California Linux-killer age verification bill back from the dead. It looked like it was dead for the year (sent to suspense file), but it came back and advanced.https://legiscan.com/CA/text/AB1043/2025Summary:- Operating systems must provide a digital age signal, and must provide an update that acquires the age signal in the first place.- "Stores" (including just simple websites) must check this signal.- "Developers" (not stores, but the app developers themselves, somehow) must also check this signal. This part is particularly baffling, but makes sense if you think about it from the retard lawmakers perspective "facebook is an APP, meta needs to check your age before you use it!"- None of this is predicated on any sort of "adults-only" app or content. It's everything.- It specifies no specific standard so you can be sure tech companies will push for some kind of "environment integrity" bullshit that Linux can't provide.So like, somehow the developers of vim need to check your age before you can install it from apt. And if they push hard enough on the "secure" part of it, they could just say "Linux is not secure and can't be trusted to supply a valid signal."
>>106508167Literally not enforceable.Stop spamming these garbage doom threads.Also there's nothing that would prevent Linux from adopting this, not that it matters since it makes no sense and is not enforceable.
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>>106508213It is 100% enforceable. Websites or "stores" can just lock you out if they don't get a valid signal. They'd be obligated to, by law.The thing that could prevent Linux from implementing this is the whole "environment integrity" bit if they push for it. It would be easy for them to just say "Linux is modifiable by the user and therefore cannot be considered a trusted envionment. You can just lie about your age." It will be pushed as a component of full Digital ID, which absolutely -will- require a "trusted" environment. I doubt the legislators are aware of this, but you can be sure Microsoft, Google, etc will jump at the opportunity to rope more people into walled gardens.
>>106508215Same bill in Michigan and Illinois this year. Illinois tabled it. Still live in Michigan. It's a nationwide push. And if it lands in California, that's what'll set it off everywhere because all the tech companies are based there.
>>106508256if anything it's a reason to stand against it and get trillions in tech deals. Cali is about shooting itself in the foot and progressively shooting themselves higher and higher until they shoot their own head
>>106508167Pedophile politicians pretending to care about children are so annoying...>Operating systems must provide an update that...I use Windows 7 and Android 4.4, I dare Microsoft and Google to update these. Even if they did, I never update anything anyway.
>>106508290>if anything it's a reason to stand against it and get trillions in tech deals.I don't follow. What "deals"?
>>106508295Right. And without the signal you won't be able to download anything. That's where this is going.
>>106508296corpo hush money in exchange for setting up shop in the state
good reminder to get some clean isos of everything
>>106508167What's the end game for all this surveillance? Like genuinely? Literally what part of current day society is so horrible and dangerous to politicians that they need this level of control? There is no massive unrest, all protest peter out with little effect, there are no violent insurrections or revolutions(in the west). What the fuck are all governments suddenly preparing for?
>>106508306Still don't follow. Why would the be getting "hush money" to move into the state that is trying to pass the law they are standing against?They're not standing against it, by the way, is already has buyin from Microsoft and others.
>>106508302Time to start data hoarding then.Make a gentoo distfile mirror and update it until it requires the age signal.Then fully disconnect from the internet. Host your own DNS root servers, have your own private network with everything you care about.Maintain the packages yourself. If you don't know C then learn it. Fix the bugs you care about. Perhaps share your patches with others, maybe on USB drives, maybe by connecting your network to other people's.
>>106508325One interpreation of this particular bill is less insidious. This could just be California saying- red states are requiring ID. This is an invasion of privacy!- so we'll be smart and only require a simple age signal. And we'll make it mandatory on all operating systems so no website can force people to do anything else.- aren't we clever and not dummies like red states.Of course, by doing this, if it goes too far, they end up killing Linux and doing far, far more damage to privacy. So, this could just be retards fucking things up for the rest of us.
>>106508350no it just means the mutt slaves wont be able to make itunes appstore accounts without id and everyone else will just keep using .exe files like they always did
>>106508735And where will you get the .exes if you can't download them from the website because you're not providing the signal they are by-law obligated to ask for? The law applies to everything, including generic websites, not just full blown corp app stores.
>>106508167since when adult used computer other than work or selfcare google assumes that you bydefault are underage or childminded
>>106508735>>106508766using exe's is dumb because you can't change the software once you have it, if it ever disappears. that's why you always have a source backup you can modify and compile yourself.
>>106508766idk... like everywhere on the internet? lol
>>106508779So you're retarded then.
>>106508797no it just doesn't affect me you are completely delusional if you think amerimutts will make it illegal to send exe files over http
>>106508325It's preparation for when AI takes the jobs and some level of order needs to be maintained. The current administration ignoring the Constitution is just normalizing the actions that will be taken to keep the populace in line.>sauceOur vice president is owned by a guy who thinks the world should be made up of city-states run by megacorps.
>>106508821If you think this will stay in California or the US you're crazy. Europe will adopt this shit in a second.
>>106508833One of the big points here is that it says nothing about a specific standard. Which means it will need to be standardized. Which the corporations will do and which the EU will cream themselves over to be a part of.
>>106508167>archlinux-2025.08-livecd.iso>archinstall>please scan this qrcode on your phone and proceed with identity and age verification before proceedinggrim
>>106508920In practice, I think what will happen is for a few years, Linux repos (and distros) and non-US websites will just sort of ignore things, hoping they don't get targeted. The penalties are just fines. But it's like everything else, they will slowly coil things tighter. Maybe 3 years of buffer after this passes?
>>106508247Those stores can suck my dick and won't get my money, Jesus who the fuck cares stop coming up with your own nightmares nigga
>>106508962Are you not capable of reading English? It's not just stores. It's ANY FUCKING WEBSITE WHERE YOU CAN DOWNLOAD APPLICATIONS. Right there in the bill. "(e) (1) “Covered application store” means a publicly available internet website, software application, online service, or platform that distributes and facilitates the download of applications from third-party developers to users of a computer, a mobile device, or any other general purpose computing device. that can access a covered application store or can download an application."
>>106508974Then they will suck my dick and lose my money is what you're saying?
>>106508974just use non cucked services which aren't hosted in cuckifornia and aren't subject to their jurisdiction
>>106508995What I'm saying is, you won't be able to get anything from anywhere unless you're using an "approved" OS that sends a cryptographically secure signal backed by a chain of trust to the hardware level. It's not very hard to understand.
>>106508213>stop noticing and talking about things goyfuck off
