>>106508167
Literally not enforceable.
Stop spamming these garbage doom threads.
Also there's nothing that would prevent Linux from adopting this, not that it matters since it makes no sense and is not enforceable.

>California

>>106508213
It is 100% enforceable. Websites or "stores" can just lock you out if they don't get a valid signal. They'd be obligated to, by law.

The thing that could prevent Linux from implementing this is the whole "environment integrity" bit if they push for it. It would be easy for them to just say "Linux is modifiable by the user and therefore cannot be considered a trusted envionment. You can just lie about your age."

It will be pushed as a component of full Digital ID, which absolutely -will- require a "trusted" environment. I doubt the legislators are aware of this, but you can be sure Microsoft, Google, etc will jump at the opportunity to rope more people into walled gardens.

>>106508215
Same bill in Michigan and Illinois this year. Illinois tabled it. Still live in Michigan. It's a nationwide push. And if it lands in California, that's what'll set it off everywhere because all the tech companies are based there.

>>106508256
if anything it's a reason to stand against it and get trillions in tech deals. Cali is about shooting itself in the foot and progressively shooting themselves higher and higher until they shoot their own head

>>106508167
Pedophile politicians pretending to care about children are so annoying...
>Operating systems must provide an update that...
I use Windows 7 and Android 4.4, I dare Microsoft and Google to update these. Even if they did, I never update anything anyway.

>>106508290
>if anything it's a reason to stand against it and get trillions in tech deals.

I don't follow. What "deals"?

>>106508295
Right. And without the signal you won't be able to download anything. That's where this is going.

>>106508296
corpo hush money in exchange for setting up shop in the state

good reminder to get some clean isos of everything

>>106508167
What's the end game for all this surveillance? Like genuinely? Literally what part of current day society is so horrible and dangerous to politicians that they need this level of control? There is no massive unrest, all protest peter out with little effect, there are no violent insurrections or revolutions(in the west). What the fuck are all governments suddenly preparing for?

>>106508306
Still don't follow. Why would the be getting "hush money" to move into the state that is trying to pass the law they are standing against?

They're not standing against it, by the way, is already has buyin from Microsoft and others.

>>106508302
Time to start data hoarding then.
Make a gentoo distfile mirror and update it until it requires the age signal.
Then fully disconnect from the internet. Host your own DNS root servers, have your own private network with everything you care about.
Maintain the packages yourself. If you don't know C then learn it. Fix the bugs you care about. Perhaps share your patches with others, maybe on USB drives, maybe by connecting your network to other people's.

>>106508325
One interpreation of this particular bill is less insidious. This could just be California saying
- red states are requiring ID. This is an invasion of privacy!
- so we'll be smart and only require a simple age signal. And we'll make it mandatory on all operating systems so no website can force people to do anything else.
- aren't we clever and not dummies like red states.

Of course, by doing this, if it goes too far, they end up killing Linux and doing far, far more damage to privacy. So, this could just be retards fucking things up for the rest of us.

>>106508350
no it just means the mutt slaves wont be able to make itunes appstore accounts without id and everyone else will just keep using .exe files like they always did

>>106508735
And where will you get the .exes if you can't download them from the website because you're not providing the signal they are by-law obligated to ask for? The law applies to everything, including generic websites, not just full blown corp app stores.

>>106508167

since when adult used computer other than work or selfcare google assumes that you bydefault are underage or childminded

>>106508735
>>106508766
using exe's is dumb because you can't change the software once you have it, if it ever disappears. that's why you always have a source backup you can modify and compile yourself.

>>106508766
idk... like everywhere on the internet? lol

>>106508779
So you're retarded then.

>>106508797
no it just doesn't affect me you are completely delusional if you think amerimutts will make it illegal to send exe files over http

>>106508325
It's preparation for when AI takes the jobs and some level of order needs to be maintained. The current administration ignoring the Constitution is just normalizing the actions that will be taken to keep the populace in line.
>sauce
Our vice president is owned by a guy who thinks the world should be made up of city-states run by megacorps.

>>106508821
If you think this will stay in California or the US you're crazy. Europe will adopt this shit in a second.

>>106508833
One of the big points here is that it says nothing about a specific standard. Which means it will need to be standardized. Which the corporations will do and which the EU will cream themselves over to be a part of.

>>106508167
>archlinux-2025.08-livecd.iso
>archinstall
>please scan this qrcode on your phone and proceed with identity and age verification before proceeding
grim

>>106508920
In practice, I think what will happen is for a few years, Linux repos (and distros) and non-US websites will just sort of ignore things, hoping they don't get targeted. The penalties are just fines. But it's like everything else, they will slowly coil things tighter. Maybe 3 years of buffer after this passes?

>>106508247
Those stores can suck my dick and won't get my money, Jesus who the fuck cares stop coming up with your own nightmares nigga

>>106508962
Are you not capable of reading English? It's not just stores. It's ANY FUCKING WEBSITE WHERE YOU CAN DOWNLOAD APPLICATIONS. Right there in the bill.

"(e) (1) “Covered application store” means a publicly available internet website, software application, online service, or platform that distributes and facilitates the download of applications from third-party developers to users of a computer, a mobile device, or any other general purpose computing device. that can access a covered application store or can download an application."

>>106508974
Then they will suck my dick and lose my money is what you're saying?

>>106508974
just use non cucked services which aren't hosted in cuckifornia and aren't subject to their jurisdiction

>>106508995
What I'm saying is, you won't be able to get anything from anywhere unless you're using an "approved" OS that sends a cryptographically secure signal backed by a chain of trust to the hardware level. It's not very hard to understand.

>>106508213
>stop noticing and talking about things goy
fuck off

>>106508974
>buying apps from store
I use mostly portableapps in windows and that bullshit won't come package manager to linux. It doesn't make sense. Are you retarded?

>>106508247
>>106508974
It's not enforceable. All you have to do is say "fuck off commie" and they will slink away.

And what exactly is the actual problem here?

Kids need to spend more time outside, doing real shit, that's just fact. And when they ARE accessing the net, they should indeed NOT be able to access adult services, or services with age rating higher than their own age.

This is a good thing.

>>106510894
>What’s the problem with glorious leader taking over every television channel?
>North Korean kids need to go outside more anyways!

>>106510894
I'm not the kids fucking parents so it's not my problem nor my responsibility to make sure the kids are being raised so stop putting the burden on me you dumb selfish cunt. If your answer to a problem isn't "make the people directly responsible deal with it" or is some variation of "make unrelated people pay a cost" then go play in traffic with those kids.

>>106508167
>it will soon become illegal to use your own computer in your own home without doxxing yourself
Total politician death
Seriously who the fuck thinks any of this is a good idea?

>>106511343
Are you against child safety, anon?

>>106511370
Genuinely tell me what's stopping a child from using his parents' ID for his machine or just using his parents' machine. Don't tell me they're going to use realtime AI facescan at all times while using your computer "to make sure the ID matches the user's actual appearance"?

>>106511426
You're right, computers should be mandated to scan the anus and genitalia of people who try and use it every 5 minutes. Are you against child safety? The expectation that a parent could use existing restricted devices designed specifically for parents just is impractical

>>106508167
Just don't comply. What's California gonna do?

>>106511370
children shouldn't have access to the internet nor smartphones
if a child want something they should ask the parents for it
they should decide whether it's right to give it to them or not
it's sole responsibility of the parents what they allow their kids to do and see

>>106508995
Does having an IQ under 90 give you problems on a day to day basis?

>>106511452
Just set a login password. Don't let your kids connect their shit to the internet. Or set up a porn filter on the router. Actually teach them how to avoid getting hurt online. Don't give them smartphones until high school, at the absolute least.
Any system you put in place to "protect kids" can be entirely negated by neglectful or ignorant parenting. If you are a parent in the 21st century it ought to be mandatory to attend seminars on how to protect your own children, rather than offloading it onto the state, who will gladly sell your children as sex slaves and then enslave you "to protect them."

>>106511490
Parents cannot expected to be taking care of their children, the state MUST turn the country into an open air prison to protect them. Being against this is being for child abuse.

>>106511490
Agreed.
This is what should be made into law.
And if a minor ends up getting hurt because the parents allowed them unsupervised access to the internet, they should be held responsible

>>106513732
That's what a lawmaker trying to protect the people's interests would do. But sadly, most of them are taking bribes from FAGMAN and the WEF, so they are using child safety as an argument to push mass surveillance.
>>106511490
>Or set up a porn filter on the router.
Yeah, they could just require ISPs to provide a second DNS resolver that blocks porn, and that way, parents could put their children's devices in a VLAN with a separate DHCP server that advertises the porn-blocking DNS while the parent's devices would stay in the main VLAN with the normal DNS. They could even require ISP routers to have an idiot-proof UI to do it.

>>106508167
Nothingburger bill. If any of you actually read this bill you'd realize that you don't have to identify yourself at all and just need to enter a DOB when creating an account. This will change basically nothing if you have control over account creation.
It's actually less invasive for companies to just ask the OS if you're in a certain age range than making you send your ID to each of them.

>>106513910
You have not understood the thread. The point here is that they have specified no standard. Therefore, the standard will be created by corporations. Therefore the standard will involve chain-of-trust down to the TPM level. Therefore, "insecure" systems like Linux will not be viable. Therefore Linux will not be able to download anything from anywhere, as all websites, "stores" or any place/platform that serves up applications (including things like apt, the AUR, etc) will be obligated by law to require a valid signal. It is not mandated only in the case of adult themes. It is mandated ALWAYS, for any application download, at the OS level.

The "it's less invasive" angle doesn't hold up once you realize it means you will be forced to use walled garden surveillance operating systems controlled by 3 corporations forever.

>>106514922
Growing pains of a civilized society, sorry.

>>106508167
This is a blatant First Amendment violation, unless all information is considered to be covered by obscenity laws now? Do I need to request proof of ID before I speak to anyone in public, too? I don't see this surviving in its current form.

>>106515121
> the only way we can be civilized is to be monitored by indians at all times.

Looks like CD-roms are back

>>106509010
Oh no I'll be rejected at the store when I pay in cash? Who the fuck pays things for online? Faggots? Anyways. Who the fuck cares. If you're so worried about being a normie than go be one.>>106509010

>>106515471
Not "things" retard. Software. Anything that runs on any device you have. And not just things you pay for. ALL software will be gated this way.

>>106515452
I've installed a DVD-writer in every computer I've built up from the time they became available to the present. Finally it's my time to shine.

>>106515532
>No you don't get it, the easiest thing to steal ever, will blah blah boogey man
First time?

>>106515452
I've been archiving for years

>>106515157
look at the SCOTUS bro, the writing is on the wall

>>106514922
I'm not downloading applications I'm downloading source code