https://www.macrumors.com/2025/09/09/iphone-17-n1-chip/>The N1 is a networking chip. It supports Wi-Fi 7, Bluetooth 6, and Thread. Because Apple was able to create the chip to integrate with other hardware and software in the iPhone, it's more efficient and it offers improved reliability.>According to Apple, the N1 chip improves the performance and reliability of features like Personal Hotspot and AirDrop. The N1 will replace networking chips that Apple previously sourced from suppliers like Broadcom.Competition is good, but /g/ will find a way to shit on this. Broadcom can fuck themselves. Most people on /g/ don't even have phones that do Wifi7, BT6 and Thread in 1 chip. What does the N stand for?
>>106544107Bigger.
>>106544110true
>>106544107likely stands for Network/Networking
>>106544107>Because Apple was able to create the chip (...) it's more efficient and it offers improved reliability.kek
>>106544200Makes sense. Apple didn't own the hardware before. You dumb or something?
>>106544107Apple's N1163R chip offers improved network reliability to better track niggers using iPhone
>>106544210It implies that because Apple made it, it's better than the competition by default (also indirectly implying the current non-N1 phones are less reliable and less efficient). All of this is bullshit.
>>106544107What competition? Apple isn't going to sell this chip. They're just continuing to vertically structure their supply chain.
>>106544225>It implies that because Apple made it, it's better than the competition by defaultNo. It is saying that the N1 chip is more integrated with the rest of the iphone than broadcom's chip so it will make iphone features like airdrop more reliable. Try reading you stupid brown fuck.
>>106544107Nigger
>>106544235>What competition?Broadcom is losing money now because they no longer can sell to Apple. The N1 chip is a new competitor.
networking god herenever heard of thread
>>106544238>the N1 chip is more integrated with the rest of the iphoneIt isn't, and this was also never a problem before they made the N1. It's just more marketing wank from Apple.
>>106544249It's IP over the same physical layer as Zigbee (IEEE 802.15.4).
>>106544249>never heard of threadhttps://www.threadgroup.org/What-is-Thread/Overview
>>106544255>It isn'tYes it is you dumb fuck. It's a custom-made in-house chip. They can't modify the broadcom chips since it is not their IP, but now they control their own chips.
>>106544274>They can't modify the broadcom chips since it is not their IPThey never needed to, yet now claim otherwise. I don't believe Apple, and never will.
>>106544280>They never needed toWhy not? They made their own SOC? They might as well create all their own hardware. You're just being negative for no reason, and if you support giving Broadcom money, you're a stupid fuck.
>>106544246It's not a competitor. No matter how good a chip Broadcom makes, Apple will use their own now.This isn't about competition, it is about vertically structuring their products.
>>106544291>It's not a competitor.Yes it is. The N1 is now competing against broadcom chips in other devices. The N1 will eventually replace all the broadcom chips in Mac, iPad, Homepad, everything with Wifi/BT. Broadcom was dealt a huge blow, the same as when Intel was dealt a huge blow when Apple switched to their M series chips.
>apple in charge of networkingare they still using the freebsd tcp/ip stack from the 90s that can easily get shit on by a syn flood? will they ever fix dns? and they think they can do hardware? broadcom sucks but applel lmao
>>106544210How's that Apple Intelligence going for them? Ended up running towards a third party, right?
>>106544336>they think they can do hardware?the m series of chips is honestly really solid, what are you talking about?
>>106544346not hardware. don't care.
>>106544346>How's that Apple Intelligence going for them? Ended up running towards a third party, right?doesn't that defeat your argument that apple will always create their own thing?
>>106544336>and they think they can do hardware?You've clearly never used the M4.
>>106544107>N-Chip>Makes it much easier to steal neighbours WiFi
>>106544306Again, no, because Apple is now GOING TO USE N1. There is no competition. Broadcom is not even on the table anymore. And Apple is not going to be selling the N1 for use in non-Apple devices.The same thing with Intel and the M series. Once Apple decided to move to their own chips, every "competitor" was now off the table. Intel could have made a wonder chip that kicked the shit out of M in performance and efficiency, and Apple would not have used it. It wouldn't have mattered.
>>106544107>N1GGER?
>>106544530This is like saying there's no competition between iPhone and Galaxy phones because they make their own chips. Broadcom lost a huge contract and they have to recoup by making chips for other companies.
>>106544571>This is like saying there's no competition between iPhone and Galaxy phones because they make their own chips.That's competition in a different market.
>>106544577It's competition, period. You think Broadcom is no longer a company?
>>106544107wow a new chip that works even better for hotspot, which works flawlessly on android for years. apple has absolutely been dead since steve jobs died. what a horrible joke of a company.
>>106544530stop arguing with retards
>>106544588Are you actually fucking dense?For there to actually be competition, Apple would still have to consider buying Broadcom chips, or Apple would have to consider selling chips outside their own products.Once they have made a decision to only use their own chips, it doesn't matter what Broadcom does. Broadcom could make the best chip ever and Apple won't consider it. Apple is just doing their own shit now.Apple is not selling their chips into the other markets that Broadcom feeds, so there's no competition there either.Apple is just walling themselves off. They're isolating themselves.
>>106544350>>106544376one would think that even a retard would be able to tell by context that I'm talking about networking and not compute but I guess not
>>106544632brownest comment I've ever read jfc
>>106544774I guess browns really are going to take over the world then.
>>106544249>networking god here>never heard of threads/god/retard/i
>>106544894I hadn't either and then I found out it was IoT shit, so not worth knowing about.
>>106544933Are you poor?State of the art in home automation.
>>106544961Miss me with that security nightmare shit.
>>106544156Bigger.
>>106544632>For there to actually be competition, Apple would still have to consider buying Broadcom chips, or Apple would have to consider selling chips outside their own products.Holy shit you are dumb. You can compete simply by disrupting the chip market and adding a new player, and Apple is now a new player in their own products. Broadcom was a partner but is now competing against Apple.
>>106544107I'm don't really like iPhones but honestly this might actually be a good thing.
>>106544998>and Apple is now a new player in their own productsBut they're not because they're not selling the chip!
>>106544998>and Apple is now a new player in their own products.No, it is now the only player in their products which is why it's not a competition.
>>106545036a new player in the market, dumbass.You think Broadcom is still winning after Apple dumped them?
>rich white people get top tier apple silicon>poor shitskins get laggy chinkslopim ok with this
>>106545055>a new player in the market, dumbass.But they're not because they're not "in the market"!They are cutting themselves off from the market. They are walling themselves off. They are isolating themselves.Why can't you fucking read?
>>106545050>No, it is now the only player in their products which is why it's not a competition.Broadcom used to be the only way Apple got Wifi and BT in their products. Are you saying it was more competitive then?
>>106545068Broadcom was not the only way they could do it. Other companies make Wifi and BT chips.
>>106545066>But they're not because they're not "in the market"!They are. They are selling products that used to have Broadcom chips but no more. What if Broadcom also gets shut out by Samsung or other big OEMs that use their chips? They will consider Samsung and such OEMs competitors.
>>106545074>Broadcom was not the only way they could do it. Other companies make Wifi and BT chips.And Apple thinks their in-house chip is as good or better than Broadcom's or they wouldn't switch to their own chip because it would hurt their sales if all their products had inferior Wifi and BT after switching. Do you think Broadcom is happy Apple made their own chip or do they see Apple as a threat?
>>106545087>What if Broadcom also gets shut out by Samsung or other big OEMs that use their chips?If those companies also create their own chips in house and don't sell them outside their own products, then they're also not competition.Yes, it sucks for Broadcom as they lose business, but it isn't competition because Broadcom CAN'T COMPETE.
>>106545114>Do you think Broadcom is happy Apple made their own chip or do they see Apple as a threat?Not happy but also not a competitive threat, because Apple isn't selling the chips.Yes, Broadcom loses out, but again it isn't competition because Broadcom can't compete.
>>106545119>it isn't competition because Broadcom CAN'T COMPETE.They do compete, through other OEMs like Samsung.
>Apple is one of Broadcom’s biggest customers, accounting for roughly 20% of revenue. Broadcom is scheduled to report its latest quarterly results after the market closes Thursday.https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-12-12/apple-nears-switch-to-in-house-bluetooth-and-wi-fi-chip-for-iphone-homeouch!
>>106545161No. You're saying that Broadcom is competing with Apple by install base in percentage of devices. That isn't true, because Apple is stonewalling. Only their devices will have that chip.If Apple started selling the N1 chip so Samsung could use it in their phones, then it would be competition, otherwise it is just closing off a market.
>>106545185>The transition is separate from Apple’s highly anticipated shift from Qualcomm Inc. cellular modems — details of which Bloomberg News reported last week — but the two parts will eventually work together.Yeah, so Apple are still using other Broadcom chips for now.Again, this is Apple's shift to vertical integration.
>>106544225Retarded nigger
As a Broadcom investor I laugh at all of you dimwits
>>106544107designed by IDF Unit 8200, so the wise person shan't be using the chip.
>>106544191N1 is network 1C1 is cellular 1What is the M for? Can’t be mobile right? Mac? But it’s on iPads too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Eyi4ir3jBQ
>>106544107>Competition is good, but /g/ will find a way to shit on thisGo fuck yourself, bootlicker.>What does the N stand for?Evidently, "No penis," which is your prerogative, champ.
>>106544639The iPhone 16e already has an Apple-made modem. We are all waiting for your report on that
>>106547622according to macworld, it's shit: https://www.macworld.com/article/2626940/apple-c1-modem-real-world-tests-iphone-16e-download-upload-speeds-performance.htmlhow do you feel about that, saar
Thread is gay though.
>>106544249Nonfree patented garbage that provides meshing for your iot shit. It's actually good, but because of patent horseshit it's unusable.
Yeah but if you need to stick a giant bulge on the back of your phone to fit it inside who the hell cares?
woahh improvements to personal hotspot and airdrop, here take my $1500!!!!!! (i've never once used personal hotspot or airdrop because I'm not a fucking dumb nigger)
>>106544588I guess every time you cook your own hamburger at home then McDonald’s is competing with you. You only compete with McDonald’s if you open your own establishment and sell burgers to the public.
>>106544110kek
>>106548318Also 25% less power. As the Air/e models are known And such.
>a slightly less shitter version of bluetooth, a technology that has always been dogshit>repeat for wifiI don't even know what Thread is, nor do I give a shit
>>106548449triggered
>>106544964the point of thread is that it makes “IoT” less “IoT” and more p2p LAN.
