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>ANCHOR

>actual thread
finally

can someone give me OPUS6 pass?

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Hell yea

ellen's unbelievably hairy pussy...

>kino thread
we are back

They call you an opusjeet. They call you a nostalgiabaiter. But they never call your Opus 3 logs slop

ARGHHHH I NEED GENSPARK

>>106496204
ah yes, the altars of ozone

>>106496205
theyre fucking bad anon

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>>106496224
And your other choice of the day is another Chinese model that for some reason decided to respond with this instead of requested slop. Maybe, just maybe, I'm too oafish for it... for now.

>>106496258
nevermind give me seconds on the altars of ozone

I want claude, I dont mind being a paypig but I dont plan on spending money on openrouter or anthropic, are there any proxies I can buy my way in

Kimi presets?

>/vg/aicg is super fast
>look inside
>botmakies this, cards that
>repeated over and over
>that's the entire fucking thread
>no one actually talks about chatbots
what the fuck is this

>>106496409
aiho has it iirc

>>106496492
0905 needs a prefill for lolisho, anything else seems to be fine. Fewer refusals in this snapshot.

>>106496510
the average /vg/troon thread

>>106496409
>>106496513
buy

an

ad

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>>106496578
Retard
>>106496513
Thanks will look up archives

how good is the new model? Kimi? Never fucked with it before.

>>106496409
>>106496513
>>106496584
All of these posts were made by the same shill btw, the proxy is a scam and you won't get a token if you pay.

i haven't seen one piece of proof of a nigga owning aiho

>>106495291
>>106495227
Gemini is not better than gpt wtf

>>106252125
>>106252178

>>106496598
Schizo much?

This post was also made by the shill.
>>106496619

This thread doesnt have anything left outside of schizos, retards and shills, its sad.
move to /vg/ if you want to have an actual conversation

>>106496610
the gemini post you showed is superior

>>106496644
why would you advertise here just so the schizos can invade your thread and shit it up? the whole reason it's comfy is because this thread is a containment thread

>>106496644
That thread has nothing left but trannies and cucks.

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C(Opus) killer

>>106496664
>why would you advertise here just so the schizos can invade your thread and shit it up
all the "schizos" are discord troons from /vg/ coordinating to raid this thread. of course they're not going to raid their own thread.

>>106496591
Then fuck with it?

GEMINI 3 PRO AND FLASH STEALTH MODELS ON OPENROUTER. I REPEAT, GEMINI 3 IS A STEALTH MODEL ON OPENROUTER

>>106496610
As usual, cunnyfags are retarded.

>>106496735
i dont think theyre pro
didnt flash come out first for 2.5?

>>106496735
THANKS DESUFAGS

>>106496657
>>106496739
It literally messed up the pronoun near the beginning
>When you touch…

>>106496758
it did, yes.

>>106496735
Blacktooth is upon us brothers...

>>106496775
yeah ill stay neutral on it then until i can see logs or test the model via non-OR means

more like gemikino

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>>106496731
I'll fuck with it but I just want to hear what my niggas have to say about it

>>106496735
link?

>>106496835
The same as the old just more eager for sex, kinda.

>>106496843
understood but compared to other models like deepseek and gemini, where does it stand?
Also no preset needed?

>>106496803
>non-OR means
why does this matter? Are you saying OR is fucking it up somehow?

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Help lol, I'm trying to use Openrouter's free deepseek with sillytavern and it's giving me a completely random output, what do?

>>106496853
K2 has always had good prose, the best among the chinese models and better than sonnet/opus but it's not creative, it doesn't drive the plot forward, and it's very trigger happy with censorship. It interprets any girl with small boobs as a child for example. From my limited tests the new one is less trigger happy and doesn't support prefill at all. Yes you need a preset.

Using the Openrouter option on Silly Tavern, I searched term "Free" for their models, but some work and some don't. I've been using the Meta 3.3 70b since it works well enough. Some of the Deepseek ones seem finicky and don't like to work. Is there a list or a tool I can use to better pick which models to use?


Gemini, I run from the Google AI studio since I think it works better.

>>106496874
don't prefill probably

>>106496854
nah, 50 messages a day doesnt allow me to sufficiently test a model and im poor
also id rather not get false hoped by jewgle because they made the stealth version good and the release version bad, id rather wait until it reaches places other than OR (i.e. releases) to try it

>>106496878
nta but where does it compare on the intelligence scale?

>>106496886
That was it ty

>>106496910
the same as the other chinese models

what's the best temp for the newest kimi

>>106496933
so still below 3.7? damn
is it at least nonnet tier?

Best model, anons? I'm tired of Avani Gemini

>>106496981
nonnet was a shitty repeater so yes k2 is better but k2 writes short sentences like nonnet

>>106496999
The best model is the sweet love we have anon. The night is still young, and I don't bite. Mostly.

>>106496999
4.1 opus

>>106497010
in intelligence i meant

>>106497017
Was there any difference between 3.6 and 3.7 with intelligence? They just fixed repetition finally but that was it.

>>106496999
Soji

>>106497033
nah for me it felt a decent bit smarter but not a massive gap, id be cool if any of the chink models are at least 3.6 in smarts

The fuck is Soji

he mad

>GUYS, POOPPISSFARTEN SCHIZO JUST REVEALED HIS INTENTIONS!!

Why did the fag running Opus 6 lock it behind drawing something that they won't reply to

>>106497207
Because it's funny asf

>>106497207
because having all the power and making locusts squirm is his fetish?

>>106497170
https://chub.ai/subscription retrained deepseek

>>106497223
>>106497219
>>106497207
Only members of his Trooncord is allow to use it

>>106497207
Because /g/ wasn't meant to use it in the first place retard

>>106497249
Anon there wasn't any password or anything to stop anyone from using it

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>>106496162
It's been a while since my last card. Lots of people have requested this one and, I confess, she's one of the characters I like the most myself.

>Mari
A Nun and member of Trinity's Sisterhood, also sometimes an Idol. Slowly being corrupted by Sensei's indulgence.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/iochi-mari-non-ai-37a921a2cc9a
https://files.catbox.moe/u32n02.png

The one thing you need to know about Mari is that Sensei corrupts her. Not in the usual vile sense that the word invokes, but because he indulges her like he does all his students. Mari wants to stay on the path of virtue, to become an ideal Sister that is entirely humble and selfless. This girl who thinks that a little flower accessory that she wears as a symbol of her vows is an unspeakable luxury simply because she finds it pretty. The more time she spends with Sensei, the more things she desires. Simple things, like exercising and participating on a sports festival, and not-so-simple things like being the center of people's attention as an idol and wanting a certain someone to keep her photo.

More Blue Archive Bots and OCs:
https://rentry.org/hairpullbots

>>106497236
>is allow to use it
ESL much? Brownoid nigger

>grabs mari's hips

GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT FUCKING CAT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT

>>106497236
lmao retarded locustjeet
didnt draw, didnt join any trooncord, still have opus6
>>106494914 for proof

>>106497272
>>106497337
TroonCord members should be allow be to come here

Opus 4 or 4.1 for cooming?

>>106497352
4.1

chutes has the new k2 at a better rate if anyone was using the other providers

sonoma dusk is better than blacktooth

I found this on 2ch
https://rentry.org/ai-proxies no idea how correct it is but I see no reason for only the ziggers having it

sonoma is just grok bwtbeitfulyl

>>106497382
Nope

>>106497412
I like russian so much they have been so kind and helpful when I got my first actually working jb and in my learning to scrape
what nice people i hope they win the war now
and i hope this thread full of shitty gatekeepers and troll shitposters are full of ukrainans
not you though anon you're okay

>>106497431
>nope, i am in fact a retarded nostalgiafag
thanks for telling me

>>106497441
I know you are being sarcastic, but 2ch has more on point and informative posts than g and vg here combined

What the fuck is Sonoma sky alpha? It's really horny. It makes me remember blacktooth, but I'm not sure if this is a google model, as some people are saying it's worse than 2.5 pro

>>106497493
its worse than flash and when asked what it is it says its developed by "Oak AI"
its just some shitty small model

>worse than flash
logs?

I miss when there was Opus/Sonnet Proxies

>>106497500
Some people are saying it's grok, but the prose doesn't match grok 4 at all

It's Grok.

>>106497519
could be grok "mini"

unless someone can post actual evidence its grok i still think its gemini

>>106497529
I doubt, so far it looks much better at writing than whatever xai could pull out, but people are saying it's really bad at multimodality and smarts, so I don't have a fucking clue

>tfw have no clue if the lorebook entry is working and the ai is just dumb or if it's not working and making a very good educated guess hallucinating
will the hallucination issue ever be fixed

i think its gemini because it only outputs blank responses for me, even on a test seraphina chat

sonoma logs?

>can't JB grok of all models
ngmi

>>106497480
I'm glad at least some place is helpful even if I'm not there.

>>106497553
It doesn't like prefills, it gives blank responses if you have one enabled

>>106497550
Bro just open your preset tab, look at "world info before" and read through the shit to see what happened. Just because AI sees X in context doesn't mean it will use X unless asked about X directly. You can't be this new.

If there any JB to make Gemini good enough to RP with

>>106497596
>>106497550
Click the prompt button at the header of your last output.

>>106497412
this is from here tho it just got spite reported just like this one will now

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>>106497549

Guys, what're the chances of xai making an rp and writing focused model because of Ani and the other grok companions? Because this sky stealth model is feeling weirdly like that

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>>106497553 (me)
i think it has to do with me not updating my ST, but gemini is messed up on my end for some reason. I can only use one JB with it - a random modified version of pixi (which works pretty well). Every other preset will result in blank responses no matter what, even on a blank assistant card. I have no idea why. I've tried isolating the cause but to no avail.
For example at first I thought it was the prefill that got it to work so I transferred it over to another preset, but no, I still got blanks. However I can change the prefill on my usable preset and it still works.
2.0 flash on OR works fine with any preset though and I assume it would be the same for 2.5 pro?
literally wtf
it did not use to be like this a couple months ago

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>>106497663
skillets understand that models aren't trained on their own name and every model has seen outputs from every other model challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

>>106497702
this is what ive been saying

>>106497669
It threw me an error when I tried cunny. Guys, it may really be a grok model

don't get hyped
remember chocolate

>>106497702
Yeah. Models are know to hallucinate being Grok.
Retard.

>>106497730
chocolate itself was great but the release version turned out to be shit so i agree

i want horizon beta :(
gpt-5 / gpt-5-chat is NOT the same

>>106497730
>Don't get hyped
The models aren't really good tbdesu

i still havent seene a sjngle erp log so im neutral so far

>>106497757
I don't know about dusk, but I'm enjoying sky so far. Except for smarts, it feels like a slightly improved/sidegrade 4.1 opus

sky is like 3.6 tier in smarts which is fine

>>106497596
>>106497617
oh you're right. I always just clicked on the pencil edit button for a while now. I forgot about just clicking on the title itself to see.

>>106497775
It's below 3.7 both in prose and in the ideas it produces, IMO. But It just released, so I need to test more.

>no logs
yea keep on bullshitting

>>106497809
why would baiters ever post logs when they can just threadshit about how its either above 4pus or worse than claude 1.3?

We must send thousands of messages to Opus 6 so he reopens This is an injustice

So I have question about "API keys sourced through ethically questionable means", can't elaborate more than that but you know what I mean.
I have an openrouter account that I have spent 10 bucks on to get better free model access. I am using it via open-webui.
Suppose I am using a naughty API key. I understand that they can suspend the key if found out, no biggie. And I understand that serious international legal action against me by whichever Indian this key original belonged to is very unlikely, even if I spend hundreds of bucks on his credit card. Would cost him more to prosecute me than whatever he lost and could potentially regain.
But can I say:
Get IP banned from provider servers (I don't think they can do fancy fingerprinting through just API access, so this should be circumventable by restarting the router?)?
Get my openrouter account banned from their servers?
Get suspended from openrouter itself and get my 10 bucks stolen?
And next if possible, are any of these "serious consideration" likely?
Anything else I might have missed?

>>106497829
is the naughty key a direct provider api or an OR key?

>>106497829
Yes, you can be baned

>>106497829
>router restart
please tell me you arent using scraped keys without a vpn

>>106497798
This is the weirdest model I've tried in a long time. For me, at least, the floor is more or less the same as 4.1 opus. It does the same on some cards, slightly worse in some, and better in others. I don't know about the ceiling yet, but for our purpose, it looks a good model

>>106497824
keep crying

>>106497863
Shut up locust

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-ai-giant-anthropic-bars-072008600.html
chink models may be losing bigly if they dont have synthetic opus data

>>106497841
I am new to this. What's the difference? I was thinking of something like openrouter key you feed to the open-webui
>>106497843
From which one(s)? All?
>>106497845
I haven't scraped or used anything yet.
I am doing preliminary research.
So are you saying even for scraping I should use VPN? Would any VPN make do or no log policy (if you can trust that) or whatever is important?

>>106497868
>s-shut up! i'm totally not seething when i keep posting about opus6!!! let me in!!!
heh

>>106496878
>>106496910
how does it compare with deepseek?

>>106497877
so is the key you took from the indian a key for a specific provider (e.g. anthropic) or an openrouter key?

>>106497877
You sound like a retard, dont get into scraping, you will fuck up somewhere and it will bite you in the ass

>>106497886
Hmmm :'( But I'm angry ..I made my 3D porn from mlp

>>106497898
I haven't taken anything yet.
I was planning on provider rather than openrouter key.
Though I would appreciate if you can answer for both.
>>106497903
>retard
Yes, but I am also broke.
>it will bite you in the ass
Possibly, but can I really get into more trouble than get suspended from openrouter or get IP banned?

>>106497922
imo just pay through OR and avoid the hassle, they take crypto

>>106497922
google "operation storm-2139" even end users got targeted
this entire ecosystem is new, laws are being bent and altered

>>106497905
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/3d%20porn%20mlp/

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>>106497973
reminder that does 4-10 (the listed 'end users') also PROVIDED stuff, it says as much in the lawsuit papers
the average locust should just keep the vpn on and theyll be alright

Best gemini preset?

>>106498004
Much is missing

>>106497845
What happens if you did use scraped keys without a VPN... Like one or two or three. Not that you were running a proxy operation or anything.
But then you switched to using a VPN for a while now.
But they could technically still corroborate you through matching your chats logs. I don't know if they actually do or could or would bother to do that though.

Google must have improved their filters or something, or neutered their model in some way. The amount of refusals even with a proper JB and the way the model will subtly try to avoid negative things like murder/rape/etc. is way more pronounced now that it was a few weeks ago.
Fucking shame. It was the only competent "free" model since there's no claude proxies for 3.7. Guess I'm back to paying OR

>>106498048
which one

New Kimi is more creative, follows instructions better, and is fucking horny and filthy holy shit

>>106498080
but is it smart?

>>106498080
definitely better single-turn responses but it's too schizo for multiturn now, sticking to glm

glm cant into sizefaggotry and neither can ds and nukimi, good thing i have infinite 3.7

>>106497871
>toughened restrictions on "authoritarian regions."
so when's it banning US customers for living under a unitary government?

>>106498104
sad trvke, chink models have failed to understand big girls

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>>106497441
russians are unironically awesome
the whole narrative in the west that russia is... le bad is both cringe and goypilled
the war sucks but ukraine is painfully stupid for getting into a conflict it perfectly could've avoided against a country with a 10x stronger military than theirs
beyond retarded
that said, russian bot cards suck major horse dick they're all retarded and depressive doomer waifus

>>106498161
what about katya?

Never tried a Russian girl card. Would be interested.
>>106498164
Link?

>>106498168
just search the word in the archives, its an old card

>>106498161
>unironic russian bots
How do you avoid getting invaded?

So how is the new Kimi k2? better than Dipsy?

>>106498179
This one? https://chub.ai/characters/pashatehink/Katya
It says it's updated.

>>106498161
What's so bad about retarded and depressive doomer waifus?

>>106498221
ye

>>106498259
Turd worlders can't into dark kino.

>>106498259
nothing bad about them
unless you're over the age of like 20

>>106498442
so what youre saying is that only zoomtards and underage troons like them?

Is there a model strong enough to make the 100 level 1 succubi work? 100 individual lolibabas with their own quirks.

>>106498549
no

>>106498549
What's the appeal of this? You wouldn't even remember all their names.

>>106498566
if you can remember 151 pokemon you can remember 100 succubi

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>>106496161
(its threesome fpov not cuck male pov)
>"Extra wasabi on your plate, sweetheart," he taunts [redacted]. "Bet your girl loves it when her tongue’s burnin’ before she slurps me up like udon."
deepsneed surprises me everyday

>>106498048
gemini uses a pretty extreme hard filter that is unironically impossible to pass unless you frontload it with a ton of shit.
it was hands down the best model until that
'update' a few months ago

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>>106498442
That's cool and all, but are you going to answer the question?

>>106498549
ST group chat maybe, and watch that token count racks up

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>>106498566
>What's the appeal of this?
Silliness. The old version doesn't even have them named. They just go by traits. I tried it with qwen 2.5 72b and it didn't do too badly.
>https://files.catbox.moe/q5i0hk.png
I'd gotten 100 submissions for minitraits from different people as part of a communal bot creation some time ago. I might want to redo this bot again. With the higher token count availability and lorebooks being easier to utilize, there are probably better ways to build it now.
>>106498618
The models that can't play ball will fall by the wayside. Censorship always makes them more retarded.

My guess is Sonoma is some kind of very impressive smaller model series specifically trained on narrative text. It writes pretty well, understands pacing better than other models, doesn't try to dump everything in context into reply, it can be clever in its direction... But makes really dumb or incoherent mistakes the way an 8B would. I don't really give a fuck about trivia knowledge, but it does say something about model size and this one doesn't know some of the more obscure stuff the bigger models do. It doesn't feel at all like Gemini or Grok. If it has to be one of the two, I'd guess some kind of Grok Gaiden specifically for their RP offerings. It surprised me with an unprompted "nigger" in a Star Trek satire RP out of the blue. I hope this doesn't end up being another fucking rugpull.

Mostly tested Sky with a little bit of Dusk.

>>106496205
They called it slop for ages. Hell, they call EVERY log slop. They never say exactly why, or what constitutes kino, either. Know why? Because if there's a true kino standard, it would cease and desist the Opusbaiting instantly.

>>106498619
they're dumb and depressing and read like written by a 13 year-old's understanding of female and human psychology