Is this good distro for a beginner?
>>106486662no.
Yes
maybe
kino endgame distroit really just works
I don’t know
Can you repeat the question?
>>106486662Yes, if you want to use Gnome. Anyway, I think it's inferior to Debian and Arch. The three mother distros.For me, I would start with some user-friendly version of Debian or Arch and then move on to one of these two.
>>106486662Yes. Contrary to the other anon, I'd suggest the KDE version. It's better than GNOME for most people and most use cases.https://fedoraproject.org/kde/downloadThe only caveat I'll add is that if the PC will mostly be used for gaming then one of the gaming-focused distros (like Bazzite) might be ideal. But honestly gaming works well regardless of distro nowadays, as long as you're using Steam.
>>106486979>Bazzitewhat's the difference between this and fedora? more fps? i'm on amd
>>106486662The kde version pushes garbage updates at a surprising frequency. I've had more Fedora kde installs than I have had Arch kde installs break. I cannot comment on the Gnome version of Fedora because I don't really get on with Gnome. In terms of just working then you can't go wrong with mint. I gave my Grandad a laptop with the version based on Ubuntu 22.04 and it's still working just fine (it has an uptime of like 2 years because the only time he turns it off is when he forgets to stick it on charge).
>>106487040Preinstalled Lutris I reckon.I highly doubt some stinky neets in the basement could cook up a distro that works better
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/dei/
>>106487126god fucking dammit. i really like fedora, im not swapping to another distro just because of this, but jesus christ its really dissappointing how far reaching the fucking propaganda reaches.
>>106487267oh im sorry that your lil white supremacy days are over ya stupid cuntblacks and browns can code better than ya pale monkeys deal with itdei is hiring people based on meritits the end of discriminationyou fuckers thought it was funny when you forced blacks to mow your lawns? now blacks are gonna be plowing your sisters and takin your well-payin jobsindians are gonna rule over your tech industryyou are gonna be their underlingsthat's what ya whities getthat's what ya fuckin get
>>106486662It's good except auditing your explicitly installed packages with dnf is aids and nearly impossible and it's the only reason I won't use it
>>106487040Honestly not much, especially on AMD. I use the "deck" version of Bazzite which basically makes the system behave like a Steam Deck, which is great for HTPCs. If you're using the desktop version then I think it's just the immutable version of Fedora with Steam preinstalled and some tools to easily set up some emulation stuff.
>>106486662Yes but it doesn't matter which distro you pick as a beginner. Every single distro is a good distro for a beginner because you don't know shit. It's only when you know shit that you pick a distro for you.
>>106487314I've never met a good black or brown decent programmer, ever, and I've been working in software engineering for more than 15 years. I'm sure they exist but they're not common.
>>106486662Watch SamTime latest video>AI summarize Yes
>>106487314i cant tell if this a shitpost or you're just retarded anon.
>>106487507to be fair thats the sign of a good shitpost
>>106486662It is actually the only caveat being RPM Fusion
Mint is the only distro a serious person would recommend to anyone
>>106486662beginner of what?its just a regular os that does all the normal stuff an os does. im using the KDE version
>>106487669>cinnamon>no wayland support in 2025yikes
>>106486662No, but this is.>>106487040It's even easier to use and more convenient.>>106487049>Preinstalled Lutris I reckon.There's a lot more stuff pre-configured and preinstalled.
>>106487669>all dependencies and almost all software just doesn't get updates for 2 years>no KDE or GNOME>no WaylandMint is literally an unusable toy OS.
>>106489476That's because it's based on Ubuntu LTS or Debian with LMDE. Stable is better than bleeding edge. The 6.16 kernel fucked up networking for many, which is on Fedora now. You wouldn't run into such an issue on LM.I'd rather stick with Debian with a 2 year old lts kernel to be honest. A beginner should not be picking testing distros like Fedora unless they have brand new hardware.I'd much rather use Firefox-ESR than the AI chatbot Firefox we have now too.
>>106489476Who in their right mind uses Wayland? Last I checked applications developed for Wayland first aren't even portable across Wayland implementations. No dev in their right mind is going to take on that level of work making sure their app works with KDE, Xfce etc etc when they could just target X11 and call it a day.
>>106489583>I'd much rather use Firefox-ESRSure, but you're the special snowflake here. Most people prefer having the latest version of software instead of being stuck on a 1-4 year old version. That's the whole reason people are salivating to the existence of Flatpaks and Appimages.Overall an average person will have more issues on an outdated/LTS version of pretty much any software out there.>The 6.16 kernel fucked up networking for many, which is on Fedora nowOne example of a bug making it to production doesn't really justify the suffering of using outdated software. Again, an average person wouldn't give a shit since there's an expectation that a fix will arrive directly from the developer in anywhere from a day to a week or two, depending on the complexity and severity of the problem. The problem with LTS distros is is that most of their software isn't officially LTS software, it's just a manual version freeze which is no longer supported by the developer. And distro maintainers don't backport bug fixes or fix bugs themselves, with very few exceptions. Usually the only thing that's done is ensuring a dependency/binary builds, while any existing bugs are not addressed at all.
>>106486662Depends what to mean by beginner. It needs more configuration compared to something like Mint that just works ootb. If you ever installed and set up an older OS like XP or earlier then it's still a lot simpler than that
>>106486662Fedora *will* eventually break and no beginner will know how to fix it. Nobody will help you either, since Fedora is just RHEL's unpaid QA distro, despite whatever people say. Mint Cinnamon edition is what Linux beginners should use and even stick to, as they develop their expertise. Many people circleback to Mint after distrohopping for good reasons.
>>106491035>Fedora *will* eventually breakWorks on my machine >Mint CinnamonLol, what's user-friendly about getting 90% CPU usage on YouTube?
>>106491035Eh, Cinnamon is quite shit and Mint is unusable unless you don't use your desktop much. If a distro doesn't have KDE I'm just never going to use it.I find that Aurora and Bazzite (improved Fedora Kinoite) are THE beginner/casual distros for 99% of people.So, no matter what you say Fedora really is the current best distro base, unless you prefer an Arch system. The Debian/Ubuntu ecosystem is only good on servers.
>>106487040Steam, Lutris, Proton GE, codecs, DXVK, nvidia drivers, winetricks/protontricks and dependencies for old/niche games.
>>106491035As others have said the immutable variants of Fedora don't break by design.
>>106486662no distro is good for beginner it is sham what they say about it being "friendly" "easy to use" pick one that looks nice, doesn't use snap/flatpack and doesn't need you to compile everything yourself. a thinkpad-anon found out the hard way the other day.
>>106491252Can I get an English version?
>>106487040- Proper nvidia drivers pre-installed- KDE Wallet is preconfigured- Gear Lever is pre-installed to handle Appimages- Distrobox+BoxBuddy pre-installed to let you use packages from other distros, and use packages/software without polluting your system- Waydroid pre-installed to let you run Android and Android applications- Btrfs Assistant pre-installed to let you make automated system snapshots/backups- Steam, Lutris, Protontricks, ProtonUpQt pre-installed to allow you to instantly start gaming- Flathub as the only and primary source of flatpaks by default, which avoids the issue of Fedora packaging flatpaks incorrectly and causing issues- Bazaar and Ptyxis pre-installed as better alternatives to GNOME Software/KDE Discover and the KDE Terminal.And these are just the differences between Bazzite and Fedora Kinoite/Silverblue. The additional differences from Fedora Workstation/KDE are:- Atomic system updates, they make system updates significantly more stable- Semi-immutable system, there's less chance of you messing something up and breaking your OS- rpm-ostree. It allows you to install software to the normally immutable system (which is why this is a semi-immutable distro). It keeps track of each of your custom system changes by applying them as layers on top of the base system, allowing you to easily undo/uninstall software (no other package manager does this).
>>106491252Desktop distros which don't use flatpaks and appimages as the primary source of software are immediately not user friendly.
>>106489465>>106491094>>106491398>BazziteScrolling on their website makes my shitbox lag, WTF
>>106491428It's a gaming distroThat's the minimum requirements benchmark
how can I understand CMOS Analog IC designis there a simulation website for these things?
>>106491428How bad is your PC? My shitty $200 laptop can render it perfectly fine even on Firefox which has pretty bad performance compared to Chromium browsers. I mean, it's a 20MB website with several animated webps, and a transition animation on each section of the page. So it's not really a lightweight site, but it's not something I'd expect to lag unless you're on a device weaker than a raspberry Pi 5.
>>106491482>Firefox which has pretty bad performance compared to Chromium browsersThis is not known to be true. Chromium browsers are total resource hogs.
>>106491515Hogging more RAM is irrelevant. Website rendering is much faster on Chromium browsers.
i can't believe retards here unironically recommend ublue images or anything ostree. it's something that will give good first impression, until they start facing unique to immutable problems that beginners won't comprehend. i would only run bazzite on a dedicated gaming console (like steamkek). >>106491482he probably had fractional scaling enabled, which is very compute expensive on xorg.
>>106491556>unique to immutable problems that beginners won't comprehendLike what? What would a normal person miss on immutbale distros (specifically ublue) that mutable ones provide?Not to mention the same can be said about mutable distros, as they're infinitely more prone to breaking after upgrading.>upgrade Ubuntu to the next major version>bugs everywhere, stuff is broken>update Arch once a month>20% chance something will get broken and you have to manually research and tinker with it>use Mint or Ubuntu LTS because upgrades are more tested (assuming you're fine with outdated software)>still breaks because people are told to use 3rd party PPAs which become instantly incompatible with the OS as soon as you upgradeA "beginner" would rather use an OS that's reliable than an OS where you can tinker with the system.
>>106491593>still breaks because people are told to use 3rd party PPAs which become instantly incompatible with the OS as soon as you upgradeHoly shit is this true?
>>106487126Shit guess I'm downloading Fedora. I always used Arch. Based.
>>106491641Yes, that's why many PPAs tell you to uninstall their packages and remove the PPA before upgrading to the next point releasehttps://launchpad.net/~kisak/+archive/ubuntu/kisak-mesa>It's strongly recommended to remove this PPA before upgrading to a newer Ubuntu release or using another mesa PPA.I've never in my life used Ubuntu without it shitting itself after a point release upgrade, even when I'm not using PPAs. I just completely gave up on it and anything based on it as soon as immutable distros became mainstream.
>>106491695What is it about PPAs that breaks?
>>106491482>How bad is your PC?Sandy Bridge i5 (desktop)To be more accurate, the site only lags at the very top and at the "Run your favorite" part, on both Firefox and Chromium (though Firefox is worse).
>>106491482>>106491716Dusted off my Chinkpad T440s (i5-4200U) which is typically even slower and it's fine, maybe it's because Sandy Bridge lacks AVX2.
>>106486936yea we love using year old kernels on debian with 6 month old hardware
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>>106486936>Yes, if you want to use Gnomeoutdated info,KDE Plasma has now the same standing as Gnome.https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Promote_KDE_Plasma_Desktop_variant_to_Edition