>After almost five decades on air, the future of satellite TV remains uncertain beyond 2029 with broadcasters reluctant to commit to the platform for longer.A decision needs to be made within the next two years if satellite TV services from Sky and/or Freesat will continue. That’s because the current fleet of satellites are reaching their end of life dates and any replacement satellite needs to be commissioned at least three years in advance.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KKmGGh1AxM
satellite>rarely interrupted unless really bad weather>doesn't use bandwidth, can hook up multiple tvs to one dish>costly to put in space but maintenance costs could be shared across multiple countries>millions of people can access it if they can see the sky, very good for remote regions>capable of good quality 4K video (they had free test channels on astra satellite a few years ago)internet tv>connection goes down>can buffer under demand, especially with multiple 4K videos being played in the house>requires fibre optic cables everywhere, which is not always practical in remote areas>may be worse for the environment (servers use up a lot of electricity, water)Why are we getting rid of good technology?
>>106513702Somebody wants more control.
>>106513702This is probably more about a decision to launch dedicated satellites for video as opposed to serving with existing internet satellites or even cellular where it makes sense.
>>106513702What if I use satellite internet for my internet TV?
>>106513702They don't want to pay for satellites. Streaming means they make more money for less work. They can also fire all of their engineers which they've been doing.
>>106513702Control the population
>>106513702>>requires fibre optic cables everywhere, which is not always practical in remote areasit's funny that we have all of this niggerlicious "technology" but it (and our fake and gay economic system) still can't make it affordable to dig a 2 foot deep hole for fiber optic cables.
>>106513889Recursion until you seg fault.
>>106513702There's more money in internet tv. Satellite only makes sense if you care about serving customers. When you look at the bottom line internet tv just makes more sense.
>>106513731jews>>106513891again, jews don't want to maintain infrastructure, they only want to collect profits>>106514011Empire of Dust, featuring your local ISP
>>106513702>rarely interrupted unless really bad weatherDunno about your definition of really bad but it always dropped out whenever a snowstorm or thunderstorm rolled throughMuch of winter and spring had regular dropouts here
>>106514113There is more satellite infrastructure now then there ever has been, there is going to be even more as companies make LEO constellations.TV sats dont make much sense when internet sats are becoming more and more available.Same type of shit happened when when ISPs where deciding to upkeep pots or just integrate it into fiber installs. POTS was otherwise trivial to integrate so that's where they went.
>>106513702Fiber optical cables are no longer needed to provide good internet to rural areas, satellite internet has gotten good enough to handle those customers just fine. That's the real reason why dedicated TV broadcast satellites will probably end up being phased out; most of their potential customers would rather just have satellite internet & the streaming services of their choice, the whole broadcasting model is not something most TV watchers like, its just something they put up with in the past due to technical limitations.
>>106513731>>106513991The switch from people using satellite tv to satellite internet services to aquire videos means less centralized control over people, not more. With satellite TV the satellite company has full control over what channels are being broadcasted and can easily just not carry stuff they don't approve of. People using satellite internet as their ISP can watch videos from whatever streaming service they desire, or download stuff off the high seas, and use VPNs to mask a lot of what they are doing from the ISP.
>>106513702>costly to put in spaceNTA but...surely a couple of satellites can't be more expensive than the bandwidth required to serve millions of video streams over the internet???this is something I really don't get, bandwidth is the #1 expense of video streaming platforms and they will do anything possible to reduce the amount of bitrate required (e.g. putting in money to develop more efficient codecs like cuckflix, jewgle and a bunch of other big corpos did with av1), shouldn't satellite internet be cheaper? the cost of the satellite is fixed, while bandwidth goes up in price the more users you have, how is pushing people to internet streaming a good long term strategy to reduce costs?
>>106514844>shouldn't satellite internet be cheaper?*meant satellite television
>>106513702>Why are we getting rid of good technology?technology is only a means to get money, sadly
>>106513600good riddance to Boomer and Gen X cancer trash. Fuck off and never come back
One fucking satellite can potentially provide 2 continents with tv footage. They only limit the beams because of copyright issues
>>106514844There are more considerations beyond the cost of the satellite.You require people to operate the satellite, those are recurring costs over the lifetime of the satellite along with any administrative costs that stem from having those people employed.Bandwidth in general has gotten cheaper over time. At some point there may be an intersection where the cost to operate and the amortized cost of the satellite itself intersect with the cost of just buying bandwidth from an internet sat provider and running an internet service.It's possible that intersection may be closer than you'd think as internet satellite providers in general are struggling with consumers and other end users. They might welcome the pivot to other businesses using them as a dumb pipe to carry their video services.
>>106513702satellite sucks you dishonest faggot
>>106515288What's stopping hypothetical Don'tGiveAFuckistan with it's own resources an space program that isn't self isolated an heavily sanctioned like North Korea economically from beaming said content down with or without the rights holders permission anyway? Is Warner Bros gonna start shooting anti satellite missiles out in space as retaliation?
>>106515402>Is Warner Bros gonna start shooting anti satellite missiles out in space as retaliation?Probably. Also countries that are out of reach for the western authorities tend to not have space programs. Except Russia i guess. I'm actually surprised they aren't flooding Europe with free sports and propaganda mixed in
>>106513600>sky>freesatcringe> That’s because the current fleet of satellites are reaching their end of life dates and any replacement satellite needs to be commissioned at least three years in advance.nobody gives a fuck. it's sky. >wow! it's clickbaiting cancer from some jewtubershocking. truly shocking.>>106513702chad post
>>106515424>I'm actually surprised they aren't flooding Europe with free sports and propaganda mixed inMaybe it's a Pandora's box thing and Russia doesn't want to open it because they it will in turn be used against them too.
>>106513702Don't worry skynet will come soon and you'll be begging for it to disconnect
>>106513702Very antisemitic postYou can extract more profit from the goycattle by having them pay several subscription services, which will be served via internet, than traditional satellite TV, gentile.
>>106516740The west already did that shit for decades, all these Radio Free Someshit are literal CIA fronts
>>106513702Because idiots buy streaming services.It's no wonder TV is going. It's use is being used less as Boomers are told by their cordcutting kids to get streaming for on-demand programming instead of TV channel flipping.Why do you think all these streaming services are raising prices?
>>106513600Cable in general is dying. It's just not tenable with the high costs broadcasters consistently charge service providers.And honestly thank god. Cable tv's lineup is god awful.
>>106516914Broadcasters WANT people to go to streaming because they get more profit from it. It's why they keep raising costs on cable providers.t. works at utility company soon to cancel their cable.
"Live" streaming TV is awful. I hear my neighbours with sky q cheer a minute before this fucking streaming shit shows the goals.
i'll be glad to see the death of those ugly dishes on every british house>>106513702people prefer to watch on-demand, retard
F2A will always exist, it's paid for by the BBG. It's like 1100 channels now. I have a DirecTV antenna that is pointed at a sat with so many channels that it'd blow your mind. You can actually get them from a github, I think it's f2a tv or something.
>>106517800Is there anything actually worth watching on those 1100 channels? Personally I would rather just download any show or movie I want to watch rather than being stuck on some else's schedule.
>>106518161Yes, like 120 nations official state news, CNN, all kinds of things. I like Kev Goom Siab(?) some kinda channel that broadcases tears of the dragon with subtitles.
>>106518161Being on someone else's schedule hits different. I watch shit I never would because the freedom of choice has been removed. It sounds awful but it's actually the opposite
>>106518697hard agree. i still listen to the radio for this reason, and loved shoutcast TV as a kid for the same shitthat said at least here in canuckistan, most tv is basically internet tv and still has channels and such>>106514011it's affordable, companies just hate spending money. why do you think so much runs on "legacy" tech? modernizing requires a big investment, maintaining junk is a small amount every year forever. if you have one "bad" quarter because you dug a bunch of holes, the board and/or shareholders will sack you. they can stomach constant maintenance more easily because it doesnt make number go not up as much
>>106518697it's a nice system that's worked for decades, well it was until they got insanely jewish with the pricingBut streamers are going to same way to there's no avoiding it
>>106518729I'm not just talking paid services, same concept applies to OTA
Who would miss crazy priced satellite tv? It was expensive when I worked there in the year 2000.
>>106518997There's also free satellite TV
Geostationary satellite is going the same way HF radio/shortwave went - LEO satellite is replacing geostationary because it's a better technology. Pointing satellite antennas is yet another useless skill I have
>>106518161The only TV channels that are worth watching are the NickToons, the Cartoon Network, the FXX, the Comedy Central, The Science Chancel, The Food Network, The Cooking Channel, and the premium movie channels like the HBO channels, the Cinemax channels, etc.Watching live TV channels is really comfy because it feels natural, whereas watching something that I downloaded on the internet feels unnatural because it feels "forced".
>>106518997Was paying $50-60 for starchoice in the late 2000's in Canada. Was a pretty good experience.
>>106519180>NickToons, the Cartoon Network, the FXX, the Comedy Central, The Science Chancel, The Food Network, The Cooking Channel,Peak fucking comfy minus Nicktoons. They haven't been good in over 10 years now. I'd say the same for the science channel too, not as bad as Nicktoons though, just really lacking in content lately. Seems like you just see the same stuff from 2015 and older on that network now. Also I'd strongly recommend NHK Japan's world news. Even if you aren't a total weeb, they have some amazing documentaries and science stuff. Watch them over shit like American news any day.
>>106513600>push self driving cars as the norm>push tv's inside self driving cars>move satellite to in car tv'sThere I just saved satellite
>>106516914Ads killed television. Boomer-vision is unwatchable more due to the ads than even the content itself. It's all slop though, no matter the source.
>>106513702Same reason copper plain old telephone service was destroyed.
>>106513702Control, unironically.
>>106519413explain your reasoning
>>106513702because on satellite you would see when politicians shifted to reptileshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m67MbXwQWs
>>106513702>multiple tvs to one dishThat only worked if your lnb is aimed at 1 sattelite I thinkBack in the good old days I had a dreambox with a multitenne (lnb pointing at 4 sats) but I could only watch and record 2 stations at the same time when they were on same transponder..That being said: I loved the days of free taquila canal+ etc.. All changed when they upgraded to seca2 encryption Ah good days
>>106513600>Get starlink for $120>watch unlimited online streams>do everything online>Get Sat TV for $100>forced into legacy setup with TV>can do nothing else
>>106513702because iptv is really fucking cheap
>>106520175For providers
>>106519472they can't because there is no reasoning inside the conspiracy mindsatellite tv is the ultimate controlthey control what and when you watchinternet service allows for anything at any time
that sucks, i used to live in bumfuck nowhere which had no mobile internet coverage and the only way we could watch TV was through satellite. even starlink was horrible and didn't work for streaming TV.if satellite TV goes, short wave radio will be the only way most of my family will be able to get news.
>>106519269>Boomer-vision is unwatchable more due to the ads than even the content itself. It's all slop though, no matter the source.the average normie watches tubi and pluto which are 40% advertisements. they even pay for services like hulu and netflix which include ads in the paid subscriptions. lmao. sad thing is piracy is considered some big brain move nowadays even though it's easier than ever with front ends to do everything for you and aggregate the content with a nice 10-foot ui...
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>>106520444>internet service allows for anything at any timeonly if you pirate. if you don't, enjoy your Movie v1.03changelog:>problematic language in scene 3 removed>altered colors to make white people appear vaguely hispanic>fact checking updated for 2025
It's also happening with Cable (replaced coaxial with fibre), and Aerial/Antennas with IPTV as well. Freely is the new IPTV service they are rolling out. TV by wire was always the main goal, they did it with "Rediffusion" in the past, even in Victorian times there was "Music by Telephone" services.
>>106521136Satellite TV has the same problem, the tv channel there can also alter media before it is broadcasted. At least with the internet you do have that piracy option.
>>106521136so how does satellite service get around this?here I'll help and answer for youit doesn't you retardinternet at least gives you the possibility of alternative means of acquisition
>>106521172theory:>your gay postreality:>streaming services are both content producers and providers/aggregators, with each service essentially acting as a single 'channel' and having a relative monopolytheoretical solution:>durrrrr just piratereality:>zoomers too stupid/lazy/poor/apathetic to maintain high quality files over years (already demonstrated with the great purge of 2020)>everything lost to time because it's all digital and you own nothingat least satellite service was competing with other service and they didn't modify movies and never willyou will own nothing and you will be happy, retardi bet you don't even have 100 tb of storage
>>106520626oh boy, nothing like VOICE OF TURKEY in the morning
>>106513702>muh rural communitiesThey choose to live out in the middle of nowhere but demand modern ammenities at the expense of everyone else. Fuck satellite, it is garbage, the signal drops out constantly and the quality is inconsistent.
>>106521287>at the expense of everyone elsehow exactly? go back to eating ze bugs please
>>106521332ever hear the word "subsidy"?
>>106521344bugmen like you are subsidized by rural people, 90% of the population would die if trucks stopped for more than a few months and 99% of that 90% are in cities. lots of rural people have literally hundreds of pounds of meat just casually stored or live on their property. you're probably one of the people who was out buying toilet paper when cnn started using the official(tm) label for covid
>>106513702Just use satellite internet. If you really really want satellite television for some reason you can just set up a dish and reciever yourself and pick up the Arab, African and Russian broadcasts
>>106521387>schizo rambleas expected
>>106521433>food comes from the store
>>106515402>>106515424You can already do this and have been able to do it for decades. Tons of pakis here have weird satellite setups from their home countries
>>106521441Nta but 90% of rural people don't work in agriculture.
>>106521507Based Paki's
>>106521441>>106521524both quality posts>>106521433>too stupid to realize he's stupid
>>106521387are you not aware that people pay for foodit's not a "subsidy" it is literally the market
>>106519180Just get illegal streaming apps. They have all those channels and more. The only downside is the lack of a channel guide. It's all free though, so I can't really complain.
>>106513702>satellite>rarely interrupted unless really bad weather>internet tv>connection goes downWhat kind of fucked up internet do you get over there?
>>106521700>I can only think in terms (as in literal jargon) defined for me by my rulersok
>>106521524And why does that matter?You are aware rural areas often have industrial processing sites, factories, power generation and all manner of infrastructure?People aren't farmers because a good bunch of them went to be employed making fertilizer and equipment which makes the handful of farmers more productive.
>>106521570and then they killed the owner
>subsidized by rural people857 unemployed, 2 farmers, a gas station, a laundry shop, Cousin Davis’ machine shop and Uncle Cletus’ Bar and Grill aren’t subsidizing shit lmao
>>106513702>rarely interrupted unless really bad weather this is bullshit, anything more than a light drizzle and you'll completely lose connection until it's passed>doesn't use bandwidth, can hook up multiple tvs to one dishand every box connected to a tv will cost extra from your provider, great!granted, this applies to basically every tv service other than plain antenna>very good for remote regionsyou know whats also good for remote regions? satellite internet >capable of good quality 4k video despite 4k being the norm for so many years now, outside of one experimental channel or two when it was a fad fucking nothing uses it, it'll never happen when dipshits who pay up for satellite tv in 2k25 it don't care>connection goes downthis is case by case but I frankly find satellite to go down due to weather way more often, god help you if the box connected to the tv goes on the fritz>can buffer under demandeach connection will take up what, 20mbps max? if your connection/router can't handle it you have bigger problems to solve>requires fiber optic cables everywherewhat??this is just getting to troll territory, let go nigga satellite tv was always trashier compared to cablehonestly, channel providers as a whole is just a fucking scam now, you don't need anything more than your local channels for news and sports, everything else can be pirated or from some cheapass iptv service if you're insistent on needing anything more than that, anybody who believes otherwise is a fucking fool and a slave to these companies
>>10652138790% percent of ruralfags rely on walmart for survival (and ssdi for the ability to pay)
let me know when OTA Antenna TV endsonly then I'll say it's truly over
>>106521821>outside of one experimental channel or two when it was a fad fucking nothing uses itESPN is still 720p, not even 1080p. What makes this especially egregious is that Disney/ESPN channels are responsible for the bulk of any TV/Satellite bill.
>>106521843afaik most "HD" channels are still 720p, there's still SD channels here and there too...
>>106513600What about grandpa who lives in the country? What is he gonna do now?
>>106521831I guess if you restrict "rural" to only the poorest areas but that's the poor everywhereThe ghetto isn't exactly rolling in jobs or can afford to not be on government assistance
>>106521858Yeah, but ESPN channels alone cost something like $30 a month on your bill. It's by far the most out of any channel, and it's not optional.
>>106521831>90% percent of ruralfags rely on walmart for survival (and ssdi for the ability to pay)crazy how this applies equally if not moreso to inner city nonwhites but you choose to apply it to "ruralfags"
>>106521898no surprise there, goes to show how fucking terrible tv channel providers are these days, once boomers finally die off this will hopefully be a thing of the past
>>106521757>And why does that matter?Because it was the crux of your argument. Now you've broadened it from agricultural jobs to just economically necessary jobs in general, which is no revelation. There are important and necessary jobs being done by people in cities, suburbs and towns too. Just as you get citycucks with frivolous jobs like baristas and marketing you also get plenty ruraltards working as fast food servers, strippers and walmart greeters.t. Grew up in rural Indiana
>>106521930I think that's why ESPN just came out with their new ESPN Unlimited service, which just so happens to also cost 29.99 a month. They know the TV/satellite market is dying fast.
>>106513600>Is SATELLITE TV Coming To An END...?fuck off youtube faggot
zoomers are such unbelievable boomers, unironically thinking their streaming services are ANY better than traditional TV; one surely must be better than the other, he says, as he uncritically fails to compare them and see the obvious parallels to their histories and futures
>>106522082>"cut the cord" in young adulthood around 2008, when <5% of normies were streaming anything>watch the slow but clear decline of streaming services from the very beginning>zoomers come along 20 years later and post their hot takes on streaming services
I’m sorry but if you live in such bumfuck nowhere that you can’t get 4Mbps over copper for 720p streaming, you either need to move or kill yourself
>>106519198With inflation what is that now? Certainly over 100.
>>106522265starlink has better coverage than cellular grandpa
when I was 15 I guessed 6 digits password for locked channels and watched Hustler.
>>106522082"streaming">free>no ads>can save for offline viewingidk, seems a lot better than traditional tv
>>106522397>when I was 15 I guessed 6 digits password for locked channels and watched Hustler.what was your method for guessing it?
>>106522427you mean piracy, in which case I agree
>>106522265>4 mbps for 720p streamingwith av1/vp9/h265 you can get pretty good quality 1080p 24/30 fps at that bitrate, only a bit tight for high motion 50/60 fps content.people vastly overestimate how much bandwidth is required to stream video nowdays, more than a low quality adsl connection is only required to view on multiple devices simultaneously or 4k
>>106522428111111111112111113111114111115
>>106522428bruteforce. it was 444444
>>106522471Except I don’t, basically every platform recommends 3-4Mbps for 720p, including YouTube.
>>106522490>reccomended is the same as "required"retard, netflix av1 1080p streams are only like 1 mbps lol>including YouTube....wow you have no clue what you are talking about at all then, what is raccomended as an h264 UPLOAD isn't the same as the transcode they're serving the end useryoutube will never go beyond 2 mbps for 720p60
>>106513600>paying for TV
>>106521257>at least satellite service was competing with other service and they didn't modify movies and never willTV channels have censored stuff for decades what the fuck are you talking about
>>106522577>misspells recommended twice with two different spellingsyeah, we’re just gonna go ahead and ignore you Ramesh.
>>106513702The thing is, if already paying for internet connection infrastructure, then why pay for infrastructure dedicated to TV as well? Besides, this way there would be more room for competing services (were this market not a cartel).
>>106514779Public broadcasts via satellite exist. Different band generally but you can pick up international television channels for free via satellite.Alternative news sources that rely on internet or traditional television/radio is easily censored. Eventually all we'll have is shortwave and that been dying.
>>106519269*Corporate greedTV used to be ad free when it was cable/satellite because you were paying for it. Only OTA antenna channels had ads because you got it for free. Corporate greed decided there needed to be ads on paid content.
>>106513702We need to send chud satellite into orbit that will be completely uncensored.
>>106519117I'd have to agree with this.We can offer far better, and more importantly, bidirectional satellite internet now.As much as I hate Musk, Starlink and similar ideas are just superior.Now, we can all hate on the fact that the internet can get its shit slapped offline because one country was really angry one time and they decide to change root DNS rules that block one of the most popular websites for 60% of the planet, but that's a whole different issue.Besides, it's not like satellite TV was ever without its issues at times, or terrestrial.Internet is definitely far higher when it comes to service outages, but they are still rare enough to not be as big an issue compared to the massive benefits you gain with said internet connection.We already tried doing stuff like teletext to send dynamic information and it worked well, but it was still one-way.There were hacky attempts to bolt on internet through these similar ideas, but it was more complicated than it was worth.
>>106521387And 100% of people would die if all oxygen disappeared one day, who gives a fuck?>In this retarded fucking scenario where all trade stops this group of people would die first so they're less important.Dumbfuck argumemt from a dumbfuck rural nigger
>>106520409for consumers too its like a tenner a month at most
>>106513600First, they kill television broadcasting over the air with regular antennae, now this, everything is being migrated to the internet.
>>106521757Who gives a fuck? If your job can't pay for itself it shouldn't exist. Rural faggots hate this simple fact and think the universe owes them the right to work whatever useless job they somehow managed to fit into their peanut brains.
>>106524823>If your job can't pay for itself it shouldn't existDon't let jannies see this
