>intel arc pro b50>passmark g3d scores of 18000>16GB vram>4x displayport>70W, no PCIe power needed>dual slot low profile>fully open source linux drivers>$350This thing blows rtx 4060 lp (115w) and 5060 lp (145w) out of the water.
>>106518987too bad intel is imploding
>>106518987I'm hoping it's got a fan but low profile cards like that generally assume they get generous external cooling. Even with a fan I'd still be concerned
does it come with a single slot option?this could be the replacement to my chinese rtx a2000 8gb
>>106519044it's a blower designalso it's 70W, they're not furnaces compared to blackwell cards
>>106518987How are the drivers?
>>106518987based
1 slot cards are more important. they made a 1 slot gtx 1070 before.
>>106519202imagine the noise
where the fuck is my B770? Where is my dual B60? Why does it take this long for Intel, a giant multinational that is struggling to field good products, to update its product stack in an exploding sector where it can make well received products?wtf are they doing?
>>106518987Hdmi???
>>106519235It's an interface for poor people. This is a professional grade gpu
>>106519229Probably too busy trying to make more proprietary x64 extensions
>>106518987I already got the A310 for $100 for my AV1 encoding homeserver needs
>>106519229>wtf are they doing?like we said, imploding
sff is only useful in real life for servers and other specific applications. most people here who are interested in sff are doing it for social media/Internet clout. faggots.
>>106518987>displayportAryanport chuds... we won.
>>106519229>wtf are they doing?They're choking the GPU department probably due to department rivalries over funding. Big corporations like that almost work like government without proper direction and vision (Pat Gelsinger).
>>106519495they are also useful for repurposing sff optiplex & thinkstation shitboxes for AI/gaymen
>>106519059>they're not furnaces compared to blackwell cardsjust power limit?
>>106519792they physically cant draw more than 75W from the slot
>>106519824and that is relevant to what I said how?
Anyone tested SR-IOV yet?
>>106519833why would you intentionally gimp something that you bought?fashion?
>>106519229cpu overhead is prohibitive, litterally no point releasing a higher end card, because the drivers cant handle the high draw calls of new games on most cpus. basically they are stuck with 2014 amd tier driver performance. remains to be seen if its fixable or not, at the very least i would not expect a launch this year, they will probably skip it, and if it does come out, it will be workstation/compute only most likely.
>>106520089a 70% power limit gets you >90% of the performance, it's just logical
>>106518987>16GB vram>70WI wouldn't mind supplementing my 4090 with something that low powered that could keep an LLM up and running 24/7, but what kind of quality can you get at 16GB? Like, what's the best quality model/quant you can cram into that tiny amount of VRAM?Also... I don't see it for sale anywhere.
>>106519792That doesn't change the fact that you NEED a PCIe power cable for those cards. This is comfortably the most powerful slot-powered card around, so is perfect for upgrading old office systems and such to turn them into gaymen PCs. ...or it would be if it wasn't $350, meaning it makes no sense for a "budget" build.
they will go bankrupt before this thing hits the shelves
I quite literally just want to purchase 2 x B60;s.Intel are so slow. Is a good sidegrade from a 9060 XT for LLM use but holy shit just release the fucking B60 already.
>>106518987>idles at 40Wno thanks
>This thing blows rtx 4060 lpProof?
>retard gaymer confuse workstation card with gaymers gpu
>>106522237they're one firmware flashing away from each other
>>106519018>too bad intel is implodingHonestly I'd be okay if everything BUT their GPU division goes under. Sure the GPU's still can't compete with AMD and Nvidia yet in things like gaming BUT they're a great deal for video encoding on a budget and who knows what future fruits ARC will bear.That's the best outcome. To bad Softbank and US tax dollars are gonna keep the worst aspects of that company a float much like when Bush and Obama bailed out GMC and Chevy numerous times and now people only drive those sheit cars because they're poor and the moment they have enough in their piggy bank or get a raise they almost always end up buying something from Japan that isn't an unreliable teethe rattling piece of shit.I guess we just aren't allowed to have nice things in Clownworld.
>>106523084>Sure the GPU's still can't compete with AMD and Nvidia yet in things like gaming BUT they're a great deal for video encoding on a budget and who knows what future fruits ARC will bear.This is a meme, they're pretty good at budget gaming and for things that are GAAS w/ MMO like titles.The AAA vulkanDX11,12slopfests that people benchmark with and don't really play they do alright in, not bad, not great but on linux the cards are good. For low tier gaming, even if you've got a 4k display and deal with the VRAM overhead on linux, the cards at least work with gamescope which nvidia cards don't, so you're good to game at 1080p etc.AI, they're good bang for the buck, good community support and their ecosystem isn't the mess that ROCm & HIP are/were. ROCm outside linux is a disaster for RDNA4. ROCm in linux for RDNA4 is a disaster.Intel should continue to exist. They're almost in that sweet spot. Timing and that company are what fuck them over.The B50 existing in may before the 9060 XT came out woulda been good.The B60 needs to be here now. 16 & 24GB GPUs for inference at an affordable price that shits down nvidias neck, good 2nd cards for video encoding and light 3D work. The problem now with the B50 is it's only just filtering out, at a time where people really want the B60's 24GB VRAM and initial pricing? The same price as the 9060 XT with slower memory bandwidth pcie5x8 versus 5x16. 70W is killing it, it's a card for people like me who want to throw into their 2nd computer but at the price of the 9060 XT. If compute and VRAM are the end game you'd just wait a few months.It's in such a weird spot compared to the B60 & B580. The B580 had a good launch window but VRAM deficit it works where it worked, the B60 promises 24GB of VRAM per card, the B50 is this weird inbetweener, filling the low TDP niche with decent VRAM, I'd use 2 of them for inference if they were $100 cheaper, otherwise wait for B60.
>>106519018They can spin the GPU division into a separate company assuming they can actually sell units.
>>106522167>idles at <0.5ยข/hthe horror
>>106519229stop manspaining, Intel knows what it is doing
>>106519229probably just a racist who doesn't like GPUs made by brown people
>>106518987What's the gotcha part? Bad at video games? Can I use it on an older 9th gen intel platform with pcie 3?How does it compare to 750ti?
>>106524422The gotcha is that you're a bitch and need to upgrade your ewaste hardware.These cards will technically work ok on ewaste machines, but even first gen Alchemist Arcs need resizable BAR (you probably don't know how to modify the bios to enable it in unsupported boards) and modern cpus (aka at least new enough to not be stuck in the 14nm+++++++++++ 2c4t/4c4t/4c8t i3/i5/i7 era) to get the full performance out of the cards.An A380 is "about" the performance of a 1660. This newer card is going to be far better, but it's weaker than the B580 because it's not a gaming card.
>>106524422>What's the gotcha part?It's never in stock, the one I want isn't anyway.
>>106518987>>$350Where?
>>106518987>no PCIe power needed>low profileWhat is the point of this? You take a miserable hit to performance and especially to price:performance, and for what? To save a few litres?If the idea is to upgrade an old office machine: All the mini cards I've seen are either so shit that there's barely any point compared to a recent APU, or they're so overpriced that they wipe out any saving from not having to buy a PSU and case. There seems to be no in-between.
>>106524116>Goy>Poo>Unit
>>106518987Sriov status? This would be a nice budget card for a virtual machine rig/proxmox server.
>>106525731>If the idea is to upgrade an old office machine: All the mini cards I've seen are either so shit that there's barely any point compared to a recent APU,Are you retarded?That's a rhetorical question, it answers itself.>upgrade an old office machine>recent APUStop being a fucking retard in public, have some fucking humility.
>>106518987Can it do local AI stuff or do I still need an nvidia gpu for that?
>>106525823The benchmarks and reviews I all saw say it's coming Q4, likely whenever they finally shuffle B60 out the door.>>106524837Why don't Americans just import from other nations that have stock? I don't get it, we're flush with intel GPUs. I saw shit constantly about B580 shortages and they were in stock here the entire time.Shit, we still have BNIB A770 and most of the Alchemist line too in some form of another.
>>106526018>Can it do local AI stuff or do I still need an nvidia gpu for that?That's part of their pitch, it won't crunch compute or be blazing fast but it will be efficient for what it puts out. It's 70W/16GB for $350. A770 would be a bit cheaper but 200W I think, 9060 XT is $350 when it's at MSRP for 170W TDP.You're buying size/convenience with this. The biggest crutch is the x8 lanes but it's not that huge a nerf.
>>106526008I guess if you already have said old office machine and want to put a 1050-tier card in there, fine. The scenario I had in mind was the people who buy an old optiplex SFF with the intent of upgrading it.The card in the OP doesn't seem to be very appealing in either scenario. It's way too expensive for a super-budget optiplex setup but also really weak compared to what you can get for a few more litres and an extra hundred watts.
>>106526018Local LLMs and other tools approved by Intel R TM AI department. Outside 99% it will not work.
