several minutes sometimes. PC seems to work fine now but I'm worried I've fucked up something?
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lol
literally every single AMD build
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>>106485039
the more ram you have the longer it takes. if you have 32gb on average it takes about 2 minutes. after the first dram training the next boot time is much shorter if you have memory context restore enabled in the bios.
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>>106485066
People actually turn off their PC when sleep mode is standard for phones/laptops/etc?
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>>106485074
I have 32GB and it was a little longer than 2 minutes. Yeah it boot normally and fast now but if I accidentally turn off power once would it mess something up permanently?
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>>106485037
IPs provide financial incentives & protection for R&D.
People want to be well-compensated for their products/services.
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>>106484404
alright autism central
recommend me a 27" 4k 160hz monitor with high color accuracy for color sensitive work
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>>106484404
>WOLED
>QDOLED
>VA
>TN
>IPS
Aren't you forgetting someone?
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>>106485066
AM4 boots in 5 seconds
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>>106484743
Looks like Corsair fans.
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>>106484743
yeah, I can see the logo
its corsair rs120 argb
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>>106485128
IPs provide financial disincentives & monopoly rights for the first legally recognized version of a product, effectively making it anti-capital to be hoarded
People want to be monopolists who ban their competition so that they don't actually have to work again
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>>106485339
No one else made a serious alternative to CUDA when NVIDIA was all-in on it because it wasn't profitable enough.
NVIDIA is making a lot of money atm because they were the only ones crazy enough to set themselves up for this moment.



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