>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helpedGuide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAMEDual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision (Compact), Antec C8>CPUBudget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/XGaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700XWorkstation: 9950X, 9900XPremium: 9950X3DIntel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability, 14400F budget, 14600K midrange)>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-6, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change)>MOTHERBOARDAvoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580 (for new builds), used cardMidrange: 9060 XT 16GB, 5060 TI 16GBHigh-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: 9070 XT, 5070 Ti Workstation: 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: KTC H24T09P, ASUS XG259CS1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), XG32UCWMG (WOLED)>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)Prev: >>106519836
>News & RumorsRTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.>OmissionsRTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).>Product NoticePNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplieshttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+SuppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviewshttps://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviewshttps://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/
>>106528809sex dungeon house lol
>>106528820The only thing getting fucked is your spine by that gaymen chair
>monitor arrives tomorrow and build completejust need a 100x100 vesa mount arm
>>106528955Nice lighting
>>106528980thanks amigo
>MFW I wasn't on this board in time to participate in the daily brand war
any news update about the Windows SSD genocide?
>>106529033the japanese tester that found the SSD bug was using beta firmware on his SSDs, it was a nothingburger
I hate OLEDs became standard
>>106529027>warThere is no war, only cope.AMD's even pulling the hardware discounts and "wait for next gen" meme with their MI- data center GPUs.
>>106529145still not buying it
>>106529151nobody cares about datacenters, only about linux compatibility and going with the based brand which nvidia isn't
>>106529152People in previous thread told me that some monitors even have proximity sensor lol. Because it's OLED lol.
>>106528955needs more anime character figures
>>106529166Based
>>106528809>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcpCMhrpI-c>his gpu costs less than an ssd
>>106529218
>>106529166That's not where the sales & dev support are being prioritized.Valve's leading Proton because they need a platform to secure their 30% digital sales cut.
>>106529172>Sit on couch>monitor refuses to workThis is like when Xbox wanted you to say COCA COLA!
>>106528809I currently have these 4 usb ports in use (mouse, keyboard, webcam, usb-sound card, dongle for controller) and a display port in use.My current system specs are:>gigabyte b550m ds3h r2>ryzen 5 5500gt>wavlink ax5400 pcie wifi I saw that GMKTek k6 Ryzen 7 7840HS has both better cpu/igpu performance, but it is a minipc, Will I be limited in some way if I sell my current system and go for the mini pc in terms of ports, wifi, and possibly a second monitor in the future?
>>106528829thats a car seat op
>>106529262>I currently have these 4 usb ports in use (mouse, keyboard, webcam, usb-sound card, dongle for controller)That's 5, unless the keyboard or other device has USB passthrough.USB ports for that mini PC is 1x USB 2.0, 3x USB 3.0, 1x USB4.0 (Type-C)Display won't be an issue (triple monitor support).https://manuals.plus/asin/B0CQ4WBV8L
how bad are the neat looking lian li fans?My build will be completely cooled by an external rad so I just need a basic bitch airflow to keep the memory and vrm cool. I won't run them over 20% ever.
Is there a minisforum alternative that isn't Chinese spyware?
>>106528809To preface, assume I am completely retarded. After buying 3 work laptops over the past 10 years I'm fed up with the garbage. I want to create something future proof and found a lot of the longest lasting laptops of old had a massive amount of modularity not seen in modern builds.I'm looking for a modern laptop motherboard with a socketed CPU that can be drastically upgraded that way it can be "future proofed" to a greater extent and want to know if I came up with the right board.What I'm looking for:>Must have a modern CPU socket that has a wide range of highly advanced CPU's.>needs to be thin enough to fit into a sleeper PC case. (roughly 8 x 8 x 1.5 inches)>Compatible with NVME M.2>Has a good amount of RAM and storage potentialWhat I found:X600tm-itx>96GB of DDR5 SO-DIMM RAM>two M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 x4 slots>6.7 x 6.7 x 1.7inIf I did everything right, would this board have a long life?
>>106529590Do you know about Framework laptops? It's an upgradeable product.https://frame.work/laptop16
>>106529510Provided you're not running HEPA filters, case fans don't have to do much to be effective. They'll be fine.
>>106529604I've seen it, it's a really neat product. What kills it for me is the lack of a CPU socket. It's been my bottleneck on nearly every PC Storage is cheap, RAM is limited put replicable. Every board on the market is soldered. Unless your a hardware engineer there is no upgrading it period. You need a whole new board and at that point, most people buy a new laptop.To put it into perspective:Thinkpad l440Made in 2013 (12 years)4th gen Haswell sockets top at a i7-4910MQCurrently a mid range CPU, which still runs windows 10 well. An AM5 socket means when the Ryzen 7 9800X3D eventually drops down in price and even better CPU's come out I can just swap them in. Removing that bottle neck and potentially making the RAM the limiting factor. The only downside I could see was the 65W TDP draw. Which could potentially limit the range of future CPU's the board might see.Outside of that I can choose my own battery type and screen. All of which I'd maximize modularity with.
>>106529708>Ryzen 7 9800X3D>$400 >for an 8 core CPUAnd that made for the nvidioits paypiggies
>>106529708>The only downside I could see was the 65W TDP draw.You should check the supported CPU list; a 9800X3D isn't available.The options appear limited to CPUs with an official Default TDP of 65W.https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X600TM-ITX/index.asp#CPU
Does /pcbg/ approve of the North and wood in general?
>>106529765thats quintessentially reddit combo.
>>106529736It's all relative. Eventually CPU prices will drop and it will end up on the chopping block like every other "gaming performance" CPU before it. The end result is that it's fairly fast. Even if I get a slower CPU I can wait till prices come down to get a better boost rather then tossing the entire motherboard.>>106529750Good save, thank you. Seeing the list their still very good CPU's for the current year. What's the scope for 65 watt in the future? I'd assume they'd still go pretty far as it looks like developments still moving forward into mobile and lighter devices. As long as the power standards still good they will keep pumping out better CPU's. I understand eventually the format will see it's end with the next gen of CPU but I think it's a decent investment over the traditional BGA or LGA soldered CPU's.
>>106529765build quality is a downgrade though
>>106529510Look up Lian Li fan rattle
>>106529816In the end I'm looking for the best Mini-ITX (or other thin type) motherboard with the longest potential longevity. Any ideas?
>>106529765Build quality is a problem like other anon mentionedIt's made more like a cheapo meshify than a premium define R case
Dumb question, but other than saving a few bucks on price, is there any reason whatsoever to get a PSU with a lower wattage?Looking at a dropdown list with 650, 750, 850 W that only add a few bucks per stepAlso when do I need 850 W? Top end GFX card?
>>106529949https://www.inet.se/produkt/6906674/seasonic-core-gx-v2-850w-atx-3-1Looking at this one btw
>>106529949>is there any reason whatsoever to get a PSU with a lower wattage?you can get better power efficiency when you power balance your PSU (not very important)>Also when do I need 850 W? Top end GFX card?dependent on total computer configuration, PCPartPicker has a neat tool that estimates total power draw depending on the parts you've selected
Why the fuck is a ddr4 32gb sticks so damn expensive?
>Want to build an itx>Sees the price of a 64gb per module ram>Want to build an atx
Can Corsair 5200MT DDR5 CL40 be overclocked or is it fine as-is for gaming? Assuming a heavy GPU bottleneck where the GPU is pegged at 95-100% usage while the CPU stays between 30-60%.I asked AI (yeah, I know) and it told me it can reach 5600MT CL38 with a simple bios tweak.
>>106530277don't mess with ram OC if you don't want to put in the time to validate its stability. unstable ram corrupts files and OSes
>>106530299Alright guess I'll use it as-is and maybe upgrade to 2x32 6000MT CL30, or whatever is the new standard, in 3-5 years.
I was thinking of getting the corsair rm1000x shift since my estimated wattage was 650whowever, the rm1200x shift is just a couple more dollarsis it ok to go for the slightly bigger psu?and what adds to the watt usage? like, what external/internal shit would add to it
>>106530332Is that the PCPP estimated wattage?
>>106529949No practical consumer reason. I don't know why they offer models in different wattages anymore. Just take the highest rated one unless it adds a lot onto the premium, which you state is not the case with whatever store you are looking at.
>>106528833AMD AMXI wonder who sponsors him
>>106520110The fans are actually fine. It turned out one of 8 pin cables after months just slowly vibrated up enough that it was being graized by the fan. You can see the mark on the cable even lol. I zip tied them both down now and no more noise :)
>>106530371yeah, the 650w estimated is from pcppshould I not trust it?
>>106530385>he did not believe in the holy cable management
Which monitor is best for gooning?
>>106530836The one found on the iPhone 17 pro max
>>106530836VR
>>106529765I liked it for 10 sec, but then I started to see everyone having the same kind of wood in their battlestation rooms. It looks disgusting and dated already.
>>106530448it generally overestimates power, like adding 30 watts for RAM which takes like 5 wattsbut thats better than underestimating
>>106530836Iphone with Grok's companion mode (Ani), enjoy gooning
Currently got my 6yr old build that's still using 16GB ramis it time to get 2x more 8gb sticks?
Those AMD X3D cover (out of copper), useful or not?Surely this will increase heat transfer with the cooling block?
>>106531367the stock lid is already 99% copper
>>106531367you mean replacing the IHS? might as well go full on delid at that point
the time has come that intel is probably gonna lose even the esports market https://x.com/HardwareUnboxed/status/1964535977185288631
>>106531481I'm shocked by the number of paid actors employed by amd
What's the next step in AMD's master plan? Will they actually offer competitive pricing in the GPU space?I don't feel like getting another Novidya GPU for my next upgrade (3060Ti right now).
>>106531524userbenchmark admin finally logged in at 4chan
>>106531540well the next card will be basicly gcn 2.0 so its prudent to wait till kepler starts leaking perfomance numbers
