lmfao aijeets in shambles
It'll eventually reach human baseline?
>>106508071The human brain also does all it does on an estimated 20 watts of power.https://www.nist.gov/blogs/taking-measure/brain-inspired-computing-can-help-us-create-faster-more-energy-efficient
Sample from the benchmark>This is what AI struggles withYeah we're safe for another 100 yearsIt's over
A few months ago you guys were all going on and on about how zoomers can't tell time on an analog clock
>>1065081302080 Ti is still serviceable @ 1440p, it's a bit worse than a 5060 Ti 16GB or 9060 XT 16GB.https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-2080-ti.c3305
>>106508119holy shit no waylol, lmao
>>106508071>AI is basically a zoomerkek
>not trained for reading clocks>makes a test specifically for reading clocks>wow it doesn't perform wellIt's impressive how people still to understand how LLMs work
>>106508071The "imaging" parts of multimodal models is just a different model it calls on, which then transcribes into text what it sees. So it's not Gemini 2.5 pro seeing the image, but calling up on a image analysis function which then analyzes the image and reports back in text form to gemini. None of this tests the actual intelligence of the model, just how capable the image processing submodel is.
>>106508071What is this even supposed to prove? What jobs are based around reading analog clocks?
>>106508119Isn't this the same test psychologists use to determine if someone is mentally sound or not?
>>106508223>What jobs are based around reading analog clocks?Any job that requires an IQ higher than 70.
>>106508119>yfw every model from now on will be finetuned for this crap until another retarded test comes out from people who know nothing about what they are doing
>>106508119Call me retarded but this one was hard
>>10650827410:08 flipped is the easy part but that Fri (only part I cheated) looks like a fucked up F + upside down 4
>>106508088They're using an indian as a basline so it already is well past that.
>>106508283(I didn't look at any of the other pics which would've hinted at this)
now they're gonna train models to read clocks or whatever alongside coooding and assistantslopping great
>>106508283>>106508274I really hope you are baiting
>>106508119I have dyscalculia so all of these are extremely difficult for me to read, ironically with exception being the 24hr clock with minutes
>>106508303you are not human.
>>106508303dysIdon'tgiveafuck You are just retarded
>>106508311What do you mean—I'm just as human as you are.>>106508319I know :(
>>106508119So, you are saying the best captcha would be an analogue clock?
>>106508248You know despite the stereotypes this reminds me that I've never once seen an actual yellow Asian in my lifeBrown Asians? Sure, but yellow? Where the fuck are those guys supposed to be?
>>106508303i guess you can't reason, that really sucks man
>>106508248Why the fuck is the average IQ in Italy so high
>>106508333Don't give them ideas
>>106508354marinara sauce keeps the brain workin' good
wait until you discovered Cock Benchcourtesy of >>>/g/lmg/
>>106508119>09:38/21:38>07:51/19:51>20:16>01:00/13:00>10:44/22:44>gay O' cock>06:25/18:25>10:08/22:08So-o... how did I do fellow humans?
>>106508334Really??
>>106508354Tons of olive oilFor Asians it's because their diet is 90% fish based.
>>106508401Bait?
>>106508119why do computers and watches (digital) and phones all use 24h format (possible to set) but most analog wall/desk clocks come in 12h format? there's zero use for repeating 12h group outside of some very specialized applications maybe.
>>106508428You can get 24h analogs
>>106508426tests are spooky, I get nervous when I take my fellow human
>>106508448This should be turned into a prove that you are a human test
>>106508426I meant take them, not take fellow human skin, human not take skin from other human, haha silly.
>>10650842824-hour clocks require taller clock towers for the counterweight, also requires higher precision for the gearing ratioeasier and cheaper to just let the system roll over at 12h instead of 24h, especially since measuring time in two blocks of 12h was a carryover from ancient horology
>>106508500those all seem like old constraints which aren't an issue today. the whole "AM or PM?" confusion is surely wasting a lot of human time so humanity would benefit from doing away with it. asking "AM or PM?" must be one of the shitties time wastes out of all you're better off blanking out than wasting energy powering your neurons to utter those words
When I was a kid (maybe I had a flip phone? but wasn't on me immediately) we had this long distance trip for the school band. It was winter so it was pretty dark both in morning and evening, so when I woke up I freaked the fuck out thinking I might've missed the bus by many hours. I don't remember the times.
>>106508333:O
>>106508531yea nowadays it's irrelevant, 99.9% of the clocks being bought today are just quartz oscillator based anyway even if they're "analog"it's just one of those things that because it used to make sense, we keep doing it. like imperial measurements in the US, or driving on the left in the UK so you could more easily draw your sword on someone who rolled up on you (since most people are right handed)fuck AM/PM, and fuck time zones, and fuck daylight savings, be the change you want to see in the world and switch all the clocks in your house to ISO-8601
>>106508576global time would be so fucking based. I would be clearly needs to be supported by like...everyone
>>106508588>globalmore like universal time, a clock you can reference at any point in space
>>106508616that's a major issue 200km up let alone other parts. what time are you keeping exactly? yours or "theirs"?
It's crazy to me that companies are using acres of datacenter space so that dipshits can ask instances of the same models to write their essays for them. Why haven't we cracked realtime learning? Why are they still using tokens? A graphics card is somehow still king while every "npu" so far is a joke? It's like they're not even trying.
>>106508333Like half the humans out there can't read an analog clock either.
>>106508623as in you can only track time at relatively the same gravitational well depth (earth's surface), the rest drifts
>>106508616>universal timeWho's gonna tell him?
>>106508632>Like half the humans out there can't read an analog clock either.Sound like a win to me. We will have less retards spamming /g/ that way.
>>106508636this guy doesn't know about TCB, everyone point and laugh
>>106508071Go gives a fuck about analogue clocks? Okay so humans perform better at reading a clock, let's ignore everything it's far better at then.
>>106508664my wording was wrong, you can track any time but we're back to the same problem, different times for different places, which is literally irrelevant on the surface of the planet. we're all in sync here since we're all at same gravitational depth, on the surface of the planet.
>>106508071ai people are dumbbut people who lap up these dumb vanity projects where its basically just strawmaning are not good
>>106508636can't we just use gravity to calibrate that? like add a gravity sensor to the clock and use that to adjust and eliminate uncertainties?say someone in space looks at the clock it will look like it's ticking a bit fast, but someone using the same clock on earth will see it ticking at insane speeds or something.
>>106508223pickupartist_or_kebab 21:30 at railway station 01:30 at bar
>>106508226>at least 10% of the human population is psychologically incompetenti honestly expected a higher number
>>106508731They probably conducted the survey on some high end college campus or something and scaled the number, so you yeah you might not be wrong.
>>106508691its not about the clockits the fact that AI DOES NOT REASON. It cannot solve problems based on what it already "knows". It doesn't actually "know" anything. AI is flawed from the foundation.
>>106508717that's what GPS satellites do but you're back to the initial problem, keeping different times for different places. my point was that is actually required for everywhere BUT the surface of the planet. since all our clocks tick at the same rate here.
>qwen 72B is better than most western slopgrim
>>106508248>Argentina is whiteBased>>106508412Maybe Mussolini was unto something...>>106508576>fuck daylight savings>tfw my country only recently discarded it after almost 3 decades of use
>>106508248iNIGGERS BTFO
>>106508071>>106508119They shouldn'd disclose the test, now the will be benchmaxxed to tell an analogue clock
>>106508401>>20:16anon, i...
>>106508226there is. but it's the opposite. you're told to draw a clockface that shows a specific time. people with e.g. alzheimers struggle with it.
>>106508283>Frithat's the easiest part
>>106508333captchas don't work, google admitted it on youtube by "you must login so we know you aren't a bot"
>>106508354Italy gets a bad reputation because of all the retarded gabagool diaspora from the south (if you're American, imagine if all everyone saw of your country were barely-literate rednecks from alabama), which is essentially a different country from the north (everything in-between is kind of a gradual transition between the two), but the northerners aren't very different from the more "respected" Europeans.These differences are mostly cultural I think, but there's definitely a genetic component as well.This cultural/genetic diversity means that depending on where the data comes from, you can get pretty different results.
>>106510057Yeah mt mistake, I thought it was being told to draw an analog clock with the mentioned time, not the other way around.
>>106510072It is if I zoom in at 200% and see that it the "ri" part was in fact not a single glyph.
Not surprised by this news.
draw the gock
>>106508186Exactly. We just need more training data and 500 billion dollars then agi can be achieved in the next two weeks
>>106510113are you on a phone or some shit?the pic is huge
>>106508071Ok but for 99.9999% of jobs AI will do it can use a digital timing sourceFor recognising time on images it will be much more efficient on digital clocks as it will recognise numbers like 23:59 easily.What’s the takeaway from this? The niche case of identifying the time on a clock from an image is currently hard?If anything it’s becoming a reach to find any analysis that AI is not incredibly good at.
https://clockbench.ai/ClockBench.pdf
>>106510422I lost the thread already but OP said something about doing a clock reader as a side project then some random guy from a Korean factory asked for support on how to run the thing; for the purpose of reading analogue gauges instead of clocks. Another user commented he stuck a cardboard dial on a wall and had the camera read it to change spotify volume.
>>106508071>>106508119>89.1What the fuck? This is world news material.Surely there has to be some kind of selection bias, no?Maybe they asked kids, or third-worlders or something.An average error rate of 10% is way too high for a normal adult, even with the flipped and unusual examples in the picture.
>>106508071show zoomer baseline
>>106508274I'm pretty sure it's just 1:52 and the mirror is just a texture.
>>106508448The minutes are a slight pain in the ass though.
>>106510496kek?i posted a screenshot of it earlier did u actually read that thread too or did u read my thumbnailfunny>>106508703
>>106508119most zoomers can't even read analog clocks
>>106508071AI's main usecase it to be a tool for fulfilling my fantasies, that's it>>106508398the only bench that matters here
>>106509455did you get confused or something?the brown countries use Android
>>106508089The human brain is doing a million other things at the same time. The extra power used to tell time is insignificant.
>>106508071Zoomers can't read the analog clock either. Let this sink in for a minute.
>>106508071Analog clocks are obsolete. AI has no need to read them. This benchmark is just anti-AI propaganda. AI is the future. AI will replace this man and it will replace you.
>>106512745shit, I might've actually just read your pic then remembered it hours later when it came to replying, I was wondering why I couldn't find it in my browser history
>>106513792zoomers dont know typically because they were never exposed to them, of course you arent going to understand something you have never seen before. But unlike AI, the zoomer can easily learn how it works once you teach them, even the roman numerals. All on 20 watts of power vs the 10000x more power required from LLMs
>>106508703>>106515043i decided to look it up to see what the original thread was about>Ask HN: What's the most creative 'useless' program you've ever written?https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41894765
>>106508186I thought we had AGI though? Does it need to be trained for months on every single little thing? Oh right, AGI is coming in two more weeks. My bad.
>>106508357Filters zoomers too
These AIs already beat most black people
>>106515813It's already taking art trannies jobs so thats pretty impressive I think
>89.1%did they control for black "humans"
Hmm
