How to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Case Studies, etc.):https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archive, Books & Papers, Music Editorial, etc.):https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18• Tanchjim Bunny (Mild U) - $20• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (V-shape) - $35• Kiwi Ears Cadenza (Mild V) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120• HiBy M300 - $200>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>106550726
Move aside, Lego Asano.
>>106572428I don’t care about non 0$ products
Tfw you bought something decent in 2022 and you still have NOTHING worth upgrading to
What drives people to buy IEMs/cables they can't even wear >>106503670
>>106567003Thanks man! I have lots of stuff to research now.As for tunings, I like bassy/neutral stuff. I had been thinking about the Mega 5-EST.
>>106572652>>106567003Oh, and the Alpha Omega RA ($699). You've probably listened to it or its big brother the Alpha Omega Omega ($2500)?
>>106572652Not a bad pick, M5E is quite decent for bassy/neutral, albeit slightly overpriced in today's market considering the many cheaper JM-1 clones. Though I'll admit the cheaper alternatives like the Crinear Meta/Daybreak and Nicehck Rockies are brighter leaning than the "og" JM-1 set.>>106572671I've heard the AOO but not the RA. Not really that impressed with its bigger brother. It's hard to find demos but if you do intend to blind buy it, I'd suggest you find a used set (so you don't incur too much of a loss from selling it thereafter).>>106568143The conundrum with this train of thought is that the people LITERALLY building your iems believes in driver quality. As you know Symphonium is currently designing their new flagship IEM and I got invited to hear various prototypes with different driver configs. Felix was complaining about how early protos had extremely shitty DDs which lose resolution at higher SPLs and that its a pain in the ass to source for better DDs. So even if you don't believe in techs, you're still buying into products designed/built by engineers that do.
>>106572785>The conundrum with this train of thought is that the people LITERALLY building your iems believes in driver quality.And? Even the most qualitiest of the drivers you can imagine costs fucking nothing. >Felix was complaining about how early protos had extremely shitty DDs which lose resolution at higher SPLswhat kind of SPLs are we talking about here?It really doesn't matter tho it's not a "we need to make our pos cost $1k" kinda problem. Did he elaborate tho? What kind of "better DDs" did he need specifically? Type of construction? Type of diaphragm? Anything?There's also a comfort problem. Hard to beat cheaper smaller IEMs on that front.
>>106572465me with my blessing 2
>>106572509Unironically no one makes ergonomic after market cables anymore.I said "anymore" but honestly I don't think anyone ever did.
what are the best gaming IEMS? mainly play Helldivers 2 and story driven games like Silent Hill and Subnautica. Only ever used Tanchjim Bunny's and Zero 2
>>106573587one that gives you the best imaging and soundstage... >Only ever used Tanchjim Bunny's and Zero 2why do you think you need anything else?
>>106573686idk maybe something above the $20 range has better bass or Treble?
>>106573372Simple 8 core cables from literally any brand + earhooks removed, I can wear those for 20 hours. Not too thick, not too thin, no tangling. Some become stiff over time though.
>>106573706Stop conssoming
>>106573706nah
>>106573869nah
>>106573587VX Pro is easily better than Zero2 or Bunny for gaming, separation and quality bass. It costs $30 more than them, but you're getting 8 BAs and 1 DD.
>>106572785>The conundrum with this train of thought is that the people LITERALLY building your iems believes in driver quality.That is part of the reason why most people are still fooled by driver memes. I can assure you that competent companies understand and play the marketing game, even if they know better.>Felix was complaining about how early protos had extremely shitty DDs which lose resolution at higher SPLsComplete garbage unless he starts using real quantifiable technical terms. The only time I've seen DD sensitivity/efficiency be a problem is with ANC TWS, not some run-of-the-mill passive IEMs.
>>106573587Let me tell ya some cold hard facts;IEMs will NEVER be good for gaminkNo matter how expensive, no matter how much somebody shills one, they will always be inferior to even the cheapest headphones
>>106574333This is true but planar and 8-12BA comes close and costs about the same nowadays
LAN 2 :OO
>>106574333Headphones are so fucking bad for gaming you're better off playing without audio, especially "gaming" headphones. Atrocious tuning and channel matching.
>>106574563Good neutral headphones are still alright for gayming. Gayman headphones are the issue, coonsoomer stuff from steelseries, astro, corsair, kingston etc.
>>106574596I would not use 1DD iems for gayming for example, but a good and well tuned 4-10 driver pos ? Sign me in.
>>106574596Neither matters all that much for gaming
>>106574596If by neutral you mean something like hd600 then it sucks too, all 3d effects barely work on them.
>>106574605It depends on the game. EQ can only do so much
>>106574605Meant for >>106574563
>>106574611Mine are pretty good for gayman, but like I said, use a multi driver pos if you really want to play. 1DD pos sucks dick for gayman.
>>106574616Channel matching is super important for gaming.
>>106574621Mental illness.
>>106574626True. Most are made with dolby gay shit in mind, but that doesn’t rule out single driver cans with good tuning, sensitivity and impedance, but it def disqualifies 1DD pos
>>106574631I don’t care, I am right.
>>106574634You do not hear individual drivers. Most aren't even cross over and play simultaneously. And in case of KZ/CCA the drivers aren't even real lmao. Hence >>106574631>>106574638You are proving the headphone law.
>>106574659Then use your 1DD pos and be happy, like I said, I don’t care.
>>1065746261-3dB of channel imbalance is a nothingburger. Par for the course even on IEMs. If it's more then that's a defective product obviously
>>106574604>not use 1DD for gamingwhy not?>>106574659>not even realyou don't know the real problem. the drivers worked, they were just wired horribly. they haven't done this shit in years lying ass faggot.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBGY9-wlSu4&ab_channel=Hi-FriAudio
Tanchjim Fission Black, it's pretty good. Channel matching is not as perfect as it was with the Origin, but still very good and below 0.4 dB.
>>106574947What was I thinking with that green color.Here's the insertion depth variation.
>>106574955And finally distortion at 105 dB. Overall, very good, like a more relaxed Origin.
>>106574333false
>>106574604>I would not use 1DD iems for gayming for examplethat's retarded
>>106573587>what are the best gaming IEMS?zero 2bunnyqkz hbb
Fox IEM is optimal for fox gaming.
>>106575002now that's bullshit. step away from your device.
>>106575003epz is purely optimized for lgbtqia+
What are some PMPs that have similar /comfy/ levels to the Zune HD? I don't really need EVERYTHING the Zune had, I'd be happy if it could play music and videos. I'd get a Zune instead but I hate the piece of garbage proprietary connector.I never had an iPod and was handed down a Zune and then Zune HD by a family member so I have fond memories of it and the interface/form factor.
>>106572448Who asked.
>>106574634Nigga thinks impedance affects sound quality lmao
>>106575003Cute witch
Should I get some budget option under $20 or just go up to $50 for my first IEM? I see lots of shilling for the zero reds.
>>106575713Reds have a chonky nozzle, might not fit well.
>>106575713>Should I get some budget option under $20yesyou won't get an upgrade in sound until you get to $100ish
>>106575713just be sure you'll be able to push its 7mm nozzle in lol
>>106575057ipods, walkmans
For me, it’s Stax
>>106575355lol they do lol
>>106576696Headphone users were a mistake.
>>106576733>zero:reds come with an impedance adaptorwhy?
Do you use IEMs on mobile or desktop?
>>106576792To put it into your urethra.
>>106576836I accept your consession
>>106576835Outside and at home when it's too late to use speakers.
How do i find out if i want U or V shaped headphone?
>>106576495Why did you buy that pos...
>>106576918EQ
>>106576918buy both a CRA and EM500LM and call it a day. it's fine having and enjoying both flavors. CRA is always fun so blind buy the shit out of it already because its so cheap and thumps n bumps, take it from a certified materials physics master. I taught dr. harman himself, schooled him, shrew as he was. saw him kill a man for asking his wife an impedance question.
>>106577054EA500LM**
