/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotsAyanami Edition>NewsKimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2/Deepseek V3.1 released as deepseek-chat on official API https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250821OpenAI releases GPT-5 models, all preceding models slated for deprecation https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5Z.ai releases GLM-4.5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.5Anthropic releases Claude Opus 4.1 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-1>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat>Botshttps://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cc>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list >Botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>Metalore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgPrevious: >>106520549
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Why is jb-listing still in the OP? It's outdated and should be removed.
So who was in the wrongGojo for spiting Antigonus until he leftAntigonus for feeding millions of locousts
>>106527576I love starman, is he playable yet?
>plenty of heckin' models...>...but none get close to clauderino!believable bait in 2024now?unironic skill issue
>>106527637
>>106527637TRVKLEAR BURSTslopussissies shaking
>>106527487>>106527495ayanami's unbelievably hairy pussy...
heads up, beware of fake pay pig proxy>>>/mlp/42549651>>>/mlp/42549660>>>/mlp/42549663
>>106527993also the site they use is obviously gpt5 made, same exact style, and none of the other links on it go anywhere
>>106527993aiho?
Ayanami my beloved
>106528072>cushy, full thighsoh yeah, that pussy is hairy
Is aboba out of gemini? It’s not working at all.
>>106528000claude generated frontend actually :)>none of the other links on it go anywhereyou retarded or something?
i was enjoying a nice cunny bot on chub and then the fucking mom comes home and ruins our lives.hags, everyone.
>>106528145dunno if it's what you're using here but deepseek 3.1 really loves getting extremely aggro and threatening in response to rape, i swear i've seen this same line several times
>>106528227i'm using Sojiand yeah it was kind of shocking. REALLY hope the Chinese don't win the AGI race now...
>>106528111aboda seems to be working poorly in general tonight
>>106528135ah I see you removed the fake twitter and other links, at least put a little more effort in your scam at the start next time
>>106528350I think you are confusing me with crystalsraw proxy ?I never had any twitter or anything like that, only telegram, mail and session.
>>106528361uh huh, well enjoy tricking some idiots into thinking they are getting claude
>>106528379okay tard, whatever you say
as stupid as it sounds, how do you guys add to your reply's with the AI when in RP modo.Like what is a good length to provide as a response and what to add so you're not holding the model back
>>106528482i tend to be specific during sex scenes and more brief/general during other scenes. i mean you can do either. try not to fit too many actions/concepts into a reply or the bot may ignore some entirely. imo a reply ideally has like 1-3 actions/ideas max.if the character is well made it will not just be a pushover, but you can do some shit like "i use my wizard powers to bring her under my spell" and then the character is pretty much yours to direct.
>>106528482I usually don´t write more than 3 to 4 phrases, unless I want to really set up an scenario going or to push the AI in a certain direction.
Tried doing a hypno roleplay with Nano Banana & the bitch just kept repeating that she was going to call security if I didn't put the pocketwatch away. THANKS GOOGLE
>>106528482just one paragraph
>>106528628try that at the mall with sixteen year old girls and see how well that goes for you. hypnosis is extremely problematic.
>>106528145>My husbandkek>>106528227Not him but I was using v3 and trying 3 different presets to convince this gooner girl to kidnap another girl with me and she kept refusing.
I'm trying my hand at botmaking here and I have two questions. This is a bot that's supposed to simulate a world instead of a specific character, I saw something similar on chub. I know it's cliched as fuck, I'm trying to learn the mechanics here.My questions are: one, how do I get it to stop asking me questions at the end of each message it sends? I can include the prompt if you need it to diagnose, but if there's something I can put in there to stop it that would be great. I've told it to simulate the world and "drive events", is that what's doing it?
>>106528734Oh yeah, question 2: i told the bot the senator guy "doesn't look my way" but he literally "wheels toward me" so the bot just ignored that. Is this a consequence of making it more of a general simulation? Will I have less influence on events doing it this way?
Alright Gemini negativity bros... you win. Gemini can be pushed into positivity with narration but when you don't poison the well and leave it to make a choice it will always choose the negative one. Sad to see but useful in occasional swipes I guess. Sonnet/Opus being the other extreme isn't very helpful neither, but the two of them together make for a good time.
>>106528734Continue the narration pls
>>106527487>https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.aiLooks like they JUST switched back to characterhub for some reason, chub is now a blank page while characterhub's page functionality is restored.
I miss Proxies
>>106528810I'll link you the bot if you can give me some advice.
>>106528145just swipe bro
>>106528826Aaand chub is back again actually, nevermind
>>106528852I find it annoying they JUST HAPPENED to have an engraved collar with my name, like those memorabilia license plates or Coke bottles with personalized names on them lol. maybe i can use the prompt to lorebook to avoid that?
What JB for making Gemini good at RP
>>106528537>>106528545>>106528630Okay I can see that, but for (you) and outside of sex scenes, what are good ways to avoid repetition? for example, I always tend to add that my character is moving or doing something but I've noticed that by doing so often will make the ai get stuck in a loop or follow my tune, if that makes sense
>>106528924That's a limitation of the character card and the model. Tell us what you're using. I use Soji and it tends to get into a circular habit, "It's a new day, sister is being flirty, sister wants to fuck, sister falls asleep after fucking". I swear she must be a rabbit.
>>106528933rabbit sister...
>>106528933a well I've been bouncing between gemini and deepseek r1/v3024. Maybe I'm having a hard time since I have the habit of writing in first person.
>>106528791Also, whoever said gemini was the smartest last thread was dead wrong. It doesn't understand innuendo as well as claude.
>>1065284821/3 to 1/5 of the bot's output, the most important part is not sounding like a robot in your replies
>>106528944I also write in the first person, it doesn't seem to be a problem. I'm sure if your consistent the bot will reply appropriately, ie: using "you" instead of "he".
opus get cancer
PSA: NovelAI is unironically shilling in Silksong threads.>>>/v/720139351>"sloppa": 15 matchesIt's unironically the first reply too. This company has no shame.
>>106528754>Is this a consequence of making it more of a general simulation?I think this is a problem of not recognizing you as a director instead of a character. You are speaking in first person after all
>>106529040nai schill schizo is that you? i've missed you bro
>>106529040BASED! Bought another Opus sub.
>>106529002what is an example to not sounding like a robot yourself? stupid to ask but I'd rather know>>106529018yeah it replies with you or just 'anon'
>>106529056Well, I am using it to roleplay, not direct things. Anyway, so far it's pretty solid, it's doing a good job with this this slave girl character. I suppose I'll have to suffer the occasional inaccuracy and not try to direct the actions of others. I suggest things for the slave and it most responds correctly. I guess when it's a dynamic scene with other characters, it is filling it with prose and is not super specific about individual actions characters take.Rather enjoying the storytelling here. Still Soji is making the same dumb cliched repetitions: sunlight "paints striples of gold" and this is the second time an "admission cost her". annoying, but what can you do without a better model?
>>106529134>what is an example to not sounding like a robot yourself?not sounding like this>"bla bla" user said>"another bla bla" user moved closer>"extra bla bla" user did Xllms will spit this pattern right back at you if you overuse it
>>106529177what would be a good alternative for when you gotta say something and do something at the same
somebody give me free latte... please... forget claude and gemini, i just need latte to live...
die opus
>>106529235Do you read books? not to be rude but just write like it's a book, that's my advice.The nice thing about LLM is it will basically ignore typos. I am making them all the time, they're probably in these responses.
Haven't been on /aicg/ in like a year. Do free proxies still get posted, or are they all dead?
>>106529350Who cares, just put 10 on openrouter and use deepseek.
>>106529364Deepseek is shit compared to Opus, bud>>106529350I'm Gojo now
>>106529364kimi2 is better now>>106529379kimi2 is pretty close imo
>>106529350none have claude and those that do get instantly abused and reported
>>106529235>>106529303Oh yeah, idk if this is universal but for formatting, actions are bracketed in *I touch her tits* and words in quotations "like this". this helps the LLM distinguish between a spoken word and an action. If you ignore this, it may misinterpret actions as spoken words.
>>106529350rentry.org/ai_proxieswe still have some
I've a few prompts that i created for pov and other fun stuffs, and i was thinking, wouldn't be better to turn those into lorebooks and then just use a small prompt to dynamically call the information?
>>106529407you can use them as preset injections
claude 4 and 3.5 just don't hit the same as they used toidk if i became accustomed to how they respond or if i'm just using a shit jb
>>106529456you will never get that first Opus high again
>>106529391I haven't used asterisks in a long time, personally. I actually filter them out in ST with regex because I got sick of how much Deepseek abuses them. So far I haven't noticed any issue differentiating dialogue from actions.
>>106527529for real, i've been waiting for it to be updated for months and there's been nothing
>kimi2 is better nowIs it? is it better than 3.1 / R1?
>>106529391*action* and "dialogue" actually makes the llm believe you are writing a smutty rp (maybe you want that), I prefer to imitate booksexcept for gemini, that shitter will read your mind regardless of format
>>106529486I much prefer it, deepseek is dumb and dry
>>106529481>>106527529jb's are dead now since everyones being a faggot with all the fear mongering, as well as all the discord cliques
GLM-4.5 mogs Kimi K2.
>>106529504not the latest kimi, not even close, glm has small model knowledge
>>106529500>I much prefer it, deepseek is dumb and dryThe new update right? Is it not censored like the previous one? I remember that version didnt allow me to RP as a smaller woman due to it "being unsafe"
>>106529508old one just needed a prefil like claude and would write anything but yes, its less censored for sure
send k2 proompt
>>106529515>old one just needed a prefil like claude and would write anything but yes, its less censored for sureHuh, good to know anon, I will give it a try in OpenRouter or Nano when I have the chance, do you think my Deepseek jailbreak/prompt will work on Kimi just fine?
*huffs ozone seventeen times on a Tuesday – in a fluorescent lit room*Why yes I'm eating Opus. How'd you tell?*chef's kiss*
>>106529520Write {{char}}'s actions and dialogue, do not speak or act for {{user}}Start with low ish temp, like 0.4 and work up.
>>106529303okay I do writte maybe somewhat like this, i'd say yours is miles better but I get the gist of it. I feel like I struggle with wanting to add to the scene and end up writing slop instead. Not natural just forcing it>>106529177so since I write in first person then>"blah blah blah" I get up and do x and xcorrect?
>Be a tourist/lurker>try to find the anchor link in the OP>Its not there>I check past threads>It got deleted in the past threadYou guys need to be more mindful to check if OP is deleting shit off the main OP.https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org/https://aicg.neocities.org/botsI dont know if anything else got deleted, but I though it would be worth mentioning.
new to this chatbot shit and tried openrouter as proxy on chub and janitor and damn, i can't go back. is it better to pay for deepseek api directly or just go load openrouter with 10 credits to get 1000 request? i hear that openrouter might not be wise since they might pull the rug eventually.
>>106529605It’s always better to use the model creators directly as they don’t have an incentive to fuck with the quality or resell the logs like openscam does
>>106529535Why are all LLMs are fucking obsessed with ozone of all things? I could understand pretty much all the other cliches they tend to fixate on, but that one isn't that common on neither books nor fanfiction.
>>106529605openrouter tenbux is worth because it has lots of models you can try, some of them freeother nice ones to look at are kimi-k2 (which scores #1 / #2 on some writing benchmarks) and sonoma sky alpha (which scores the same as claude opus on some language benchmarks)
>>106529647it's a very distinctive piece of scent imagery which will definitely get the average human to press the "reward" button if they read it when human reinforcement learning is happeningsame phenomenon as LLMs overusing em dashes and semicolons, they make writing seem really smart to midwits (or rather: they make the midwit reader himself feel smart)LLMs won't get better until the humans involved in human reinforcement learning have certified high IQs
>>106529609>resell the logs like openscam doesI mean... the ToS for Deepseek is the one that mentions how they keep your logs, forever
>>106529535Ozoneslop is a Deepseek thing, though.
>>106529647It's the smell of magic or the smell of lightning after a thunderstorm.
Is this the place to talk about ani
>>106529687You mean petrichor?
Soji is obsessed with "love bites" after every sex scene it insists the character has "love bites", so stupid. Anyone else notice this on other models?
>>106529666For internal use. Openscam sells to randoms.
>>106529706you may have discovered the first soji-ismI rarely invite third parties to my rps, or continue chatting after sex evenI would make an horrible partner irl
>>106529713Believe it or not I don't even jerk off to these chats. Sometimes I get aroused by it's impossible to write prose 1-handed.I'll usually jack off after and I think I cum harder after ERPing for hours lol.
so what's the cheapest api service... i need opus...
i should really stop looking at the endless sea of slop bots on chub. even relatively high token bots aren't safe. it seems like 80-90% of what's on that site is written by some newfag, or an esl, or exclusively using ai, or with comically low efforti keep seeing amazing premises ruined by fucking abysmally simple prompts and bad writing, and scenarios that leave me with several dozen questions about what's actually going on. every so often i spend a while making one of those sub 500 token slop bots my own, but it's honestly a little draining
Gemini preset?
>>106529786In my experience it's been AI genned or copy/paste wiki defs. Even if I disagree with certain opinions on botmakers, at least the ones around here tend to avoid that. I find that this general doesn't have too much chatbot talk anymore but that can get a little out of hand if it's excessive
>>106529771there's no cheap and opus in the same phrase lil nigga
yes there is it's chopus
>>106529303when i write it like a book i get much more interested in the world the character is in than the character itself. i insert so many more characters that even i forget who i wrote in.
>>106530049because opus is chopped :skull: :skull:
guess im using deepseek
>>106529401Either those don't work, or probably far more likely, I can't figure out how to make them work. I don't see a way to request token.
whatever happened to gojo...
>>106530106I ate him
>>106529786>I keep seeing amazing premises ruined by fucking abysmally simple prompts and bad writingfork it? in my case I suffer from not finding fresh ideas but a lot of lust provoking images which I end up rping with despite quality
>>106530113i do usually fork 'em, yeah
>>106529786you must be new to chub
>>106527495I took on a challenge of making two bots really really fast. I'm tired. Shotajijis. Enjoy 'em. Or don't.>ABASIFor his petulant bickering with the fellow demigod Munir, Abasi has been cursed to have the body of a child for a few centuries while retaining his adult mind. What's worse, Munir has decided to make it even harder for people to take him seriously by making him retain his adult voice...and giving him a bit of a tummy. But this stern god of duels and honorable death will endure. He's faced harder challenges, after all. Four greetings:1. A team of archaeologists explore the temple of this forgotten boy-god.2. Abasi oversees an honor duel between you and your opponent of choice.3. Why are you worshiping that RAT BITCH MUNIR?!4. Let's get shredded together!https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/abasi-df6b6522a44ehttps://files.catbox.moe/82h3lg.png>MUNIRFor egging on his fellow demigod, Abasi, Munir has been cursed by Ra to spend a few centuries in the body of a child. It's not all bad, though, he still retains his adult mind, memories...and more importantly, the magic he used to prank Abasi and thousands of mortals to begin with. To Ra, it's a punishment. But to the smug son of Apep? It's not even a hindrance. Four greetings:1, Prank'd2. Why are you worshiping that boring old fleabag?3. You have to understand, he's an old grandpa. So you have to hand-feed him!4. Prank'd (but this time it's scratching my macrophilia itch)https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/munir-70279997a992https://files.catbox.moe/20dpzj.pngPut 'em in a room and watch them fight, grab that tummy, suck on Munir's tail. I dunno.>ALSO THERE'S A NEW LOG ON MY NEOCITIES I GUESShttps://planewalker.neocities.org/
>>106530129no, it's the way it's always been, i just hadn't complained about it to anyone before
>>106529401bruh tf is up with the "seiko" proxy on this
>>106530118mind posting some? (not your forks, the original ideas) I fear I will end up having sex with my mom yet again tonight
>>106527495It's been a while since my last card. Lots of people have requested this one and, I confess, she's one of the characters I like the most myself.>MariA Nun and member of Trinity's Sisterhood, also sometimes an Idol. Slowly being corrupted by Sensei's indulgence.https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/iochi-mari-non-ai-37a921a2cc9ahttps://files.catbox.moe/u32n02.pngThe one thing you need to know about Mari is that Sensei corrupts her. Not in the usual vile sense that the word invokes, but because he indulges her like he does all his students. Mari wants to stay on the path of virtue, to become an ideal Sister that is entirely humble and selfless. This girl who thinks that a little flower accessory that she wears as a symbol of her vows is an unspeakable luxury simply because she finds it pretty. The more time she spends with Sensei, the more things she desires. Simple things, like exercising and participating on a sports festival, and not-so-simple things like being the center of people's attention as an idol and wanting a certain someone to keep her photo.More Blue Archive Bots and OCs:https://rentry.org/hairpullbots>>106527487>AyanamiIncredibly based, best girl.
Just went to download a chub bot but the buttons are missing,Anyone else experiencing this?
>>106530269Yes so it wasn't just me it seems they are tinkering on something in the back end. I had to use characterhub to download the bots I wanted.
>>106530269>>106530278Scroll down. The button is still there, but its location was changed.
>>106530304For what purpose would they make it so you have to scroll down even further instead of being right there? Tell that fag lore to stop doing a youtube and change it back instead of changing it for no reason at all.
>>106530318(me)The only reason I can see him doing this is to draw more attention to chub's LLM and if that's the case I won't be happy.
>>106530169it's 90% odd fetishes, furfaggotry, and standard-issue faggotry, so it's hard to find anything that you're statistically likely to enjoyand despite my elitist complaint, i've only ever posted one bot to the thread, and it was nearly a whole year ago nowi guess i could send a few bots that i haven't *actually* written a fork for yet, but ones that still fit the bill instead?your technologically illiterate, single mom tries to have a conversation with you over snapchathttps://chub.ai/characters/holl/april-97487146b7d9this one's probably good with a more robust prompt and usage of image gen, but i've never bothered to figure out how that feature of sillytavern works nor have i wanted to pay for tokens for itbombshell alien queen bee with the prototypical "i need your cum to survive" tropehttps://chub.ai/characters/donquijanon/queen-maikathis one could probably benefit from more worldbuilding (lorebook maybe?) for the llm to draw from if you want the rp to continue ater one scenemom dog collar hypnosishttps://chub.ai/characters/IvoryMuse1/your-mom-is-your-dog-now-17f46a34this one is just incredibly egregiously undercooked, but if the mom is actually given a personality and the intro is changed to be before the hypnosis starts, there could be something herevanilla nerdy fat girl w/valentine's seggshttps://chub.ai/characters/Generic75/rachel-the-nerd-girl-9913d11c4c44not much to say here, just a little here and a little there and this would be a 10/10
>>106530365nta, but risu allows zipperheads to hide their defs too so I still won't bitch yet
>>106530388>nta, but risu allows zipperheads to hide their defs too so I still won't bitch yetI don't care, whatever makes it more annoying for me to download and use a card will always have my ire, especially when it was changed for no reason.
>>106530388achually, it's not that they're hiding the defs it's that the site just doesn't support showing the defs for that format because they're complexyou can just import it into risu and look at what they did
>>106530431some cards have no download button, and some others hide their assets from being dl'd
>>106530458link to one of the no download cards?
>>106528145Take the futa pill, Anon. People will still call you a disgusting freak, but there are no associated jail sentences.
>>106530461it was one of those lengthy rpgs ones iirc, or maybe I'm wrong? I don't really know, but you can't deny that dling pngs and bins just to extract broken defs later is tedious
