>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

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>>106557688
Nope. No matter how cute, nope.

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Sorry radeon-kun, but Nvidia Blackwell is the way It's Meant to Be Played ™
Sorry :)

>>106557766
I'd rather play BF6 than BL4, and I own a GeForce card.

5070 is a 1080p card officially confirmed?

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>>106557809

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>>106557766
>a 9070 xt cant do 60 fps native at 1440p max settings
it does 50 fps in the easier to run areas out of combat

>>106557809
>40-45 fps on combat 1440p native
same as the 9070xt unfortunately

>>106557688
all that hair going inside of the PC case, yea nah i'm good.

>>106557804
>This is the value play, find 2~3 27" 1440p monitors you like and buy one when it's discounted.
ty, guess i'll be on the lookout for a 27" ips then. No KTC available in my country unfortunately, is there any point going higher then 180hz on monitor for 1440p highest quality graphics? surely im not getting 200+ fps at 1440p without a 5090, its 2-400$ for 1440p 27" monitors, all from 140hz-300hz range

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>>106557778
Intel got the BF6 contract so enjoy the B580

>>106557887
totally worth it to buy intel cpu now

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>>106557766
gonna be getting a free key for this next week thanks to my based RTX 5070

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>>106557955
i hope my 5070ti thats suppose to be arriving next week comes with a free code aswell... the online shop started promoting "free borderlands 4" a few days after my order :(

>>106558028
I emailed customer support for the store I got it from, and they told me yesterday that starting next week they'll be distributing the codes by email.

>>106557719
>top io
deserved

>>106557876
>is there any point going higher then 180hz on monitor for 1440p highest quality graphics?
Not for me, 165~180Hz is fine for most gamers. I don't think it's worth buying +240Hz LCD monitors unless you're at least at a semi-pro level in competitive titles.

Well, BL4 is the first game not actually run well on my old i7 8700. Any good CPU+Motherboard deals going on for upgrading? And RAM, if DDR4 is too old, I guess.

>>106558081
any AM5 board and a Ryzen 5 7600/X, 9600/X or 7700/X
>esports gayman 360Hz
any AM5 socket X3D cpu

>>106558081
You missed out on the $150 14600K sales (+BF6 code).
This is the cheapest upgrade if you plan to carry over your DDR4 memory.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m2FZMC

Check Microcenter & Newegg's CPU + board bundles.

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gonna give my old pc to my dad after i build my new one, hes just gonna use it for websurfing.. it has one of those old 240gb ssd's that windows 10 is installed on, one m2 1tb nvme ssd and 2x 2TB sata hdd. Can i remove the 2x sata hdd's and just plug them into my new pc build? will it fuck up old pc in any way? got like 3TB in movies, tv shows and shadowplay recordings i want to keep, will they copy over to my new build? (installing win11 on it)

>>106558150
>>106558112
Thanks. Is there any real difference between AMD and Intel chips these days? Last time I was actually informed on CPUs, intel handled certain stuff better.

>>106558081
>DDR4
Maybe a used lga 1700 board and 12600kf or 13400/14400. That would be like $200 max
For whatever reason ddr5 z690 boards second hand are cheaper now though
Don't think there's any particularly good deals at this very moment. Could wait a bit for another 14600k sale

>>106558168
Intel CPUs have Quick Sync for video encoding, and cheaper multicore performance if your workloads benefit from it.
AMD is pretty much better at everything else.

>>106558168
I think AMD's X3D shit is better if you want incredibly high FPS in CPU-bound games.
For casual, single player, story gaming at 1440p or even 4K, at 60-144 FPS (possibly with framegen)? Basically anything modern enough for DDR5 and i5/R5 tier will suffice at this point.

>>106558154
assuming they're not encrypted sure

>>106557899
>totally worth it to buy intel cpu now
Do they have any decent CPUs for gaming shit that arent dumb expensive anymore? More than that, that arent buggy as shit?

>>106558190
As someone trying to part pick and is new to this shit, 9600X seems to be given the overall top market value despite the X3D and 9700X being a step above it "technically" since you're so GPU bound at something like 1440p on modern games that it really is fighting for digits of performance, apparently?

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>all the cool cases are itx

Did they ever fix the EXPO bug that was frying 7800X3Ds?

>>106558612
9600x is in fact the best value

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>>106558689
You're just not cool enough to get on the ride.

>>106558695
no and it clearly wasn't an EXPO bug because it's still frying 9800X3Ds

>>106558580
gotcha, ty. unfortunately just found out the 4000d frame case can only fit 2x 3.5hdd's and i have one 3.5 8TB hdd ordered already, feels like a waste filling the other last slot with only 2TB available. Will just wait for a black friday sale and maybe snag a 16tb or 20tb then.

Does this seem like a good bundle?
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007090/amd-ryzen-5-7600x3d,-asus-b650e-e-tuf-gaming-wifi-am5,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle
It's kinda nice to just drive over and pick it up and not fuck with shipping...

>>106558791
Yeah

>>106558791
at 430 i would look at some of the 12900 combos, or for 20 more you could get one of the 9700x bundles
zen4>5 uplift is quite good even compared to x3d ones (for gayming im not sure at what point higher ipc is better than fat cache, might be worth lurking around) and intlel 12gen should be last cpu anyone should get
researching about the mobos you could be gettting should be the 2nd task

>get 9070 XT for $700 from Newegg
>5080 is now $999
>can't trade-in 9070 because it's too new and too late to return it
5080 isn't that much better, right? Right?

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>>106558954

>>106558954
>He fell for the amd meme
hahahahaha lolol xd
Imagine falling for youtuber and reddit memes.

>>106558954
>9070 XT for $700
but it was a $599 card

damn the mere mention of a red card just summons him

>>106558985
Can you link to the website where all GPUs are in stock and at MSRP?

>>106558954
Can't believe there was a time just a few months ago where 9070's were over a thousand dollars. That's more than my entire current build cost. How are the pitchforks and torches not out yet? This is not normal.

AMD CUDIMM when

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9060XT from 3060ti is a reasonable upgrade Y/N?

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Day16 FAFO'ing with the G80SD - S90D on deep price cuts Edition

should I buy a 65" S90D and use as a monitor?
>Avoid LG WOLED shenaningas
>Glossy QD
>No Samsung one connect box memes
>Glossy where as the S95 series is not
>65" so unscaled tv pill for maximum real estate is a reality although I would be fine with 55" but since the panels are not QD it's over
>low ppi qdoled on glossy maximum eyestrain meme might come true
>better hdr than monitors
>lowish sdr brightness
>no brightness or meme color loss in game mode like LG tvs

>>106557766
>badassland 4
you tranny faggots really care for this shit?

>>106559276
It's circa +20% raw performance - noticeable but not game changing - so the main draw would be the increased buffer. Are you regularly running out of VRAM?

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>>106559276
No.

>>106559276
Wait another gen or find another $200-$400

>>106558722
i miss weird wacky pc cases. shit today feels so drab in comparison

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65" TV in action, let me guess, I need less?

>>106559384
I feel like my 1440p 27 inch monitor is way too fucking big to be useful for productivity. Sure, watching shit is great and very immersive, but 4chan at 100% zoom is impossible to read and I'm sitting very close to my monitor (shallow desk).
Unironically hunching over a 16-17 inch laptop is peak productivity because you can actually see the full screen at once AND it's big enough for 1080p and normal-sized icons.

>>106559276
hell no

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Anyone use those cheap screw gpu support brackets? Like pic related, my prebuilt computer has the psu below where this bracket would be. I just want to know if its possible to remove the magnet inside

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Cheapest 4k oled is 670€ here. Though it's gen 3 and 165 hz. I'm not really a competitive gamer, maybe a few times cs2 in some months. I wanna catch up to all the triple A games that I've missed out on. Should I do it?

>>106559419
the magnet isn't going to hurt your PSU

>>106559423
4K gaming at more than 165 FPS is not particularly viable in AAA games anyways, unless you've got a 5090 and use DLSS.
Just go for it if you think you can handle the OLED.

>>106559423
if you have a 4090 5090 or 5080 sure

>>106559454
Nop, 5070 ti. I will use DLSS. 5080 is a scam and 5090 out of budget

>>106559423
get the monitor that actually fits your gpu.
5080/5090 are 1440p 165hz or 4k 120hz.

>>106559475
sure go for it then

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>>106559331
Yes-ish, but probably not often enough to be an actual problem, now that I think about it
>>106559340
>>106559416
>>106559359
thanks and gimi to the other ones

5070 is also a 1440p120 card!
If you use DLSS and 2x Framegen, that is...

>>106559520
Mine has been perfectly fine for 1440p. I dont play AAA games though

THIS IS AN EMERGENCY:

do i need to update to 3.40 on my b650 bios if im using a 7800x3d?

Do I really need a 4tb SSD?

>>106559540
I've only had it for two weeks, but of the games I've tried:
>Oblivion Remastered - 120-140 FPS on mixed high/ultra with DLSS and Framegen, HW Lumen High
>Tiny Tina's Wonderlands - all maxed out 1440p locked 144 FPS (capped because it was fluctuating too much)
>MGS Delta (first few "rooms") - high settings ultra textures, DLSS Balanced, locked 60 FPS with GPU headroom
I've been busy going to WORK (classic am I right, can finally afford an up-to-date PC yet don't have the time to use it) so I've mostly been using it for genning AI slop and doing dailies in my gacha games, but AAA does seem to work well at 1440p actually.

casual reminder
>5070=4090

>>106559575
Yes, but only if you want to have 4tb of data on your ssd

>>106559575
not really no, but a lot of games released lately are taking 100gb+ easily in storage, dont want that on hdd. SATA hdd's are still way cheaper if u want lots of storage

>>106559520
>Toggles 4x through the Nvidia app
>My 5070 is now a 1440p240fps card
I don't understand why you wouldn't literally always use this feature.
Fuck niggers like Gaymer Steve for underselling the featureset of Nvidia cards
>>106559585
5070 = 4080 super, you literally cannot prove me wrong.

>>106559580
Nice, that's good to hear. Don't know about yours but mine's also way quieter than my old 1660 Super. The upgrade has been a game changer. I don't really know why the 5070 specifically generates so much asshurt, but for MSRP it's a pretty good card especially if youre coming from an ancient card

>>106559541
Yes, you should.

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>>106559407
I am using a 15.6 laptop too and cmon 27 is not large, at 1440p its even less so
I use like 125% text zoom on 140ppi, which is a bit smaller size than 105ppi 1440p
that just means you have trouble reading text and dont use the space enough? idk
I feel like icons are too large and text too small at 100% 1080p 15.6"

using a 4k 32" now a 65" is like four of them in size but in 1080p segments, kinda cooked when you think about it
and it's not sharp enough at 32", I might be cooked, idk, might be hard to take the tv pill after seeing higher ppi or not

65" makes 55" look reasonable

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>>106559623
>way quieter than my old 1660 Super
I also upgraded from a 1660 Super (PC now happily retired to my lil bro's bedroom), and yeah it does seem quieter. I think my 1660S was an... Asus? The whole system was TUF-flavored, maybe. My 5070 is the cheapest one - the Inno3D SFF-ready dual fan. Unlike the 1660S it actually has a 0 RPM mode when I'm just web browsing/chatting and not playing video (RTX video super resolution forces it to 1400RPM) or playing games.

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>>106559423
buy a S90D on steep sales, the prior best gaymen TV for triple A gaymen
I cannot confirm if Gigabyte has 16 hour forced refreshes for pixel refreshes, which WILL bug you and annoy you since the implementation is most likely buggy which will exacerbate the problem even more
there is zero reason to get 165 over 240 since they both use dsc too really

also as I have mentioned time and time again, oled fringing might be a thing which will be increased on glossy oled which will show in ways of feeling frying your eyes out and inability to focus due to the pixel matrix, if you encounter these issues you know why
you might be able to get used to them or not, depending on

other benefits of TVmaxxing is you will get ridiculously better HDR for triple A gaymes, more settings, samsung motion interpolation 60->120 30->120 (mogs nvidia from a potato tv chip), even better color gamut and brightness, tv meme features, more resale value most likely, reusable later in houses as a tv not a monitor

>>106559674
>30->120
30->60 *

>>106559454
>>106559476
Why no 5070ti? 5080 is barely better than it

>>106559663
Okay that's a nice feature. I got founders edition so not sure if that's offered, but even without it's plenty quiet. 1660 Super was a pretty good card back in the day, but its showing its age. I put mine in a matx build in the living room for browsing and couch games. Tried to fire up MGSV, Hitman, a few others and it really struggles on a 4k TV, obviously kek

>>106559444
The hard drive cage where I keep 2 3.5 spinners is also 1-2 inches away from it. Does it still not matter?

>>106559276
No

>>106559878
you probably shouldn't put the magnet directly on them but a few inches away is fine

What's the point of even getting a midrange GPU?
There are many games now which you cannot even play at max details at FHD, and they will only get more as more and more studios simply use Unreal Engine 5.

>>106560297
what part of mid range gpu means play at max settings

>>106560297
5060ti, 5070, and 9070 will have basically 0 issue at 1080p.

>>106560380
not in ue5 games

need new monitor, looking for 1440p

is the KTC H27T22 mentioned in op just a meme or fine for daily use?

>>106560297
If you bellieve in jensen neural rendering is the future and raster will become obsolete and at some point we'll get this massive generation breakthrough in which these midrange card willl be able to run better than the 7900 XTX because these card have modern tensor cores that can do AI accelerated tasks

>>106559276
the 9070 is not bad (even the 5070 12gb would also be a nice boost), but the 9060 XT is basically the same perf tier at the 3060 and newer gens have not been making massive gains on the low end.

>>106560297
they cost less

>>106560297
I pirate the game, if it's not fun I uninstall.
FPS / graphics settings don't matter.
multiplayer games (AKA can't pirate) tend to run on IGPU's like the steam deck.

>>106559407
You do have scaling on in windows, right ?

Forgot to mention that OFC I will not enable frame generation and other gimmicky retarded shit.

>>106560380
5070 and 9070 are not mid range anymore, lol.
They are the bare minimum though to play at max details in FHD.

>pirated games
possibly a stupid question, but does DLSS and the other nvidia features still work on those?

>>106560590
yes

>>106560582
Well the whole point of the blackwell meme architecture is to be able to run the so called "neural rendering". These GPUs are supposed to become stronger when these new rendering techniques get implemented (when who knows, will it be on all games? will it be part of unreal engine? a new version of DLSS? DLAA? fuck do i know)

DX12 just got cooperative vectors for neural shaders on their 6.9 update on june

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/cooperative-vector/

>>106560394
>>106560582
Why are you retarded? What games are a 5070 or 9070 going to struggle with at 1080p?

>want to game at 1440p
>only the most upscale/RT reliant games are having a massive need for newer cards than the RTX 2080 Ti, most other shit I play generally aren't stressing the GPU by comparison
>upgrading for rasterization is pretty much just for the sake of super high FPS past 60 or playing at 4K
Do I stall for now and just bring the Ti to a new build that's upgrading the CPU from an ancient i7? A new GPU would be futureproofing, but the actually worthwhile shit is all inflated like hell.

>>106560818
Well how much do you value rt and the dlss featureset? That's probably what it comes down to if you don't want to buy a 5090.

>>106560793
ue5 games you fucking cretin

>>106560930
Depends on if a game is made or broken by needing DLSS in the first place for 1440p performance. I may have a 240hz monitor but I know trying to push too hard is simply too much for some games so I try to hold a 60hz standard if it's stable. RT is entirely dependent on "is this game perfectly playable and designed without it, or is it fucked if it's theoretically disabled". So Doom Dark Ages or Indiana Jones are kind of a no-go as far as I know.

already so many complaints about borderlands 4 performance

they just need to turn on frame generation that's what 50 series and ue5 is about or go lossless failing that might work too

>Besides showcasing the visual improvements the new technology brings, id Software revealed how RTGI has streamlined game development, significantly reducing minimum and maximum pre-computation times per level, as well as lowering disk requirements, network storage, and turnaround time compared to older technology.
>Ubisoft's Nicolas Lopez highlighted how Assassin's Creed Shadows would have had 2 TB of lighting data, and would have taken almost 2 years to bake the lighting if the game used the same lighting tech seen in Assassin's Creed Unity.

It's clearly the future present. Ray Tracing already won.

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3060 good for 1080p medium at 60fps.
Performance doom debunked
>>106560961
>240hz monitor
Seems like you're a good candidate for just using mfg all the time.

>>106561006
>fake frames and upscaling on
look at how muddy and shitty that looks anon

>>106560981
the thing about framegen is that it doesn't change, or depending on if you're using an RX or RTX 40-series and below card, even lowers the playable frames that you "feel" in input beneath the veneer of framegen. so you could turn 60 frames into 120 with 2x, but in bad conditions where your computer is already being strained, that could feel like 40-50 frames, which also results in lurches and instability for the generated frames.
if your base game plays like absolute fucking ass and even the 5090 puts out like 60 FPS at bottom outs and a general 80 FPS otherwise for the broad game (past the tutorial area/first boss) on DLSS Quality at 1440p, frame gen isn't gonna make 60 feel like 120. it's mainly that the 50-series can take that performance drop away from the input frames to avoid things worsening, and apparently AMD performs better on Borderlands 4 anyway.

>>106561013
>fake frames
?
>muddy
yeah it's 360p jigaboo

Does anyone have any experience building a lossless scaling rig with dual GPUs?

I'm not pleased with all these games saying 8 cores minimum

why are so many games becoming CPU limited now

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grim

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>3080 + 9800x3d
>Still randomly slightly cpu bound
Sorry but a high refresh rate in this game is limited to gods chosen few (Buyers of Ada and Blackwell)

>>106561070
processing is its own boatload of demands separate of graphics, and is very, VERY easy to fuck up in its own way. every computation that has to be done for AI, for pathing, for what might drop items, for the code checks to start an animation, anywhere can get bottlenecked by bad programming, especially open world or large scale scenarios. dragon's dogma 2 shit itself bad because it kept many NPCs all active simultaneously and calculating the physics they have upon the world for the immersive element without caring to realize it isn't necessary 100% of the time, and helldivers 2's mega city maps shit the bed from tons of particles, lots of enemies, civvies running around in the active defense operations as well as SEAF troops later on, and all that shit adds up to many little throttles on the CPU all going simultaneously.

>>106561082
>>106561122
whats the monitoring hud he is using? msi afterburner?

>>106561172
Yeah afterburner + rivatuner (same installer)

>>106561172
rivatuner, usually people use afterburner with it, but you can use it with hwinfo64 as well.

>>106561189
>>106561195
thanks. I have mangohud on linux so I don't need this shit, just curious, thats all.

>>106558998
Taiwan and the collective issues of tariffs. Even southpark made fun of it.

>>106559290
This is a good pic to compare
I like the one on the right better

got some monitors off tiktok.

27" curved 1440p monitors by REHISK. 2 for about 190 dollars. not bad. unfortunately the dp cable the monitor comes with is dog shit, made the monitor look pixelated and flickered. swapped in my other monitors dp cable and voila, works flawlessly now. the other monitor has a stuck pixel i need to fix though. overall im satisfied. 3/5 score

>>106561158
games like roller coaster tycoon, hitman and mount and blade managed to do it fine

>>106561222
Which one's the one on the right though?

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>>106561158
But why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz2cNWVLncI
I watched this video on assassins creed unity and they said to cope with the dense crowd environments they created a system that balances load on what the player will be seeing and interacting with
that was like 10 years ago why are they just saying okay load every npc up as if they are right in front of the player today don't worry they all have threadrippers right

>>106561232
>that was like 10 years ago why are they just saying okay load every npc up as if they are right in front of the player today don't worry they all have threadrippers right
because that's AAA games nowadays: skip the Q&A phase and optimization for anything besides whatever stops a game from booting, and let it be on its merry way because we have money to make and a deadline to push.

>>106561239
You bet your ass there is a lot of AI slop code on top of not paying for real QA as well

>>106561232
because you absolutely need to know that in mhwilds quematrice is getting its ass kicked at the other side of the desert while you are in camp

>>106560961
Just loop overwatch 2 or mount and blade bannerlord new dlc or KCD2

>>106561230
>>106561230
You are probably [being] facetious or are a bot but I will do my best to explain. I guess the one where the violin is being hold lower is the one on the right.

>>106561270
But you are right, a picture is an image and something photographers have been trying for centuries to capture. Even digital cameras are shit. Closest thijg we have to the visual arts able to manipulate reality itself is VR headsets

>>106561270
You misunderstand, I was asking which brand is the one on the right. I assume they are different tv's but the op didn't specific which ones they were and I agree that the right one looks better so I wanted to know what it was.

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>>106561285
Yeah probably but I don't know the answer either.

>>106561070
New graphical features are also CPU heavy and is compounded by the fact that pc games don't have precompiled shaders and have to waste CPU cycles to do it in real time

>>106561061
The real question is why the fuck has AMD not moved past 8 cores on their fastest gaymen CPU

>>106557688
Does this creature add or lower FPS? Thinking of installing one.

For me, it's Biostar. Never done me wrong.

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The LED strip melted due to heat and residue trickled to the back of the motherboard. I tried brushing the goop with IPA and brush but ended up having a thin film though it's less sticky. The strip melted a couple of years ago, so nothing happened and only started clean when I'm moving the motherboard to a new case. Is the motherboard okay or am I fucked?

>>106561609
Try it and find out!

>>106561609
why did you buy led strip from temu
you know they dont follow eu safety requirements

>>106561518
because that would be more expensive

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>>106557688
stupid question here
will dual tower cpu cooler fit on Mini-Itx / micro atx ??

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>>106557688
Been running new AM5 build for about a month. I notice that if I use the sleep function, maybe a quarter of the times that I hit the power button to turn it back on, the case will show the on light, but I'll get no display, then the computer does a hard restart and obviously all my programs get shut down.
anyone run into this? what gives? I usually close things down before hitting sleep, but this is kind of disruptive.
MSI X870 on latest BIOS, 9600X, 5070 on newish driver, DDR5 CL30 6000 RAM running EXPO.
anything to do with fast startup function?

>>106561702
and it takes gigantic amount of effort to make video game engines run using multiple cores

>>106561721
>check cooler height on the spec sheet
>check case cpu clearance on the spec sheet
there's your answer

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>gay-md

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My new monitor has a 1/4 inch socket on the stand (for using a full fat camera as a webcam, I guess) and I'd like to somehow use it to mount one of those chink long monitors. I know it's a long shot, but does anyone have experience with something similar? I guess I'll first have to order the display, measure it and then order a custom 3D-printed part.

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>>106561990
>for using a full fat camera as a webcam, I guess
all high end webcams support 1/4 natively

>>106561239
>let it be on its merry way because we have money to make
you'd think that they would want to make more money by releasing a game that more people can reasonably play

>>106562043
execs and shareholders run this industry now, less time making money is more money wasted, simple as.

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when upgrading ram does it need to be the exact same make and model or can it be a different manufacturer as long as speeds, generation and size are the same?

>>106562100
does it fit in the fucking socket?
then it should work

https://x.com/hytebrand/status/1958574840488608220
Anyone buying?

>>106562100
Generally you only have to match frequency and latency but for DDR5 you should also check that it has the correct overclocking profile for your platform (XMP for Intel or EXPO for AMD).
>>106562120
This approach can also work but it's not 100%.

>>106561518
Your manchild slop doesn't even use these 8 cores most of the time

>>106562128
Consider suicide.

>>106562128
Does it come with estrogen pills?

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>>106562120
>>106562134
is the worst ddr5 generally better than the best ddr4? should i skip adding more memory and just get ddr5

>>106562250
Only some Intel platforms can use both DDR4/5. In that case it might be worth it, it depends on a few factors. What's your current CPU/motherboard/memory?

>>106562250
not for gaming, no
top tier ddr4 competes with mid/high tier ddr5

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Damn I don't want to get rid of my Corsair C70 but I dont have a use for it

>>106561746
>using sleep
>for any reason, ever
LOL dude that shit never works right wtf are you thinking
Sleep and fast boot are basically the same thing anymore which is what causes so many problems. How often are you sleeping it and then trying to resume without fully restarting? And check the Windows event viewer, should tell you WTF its doing and the power states

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>>106562296
i9 10900k, prime z490-v and two stick of whatever this is
>>106562302
i was thinking instead of spending 60 or so on getting the same ddr4 i would just upgrade to some random ddr5 now for not too much more

>>106562373
your 10900k doesnt support ddr5
it only works with ddr4

>>106561746
Stop doing that and either leave it running or full shutdown

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>>106562390
fvck my stupid nigger life

>>106562390
so i just buy more of whatever it says in the screenshot? i think i would be fine with 32gb

>>106557688
what the fuck did they do to Microsoft Edge? why is it refusing to save cookies from websites I tell it to when deleting all browsing data on close? some new update recently broke it.

>>106562321
>>106562392
I think it's the GPU driver, based on event viewer. I never used sleep before, but switching to DDR5 RAM doubled my boot times and it pissed me off, so I figured I'd give this a shot. but I guess I'll just deal with the longer boot times on my newer more expensive computer

>>106557688
NVIDIA HIDES POWER DRAW IN THE CPU WHICH IS WHY THEIR DRIVERS HAVE A CPU OVERHEAD. DO NOT PAIR AN NVIDIA GPU WITH A BUDGET CPU OR YOU WON'T GET THE PERFORMANCE SHOWN IN REVIEW VIDEOS.
>>106557766
>9800X3D
SHOW ME THE RESULTS WITH A WEAKER CPU.

>>106559423
4k gaming is a meme. especially if you care about high fps and refresh rates, which is what makes games look and feel good.

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>>106559638
all desktop 4k displays are trash because they're too small.

>>106559407
27" 1440 is within Windows design limits, and I have 4k at 150% scaling which makes it 1440, at 27" and it's fine. you might just be blind.

>>106562424
>switching to DDR5 RAM doubled my boot times and it pissed me off
There may be a BIOS setting to tell it to stop doing memory training every boot, iirc. I think that may be causing the longer boot up, at least I remembered something like that.

>SHOW ME THE RESULTS WITH A WEAKER CPU.
5800X3D is significantly 'weaker" in many regards and is pretty damn close in this one vid, and the trend is the same generally on other games and general benchmarks but I cant be bothered to find a vid. Tl:dr CPU has more impact at 1080p but in general it effects the 1% lows the most

>>106562443
2nd half meant for >>106562426

>>106562433
You're retarded if you game below 4k in 2025 when DLSS4 exists. The quality jump is gigantic. Anything above 100 fps will feel the same anyway.

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>>106562446
I am doubly retarded, vid link https://youtu.be/1jKmxZ4sLkM?t=245

>>106562443
5800x3d is not significantly weaker wtf are you smoking.
show me the i3s i5s r3s r5s people are ackshually putting in budget builds, not what was flagship a few years ago.

>>106562443
>There may be a BIOS setting to tell it to stop doing memory training every boot
I did do that, and it dropped my boots from 30 seconds to 20 seconds. But my old AM4/DDR4 build which I still use in another room boots in 10 seconds. I know this is some serious first world problem shit now that I'm typing it out, but come on what the fuck

>>106562448
>YOU'RE RETARDED IF YOU DIDN'T BUY A $3000 GPU
you're not reaching 100 fps in most games without a 4090 or 5090.

>>106562417
its probably easier to just buy a fresh kit of 2x16gb 3600mhz ram since every 3000mhz kit you buy comes with random memory randoms from samsung, micron, nanya or sk hynix

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>>106562471
Thanks for proving you're retarded

>>106562448
i'm still waiting for a 2160pUW with anti-blur

>>106562477
>no argument
concession accepted.

>>106562486
>YOU'RE RETARDED IF YOU DIDN'T BUY A $3000 GPU
>you're not reaching 100 fps in most games without a 4090 or 5090.
There doesn't need to be an argument when you're flat out wrong for both these statements lmao

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>>106562461
>5800x3d is not significantly weaker wtf are you smoking.
I mean it literally is, its 2 generations old with slower memory and an immature version of the 3D cache. You said weaker, you didnt specify budget trash ya dingus.

Google it yourself if youre going to be a faggot about it

>>106562466
The simple solution is to leave it on. Also checked

>>106562473
ok thanks nigga

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>>106562509
you don't have a budget gpu or a 4k monitor. go eat a dick like the fat faggot you are.

>>106562529
>adhominem
Now THAT'S a concession. Cope and cry while I enjoy my 4k oled 100+ fps on my 5070ti, kek

>>106562562
>playing games released before the ps5

>>106562618
>poorfag cope

Luv my 5070, simple as

Is it a good idea to replace my 4060 (bought 2 years ago new, still on warranty) with used 3080ti?
X2 raw power, still supports DLSS, can be undervoted to ~260w, $350. My PSU is 650w.

>>106562562
>>106562883
>>106562897
5000 series GPUs still have nonstop driver issues on Windows and Linux so I sold mines for 9070xt.

>>106562901
Same but I switched from a 5090 to a 9060xt

Just put together a new rig, using a ryzen cpu for the first time and these temps are making me extremely anxious. Decided to go ahead and just stick with the stock cooler to save money, as stock cpu coolers have served me just fine in the past, but I've always had intel cpus and they never got up to fucking 90C. I know this is just how Ryzens are supposed to be and everything online says its normal, but I don't fucking like it. Do I shell out another hundo for a Noctua cooler, or just stop worrying about it?

>>106563080
what cpu, and high temps during benchmarks or normal usage?
spend less than half a hundo for a thermalright instead

>>106563080
any modern CPU is going to be hotter than your old skylake i5, that's just how it is

>>106563080
CPUs, including Intel, have used granular temperature-sensitive boost algorithms for the better part of a decade now. Feel free to buy an aftermarket cooler, if nothing else it'll be quieter, but don't expect it to run at 70C max like an old 22nm design because the chip will see that it has more thermal headroom and adjust clocks accordingly. You can, of course, modify this behaviour by setting a lower power limit with PBO.

>>106563095
R7-8700F. While idling and just farting around on the internet the temps are fine, generally around 30C. But playing modern games at high settings its jumping up to 85-90C pretty quickly, which I'm led to believe is pretty normal for Ryzens?

>>106563142
with a stock cooler at default fan curve that seems normal

Reminder that what's currently the xx90 tier cards used to be called the Titan tier cards, and nobody ever claimed that they were the go-to or intended choice for max graphics AAA gaming.
Nowadays? Anything below the 5090 is seen as a poorfag tier card.

>>106563535
If you're buying a XX90 card for gaming, you should be playing at 4K, otherwise it's a colossal waste of money. I will never understand why 2K and 1080p users buy these cards, it's pointless.

>>106563142
>But playing modern games at high settings its jumping up to 85-90C pretty quickly
Get a better cooler dude that's pretty self explanatory

>>106563607
The GTX1080 was good enough for 4k when it came out. No DLSS, no framegen.
Can the 5080 do the same? Maybe, probably not, and in any case it doesn't matter, because it's twice the price.

>>106563622
Global illumination and RT are to blame. It does look good though! In most cases at least.

>>106563607
I have a 5090 for 1440p cause most games with fancy graphics can't even hit 60 fps on 4k without using shit scaling.

>>106560434
That's what I use daily. It's great value under 200 euros, but maybe not the best

>>106557688
why are you listing so many ktc monitors there? is that a good brand?

>CPU - i5-11600K + be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4
>MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Gaming X
>Motherboard - Gigabyte Z590M
>RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws V DDR4 32 GB 3200 Mhz
>SSD - Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1 TB
>PSU - 650W CORSAIR CX650M

Have 100$ to spare, thought of upgrading my SSD to Crucial T500 1TB, but realized it might be a useless upgrade considering the 970 is still perfoming flawlessly.

What should I upgrade (in the future) or should I still marinate on this build?

I mostly play on 1080p@120Hz or 1440p@60Hz for more cinematic games.

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>>106557688
anyone recognize this brand of motherboard?
msi? asus?

>>106563999
the sticker says asus rtx4080 tuf oc

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>>106563999
>nearly half power stages missing
thats an assus alright

>>106564003
>>106564126
wait is this motherboard or gpu??

>>106564150
You need to be over 18 to post here

>>106564176
sar im 22

Is a 5700x paired with a 5070 likely to last a good few years at 1440p if I'm fine with DLSS quality or turning settings down to medium/low? I'm probably not going to play too many unoptimized unrealslop games but it'd be nice to feel like I could.

I'm trying to ride out the rest of AM4's viable lifespan by upgrading my GPU and need to figure out where I'll be bottlenecked.

>>106564176
>You need to be over 18 to post here
You need to not be a retarded faggot to post here

>get 64GB ram while motherboard specs say max 32GB
>cannot run memtest86 because computer turns off at first pass because (I suspect) my cpu cooling is garbage (imagine homeless tier)
Should I keep going or is there risk of shit breaking?

When can I buy the Arc Pro B50 in Europe?

>>106564209
It depends on your expectations, but I would say no, non-X3D AM4 chips are already starting to show their age. The low VRAM of the 5070 could also be an issue (even when it comes to just being able to run some future titles).

>>106564261
Your computer turns off because the OS is trying to address the 32.01 gigabyte of RAM, your motherboard shits itself because it does not know what to do with that and computer restarts.

Does the same test fail when you have 32GB of RAM?

>>106564288
It is a sign from god for you to NOT buy an Arc in Europe.

>>106564301
I apologize for not specifying it but the computer turns of when running memtest under 16GB RAM.
I have not tried 32 or 64GB

>>106564261
>"suspects" cooling sucks
>doesn't actually check the temperature

>>106561222
>I like the one on the right better
That is because glossy will always look objectively better even in light rooms because better contrast, better colors, clarity etc, because of light not being dispersed across the shit like matte
in dark rooms maybe insignificant or smaller
it's obvious

>>106561230
>>106561285
samsung s95d on left and s90d on right I believe

>>106564261
>>106564315
Check your actual temps and try a different stick.

>>106564315
If your cooling really is homeless-tier then the PC could be turning off when CPU overheats as a safety measure.

Run a Prime95 benchmark and see if PC also dies.

>>106564321
I don't know if there is a way to check cpu temperature during the memory test. This was my first time doing it.

>>106564336
Run literally any other stress test in OS like >>106564331 or OCCT.

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>>106557688
>gigabyte finally unfucked the IO on their new x3d aorus master
that wasnt something i expected to see this year

>>106564372
>>106564331
>>106564330
prime95 didn't overheat the CPU (at least not to shutdown levels).
64GB RAM memtest didn't turn off the PC.
I can only think that something was wrong with the sticks which added up to 16GB. Everything works fine for now. I will run a full memtest later
Thank you all for contributing to solving of this issue.

>MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI
good buy today or nah? Gonna pair it /w 9950X3D
stumbled on it while looking for black mobos

>Year 2025
>400 to 450 bucks GPU, supposed mid range card cannot give you even close to 60fps performance at max detail and FHD
>need some retarded jewish trickery with fake frames

Marketing works, see muuh MEGAPIXELs in cameras, at least it worked for nearly a decade.

>>106564296
Ok thanks, I might see if I can hold out for the 5070 super for the extra vram. Since I already have a 5700x it doesn't really make sense to upgrade it to an x3d so I might just have to get a new GPU and pray the games I want to play aren't CPU heavy.

>Poland pricing dropped
9070XT - from 3000 PLN (825 USD)to 2830 PLN (780 USD)
9070 - from 2630 PLN (723 USD) to 2300 PLN (630 USD)

9070 looks really promising. Also that relative low wattage. Any other power efficient GPUs like this?

>>106564209
DLSS 4 transformer model at quality or balanced actually looks really good it's a no-brainer to turn it on. Setting Textures to medium instead of high or ultra can also help with VRAM. Ive had a 5070 for a few weeks myself and it's been great for 1440p, albeit I have a 9600.

It's very easy to lower vram, don't prevent yourself from a good deal because of vram concerns. As long as you have over 8gb at 1440p or above you'll be fine. I have a 10gb card and at native 1440p I have no vram issues in any game, obviously I'll read about optimized settings beforehand so I know what to expect, but in the worst case scenarios all I've had to do is drop textures from the highest to one setting lower which is usually from ultra to high. I have a 10gb card so a 12gb card will be fine. I even use it to play at 4k* (with dlss*) and have no issues.

>>106564951
>optimized settings
The issue is most niggas refuse to read a Reddit post or watch a Digital Foundry video and copy the optized settings. They want to put everything at ultra and get 144 FPS on a 5060.
Back in the day this simple trick doubled my RDR2 FPS without any noticeable visual sacrifices.

>>106564977
Being retarded in this case might actually help because games do auto settings anyway most of the time nowadays which will take into account vram and other things. So if someone doesn't touch the settings at all it will probably work just fine for them. As an alternative you can get the nvidia app to automatically do settings for you in games and it even has a performance/quality slider which will automatically adjust settings based on where you set the slider, but you can just leave it as default and have a good experience based on the default settings nvidia sets for your hardware configuration.

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>>106564126
>nearly half power stages missing
Because it's not powering a 4090 or a 5090?
Those VRMs can already deliver over 600A of current; the average power draw of that card is less than 350W @ sub 1.05V (less than 330A needed, 25A per 50A power stage).
The vBIOS' voltage limit is the performance bottleneck, not the "missing" power stages.

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>>106564866
5070 is power efficient too but its worse than the 9070

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>>106564734
That guy is exaggerating the vram issue pretty fucking hard. Super cards are still a rumor, and the rumors on the rumor is that they were pushed back into 2026 at least.
12gb isn't an issue now, even at 4k the list of games you would have to worry about it with on max settings are very short, maybe 4/5 years from you have to worry about setting textures to high or medium over max or something like that in SOME games. You've probably got a decade before "issues starting games" becomes a problem, every game is still playable on 6gb today and the ps6 is probably going to try and stay cheap so...


He's totally right about anything am4 that isn't x3d though

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>>106564866
Pretty much all of blackwell with an undervolt. 5060ti can be around 100w, 5070 150ish, 70ti under 200.
>106565517
Ignore this retard

>>106565601
>>106564866
Noted. Thanks

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3090ti aged like milk

>>106565601
5070 undervolt crashes the driver even harder and the nvidia driver has lots of issues on windows & linux as of todays date

>>106565635
Yeah make sure that you note that Nvidia's driver is fucking broken using latest or old>>106565517

>>106565635
>>106565601
Yeah dont undervolt blackwell you get stutter and blackscreen look at 1% low in image up there

>>106564329
Weird the older model looks better than the newer one.

>>106565655
i wonder how the 4k capable 6950xt is doing today

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>>106565655
>3090ti aged like milk
Fine with DLSS4. 6900/6950 XT, fucked.
7900 XTX stuck with bitch-ass FSR3 or 1440p FSR4.
Two halo-tier Radeon cards are not aging well.

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Why are all of these recent ue5 games seem more amd favored? Is it just console optimization?
Why are sh2 and wukong the opposite?

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>>106565761
Because these devs are content with 30 FPS console optimization for UE5 games, some are a bit more ambitious and target 60 FPS.

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>>106557688
i doubt anyone here has this but ill post it just in case

>>106565808
This is my greatest fear. I'm still probably going to try an AIO next build but man I wish air was competitive.

>>106565822
AIO leaks are very uncommon due to asetek having a near monopoly on AIOs and reusing the same design across brands up until last year

>>106557688
Do cats on PC cases improve 1% lows?

>>106565822
its snake oil if you arent removing the integrated heat spreader and also useless if the cpu tdp is <65w

>>106563898
youtuber shilling

>>106565917
no but it makes you notice them less

>>106559276
I switched from 3060 Ti to 7800 XT, that worth it for sure. 9060 XT eh... maybe... but I'd get something better. Wait another gen like anons said and get a mid-high tier.

Are Ryzen CPUs only supposed to boost to their advertised box clock? I remember reading that they auto overclock as much as possible until they hit 95C then downclock to a stable 90C and stay there.
Mine only goes up to the advertised speed at 80C and doesn't move.

>>106566000
they will boost until they hit one of the limits like clockspeed limit, power limit, current limit or thermal limit
in your case it maxes out and doesnt go further because of the clockspeed limit

>>106565808
that cooler was way overpriced and overhyped

Air Wins Again

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>>106565808
these companies are clowns that keep putting aesthetics over performance

I am on windows 10 and need to upgrade to 11

but how do i upgrade to a linux version that looks like windows 10 which one was that again the one with easy clicky icons

i dont wanna sudo shit i just want comfy no bloatware pc experience for internet and games and shit what do i do

>>106566079
>I am on windows 10 and need to upgrade to 11
No you don't

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What the fuck is this nvidia.

>>106566079
Zorin is the OG Winblows-like GUI experience
AnduinOS is the insanely promising newfag on the block
grab an ISO and test them out m9

>>106566134
my pc is slow af something has to change

>>106566147
how about mint

>>106566154
>my pc is slow af
well if you want a slower one win11 will do that

>>106566144
what do you want nvidia to do differently

>>106566154
it's a sane choice although it's not riced to look like W10/11 out of the box. Would recommend it regardless

>>106566144
transistor count spammer was right

>>106566144
90 series is the only performance upgrade you get, this is widely known.
buy 90 or suffer.
why do you blame nvidia when amd is to blame too?
in fact, you should kneel down and unzip Jensen's pants and swallow his BAC entirely for the sole purpose of him delivering you any performance jumps every 2 years at all

>>106565689
they are the same tech and panel just the 95 can get a bit brighter but one is glossy
so yea

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>>106566185
Their business model
>Gnu/jihad is a far right conspiracy to dismantle copyright throughout the west and beyond, these "chuds" consider intellectual property as fake and "gay" as compared to normal property rights. A threat to our democracy.
>Imagine a world where everyone has their own AI and any bozo with the means can make a X3D chip or CUDA, a world where chuds run the economy based on competitive products rather than competing which kegal firm can hoard the most licenses and monopolies

>>106566189
what does riced even mean I keep seeing it on /g/

>>106566193
Is the 9060 XT usbe beyond gayming?

>>106566069
Yet I'm the schizo for not having full faith in the reliability of the shit spewed out of the market.
It's always
>your wrong for having concerns, no proofs
Yet no apology when shit actually happens.

>>106562426
Is intel ok?

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JENSEEEEEN I SPENT 1400 DOLLARS ON THIS SHIT

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>>106566262
changing how your graphical interface looks in order to make it look more appealing / user friendly / akin to something you're used to
picrel is Zorin which mimicks W out of the box

>>106566329
>They have to deep throat Trump to not go bankrupt and leech off other people's money taken from them by force
Actually a decent time to invest desu

>>106566342
>no DLSS 4
>no MFG
>no CUDA
>poor ray tracing performance
>have to do tech gymnastics to get Stable Diffusion to work
>godawful drivers
>GDDR6
>outrageous power consumption
>nonexistent market share
When will Radeon keks stop coping?

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>>106566342

https://wccftech.com/loongson-confirms-the-3c6000-cpu-series-will-see-large-volume-shipments-next-year/
>recently launched 3C6000 series, which aims to offer somewhat competitive performance for the domestic server, is now set to achieve mass production/shipment soon. The company just announced new updates in an investor relations record form, confirming that their system-level cooperation with OEMs is going well.

LOONGSON WON

THANK YOU LOONGSON

B880 when

>>106566342
you spent $1400 on youtube premium?

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I am not partaking in any Nvidia vs AMD Gpu discussion until AMD has a 90 series competitor.
end of. simple as. shush.

>>106566193
Top 10 GPUs on the planet:

GeForce RTX 5090
152%
GeForce RTX 4090
116%
GeForce RTX 5080
100%
GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER
89%
Radeon RX 7900 XTX
88%
GeForce RTX 5070 Ti
87%
Radeon RX 9070 XT
83%
Radeon RX 7900 XT
76%
GeForce RTX 3090 Ti
76%
Radeon RX 9070
75%

transistor count is king btw.

>>106566342
yeah that's what happens when you try to play a game the way AMD want you to play it which is on console btw lmao

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What exactly went wrong with the 7900xtx? Was it the worst gpu release of all time?

>>106566484
>>106566144
11% more transistors for 2fps sounds like a bad bargain
is this one of those fake jeet/paki benchmarking channels

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Radeon sisters I think I'm losing my faith, please reassure me.
Why are we always waiting just one more gen for everything to be fixed, why can't things just be good all the time like they are on Nvidia?
Will redstone really fix the issue of every instance of heavy rt or path tracing being totally broken or unplayable slow on my 9070xt?

None of you have a 9060/XT or 9070/XT. Everyone has an Nvidia GPU. Steam charts don't lie.

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>>106566576
Not true, I'm transexual and own a 9070xt and the now obsolete 1080p gpu 7900xtx (24gb)

>>106566506
gamegpu is fake bench site

>>106566154
Don't do mint just trust me. It's dated

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>>106566616
Russians and Americans are the only people who know how to benchmark video games

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>>106566650
who cares
posting fake benchmarks on /g/ should be bannable

>>106566677
Prove it's fake, seems more reputable than Hardware Unboxed

>>106566655
that monster flavor is kinda shit
ultra white ftw

>>106566705
Bad Apple is great, it tastes like an alcohol free somersby.

>>106566705
the pink berry one is best, but i rotate my addiction to monster energy zero, ultra white, strawberry, the pink berry one, and the occassional peach flavoured one.

The purple one is nigger-tier grape drank tho, i hated it.

>>106566650
hey who cured Patel?

>>106566576
7900xtx gigachad here, cope. I'll upgrade next gen to whatever flagship AMD put out, probably. It needs to be at least 50% stronger than my xtx tho.

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>>106566723
okay that's actually based though, enjoy your Radeon bwo

>>106566655
I've drank a few of these ngl
but I icemaxx a glass and pour it up

>>106566705
white gets old real quick
all monster genuinely do
too sweet garbage

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/g/ - Monster Energy

>>106566875
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>>106564176
Why ? There are geniuses who suffer because of public education. Like myself.

>>106566655
Drink Java monster unless you have heart problems