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How's my font rendering looking? I tried to match it to Ubuntu's...
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>>106534791
lesser known but useful linux programs?
discovered this one recently
> flock - apply or remove an advisory lock on an open file
https://linux.die.net/man/2/flock
basically allows you to write to the same file from multiple scripts without overwriting data.
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How do i fix my grub2 welcome screen that flashes 1 second to be less blurry? It annoys me. Everything after it is 1920x1080 but this one, solely this one, is blurry and ugly.
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>>106534802
>>106534914
>I tried to match it to Ubuntu's.
We can tell.
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>>106535696
Under UEFI it should use native resolution. Otherwise consult the friendly manual for GRUB_GFX* variables you can set.
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>>106535728
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how does one manage software that isn't in your repos? there has to be better way to track some .deb installers
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>>106536297
make
sudo make install
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How do i stop the virtual package mail-transport-agent from being pulled in on debian? apt-mark hold doesnt work. I dont need a damn mail server on my desktop for fuck sake debian.
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6.18 is going to fucking RUIN linus why are we letting them fuck up how memory works//
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what are the pros and cons of flatpaks versus just downloading things via terminal? i am told flatpaks are a bit safer since they have a bit of "padding" around them but that increases the "weight" a bit of them.
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>>106537021
Flatpaks are bloated, larger file size, there may be bugs caused by sandbox or apps may misbehave. But they will have all their dependencies and will be more stable for stuff like wine or steam. It would be better to install flatpak stuff only on a case-by-case basis
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>>106537085
what are the most important ones to do flatpak? i did firefox in case of 0 day h4xx.
but would obs, libraoffice, gimp and vlc need that at all?
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>>106537177
There arent any important ones, just install whatever ones you want through flatpak. As far as i know OBS suggests people to use the flatpak because they're maintaining it.
If you're worried about 0day vulnerabilities then you shouldnt be using firefox in the first place
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>>106537177
Anything that connects to the internet. But the main benefit of flatpak is that it's a universal platform which devs can target, so you avoid having to rely on your distro maintainers packaging their own versions of software and you avoid dependency hell. Sandboxing is just an additional benefit.
Realistically, you should install most if not all your gui applications using flatpak or appimage.
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>>106537338
>>106537285
>>106537177
you should NEVER use flat paks
ill die before i use them
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>>106537338
>Realistically, you should overbloat your filesystem by 300% instead of using your native package manager
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>>106537371
before I google criticism of flatpak what's your criticism
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>>106537475
because they are wrong and what we come to linux to get away from
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more like fatpaks
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Why does it not work? Recursion fails post first iteration:
bash
#!/bin/bash

function download_from_dir() {
url=$1; shift;

web_full=$(curl --silent $url | grep -Po '(?<=href\=).[^>]*' | tr -d '"')
printf "\n"
for i in $web_full; do
if [[ "$i" == "*.mp4" || "$i" == "*.png" || $i == "*.jpg" ]]; then
echo "yes $i"
else
echo "not $i"
download_from_dir "${url}/${i}"
fi
done
}

download_from_dir http://192.168.1.33:8080
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>>106537021
Flatpaks are standardized apps, everyone gets the same.
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>>106537177
Browser sandbox is weakened by Flatpak's sandbox. That's the main drawback of Flatpak. That's one thing to watch out for with Flatpak, it comes with sandboxing that can interfere with certain applications. Mainly a problem for browsers I think.
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>>106537697
when I run a flatpak browser I can't upload images to 4chan from anywhere but the flatpak's ~/.var/app/x.y.z/
so that would tell me the sandbox is smaller.
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I want to get from linux into cybersecurity. any advices? any books would you recommend?
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>>106537720
Idk the details but apparently it weakens browser sandbox.

https://brave.com/linux/#flatpak
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1756236
https://librewolf.net/installation/linux/#security
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/33411/flatpak-support/191
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>>106520414
>>106521303
I'm this guy.
Got a DP cable. It seems to be fine.
So could be the monitor or GPU?
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>>106537790
Oh yeah and again, it's high refresh rate on 1920x1080 which should work fine on HDMI 2.0?
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>>106537437
>overbloat your filesystem by 300%
Are you retarded? Most people's system and software don't even account for 10% of the total used storage even if all they use is flatpak.
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>>106537757
read through the Mozilla bug, seems like they are asking for a feature to use namespaces instead of just a chroot. just a different way of going about it.
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>>106537697
A problem for anything using electron
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>>106537848
installing a flatpak package will take up 5-10gb of space while installing the same package through your package manager will take up nothing more than a couple hundred megs
you're "realistically" telling people they should be filling up their drives with flatpak shit whenever possible
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What's a good Linux equivalent to Exact Audio Copy from Windows? I recently lost all my flac and had to nuke Windows.
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give me a final answer, I tried looking it up online and there are dozens of conflicting reports

can you run a windows 10 vm with good graphic performance (good enough for 60 fps desktop experience) on qemu+libvirtd without using GPU passthrough?
I configured every bit of "enhancements" I could find, it improved the snappiness of moving windows around or desktop animations but it still feels choppy and I can't even open simple 2.5D game Noita as it will crash
I tried QXL and virtio video drivers and it seems that both provide the same performance QXL enables a software mouse cursor which is much smoother than that of virtio
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>>106538295
google says adcde or whipper
>>106538333
probably not
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>>106534611
xfs
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Has anyone here used KDE Linux yet? Thinking of hopping to it
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>>106534914
Not bad, considering the resolution. There are no obvious issues that I could notice.
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>>106538256
>installing a flatpak package will take up 5-10gb of space
A single flatpak app will consume more space (nowhere close to 10GB like you're suggesting), but having 50 flatpaks installed will consume no more than 15GB-25GB in total, depending on the software. Which is only 3GB-7GB more than what would be taken up by native software.
Using up to 10GB more storage (in total) to get better software compatibility/updates and completely avoiding dependency hell is a price almost everyone on the planet is willing to pay. And it is proven by the fact that every other OS has the same method of software distribution, and all the Linux gamers (millions of people) are doing the same thing by installing games through Proton which itself is also a 500MB container environment. Stop pretending that we're still in the year 2000 when people had less than 80GB of storage.

>you're "realistically" telling people they should be filling up their drives with flatpak shit whenever possible
Correct? Because it's the thing that works the most and causes the least amount of problems in general. Same applies to using Wine/Proton to play games rather than using Linux native versions. Especially considering a lot of software/games literally cannot be installed natively because of outdated/incompatible dependencies.
Compatibility, direct distribution from developers and timely updates are much more important than saving a couple of GB.
Distros maintaining packages only makes sense in a closed, tightly controlled environment. Which desktops are not. It's always been a bad idea and it's literally one of the major setbacks of Linux usability on desktops.
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I like Debian
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>>106538614
It's just a shittier Aurora/Kinoite. It's not meant to be used, at least not yet. It's just a platform to reproduce and report KDE bugs.
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>>106538719
>Which is only 3GB-7GB more than what would be taken up by native software.
that's completely false its very difficult to reach up to like 20gb used space by installing triple the amount of software compared to flatpaks they're ridiculously bloated especically with all the different versions of runtimes and dependencies
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>>106538333
You're going to struggle with proper graphical acceleration the best you can do is get mesa-dist-win or whatever its called and hope that mesa's software rendering will be good enough.
If you have an intel cpu you can try doing intel-gvt
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Intel_GVT-g
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>>106537552
Hard to say without know what the first page you're downloading looks like.
Works "fine" on my machine, using this 4chan page as a test.
Did you try printing web_full? It may be you're only getting one item.
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>>106538800
>that's completely false
>its very difficult to reach up to like 20gb used space by installing triple the amount of software compared to flatpaks
Sure thing bud. Even if the dependencies consumed an additional 20GB themselves, it's still an irrelevant amount of storage unless your only drive is a $5 micro SD card.
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>>106538800
my flatpaks install a bunch of dependencies and they each use them
seems like another os agnostic package manager to me.
windows by itself takes up more disk space so I'm not sure what the problem is.
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>>106538888
>le storage is cheap
just ignore laptops stuck with embedded storage between 32-128gb, or all the extra gigabytes of writes those flatpaks will do everytime you update them
>your ssd will last forever!
if only there was something possibly writing gigabytes of crap to the disk every time it did an update...
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>>106538975
having experienced many a SSD write exhaustion anon speaks the truth
j/k none of you have ever had this problem.
and your 128gb SSD from 2008 is still fine.
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>>106538958
>comparing flatpak to windows
the absolute state...
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>>106538982
correction, first available 2010.
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do you guys know how to speed up loading gifs on linux? When I had my pi it loaded gifs very fast. But it died and I have my old computer now. When I click gif it takes like 20 seconds to load it and stutters a lot.
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>>106538982
you sound like someone who never uses an ssd
ive had plenty of ssds burn out over the years
only a retard would think that an ssd from more than 10 years ago would still survive
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>>106538975
>laptops stuck with embedded storage between 32-128gb
Even the cheapest laptops have 250GB and have had it for years. Anything less is usually just shitty chromebooks or something ancient. In which case, sure, just use an extremely minimalist distro. But most people are not on devices this shit.
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>>106538614
>KDE Linux
>The experience of using an older NVIDIA GPU is rough. Manual setup is currently required for anything older than an NVIDIA GTX 1630 to even work at all, and they are essentially untested.
>@chatgpt when did gtx 1630 release?
>2022
Anything more than 3 years old is basically ancient in OSS these days. It's crazy.
I'm seeing this everywhere now. Just today I also got a cups warning that at some point they'll stop supporting almost every old printer that's working perfectly fine in favor of IPP Everywhere.
Between this sort of thing and every piece of software being rewritten in rust, I might stop updating my computer entirely until I die.
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>>106539036
you'd think that someone with a tiny ssd would know what their working with and make the appropriate changes to their usage but no, must argue against large software because muh ssd write endurance.
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>>106539019
>ssd from more than 10 years ago would still survive
yeah, you can get larger than 128 gb ssds within the last decade for cheaper, so the original argument that you have a tiny ass ssd that somehow survived 14 years is still worth protecting so nobody should use flatpak
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>>106539119
Nvidia releases really shit cards that aren't meant for anything other than an extra monitor output well after the generation has passed. pretty sure that gen is from 2019
never buy Nvidia less than 60
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>>106538992
if you want to bring the experience of one click installers to linux and therefore more interest from windows users then yes, comparing to windows is relevant.
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>>106539228
I'm not the one arguing against flatpaks.
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>>106539312
Maybe if you're into local AI or playing AAA gay-nigger fests.
My 1070ti is playing all my little games just fine. I can't imagine ever upgrading. If it dies for some reason I'll probably just get another one used on ebay for, hopefully, cheap.
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I’ve got a hdd in my pc that has all my anime and tv shows, is there a way to add the drive to arch without having to format it?
For clarification I’ve jumped into the deep end, completely removed windows and have installed arch and got it running. I have plasma running as my DE, whenever I turn on my pc I have to enter my password to access my media hdd. My guess is that I need to mount it? Could someone point me in the right direction?
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