>immutable distros just work
>fatpakDeprecated
ukrainian is such an ugly dialect, the latin "i" does not belong with other cyrillic letters
>>106531363it's just works, until you need to add new packages that are not available as flatpaks (or not designed to work as such), or cannot be used from containers without feeling too restricted. or if you need to change something about the os/kernel itself. or interface with a hardware in a way how it's not expected at the lower level. in other words, it doesn't work for desktops.
>>106531392The Cyrillic letter I / i goes back to the origin of the Slavic scripts in the 9th century, dumb zigger.
>>106531363just install fedora
>>106531363yes, and?I use NixOS at work and on my VPS.Maybe if bazz chuds would make their distro declarative, I would switch.
>>106531488True, I wish Ukrainians were proud of being Slavs instead of wishing to be "germanic aryans"
>>106531580new kernel has issues with ipv4 lol
>>106531604convince me to switch to nix
>>106531488Really? Where?
>>106531611that's the problem - they think getting rid of the post-soviet state of mind and widespread corruption means becoming "european" (which is one of the ways yes).
>>106531639you press button and receive a full blown OS. that's it. no bullshit tinkertranny cope you will forget a few years later. it's all encoded in your derivation, or it isn't and you're retarded.unlike yaml soup garbage like ansible, nix is actually a functional language (both in the literal sense and plt sense).
>>106531726can you name a generation with a custom name and mark it against the gc, to have a consistent stable point of return? when i tried it a couple of years ago, i hated how it linearly relies on the snapshots by their recency, which is rather pointless.
>>106531772you need to add it as a root in your gchttps://nix.dev/manual/nix/2.18/package-management/garbage-collector-rootswhy though? if it's version controlled, worse case you can literally just check it out and rebuild it, no?
>>106531805>why though?i had a problem where my system became unexpectedly unstable due to my own fuckery and all the available generations had the exact same issue. i couldn't even rebuild, but boot. a clean reinstall from an older commit fixed that, but the issue was reproducible from the newer config commits.
>>106531726you cant use the t word if you use nix lol
>>106531363>just werksSaid nobody ever, the most progressive in terms of new tech adaptation linux distro like Fedora's own devs say Linux on the desktop is not ready to be used and breaks all the time, atomic distros should be the future (keyword FUTURE, not CURRENT) but they aren't ready yet either because flatpaks are broken half the time, poorly maintained, don't get security updates for libs that ship with them, and most aren't verified or approved of by original devs (example all browsers saying flatpak is broken because it breaks sandboxing and has other performance issues, steam saying you should use official deb instead of third party packaging)
>>106531699Ukraine is the most courupt country in the world
>>106531363you need a VPN for that hohol bro>>106531392Russian used to have "i" before socialist revolution burger bro
>>106532143Mint just works, though.
>>106532153It's about as corupt as Serbia. Both of which closer to the middle on the world corruption index and do better than Russia.https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2024
>>106531363suka blyat
>>106532133yes I can. YWNBAW, contrarian idpol obsessed retard.
>>106531363Lmao, they blocked Russians from downloading openh264, but blocked hohols as well.
>>106532227My dude didn't nixtrannies literally made the actual logo the lgbtqiabc+ one?
>>106532209No it doesn't, it's shit. The closest to just werks distro is Ubuntu LTS, it could be Fedora because it's even easier to use with one software app if they weren't autistic and didn't ship vanilla GNOME with no dock or minimize/maximize buttons and no codecs or hardware accelerated proprietary stuff in the distro. Mint is a meme distro managed by 2 people that has no security advisories, is stretched thin and can't even make cinnamon work with basic stuff like wayland and is now a ugly frankenstein mess because they're incorporating new GNOME stuff while most of the cinnamon UI is old gnome when they forked away. The moment clement dies the distro is dead, nobody uses it except non-technical old people who can't contribute, and it fully relies on Ubuntu servers and devs to go, yet isn't even compatible with Ubuntu since it's cinnamon based and most of it's apps are from cinnamon team and rely on Clement himself to do everything, and have stripped away snaps that Ubuntu is massively turning to and slowly converting the entire system into
It just worksUntil it doesn't Then you can't fix it
>>106532231I don't know, nor care. I'm not a tinkertranny faggot like you who likes tweaking random shit in untraceable ways.that's it. that's all that matters to me.
>>106531363>cisco forbids anyone from rehosting their h264 package>this happensGood reminder to avoid depending on shit like this.
>>106532260Then just use Guix instead of shilling for something that goes against every single retarded belief you hold lmao. How much of a little cuck faggot do you have to be to use an OS made by people who hate you?
>>106532272>just use unreadable lisp slop that has no packages, has no flakes or uses a sane init systemno thanks faggot.lead the way though, maybe if guix gets better I'll consider it.
>>106532281>brainlet poltard cant into lispmore news at 11
>>106531580at that point just use windows lulz
>>106532292>poltardI'm not the one obsessed with the background of my distro or its contributors, unlike youalso lisp is boomer trash and you're retarded. nix (the language) heems lisp easily.
>>106532232>cinnamonnot my problem>and have stripped away snaps that Ubuntu is massively turning to and slowly converting the entire system intoso it's literally ubuntu but better
>>106532302background of your distro? that shit is at its forefront and shoved into your face. sure, no one cares if a dev is a fag but what about when they start kicking people for not being aligned with their views? but what if they start shoving it into your face their "pride"?what if they change the fucking logo into it?when do you say enough is enough?>lisp>trash>uses nixlangLOL
>>106532294>Windowsno immutabilityno containersvery shitty package management (um windows store is LE BAD even though it's how every Linux distro basically does it!)a lot of very hard questions are shipped off onto you to manage, all the utilities and command lines in windows are wildly insufficient for even basic usage.
>>106532323>lisp weenie is a shit-no-one-cares about enthusiastmany such cases.it's 2025 gramps, you don't need to write out shitty ASTs by hand anymore. We have structured programming.I wish I could find that old paper that just outright btfo's lisp cucks comparing it against Miranda
>>106532348nice deflection sis see you at the pride parade
>>106532356>deflection????I don't fucking care about your rainbow fag bullshit logo. I. don't. care. period.You lost. You do things wrong because you're literally retarded. I don't care about your coping justification. NixOS won.
>>106532294at that point just kill yourself
>>106531363>immutable distro disallows editing root filesystem>user tries to intentionally install arbitrary files as system packages (flatpak explicitly asks do you want user or system bazaar is a very new app)>noooo why cant i install into system on this immutable distro that was made to prevent me from installing into system rootYou are very stupid my friend
>>106531459>or cannot be used from containers without feeling too restrictedThere are none outside of kernel drivers since toolbox mounts everything (including namespaces). For drivers yes but if there is a genuine driver you need to manually install that is not nvidia then you have other issues (every ublue image has an -nvidia version that ships with nvidia)
>>106531363Dw ukrbro, cisco's h264 hates russians too. I can't even update my fedora install properly without a vpn.Death to proprietaryfags.
>>106531363>403>proprieatry codec>russianIvan go back to spamming how proud you are as a White Christian American
>>106531363>server returned 403this literally has nothing to do with your distro, flathub is blocking you>>106531459>until you need to add new packages that are not available as flatpaksAppimage works perfectly fine. Distrobox can be used to install your other packages. rpm-ostree can be used as a last resort.
>>106532281>>just use unreadable lisp slopthis stops being a problem once you actually become a programmer
>>106534164and yet no one actually cares about lisp but a select few weenies clinging to their shitty "no syntax" language. reminder Lisp was just the AST for M-Expressions.
