Has AI plateau'd?Give it to me straight.
>>106530631Yes, hardware isn't improving in a rate where AI development can keep going at a paste it always has.
>>106530631Wait for Grok 5. Its gonna be released end of this year.
>>106530657And... it's going to be unaffected by diminishing returns, why exactly?
>>106530631It’s still improving, but the problem is that it doesn’t generate money. Everyone except for NVIDIA is operating at a loss.
No, but big corpo-ran AI looks like it's slowing down drastically. We'll need new architectures, or even to abandon the LLM framework for something better.
>>106530674>No, but yes
>>106530664Thats what they said about GPT4->5. But Grok 4 proved them wrong. Huge leaps were made. Grok 5 will be the true test of scaling.
>>106530685Still not explaining why
>>106530756Because the scaling hasnt stopped for xAI. It has only stopped for ChatGPT.
>>106530773>Because the scaling hasnt stopped for xAI.Elon propaganda.
>>106530792Consider yourself why you castrated yourself first
>>106530799rent free
>>106530799>>Consider yourself why you castrated yourself first>you have a different opinion then me this must mean you ether are a jew or trans.I have no idea what "castrated" is supposed to translate to but I am so tired of people like you.
We don't know. It seems we are reaching diminishing returns, but a new paradigm may be around the corner, given the alternative is the whole industry crashing down and maybe the Chinese dunking on the West given how hellbent they are on getting this done. AI is strategic now, so I guess there's plenty of room for surprise.
>>106530908not that retard but you don't know what castrated means?
>>106530934He's just tired, but he meant that something may be lost in translation due to the presence of undesirables in this God forsaken Mongolian basket case of a forum.
>>106530963in... translation? wut? We're all speaking English here
>>106530908>i castrated myself over difference in opinionkekYou will NEVER be a woman. You troons lost.
>>106530657Elon said 2 more weeks
>>106530631Graphene processorsNuclear batteries
>>106531614And in how many weeks? 2?
Interesting how all these "huge leaps" are only seen in marketing products and not in actual usage.
still literally never seen one of these monstrous "ai" models do anything useful
>>106531660They're great for learning things. I guess learning is just not something you do
>>106530668Why are they profitable from it?
>>106530631>Give it to me straight.nah sit on all fours and take a deep breath to let daddy in
Imagine the things the authorities will do with AI to frame those who speak out. This is why they want you to scan your face for accessing mature web sites. They could put you in a video of raping someone. It's quite scary. Anyone else worried about the future of AI?
>>106531704good morning saar, I too wish to know the needful to obtain dollar from AI saar
>>106532244>This is why they want you to scan your face for accessing mature web sites.Only if you are English or American. Remember the rest of the world doesn't fuck with that shit.
>>106530799good morning saar
>>106532311Other countries will all follow eventually. The UK is the test phase. You go outside? Your face is being captured thousands of times by cameras. Zoomers post thousands of photos of themselves every year to public social media. Fighting for privacy will mean you have something to hide when the masses accept this new way of life.
>>106532359The UK has a modern surveillance apparatus for more than 20 years now. Same for the US, but with more sophistication due to the big tech arm. These are outliers, and very hard to copy without the same level of investment in the tech sector.
>>106532359They won't even be this obvious about it in the future. It will be built into every CCTV across the country. There is barely anywhere in most UK towns and cities now without a camera capturing every street and open space.
>>106530631>Has AI plateau'd?Obviously. Even if you didn't see where it's all going watching them increase the parameter count and compute requirements by orders of magnitude for marginal gains in fake benchmarks, it's clear that they have absolutely no idea how to make their token predictors actually reason, complete tasks reliably, stop hallucinating, provide accurate information, admit it when they don't know something etc. They were waiting for these properties to magically emerge, but it's not happening no matter how much bloat they add.At the same time, they're completely invested in their failed assumptions and false promises to backpedal and rethink things fundamentally.
>>106532244Authorities dont need AI when they have media, journos, institutions pushing the WEF's tranny death cult propaganda. AND attacking anyone that disagrees with it as nazis. The mass of the population gets culled into propaganda and think they're real smart/rebellious by castrating themselves and advocating for censorship
>>106530631what the fuck is the source for that webm anyway?
>>106532471>picthat's not how AI works at all tho
>>106532491>that's not how AI works at all thoIt exactly depicts the core of "deep learning". Your fancy model is still a variation on that, with a computational flow that conforms to the pic.
>>106532491That's how training goes, in a rudimentary way
>>106530631No, industry leaders still predict we'll get AGI in 2027
>>106530987No we're not, some are speaking Indian english like the pajeet who said something about 'castrated' whatever the fuck the poo even means
>>106532552Wrong, and you don't know shit about programming
>>106532599...you seriously dont know that word?
>>106530631fuck no, that guys face looks retardedreminds me of said image
>>106532623the webm in the OP is not AI
>>106530664It's made by papi.
>>106532545Good. Can't wait for the bubble to burst.
>>106532648you are AI created by the government to cover up AI
>>106532478>skullfucked /pol/troon knows nothing about the subject, so it starts barking its favorite buzzwords and foaming at the mouthWhy even come here? You can do that back at your tard ballpit.
>>106530631Damn anon that's creepy as fuck XD
>>106532610>WrongAnd yet you are unable to point out anything specific that is "wrong" about it. You will fail to do so in your next niggermonkey post, for instance.>you don't know shit about programmingI know enough about programming to convert any neural net into exactly that structure. Seethe about it. :^)
>>106532679Malding tranny. You commies lost.
>>106530934>>106530987>>106532616SAAAARRRRRR GOOD MORNING SAAAAAAARRRR DO THE NEEDFUL
>>106532745Stop crying, just leave.
>>106531704Because NVIDIA doesn't sell AI, they sell shovels.
>>106532762Seethe more troon. Your commie ideology lost. The west is being reshaped to fix you troons
>>106530631Kind of yeah. It's gotten better at orchestrating tasks and holding a larger context window, but it's still retarded and still hallucinates the same shit over and over. Ask it to help install shit from the cli and it recommends package versions that don't exist despite having access to the Internet to go out and verify the versions and dependencies.
>>106530918>a new paradigm may be around the cornerCope
>>1065306854 to 5 was a decrease in almost every way that matters.
>>106530631In some measures it has plateau'd but that also doesnt mean its gonna stop advancingIts already at a place where it is a real threat to entry level jobs
>>106532782>no call me baste i want muh /pol/ echo chamberJust go, this isn't working out.
Transformer AI has.Until someone makes a better model, it will forever be fucking around with values that maybe give slightly better generation times, maybe beat a pointless benchmark and cost a mansion to do so.Deepseek was the only major change in recent times that resulted in a huge boost to generation speeds.Chain of Thought isn't revolutionary - half the fucking time the models ignore their steps, and I was doing that shit manually way back on Character AI, it's the same damn model going schizo with itself but automated.I can typically get better outputs WITHOUT the CoT being on, which is why ChatGPT5 sucks particularly bad due to its automatic mode switching. They really fucked up with it.Don't even get me started on AI Agents, most of the time they ignore their own fucking API calls or send back malformed shit, then have catastrophic breakdowns.
>>106532795>it's still retarded and still hallucinates the same shit over and overIt literally doesn't matter.If there is even a 0.01% chance that it could be wrong then it it useless because that means that all output needs to be validated for anything that matters.The core issue is that a machine can never be held accountable when it tells the button pusher monkeys running it to eat 500 grams of Tylenol instead of 500 milligrams and someone ends up dead from liver failure.Because of that it doesn't make a shit what AI can do, if it can't produce verifiably correct results 100% of the time then it will only ever be used for shit that doesn't actually matter. And news flash, shit that matters are typically the things people are actually willing to pay for. Your blogspam shit website doesn't matter, your stupid newsletter and spammy marketing materials don't matter, doctors matter, lawyers matter, engineers matter.
>>106532880Exactly. At least when the human tells you something patently wrong and retarded you can almost guarantee they won't come back 5 minutes later to suggest the exact same thing. And if they did you would just fire them instead of dedicating another power plant worth of energy to see if they become God.
>>1065328095 is better for me. But I suspect it's a result of them benchmaxing. So it's better for how I use it but less intelligent overall.
>>106532920The difference is, when the human tells you to use 2 inch nails instead of 6 inch nails and your house collapses, you can sue that human for damages and fix your house if you win.You have recourse.This is exactly why that judge told those lawyers who tried to use ChatGPT in the courtroom to fuck off and never come back.Assurance has value, accountability has value, AI offers neither, it is completely unacceptable for anything of real consequence.Only people cashing in on stupid VC morons would say otherwise.
>>106530631The main use case for AI is to sift through the bulk data collected by corporations and fed to government agencies to help profile every living man on the planet. For that purpose, it is probably more than good enough by now. Otherwise there would not be such unprecented investment in datacenters.
>>106532967>The main use case for AI is to sift through the bulk data collected by corporations and fed to government agencies to help profile every living man on the planet. For that purpose, it is probably more than good enough by now. Otherwise there would not be such unprecented investment in datacenters.This is the objectively correct bottom line that should be the start and end of every "AI" thread. They don't need thinking machines. They need better statistical models of their human cattle and social dynamics so that they could manipulate and control everything better.
>>106532359>Bitch about chinese surveilance>Ends up copying chinese surveilanceWhat did westerners mean by this?
As a field and no. As a trend, maybe.
>>106532997Rent free
>>106532727>spouts complete Dunning-Kruger nonsense>"nuh uh, spoonfeed me!"Fuck off retard, do your own research
>>106532754Why is /g/ consistently the lowest IQ board on this site?
>>106532993Why did you quote the entire post? Fucking idiot
>>106532244Just use an AI generated face.
>>106530631AI is better than ever and it is improving faster and faster. Don't listen to the haters. In six months the world will be unrecognizable to today. AI is an infinitely growing beacon of prosperity.
>>106530799Holy ESL grammar.>>106530987Are we? Are we really?We need one of those negro voting tests from Jim Crow era Southern states to filter out the brownoids.>>106530918>a new paradigm may be around the cornerThis faith in absolutely nothing but dreams is quickly approaching cult/pseudo religious levels.>>106531660Useful applications of AI isn't in LLMs. It's in highly specialized applications like genetic sequencing. The ability to better understand pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics on a per person basis is going to be important. Medications can be tailored to an individuals genetic make up; applications of previous medications for new diseases due to better understanding of how they interact with the body, etc.
>>106533136Really? Because the new models haven't improved as much as the previous models did. I smell diminishing returns
>>106533136>Improving faster and fasterOverall maybe. Like improvements in video or voice or 3D renders or whatever keep coming out that could really disrupt creative spaces. But in areas that actually matter where real work gets done you're still left with vibe coded security defects. Basically for every creative application of AI there's always some level of imperfection that you can kind of just ignore. But those imperfections in software are a banking error or incorrect medication or a reactor exploding. Basically it will disrupt the artcels and OF whores and force them to get real jobs but unfortunately you're gonna have to keep waging for a while.
>>106533131>Why did you quote the entire post?Because of this:>>106532993>This is the objectively correct bottom line that should be the start and end of every "AI" thread. They don't need thinking machines. They need better statistical models of their human cattle and social dynamics so that they could manipulate and control everything better.
>>106533114Notice how I correctly predicted your inability to point out anything "wrong" in that pic. Do you need me to spoonfeed you how to code a function that converts a neural net into a tree of conditionals like that, or do you want to remain the saddest victim of Dunning-Kruger ITT?
>>106534109>cars work through magic>"no they dont">HAH YOU CANT EXPLAIN HOW CARS WORKNot doing your own research for you.Do it yourself, or keep flaunting your retardation in public, I dont care
>matrix multiplications have exponential complexityWho's gonna tell them?
>>106534221Guess I really do have to spoonfeed you. Ok, here you go:https://pastebin.com/raw/3At3KBcWI wonder what kind of delusional cope you're gonna cope up with against a direct, runnable demonstration of the equivalence between neural nets and an if-else tree.
>>106534342Whom are you quoting? Are you having another one of those episodes?
>>106530631At some point there will be a combat between a Tier One and Two country and this will be when everyone literally shits their pants and starts calling for an end to AI this WILL happen.The scenario is USA versus Russia lets say. I dunno maybe Russia is too strong and would use Chinese AI. So say USA versus... a random country that has jet aircraft.AI will be able to predict every plane movement, all missiles, hit chaff at perfect timings, fire missiles with perfect timings. USA will shoot down 180 Indian jets and India will shoot down 0. Then the time of AI has finally come.
>>106534406You have chosen to keep embarrassing yourself
>>106534439We can already do all that shit and don't need AI
>>106530631damn the new doom looks crazy
>>106530799>Consider yourself why you castrated yourself first...what?
>>106530631Honestly, I think AI can advance but... it feels really solved to me. How much better can it get?The women on Grok look really realistic to me. I have seen on /gif/ its basically 10% less real than reality I don't see much difference its just a big fat tittied lady getting dick. AI videos are just like oh wow heres some humans walking around. la de da, no different than say computer graphics in a movie. Call me an idiot I dunno it really seems as good as it should get. Yes even if you wanted too you can get any kind of girl do a 360 and see her pussy, asshole, holes in her nipples, skin bumps. Its all possible now.Maybe its just the polishing phase and there is no need for "revolutions" its just actually extending the time of video footage and making less mistakes.I think this means plateaued.
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>>106534537>the biobot's chosen coping method: a fully generic non-responseGuess I really do have to spoonfeed you. Ok, here you go:https://pastebin.com/raw/3At3KBcWI wonder what kind of delusional cope you're gonna cope up with against a direct, runnable demonstration of the equivalence between neural nets and an if-else tree.
