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>arch but stable
why is it not popular?
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Install Exherbo Linux.
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>>106569364
It's nothing like arch
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>>106569364
https://lunduke.locals.com/post/5815715/dont-wave-the-lgbt-flag-suse-opensuse-says-you-are-rotten-flesh

Need a say more?
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>>106570335
"I suck Lunduke's dick" would have taken less characters
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>>106569364
Almost no software support unless you compile, remember that 99% of loonix users now are essentially windows rapefugees, it's too hard if you want to do more than just open libreoffice, chrome or steam
>BUT FLATPAK
Still offers a limited catalog of software to install
I don't say any of this as a bad thing, the point is that only retard-proof distros are popular for a reason, anything that makes people use their brains is ruled out
>BUT OFFICE IS ENOUGH IF YOU HAVE A JOB
Then why pick this over any other distro? How is it more stable than any of the other troonix distros out there? If you are just going to use default apps, even arch will do the trick, there is no reason for your OS to shit itself no matter what it is, unless you are screwing up with configs and more yourself
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Almost all the distro alignments were set 10 or 20 years ago. Only trannies on the internet ever "distro hopped" so most people stick with the one they ran with years ago based on what it was like at that time.
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>>106569364
Constantly changing things like the logo, release schedule, desktop, yast, installer, selinux, etc. and very confusing communication
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>>106569364
no codecs
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>>106569422
true cuz Arch constantly crash.
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>>106569364
What do people do with their systems to make them break? I've been using Arch for years now and I don't think it's ever crashed or been fucked by an update.
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>>106572487
Incompetence. Linux is made for experienced user, so they're just being filtered.
I'm on Tumbleweed for 5 years and haven't seen any problem or crash (except firefox crashed few times, but it was solved with zypper remove firefox)
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it's great

you can run any arch program with distrobox
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>>106572597
Why not install arch at that point?
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>>106569364
I do want to like it, I like the idea of a slightly slower paced rolling release model(especially now with Slowroll), but it's probably the system that has given me the most issues over the years. Which is not saying much since I've mostly just used Fedora, Arch and Tumbleweed, but still.
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arch is stable without this cuck os
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It's boring and works, like germans, so it does not attract a whole lot of attention despite being very important, like the germans.
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the package manager sucks if you're not in Europe, having to use OPI third party repos just for codecs. NVIDIA driver release cycle follows the enterprise/server release schedule so you're six months behind arch for any major features and fixes. there's not one thing there's just a lot of little things. I think slowroll though is superior to manjaro though.
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>>106573114
>the package manager sucks if you're not white
based
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>>106569364
I have no reason to use this over fedora, which is functionally the same thing and you'll probably have less issues with it. The only pro that it has is probably backups enabled out of the box.
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>>106572317
This, would be a near perfect distro otherwise.
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Why would I use anything other than Ubuntu
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>>106573237
So you don't send your search results to Amazon
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>>106572317
1.$ sudo zypper install OPI
2.$ opi codecs
Problem solved lmao
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>>106573258
Hey gramps, how's life in 2012?
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>>106573284
The distro should just do it for me.
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>>106569364
I've been using this for years and it's great. There's a non-zero chance I'll keep it forever.
>>106570377
There's tons of software support, what are you even talking about? RPM packages work and Flatpak and Appimage works in addition to regular packages. Also there are things like Distrobox now which don't require you to change the whole distro for one package.
>>106573114
>Nvidia
Some people just never learn. Like a wife returning to the abuser no matter what others tell her. It's hard to even feel sorry for her at this point.
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>>106573296
It does, after you enter two commands.
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>>106573294
Funny cause you're the one using packages from 2012 LMAO
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>>106573301
Dude, my grandma doesn't know how to do that. Furthermore, I shouldn't have to do that anyway; it should just install the codecs by itself without user input. If I can't immediately go on YouTube and watch a video, you've fucked up.
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>>106573321
When you're your own grandma, things must be quite funky in your family. Not something I wish to be part of.
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>>106573321
Your grandma isn't going to install the OS herself either. There's partitions and other stuff it asks during the installer. What does it matter if the person installing it has to run a command afterwards? Also I'm pretty sure you don't even have to install the codecs anymore, I've been switching packman repos back to openSUSE repos and everything still works, so the regular repos have codecs.
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>>106573329
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkX7IW7jpMw
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>>106569364
No linux distro is reliable, it's practically inevitable that you'll have major issues you'll need to access the cli no matter what if you use it for long enough, especially not a fucking rolling-release distro. openSUSE is not popular because it's very corporate and EU oriented, and not very user friendly at all, small group of maintainers, not a lot of support by software, and generally feels like Fedora-lite, a shittier and less polished version of Fedora but I guess you sell your soul to IBM a little bit less by using it.
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>>106573321
Your grandma is a sexy whore.
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>>106572317
what happened to knowing how to install shit?

linux users are not what they used to be.
you're not supposed to be proud of being a lazy fuck.

>>106573229
what you can run on one distro you can run on another because they are all the same except shit like init systems or desktop environment, other than that, its all the fucking same.
most distros use one of like 3 actively supported kernel versions at any given time.
those three kernel versions are able to run the same shit because its all just linux.

most of you seem to run linux just so you can say "i run linux" without even trying to install some fucking codecs.

just imagine...
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>>106569364
Not a big issue but the repo kinda sucks misses a lot of shit. pacman does not solve this problem you still have a lot of outdated packages that are included in fedora/ubuntu by default. Distrobox solves the issue kinda but then you have bloated packages which leads me to my next issue fucking zypper(?) taking up way too much space and never reporting how much bloat it has. Sometimes it is 40gb that gets wiped after 2-3 months but there is no option to wipe it right now.
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>>106573448
>what happened to knowing how to install shit?
Linux users are supposed to be using a better operating system than Windows and Mac. Which it is, but there is really no benefit to not having this shit preinstalled. Isn't it GOOD if I don't have to do it myself?
>you're not supposed to be proud of being a lazy fuck.
Why are you using a desktop environment instead of posting from a TTY, you lazy fuck? Hell, why aren't you using LFS, you lazy fuck? Why don't you write your own compiler while you're at it?
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>>106573735
do i hear you complain that windows doesn't bundle with everything?
no. you install it like a good boy.
now do the same on linux.
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half of the fun of setting up a computer is installing shit.
when you're done, its working and you don't have to do it again in a long while as long you can sit still for 5 minutes and you have work to do.
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>>106573748
>do i hear you complain that windows doesn't bundle with everything?
Yes you do???? Go search up "dualshock 4 windows" to see the plethora of cognitive dissonance, FUD, retardation, and rage the average user has to go through to make a non-Microsoft controller work on Windows. The Linux kernel actually comes with fucking drivers whereas on Windows you need to do a billion things each install. And I'm not even getting into removing telemetry and all the other Windows bullshit that really pisses people the fuck off, which again you just don't have to do on Linux. Don't get me wrong, installing codecs on OpenSUSE is a lot less setup than making Windows workable, but:
>A. You shouldn't have to do it anyway
>B. If I should have to do it, make it a button instead of a terminal prompt I have to search up
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>>106570335
>Scam SUSE
>They decide they no longer want to get scammed by you
>They don't even say you were fired so you can scam other companies
>Screech that SUSE is Nazi
>Screech that you're anti-gay despite being the architect of globohomo

Why are you like this, Jew?
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>>106572963
so I don't have to worry about bugs?
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- stupid, convoluted installer
- Tumbleweed still has obsolete Yast, despite SuSE dumping it for Cockpit
- The default install patterns are super bloated so you have to spend 15 minutes configuring things in a not so obvious menu.
- EU centric, SuSE just isn't very popular in the USA
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>>106574106
>- EU centric, SuSE just isn't very popular in the USA
And that's agood thing.

>Complaining about the installation process
Literally skill issue. That's how linux installation did look like even5-6 years ago and still looks outside of ubuntu and its clones.
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>>106574142
Nah, everyone worth anything has Calamares or equally simple installers by now.

If they want to have Windows refugees, they should integrate Agama already, not keep this Yast clusterfuck.
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>>106569364
>german
I don't trust anything that comes out of this dystopian shithole
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>>106574170
>If they want to have Windows refugees,
Opensuse is literally for development of paid Suse.
>If they want freeloaders of doubious intelligence who do not pay nor contribute back
Why would they?

Ubuntu is sponsored by the economic secret tribes and Microsoft, as their way to extend-extinguish Linux. They want people to use "free ubuntu". They also get money from public cloud offerings. But not ao much any other distro.
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>>106574213
They say so right on top of their page?

>Make your old Windows 10 PC fast and secure again!
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>>106569364
Would've been my absolute favorite distro if it wasn't for the codecs mess.
> But you can install all the codecs you want from Packman!
Yes, installing them is not the problem. The problem is when you can't update your system because the Packman repo is not in sync with the main repos, so you have to wait for the Packman maintainers to finally decide to update Mesa or whatever to the latest version.
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>>106574653
I thought the so-called "Essentials" from Packman never go out of sync?
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>>106573284
Disagreed, a distro should "just work" for simple things like this. I've used OpenSUSE for years now but this is a major pain point for it. Maybe that's actually speaking for it as they can't legally do anything about it and there aren't any bigger issues with the distro.
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>>106574213
openSUSE is weird, because technically it's completely seperate from SUSE the corporation, unlike Fedora that's owned by RedHat which is in return owned by IBM. Also openSUSE Tumbleweed is meant to be the distro that SLE or SUSE Linux Enterprise uses to build off of, so they take tumbleweed packages, fix them up, set them up for their business shit and run with it, but often times they nowadays add shit even if it's not in Tumbleweed, so there's a massive difference between the two, like completely different distros. On the other hand Leap is based off of SLE, so it's also super different from Tumbleweed. They're all completely different projects worked on by different people.
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>>106574731
Nah, even that goes out of sync. The Packman:Essentials repo is what I used when I used to use Tumbleweed, and it did go out of sync for me from time to time. Also, they moved Mesa to Packman:Extra few months back, so if you want Mesa, you're gonna have to add Extra as well:
https://www.reddit.com/r/openSUSE/comments/1k1npqb/fyi_mesa_has_moved_to_packmanextra/
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>>106573284
I hadn't heard of opi before, that's cool
https://cubiclenate.com/2022/11/10/opi-obs-package-installer/



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