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>if you want degoogle you must buy google phone

LOL
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It's more about the Pixel having the necessary hardware for GrapheneOS to work properly which you'd expect from the fucking creators of Android, but sure it's ironic that Jewgle gets your money for the phone at least.
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If you are so schizo then just don't buy a phone
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>>106582614
idk what the point of graphene is, just buy an iphone or one of those non-google chinkphones if you’re scared of google
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>>106582614
You can just buy some chinkphone and install any rom in it.
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>>106582614
>Jewgle gets your money for the phone at least.
What if I buy it second-hand?
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>>106582718
>You can just buy some chinkphone and install any rom in it.
There is always some things that don't work, no more gps most of the time, sometimes no more microphone or no more camera. Custom roms on chink phones NEVER work fully.
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The only other phone with an unlockable relockable bootloader is the Fairphone and they're in a feud because Fairphone comes preloaded with /e/
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>>106582718
grandpa, did you not hear that they dont allow you to unlock the bootloader? are you forgetting it's not 2012 again?
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>>106582986
>Custom roms on chink phones NEVER work fully.
They do if it's an official LineageOS.
>>106583032
US phones -> locked bootloader
EU phones -> locked bootloader (since this summer, directive something something for your safety, idc, look it up)
CN phones -> hit and miss, Xiaomi is unlockable, + POCO, +OnePlus and OPPO; Huawei/Honor are locked.
China allows them to be flashable, unlike your country, whatever it is.
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>>106582614
what's up with retards mixing hardware and software? what's so hard to understand? remove the google software and your hardware won't phone home sending your dick pics anymore, is this really out-of-reach for the sub-60 iq mouthbreathers on the internet?
>inb4 hurr google can still spy on you through the modem
source?
>inb4 hurr backdoor
who gives a fuck, if you're afraid of backdoors don't use a fucking computer, grapheneos is hardened against malware and allow you to stay out of the google botnet or if you need to connect to it , you can manage what you leak or not, that's what 99% grapheneos want/need, if that's not enough opsec for you then don't use a fucking smartphone and manage your terrorist activities through others channels.
the chimera phone you want does not exist, every single mediatek SoC you find in low-cost hardware have a chinese backdoor, no exception. the fuck we do then? roll on the floor and cry? just use a pixel without the ad network, I'm 100% certain it's good enough for you.
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>>106583073
Does Nothing count as CN, EU or IN?
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>>106582614
They're making their own phone hardware soon, btw. With a major OEM.
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>>106582614
Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.
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>>106583073
xiaomi is not unlockable
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tbf they explain why
not sure what the reason for the constant threads is
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>>106583775
you can unlock it officially or just use some tool on github or xda but it's definitely possible, done it with mine on hyperos
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>>106582614
the only one they currently sell (the 10 series) doesn't support it. You're not supporting google by buying a second-hand phone.
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>>106582614
yes all phones are garbage
(by design)
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>>106583018
What are you on about? Any unlockable phone is relockable. GrapheneOS are just niggers parrotting the """other phones are inSOOYcure""" because they don't feel like supporting anything else (which is fair, just calling everything else insecure because of some random gotchas nobody cares about isn't)
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>>106582614
>what is lineageos
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>>106582986
Always do some research before buying a phone.
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>>106582614
Every other phone at this point is a joke in terms of allowing alternate operating systems use their security features or even basic things like relocking the bootloader. Some phones don't even have a secure element which makes encryption with simple passwords pretty much useless. GrapheneOS together with the google pixel is the only option to successfully counter things like cellebrite and Pegasus.

GrapheneOS itself is not about degoogling perse, but being a secure and private operating system by default. They are happy to support other phones as long as they meet their requirements. See: https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices

If you don't care that much about security, maybe lineageos is more up your ally. You can "degoogle" phones with that as well.



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