>28 generation attempts later...

>>106518060
artists don't feel bad for us, so it clearly isn't a AI problem fundamentally thanks to that

>>106518060
No. They can all fuck off.

>he went out of his way to spent "HUNDREDS of dollars" for art
retard.
>giving any of this attention
another retard. you two should kiss.

>>106518110
>artists don't feel bad for us
correct!

>>106518195
>>he went out of his way to spent "HUNDREDS of dollars" for art
i needed art for my website, everybody paid for graphic art years ago

>>106518096
>28 generation attempts
>3-5 seconds per gen
>total time: 140 seconds
>total cost: 3 cents in electricity
hmmmm

>>106518213
>1024x1024

>>106518211
and you just HAD to spend "hundreds of dollars", right?

>>106518227
sry not catching your meaning
probably some kind of weird cope though based on ignorance

>>106518227
> Use AI uspcaler to make it a 1 GB 258000 x 258000 photo that doesn't pixelate because AI
Checkmate, paint piggy

>>106518060
>do you feel bad for artists?
no, good artists are fine

>>106518060
>do you feel bad for artists?
no, they're still able to draw to their heart's content

>>106518060
if anything, i'm going to be getting back in to art
slop has inspired me to leave the corners of the internet filled with it

you never spent any amount of money for art ever in your life
in fact you are a complete poorfag that could not even afford to do so if you wanted
you simply wanted to ragebait because you are so poor that you cannot afford anything better to do

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>>106518227
Takes 12s to gen a full 1920x1152px image with all parameters set for max quality possible with noobai highresfix double pass workflow that produces prod ready images at the end, without any extra special optimizations on my 400$ used 3090.

Depending on your GPU, optimizations, model and workflows used, you can basically gen at real time for the first pass where you pick which image you like before deciding to go forward with that one to the end and modify it further with inpainting and 4k upscaling.
Let alone letting it run overnight and collecting thousands of images to just go through instantly and pick which ones you want in the morning away lmao.

And this was basically possible since year one anyway, it never began for paintpiggies.

>>106519217
Entry level AI rigs cost 1.5k$ minimum already doe

>>106518096
I'll just take a shit while it's running

>>106519231
Good thing you can rent them for a few cents per minute

>>106519460
You're gonna spend more on renting then than buying a gpu that you will use for 5+ years and will be able to use for gaming, video/image editing and everything else anyway

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>>106518060
>do you feel bad for artists?
Only if she's a Japanese and draw a lot of hentai.

>>106518060
lmao the AI video got like 10x more views

>>106519409
Seems redundant.

Not in the slighest.

Artists have been gatekeeping creativity for millennia. Now, it's OUR TIME TO SHINE.

>>106518227
more than enough for my 1024x768 screen.

>>106520145
Gatekeeping? The only thing that was holding you down was your complete lack of skill and talent. AI slop is not going to change that.

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>>106518227
-- at a time, i'm by no means an expert, but i've done some successful "upscales" by means of generating an image using multiple 1024x1024 tiles.

>>106520352
Taking the bait: Creativity is in the head, not in the material world.
It is created in a person's head, and is shared to other people's heads over a medium ("art" in this case).
There are tons of people with creativity in their heads, who don't have the time or will to invest years into a craft to share them to other people's heads.
But with AI, anyone can communicate their creative ideas to other people without having to invest years into some unrelated craft like rubbing pencils on paper.

>>106520388
This.
While ideasguys are generally mocked, they are only mocked by people who try to gatekeep and usually lack those skills themselves, they're usually the entrylevel retards who settle for being shit, aka deviantfart tier shartists.
It's funny that the majority of the time I see people whining the loudest about AI generation are usually the shittiest ones who use their niche "talents" to make fetish shit.
Furries are screeching hardcore over it because their Patreon bennies have been gutted. kek
I saw one particularly hilarious case of this of a furry screeching about some diaper brand supposedly using AI for an adult diaper design... on Instagram on the announcement post that was immediately after a video of their artist DRAWING THE FUCKING DESIGN.
Elitist scum piss me off and ruin so many industries that it isn't even funny.
Worse yet, I've seen so many of these very same people screech at AI for "mass theft", then they go and stream or post videos of them going on to Google and copying images in to canvases and sketching over them to come up with ideas, not even images off of stock sites either, nor were they paying for them.
Some people consider Google itself of mass theft for web-scraping.
Motherfuckers can't stand on some moral highground while doing the exact same workflows the AI performs.

AI is a tool, it's auto-complete, it's a wizard, it's mish-mashing others works together which is an entire art style itself - photomontages allowed the expression of ideas, parodies and so on.
Would I use it in a work? Dunno, haven't found a use for it nor found a good way to integrate it smoothly.
AI code gen is ass but I've sure learned a lot of new techniques through asking.

t. artist and software dev who doesn't associate with most of the community any more because they are insufferable clowns and hypocrites.

>>106520103
not if I need to take a shit.

>>106518096
That sounds like soul crushing office task, wouldn't it be more satisfying to actually draw? OP's image is not even complex/hard enough to justify using ai.

Plus in the long term the drawfags can actually improve their skill. How do prompt engineers improve on prompting skills?

>>106520388
not him, and i completely agree with you, but there's a flip side to this as well, or rather an alternative view of the same issue. that is, ai art tools are /not/ a replacement for creativity. i know this first-hand because i know i'm not a creative person. i could learn to draw, but i don't really have any ideas of what i'd want to draw. and even being introduced to ai image generation, i still don't know what i'd like to generate.
so i agree with you, art is the sharing of ideas, and it doesn't matter at all how that is done. pen, paint, or prompt. the substance is in the ideas that come before the implementation. ai art can absolutely be creative because the creativity was never in the drawing itself, that comes before you start drawing anything.
personally. if you have a compelling idea if what image you want, it doesn't matter how you make it.

>>106518213
>normal art
>"hmmm what if I add something new in my pic? I'll just add it!"
>AIjeet "art"
>"saaar I can't add anything without messing the whole thing even after regenerating a hundred times saar"

>>106520145
>gatekeeping creativity
What the fuck does this even mean? Gatekeeping what, how? Just learn to draw, retard.
Your brain is completely rotten from the garbage your read online.

>>106520388
Then HOW are they "gatekeeping" it, moron? Are they force feeding you with meds so your head will stop working?
>who don't have the time or will
Then they don't have, nor need to share anything. Useless, lazy cattle with no drive nor aspirations.
"You see, I can be a millionaire but I am so lazy and don't have the time! Therefore I am entitled to free money!"
>But with AI, anyone can communicate their creative ideas to other people without having to invest years into some unrelated craft like rubbing pencils on paper.
I wish.

>>106521046
but it's haaaaard....and takes tiiiime....my time is precious and I can't be wasting it on learning to draw :(

>>106521071
You are wasting it on endless scrolling online and wasting days on nothing, leeching welfare and getting fatter and fatter.
Excuses, you don't want to draw, you don't need it. Nobody is holding you back, especially in modernity, where you have all the time and money on your hands. In first world, you don't even need to work to get housing and food.

>>106521086
FUCK YOU my mom supporting my NEET lifestyle doesn't mean I have "free time" as you perceive it
AI just lets me enjoy life without any hassle!

>>106518060
>my art
Not anymore! LOL

>>106521101
Diapers also let you enjoy your turds without any hassle. Disgusting, useless pig in a pen.

>>106519222
You can locally generate images on an iPhone these days, they're basically pocket RTX 3050 8GBs.

>>106520926
It's not just about prompting, but you can get better at that by learning about the nuances of how the models you use respond to different words or prompting styles. You can also learn about new things to prompt for (art styles, angles, lighting, etc). And you can further develop your taste and discernment to better pick between generated options.

A modicum of drawing ability is also very useful for inpainting, and will allow you to create input images, so being good at drawing will also improve your ability to create AI images. AI artists should absolutely pick up a pencil, but they should also keep diffusing.

>>106518110
Artists were luddites since the beginning on average, hence why large chunk of fiction actually taking AI and automation seriously is strongly against it. The word robot came from theatrical play about how we automate all work with robots and then the robots realise humans are useless and kill us. The idea that AI is bad is older then the idea of AI itself.

>>106521068
>Then HOW are they "gatekeeping" it
By relentlessly attacking everyone and everything that uses AI instead of doing it "their way"? That should be obvious.

>>106521068
Also,
>Then they don't have, nor need to share anything.
What you just said is gatekeeping. You're guilty of it with that very sentence.

>>106521316
>Artists have been gatekeeping creativity for millennia.
"AI" wasn't here for millennia, moron.

>>106521326
>I want a thing, but I don't want to work for it or do anything at all to get it, I DEMAND to be given!
>Well, then you don't want it all that much
>AAAAAAAA! SQUEAL! SQUEAL! AAAAAAAA!
Shits like you is why fathers need to beat their male kids and why bullying is sometimes very beneficial.

>>106521348
You're still gatekeeping
>I do thing the easy way
>"AAAAAAA WHY AREN'T YOU DOING IT THE CUMBERSOME WAY LIKE I AM!!! AAAAAAAA! SQUEAL! SQUEAL! AAAAAAAA!

>>106521406
You are free to do anything you want, learn any skill and draw anything you want. WHO and HOW is gatekeeping what, retarded mutt?
>I do thing the easy way
You aren't doing anything. Pressing a button to get random result is an act of consuming slop, that gives your useless ego a boost and an illusion that you "did" something. You have no control over anything, just pressing a button and getting slop thrown at you.

>>106521454
I'm a different anon (which doesn't use AI) but have you tried local genning with professional setups? Comfy-UI looks extremely cumbersome. Outputs are really customizable beyond "write a prompt and press a button".
Genning is another skillset akin to drawing, maybe equally challenging. I myself prefer drawing because it's comparatively the easier route. Not sure why you all feel the need to cope so hard about this. Is it because your income depends on your outputs?

>>106518213
Yes, hundreds of dollars for graphic assets for a website was very normal. It's also not a lot of money. You can tell you're a neet or underage if you think that's a big deal in any way.

>>106518060
I still kek how AI is just copyright whitewashing at this point.

>>106518060
the art you're seeing is in that post is literally just the original artwork posted by the artist but poorly animated by AI. The shitty animation is not shown in the screenshot ofc.
He is not mad at AI making a nice looking artwork and putting him out of a job or some shit, hes mad some retard is making what is essentially one of those ugly interpolated 60FPS anime clips out of his artwork.

>>106518060
the people claiming AI can replace artists are the same people who claim that mcdonalds or cup-o-noodles can replace restaurants (fat stinky retarded autists.)

>>106521704
It's different here because AI makes better art than 99.9% of artists out there.
Twitter artists are already the mcdonalds of artists, that's why they're shitting themselves so hard.

>>106521692
despite a certain group largely populating this board, /g/ still doesn't understand the concept of "bastardization" and/or "pride".

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>>106518231
>no answer

>>106521732
not him, but yea, art used to be really expensive

>>106521704
99.999% of modern "artists" are making slop worse than AI. Good riddance.

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>>106521776
This just in: Majority of people practicing an art are... complete garbage?

amazing thread.

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>>106521750
>used to be
exactly.

>>106521903
yea, that's my and his point. "needed" and "had" are both past tense. he had to, because there wasn't a cheaper option than paying an artist hundreds. now you don't.

>>106521792
most ai art is shit.
... most non-ai art is also shit.

not really sure why they think this is a good argument for them

>>106518110
>artists don't feel bad for us
Why should they? When this shit was first kicking off /g/ was filled with anti-artist "should have learned to coooode", "get a real job", and "programming will never be replaced" posts. Instead of working together toward a command goal you retards decided to shit fling back and forth for years like good little cattle. It was programmers first move not to be dicks but you failed at it so now don't expect any kindness in return and as someone on both sides its sad to see.

>>106522143
>When this shit was first kicking off /g/ was filled with anti-artist "should have learned to coooode", "get a real job"
This was a little blackpilling. Most of it was out of spite. I never understood it, even being an artist who has used AI.
>SEE? HEHEHAHAHAHAHA I CAN MAKE ART HUEUEHEHAHAHA
It was the weirdest thing ever.

Whenever i see posts shilling AI Art i think of this guy
https://youtu.be/u_v9Gbw6kcU?feature=shared

>>106520388
Take what you just said but swap rubbing pencils with banging on a keyboard. And making art with making programs. That's how stupid you sound. Sure you can get an output but much like ai code it's going to have lots of issues, and you can't tweak it exactly. I don't care how many rounds of nanobanana and stable diffusion you use. If you don't understand fundamentals you won't know good art vs shit art.

>>106521316
Everything is allowed instead of AI because AI does 90% of the work including the creative decisions. There is almost no difference to the outside observer between AI artist image and image made using random prompt from ChatGPT put inside Midjourney. This is why AI images are not fully considered creation of the prompter, the same way book made using mostly ChatGPT isn’t, or tracing a picture isn’t.

>>106518060
AI cannot make art because it does not think, at least as far as we know.
AI does not have real life experiences to draw from.
What you are actually seeing is just a collection of pixels. There is nothing artistic about it. Some people (nihilists) are fine with that.

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>>106518060
>paying an artist mere pocket change is le bad and we should fuel the beast with data and shekels instead so Jeets can hire more Jeets in Silicon Valley
Nah, I'll continue commission's talented artists in third world dumps like the Philippines and Indonesia to draw me cunny.
Get fucked Anti Christ worshiper, your tech bubble will bust AGAIN and you'll be left holding the bag while corpo CEO's will get government issued golden parachutes/bailouts AGAIN (tax payer funded of course).

>>106522602
a paintbrush can't think, either

>>106520352
AI is the future. Artists are the past. It is simple math. You are already behind.

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>>106521201
I remember when photoshop was less wide spread and people online were like
>no real graphic designer uses digital graphics
>using photoshop is cheating
>real artists use airbrushing and not just some toy

>>106522602
>only artists obsessed with money can create art
Stop gatekeeping, retard.

>>106522665
not him, but they aren't mutually exclusive

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>>106522225
>It was the weirdest thing ever.
you mean the brownest thing ever? it was jeets.

>>106522665
>AI is the future.
Correct. Doesn't change the fact that no "gatekeeping" was ever done.

>>106522675
I remember experimenting digitally in the 2000's. It was very exciting.

>>106522645
What is your point?
AI is not a paintbrush.
I cannot generate a full image by just tapping the paintbrush on the canvas.
It requires hours of work to create a painting using a paintbrush, all the time deliberately choosing the angle, pressure, hue, concentration, speed, layering, type of paintbrush, texture, and many more things you cannot comprehend.
AI can never make art unless (or until) it gains free will, independent thought, and real experience.
Right now it's about as artistic as taking a photo of a painting in a museum, putting a snapchat filter on it and calling it your own.

>>106522706
>AI can never make art unless (or until) it gains free will, independent thought, and real experience.
And at that point of course, it wouldn't be your art anyway, it will be the AI's

>>106522706
i don't disagree with anything you're saying.
ai doesn't make art, people use ai to make art

>>106522731
>people use ai to make art
people use AI to steal art.
The person is not making the art and neither is the AI. It is a demonic creation at worst and stolen valor at best.
If you value art at all, do not save images, videos, or music where AI was used, and especially do not generate that shit.

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>>106522726
>artists get inspired by other artists
>this isn't considered theft however
I'm by no means a fan of the gAIy hype but if you make art it's your art. Anyway the glorified and over valued webcrawler chatbots powered by thousands of Nvidia GPU racks or Jeet slave labor in Myanmar is far from being sentient being regardless of what retarded Boomers and Zoomie investors think otherwise.

>>106522682
>>only artists obsessed with money can create art
Never said that. Also you're a commie.

>>106518060
You need either a beefy PC or a paid account to generate images, and either way a lot of patience. Art is still inaccessible to the working man.

>>106518060
You're crass as hell that's the main issue
Hard to believe that there are still real people on xitter, habit is to be reckoned with

>>106522897
>implying

>>106522788
>but if you make art it's your art.
NTA but by the very word of the law for AI art, it isnt. AI art and other gens are uncopyrightable, iirc the argument and decision was something akin to when that monkey took a selfie and the owner of the camera tried to claim ownership of the photo and failed.

>>106522897
kek

Why do Indians in particular and third worlders in general worship generative AI garbage so much?

>>106523023
theyre like negative energy parasites they thrive on crushing another bug beneath them because thats their civilization

>>106523023
Cargo cult. They worship anything that has even the slightest chance of either getting them out of the shithole they are in, or at least making it a bit funnier to rot there alive.

>>106518060
creative bros... i thought we were supposed to be irreplaceable???

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>>106523023
you realize ai is literally unironically more intelligent than 99.9999999% of pajeets? why wouldn't they worship it. when the retards on social spam about how ai is so intelligent and smarter than "humans" unknowningly are right. it's just in their demented low intelligence minds they think ofwhite or east asian men whereas in reality it's already better pantonoids and women. even with ai being wrong about so much and simply hallucinating it's better and more worthwhile to talk with than 99.9999999% of pajeets and 99.999% of women.

>>106521031
>ai art
>"hmm what if i try this completely different concept? i'll just add it to my prompt!"
>normal art
>"saaar i already started, i can't just redraw the entire work to fit in your new design saar"

>>106523358
>friend asks me if i can make him a logo for his company
>sure maybe
>describes what he wants
>generate some images, pick the best one and clean it up/vectorise it in inkscape
>he likes it
as shrimple as that

>>106519231
Making artfags seethe: priceless.

>>106518060
Democratization of value creation. Everyone can create art, music, writing, that only costs few cents vs traditional means of hiring someone to do it for hundreds/thousands per work that takes weeks to create vs seconds/minutes with computer.

>>106522897
i wish an AI could make these

Thankfully as a philosophy major AI hasnt impacted my job prospects in the slightest.

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>>106518060

AI bros have a deep hatred for anyone who spends time honing their craft. They hate skilled people.

>>106523585
Yeah bro that slop you generated in 2 seconds is definitely "value".

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good morning saars just 2 more week until ai world pooperpower

>"my art"

There is no such thing. You release it into the world and then society claims and does what it does with it. If you're successful, that is.

>>106518060
>NOOOOOO, AI art ia not real art!!!!
>You have to pay for my furry futa dragon vore fetish art because it is real art
>Stop cooming to fake art REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>106522834
You did say that. The only reason anyone ever does anything is for profit. The US Supreme Court recognized this. It is effectively the law of the land. If a human is involved there is a profit motive. End of story. Artists create art for profit. End of story. It is simple logic. AI unleashes gatekept creativity by allowing anyone to profit from art rather than letting the elites and artists keep their market closed.

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>>106525420
> The only reason anyone ever does anything is for profit

>>106525376
Outside of /g/, it is not like this and I have no idea why. This board in particular seems very spiteful regarding the subject.

>>106525414
>>You have to pay for my furry futa dragon vore fetish art because it is real art
who are you talking about in particular.
>Stop cooming to fake art REEEEE
we can pretend people actually give a shit that you jerk off to ai generated art.

>>106525420
meds.

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>paying mediocre Western artists hundreds of thousands of dollaridoos to draw stuff you want
Skill issue, Koreans will do a better job for pennies by comparison.

>>106525819
This fucking website is nothing but combative contrarians. Doesn't matter what you say someone will show up and go "Uhm actually having to drink horse jizz is actually based and you're a retard for saying society would be better if we didn't have to service the cocks of our Mongol overlords. I've actually learn many stories about how in other lands they have no Mongol overlords and they're starving to death. Be happy you get free horse jizz straight from the tapp!"

>>106525396
anon you can't even tell it's ai generated anymore. you couldn't refute its value even if you wanted to lmao

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>>106522635
>>106525948
^ These anons get it OP >>106518060
Commissioning competent third worlders whom who can basically make a killing in their country not because they're actually asking for a lot but because USD paired against their own national currency more or less sets them up quite handsomely. It's a win win for everyone, you get loli's that don't look like shit and they can pay rent and go to the grocery store.

It's cheaper than subscribing to JeetGPT or hiring a Westoid troon artist. Why aren't more anons doing this?

>>106520103
kek

>>106526680
>Why aren't more anons doing this?
Because they fucking love whining 24/7. They've got no idea what the hell they're talking about, implying there is only "one" option. Everyone is supposedly charging $9,000,000 for a shitty fart porn stickman drawing.

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>Literally EVERY SINGLE ARTIST is charging 10 TRILLION DOLLARINOS
>YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, I HAVE TO DEAL WITH THESE PEOPLE
FUCKING. SKILL. ISSUE.

>>106526383
shut the fuck up faggot

>>106519053
But nobody buys my furry art anymore
:(((((

>>106522225
Most of /g/ are technophiles that probably don’t have tech jobs. Also everyone is mean on 4chan.

>>106522675
Yeah, but AI hits different. Photoshop gives you ctrl+z and color picker, but for the rest you actually need to be creative and graphically capable. AI just gives you what you write and only reason to learn proompting is to get exactly what you want.

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>>106526761
>FUCKING. SKILL. ISSUE.
OP shoulda maxed out his barter skills rather than putting it all in Sóyence just so he can play with the terminals like some giant nerd honestly. No wonder he's fucking poor, lmao.
Sucks to suck

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>>106523219
even considering the West and Northeast asia are ~2.6b, out of 8b people, the vast majority of humans are retarded

>>106519194
Same, the collective extreme gag reflex most people have for AI art is what convinced me to get into it
And since I started drawing, I can see why, with a pencil in hand, you can create anything you want.
With a model, you accept whatever the gen regurgitates.

>>106525819
/g/ is the tech board full of people (mainly of Southeast Asian origin) who have no hobbies outside of coding, so for some reason this leads to them having a sense of superiority over people who enjoy creative hobbies like making art and music

>>106526901
skill issue, all the popufur artists I know are raking in as much as ever

>>106520145
>MAXIMUM BRAINROT
Anon, go find a hobby, please.

>>106522665
Sure thing, Michelangelo.

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I'm an ex-slopper, and all the increasingly nervous diffusion addicts ITT are just desperate for engagement
Despite all the gloating of AI jeets in this thread, most of the art posted in this thread is hand-made
AI to this very moment cannot do any meaningful character interaction, cannot do multiple characters or anything remotely technically difficult, it still fucks up hands and feet, and ironically now it's harder to detect because sloppers cannot tell a good hand from a bad one due to slop overdosing.
They always gloat how they have replaced artists, but most studios have not let go of their artists for AI prompters.
Even Artstation which was adamant about defending AI gen, go look at it now, AI posting is essentially dead.
Most social media platform continue to be dominated by human made art, even though AI art is effortless and has already matured (its user base has plateaued in places like reddit, google search trends have stagnated)
Even 4chan is dominated by human art, even though it is the home turf of terminally online technophiles.
AI art could be as good as you claim, but none is biting
This inevitable great replacement of artists seems ever elusive.

>>106518060
>Robots replacing cleaners, miners, bus drivers... etc
Hahaha not my problem, should have studied like me!

>Robots replacing artist and programmers
Nooo this is worse than 9/11 and holocaust combined, stay the fuck away from art and code

>>106522645
neither can a nigger

>>106527787
This is what I imagine that anon's thought process goes like:
>People who are good at drawing were born with artistic talent that they hardly even had to work for, if at all
>I wasn't born with talent, so that means I'm being gatekept from making good art
>People will never accept or be interested in what I make because I have no talent. It's so unfair
>I have such great ideas. Everyone would love and appreciate my ideas if I wasn't being gatekept
These people never actually have any good ideas to begin with.

>>106527843
People don't clean, mine, or drive busses because it's their joy and passion. It is only a job, and nothing more. Same with programming. I'm a programmer, and I don't feel as though there's anything inherently wrong with AI-generated code.

AI generated art, on the other hand? It just feels like a complete waste of time to me, because part of what makes art interesting to me to begin with, is the fact that other human cared enough to take the time to represent that idea in the way that they did, instead of just effortlessly prompting it. I care about the effort that went into art because I look at art to feel impressed, and other emotions like that. Algorithmically generated slop is boring in comparison.

>>106520388
Damn, you AI fags would literally do anything else other than actually creating art and developing your skills. Creating art is equally enjoyable as practicing and working to perfect it. But you would know that if you actually loved what you do. You just want a machine to churn out your "creativity". Sorry, but art doesn't work that way, and it never will.

>>106527870
I agree 100%
I will not waste a second of my time over what a random pixel generator cooked up, however, many times I find myself zooming over a piece of art, or comics, taking in the details, and more often than not you find funny fuck ups or even easter eggs in there
One of my favorite memories is me and my friends looking for Rembrandt hiding himself in his paintings
I have never looked at an AI slop image that did anything to me, and even when one piques my interest, the moment I notice it's AI, I lose all interest.

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Artists, behold, your replacement

>>106518060
>i used to pay artists hundreds of dollars for artwork
Really, like what? Paintings? Sculpture? Photographs? Lithographs? Mixed-media?

Tell us about say just three pieces of art you own and how much you paid for each, just roughly. You must be quite a collector, OP.

And why don't you post say, three of your favorite AI pieces, why are they your favorites? What are the technical or emotional or art-theoretic ideas they explore and how do you feel when viewing this art? Come on just three.

I'm really excited to hear back from OP, I always wonder what kind of art 4channers collect. It's fascinating!

>>106527837
>I'm an ex-slopper
Same here, though I was already familiar with art for years. I used to post in the /de3/ general very early on. The amount of defeatism in those threads was insane.

>>106527984
This question is for anybody who previously purchased or commissioned art, what are your three favorite pieces and why? And how much did you pay? And then, if you feel AI is now good enough to replace human artists, what's your favorite AI art? Can you describe why it's your favorite?

Anybody and everybody, please feel free to answer this question. I don't think anybody HERE actually can. Not adequately. But I'm open to hearing people try.

And when one says AI has now replaced human art, does this include music? How about film and TV? Poetry? Bas-reliefs?

I can believe AI 'art' is making inroads in the corporate world. For sure. And I can believe that artists who work with corporate clients or who themselves are on staff, are seeing less work and the possibility of job cuts, less pay, etc. as they become redundant in the field of soulless, corporate 'art.'

OTOH I can't really think of a field outside the corporate one where AI art is making inroads or encroaching. Certainly not fine art, likely not music excepting pop where it's likely been used covertly for a couple years now. Probably 3D animated bears you see on soda commercials smiling and drinking a can of soda could be AI generated quicker and cheaper than having some 3D animator model and animate them. But I doubt you can 3D animate a natural behaving bear battling some other bear with AI, no way. You still need humans to do that.

I'm open to AI infiltrating the fine art world, that'd be very funny indeed. Fine art world is so far up its ass that its ripe for it. Much like how the Sokol Affair needed to happen and showed everybody how fake and gay high and academic culture is.

>>106527985
I'm no artist, sorry, just was interested in a novelty toy at the time, no idea what /de3/ even is, but I do follow tons of artists in twitter and pixiv, the latter not so much now since the slop avalanche.
I just feel like the AI side of the pond is more interested in getting a reaction from artists than actually making interesting.
I cannot actually think of a single AI-driven artistic project that actually matured and garnered respect.
In the end, and believe me, as an ex-slopper this will hurt me as much as the AI jeets ITT, we, like the talentless hacks on twitter they like to harp on about, want quick recognition and easy money, but I realized early this is a fool's errand.
Scarcity is the source of art's value, destroy scarcity and you have nothing.

>>106528045
>I'm no artist, sorry, just was interested in a novelty toy at the time
It's fine.
>no idea what /de3/ even is
It was a shitty general dedicated to a quite versatile (at the time) image generator.
>the latter not so much now since the slop avalanche.
It's quite bad over there, indeed.
>I just feel like the AI side of the pond is more interested in getting a reaction from artists than actually making interesting.
Good to see more people finally starting to nooootice how little heart there really is going around in the space.

What is 'good' AI art though? Like how do you benchmark how good it is? And can AI art have meaning?

>>106528043
>I doubt you can 3D animate a natural behaving bear battling some other bear with AI
Depends entirely on what you mean by that. I'm fairly sure the tools to create actual 3D assets and then use machine learning to control the final character while using carrots and sticks to get to to something approximating the behavior of a bear is entirely within the realms of possibility. Its mostly a case of "yeah but why would you?" since its not like it'd be cheap to do since you'd be the first to actually put to gether all these components and also train the bear animation AI.
If a company like Rockstar wanted better bear AI in RDR 4 I'm sure they could create an internal workflow system to for AI powered generation of unique bears models with slight modifications to their behavior to create distinct personalities capable of fighting each other just like real bears would.
But why?
It'd be multi-million dollar project for a team of people to spend a year or two on. Just on the off chance that the player runs into a bear and it does anything other than just walk around sniffing at stuff and the player have seen enough bears to know that it looks like Bear #5 from the database? Better to spend the money on improving variation and behavior in human NPCs.

I think one of the big issues with AI art is that peoplr that gen it dont know when its enough, flooding every site with it made most people just react negatively, like a fad of the month but on steroids, remember when everybody was doing Ghibli versions of everything? What happened to that?

>>106518060
>"my art"
>it's literally just a rip off of gandalf walking to the shire

>>106525376
other way around. artists have ai living in their head rent free, finding any reason to shit on it

>>106518060
>Get the fuck away from my art and do something of your own.
This "AI is killing art" screeching is so fake and gay because professional artists who make art in the real world have nothing to fear in AI. AI is not a threat to your work unless you're one of those faggots who draw pictures on your iPad then sell the jpg for $20 and pretend that's on the same level as an oil painting.
An image generating bot cannot replicate 1:1 a sculpture, or a painting, things which are tangible and unique because they're actual fucking things an actual artist made, not pixels on a screen.