Alpine Linux is a meme. Since is uses musl, have fun not having any binary software distributed for Linux work.
>>106520325If your software doesn't build cleanly with musl it's worthless spaghetti garbage anyway.
>>106520351>buildain't nobody got time for that shit
>>106520325>Alpine Linux is a meme.yes>Since [it] uses musl,yes and no>have fun not having any binary software distributed for Linux work.>binary softwarelinux never breaks abi retard. even for proprietary slop, which i bet is what you're referring to, you can still run stuff with the non-system-libc easily. but you're probably a retard, and a jeet one at that. and this is "yet another jeet filtered" thread which comprises most of /g/ these days.there are meme-ish aspects to alpine. this is not one of them.
>>106520515>muh retards>muh jeets
>>106520325Whatever you say Rajeesh
>>106520325they are anti xlibre so they self-reported themselves as woke faggots to me so I don't need to consider them
>>106520805a tranny ex-packager did, not the project leadership
The only distro that makes linux bearable to use.
>first threatened to pursue CoC against anyone who mentioned XLibre>now nuked X11 out of next stable releaseIs Gentoo the only non-meme musl distro?
>>106520805I'm glad that tranny outed them, made me switch my home server to FreeBSD, best decision I ever made.
>>106521003isnt it on the security team?
>>106521003>ex-packagerhttps://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/ariadne>5 days ago Doesn't seem so>>106521465He is, seems to be damage control post>Ariadne Conill is an Alpine Linux TSC member
>>106521225wrong>>106521465no>>106521515https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/groups/team/TSC/-/group_members
>>106520325That's not how that works. You do know that a lot of binary software for Linux is using statically compiled Musl libc, right?It's only glibc software that cannot be properly compiled statically that won't work and that's fine because you can just run that in a Debian chroot or container or whatever or use a Flatpak for desktop software.
>>106521531>wronghttps://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Release_Notes_for_Alpine_3.22.0>The X11 session for KDE Plasma has been removed. If you had plasma-workspace-x11 installed make sure to remove it from /etc/apk/world
>>106521225Alpine is working on Wayback to provide an Xorg Server on top of Wayland. With that in mind, it doesn't make sense for them to package any X11 environments that also support Wayland because running Plasma's X11 environment on top of Wayland when it already has native Wayland support would be the most brain-dead thing ever.
>>106521550>>>now nuked X11 out of next stable release>The X11 session for KDE Plasma has been removed.it's not for ideological reasons like you implied, either
Holy fuck, actual damage control
>>106521515I'm surprised the tranny hasn't campaigned against hyprland (yet)That's typically the new canary for shitheads who pursue pointless culture war drama> new "technical steering commitee"> new "council"oh no, is it over?
>>106521584cope more, alpine won despite of and thanks to the troon
>>106521587alpine is apolitical no matter how much you cope and seethehttps://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/edge/community/x86_64/hyprland
>>106520325could say the same about any userland.binary compat is never guaranteed.
>>106520536he's right though. no one stops you from using umu or a custom wine build.
>>106521597Why are you linking the package to me? I already said that isn't the case (yet).Wipe the froth from your mouth for a second and actually read what you are replying to.
>>106521589won what?
>>106520805>anti xlibreeveryone with a brain is anti xlibre.it's a complete joke.
>>106521614you lost.
> chuds angry that alpine took a stand against fascistsyou lost, incels
>>106521633lost what? if you know what you're talking about you should have no problem elaborating
>>106521649>against fascistsno, they just reject shit insecure code that doesn't work.why do you retards keep adding politics to it?
>>106521652alpine won.
>>106521662Post insecure, faulty code.
>>106521565>Alpine is working on Waybackhttps://github.com/kaniini/waybackHmmm, i wonder who is kaniinihttps://github.com/kaniini/> Ariadne Conill Good to know he is not ex-packager and represents Alpine after all
>>106521670thanks for proving my point
>>106521662fighting fascists and transphobes is not political and not an opinion
>>106521679he did step away from packaging to focus on his corporate distro for a time
>>106521678>misues pointer to a buffer>assumes sizeof can recover allocation length of an array decay>amateur tier "safe" wrappers over libc methods that just null check>xor's some valuesinstead of exponentiation because he didn't know what ^ did.anon, kys.
>>106521685proving that alpine won bigly
>>106521702thats not code
>>1065217125 users isnt winning
>>106521702>>amateur tier "safe" wrappers over libc methods that just null checkWhy would anyone even do that? Obviously, someone is worried about the quality of their libc implementation but at that point just give up. If your libc isn't perfect then you're already cooked.
>>106521823you lost
>>106521835it has nothing to do with libc and more just general sensibility and provenance of your data.you can't just call strlen on some random string (that may be null). it is simply retarded. (arguable anyone should use it at all, but that's another complaint.
>>106521840i won, linux lost
>>106521853Isn't that why people use strnlen instead? If you don't know the length of your string then you are kind of fucked.
>>106521896Yep, the man page for strlen even says as much:NOTES In cases where the input buffer may not contain a terminating null byte, strnlen(3) should be used instead.
NOTES In cases where the input buffer may not contain a terminating null byte, strnlen(3) should be used instead.
>>106521912we use they/them pages now bigot
>>106521859you lost, linux lost, alpine won
>>106522019say it again
>>106522049alpine won, linux lost, you lost
Alpine trannies lost
>>106520325is norwegian gupsym with alpine?mush moo tcp ping
>>106520325No idea where the hate comes from. It's a comfy distro for minimalists. None of the Debian and Fedora derivatives enabled me to get boot time down to 8 seconds on a 7 year old laptop.glibc binaries run fine with gcompat or, if you must, Flatpak. That is if your binary blob isn't statically linked anyway.Also, kinda nice to use an init system that a human can understand in a day, rather than choking on the systemD.
>>106522150this.alpine won.
>>106522085sisters, our response?
I have no idea what musl is. As a developer or architect it is my job to say that I used something that is industry standard to not be potentially liable. THAT is the only reason why Alpine is used for production containers. I could not care less if it is slower 2, 5 or 7 times than some other option. Also, the time spent inside a container is typically nothing compared to the network time or first-load, which to improve requires more thinking than just choosing betweean A and B.
>>106522085alpine won, musl won, hardened_malloc won, rust lost, blog trannies lost
>>106520325> what is docker?
>>106520353>8c/16t laptop>8c/16t desktopSure I do
>>106522393alpine won a neovagina, congrats now go dilate troon
>>106524660a fucking fairy incoming
>>106524660you lost, change your diaper
>>106520325It's meme because its run by mentally ill tranny and activist.
>>106525086wrong.alpine won.
>>106521452>best decision I ever made.Are you really such a loser that changing a server OS is the best decision you have ever made? I think I'd kill myself.
>>106520325there are so many ways to pick on alpine and musl is the one you went with? really? lol you're a tech illiterate jeetard. I bet you've never actually used alpine much like you've never actually used a woman's pussy. just use libc.
>>106520325Isn’t this what steam os is so it;l be the most widely deployed client linux distribution in the world?
>>106525782no
>>106521587Whats the deal with Hyprland? Is it transphobic? I haven’t tried it yet.