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It. Just. Works.
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>>106603993
>Canonical
No.
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i get like 5 fps in dark souls 3 start menu with the EULA agreement. i have a 1660.
nvidia drivers installed as far as i know, the G06 ones. proton is experimental version.
distro is opensuse.
what do? this is just stupid. my old laptop from 2015 ran dark souls 3 on low settings at 30 fps.
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>>106603993
>needs to pay for security updates
>telemetry
>rust in coreutils
>canonical
this distro sucks ass.
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>>106604273
>lie
>lie
>optional
>good
We have a winner!
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Wine's not working. I start winecfg and it makes me wait for eternity, no errors, no warnings, nothing. Proton n shit obvs not working too. Distro's Artix, not like that's important though
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>>106604057
It does just work though

>>106604273
>needs to pay for security updates
I think by default you get all the security updates from Debian, but if you use Ubuntu Pro (free on 5 computers) then you get more security updates
>telemetry
Not that I'm aware of
>rust in coreutils
I think that's coming in the next release, 25.10. I dunno what kind of difference it will make
>canonical
And?
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>>106603911
Cute rat.
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>work computer
>Kubuntu 24.04
>16GB RAM
>Computer freezes completely when it gets to 13+ GB
how do stop this from happening? what's the best RAM settings? do I need a new scheduler?

It came like this:

> NAME TYPE SIZE USED PRIO
> /dev/zram0 partition 256M 0B 100
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>>106604719
you should probably use a normal zswap and a normal swap partition instead of zram swap if you only have 16G
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>>106604719
You need an OOM killer
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>>106604322
>telemetry is a lie
How much are you being paid?
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>>106604926
out of mana killer?
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>>106603911
latest version of dash-to-panel is a buggy mess... why do these niggers push buggy code...
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>>106605023
that's one way you could explain it to kids these days
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>>106605283
because they use high level abstractions which should theoretically work if all lower level dependencies are working, so bugs aren't their problem
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>>106603911
Dash to dock >
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>>106604070
does your hardware acceleration work?
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>>106603911
installed lightweight ubuntu package onto old computer, couldnt run what software i wanted, could not make windows boot media could not install the media tool woeusb nothing working changed to some debian lightweight distro same thing but worse now the root is on a partition i can not extend, another patrition is broken still cant make woeusb what can i do to make windows usb and go back to windows
also tried that chinese multiple boot usb software it didnt work, in that the windows installations i checked were missing drivers or something, wouldnt allow me to use the partition to install windows etc
stuck on linux cant do anything just browse online do not know how to make this windows installation media nothing is working cant add repositories + the tool to make the boot media isnt working
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MPV question
What does this error mean?
[osd/libass] fontselect: failed to find any fallback with glyph 0x1F9C3 for font: (sans-serif, 400, 0
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>>106605895
the subtitles wanted a symbol that's in none of the fonts mpv is configured to use.
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>>106605909
How to fix?
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>>106605947
I've never needed to do that, but you can set the sub fonts in the mpv config. You also need a font that has the missing symbol.
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Disregard the previous post, I couldn't see it after sending it either.
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>>106605861
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>>106604382
try bottles
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i want to buy a very cheap tablet to install linux on. is it possible? do ISO images burn into micro SD cards?
which DE do i choose? GNOME is probably best but it's pretty heavy.
i want to use it to read PDFs and for note taking with xournal, any suggestions?
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>>106604973
>How much are you being paid?
My "pay" is the free updates I'm still getting for my Ubuntu 18.04 mail server, which according to you is a very expensive commodity.
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>>106606496
Bottles uses wine underneath, why do u expect it to work?
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>>106606714
android tablet?
only option is postmarketos
if your tablets drivers are upstreamed you will have almost everything working
otherwise it would depend on your screen, SoC, etc.

arm doesnt have ACPI so you need to build your shit into your kernel preemptively, you need device tree from manufacturer, drivers source code, etc.

so sets say the only drivers you have are for SoC
that means the only thing you can do is boot up your tablet and LITERALLY nothing else
no touchscreen, no nothing
probably wont even have any video output
i assume you would be able to connect over usb networking but i not certain about that

so your best bet is to choose from one of these so at least you for sure have some things working:
https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices#Community
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>>106606866
im assuming they use local install of wine?
given that you can change versions and stuff
the idea is to test if something is wrong with your wine setup
cause bottles is a "just werks" software that comes preconfigured
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>>106606723
And what does that have to do with the known telemetry that you're claiming is not real?
>still using a distro from 7 years ago as a mail server
This is supposed to be a good thing?
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anyone have new wasm for gray capcha
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>>106606891
Lol it actually did work. But the interface looks really fucking gay, so I'd prefer to fix normal wine
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>>106607057
i mean proton if you are using it through steam should also just work but i dont know that you are up to and im not very familiar with wine so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>106607106
Well, it didn't and that's why I thought that bottles won't too. Steam showed that the game started, but it didn't
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>>106607133
you can try launching steam from console and see if it prints anything funny
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>>106607156
I did, 0 useful info
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I had a folder with "#" on it. I used dolphin's search and it found nothing because it showed the folder didn't exist
I removed the # from the folder (renamed) and now I can't open any files from there
mpv for example
>file: Cannot open file '/media/barf/w.mp4#': No such file or directory
How to fix that?
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>>106607252
how are you opening your files?
> '/media/barf/w.mp4#'
this looks really weird
why is there a # at the end?
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>>106607057
You could use the wine flatpak package instead of bottles
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>>106607283
>how are you opening your files?
I open dolphin, I click on the files twice. It was working just fine before. It only adds the # in this specific folder
>why is there a # at the end?
that's what I want to know
my .desktop is:
>Exec=mpv --player-operation-mode=pseudo-gui -- "%U"
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>>106606952
lts gets security updates for 10 years
do you have a specific feature from postfix you would need that wouldn't be in 18.04?
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>>106606870
it doesn't seem a good decision then. i'm afraid the default apps for an android tablet are too slow and the pen movements will become sluggish.
it's almost incredible that for a little more money an ipad is the best option.
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>>106607283
if I change to %f it works but it's really strange, like it has a "#" cached somewhere
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>>106607321
>>106607377
ya weird shit
dolphin bug probably
it works through console as well i assume?
>>106607369
nah its a lifesaver
very easy to do as well, unless you are as retarded as i am and decide to flash partitions through a 3 meter usb cable extension(flash utility doesnt like shitty connection)

allows me to do my projects while touching grass and also i dont need to drag my laptop everywhere
the only downside is you need to find workarounds sometimes cause not everything works properly
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Would it be possible to use a current Debian netinst to install older Debian from archive.debian.org? IIRC, at a certain step it automatically installs some packages from what I assume is "stable". Also, I tried using debootstrap from within the installer, but it... didn't have it in the shell or apt?
>but why?
Because it would be better than hunting down an older install CD
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>>106607447
desu i don't have the patience to debug a shitty android tablet just to make it work with linux. my tinkering era is done
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>>106607516
Have you tried using debootstrap from a different system or livecd like arch?
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>>106603911
Hello /g/ i need some linuxfags to help me with this one.
I've connected my 1900x1200 monitor to my sway arch laptop but i only get resolutions up to 1024p. In windows I could modify the driver configuration to accept the 1900x1200 resolution but no use on linux. I've tried with wlr-randr but to no avail, and the EDID shows up to 1024x768.

Is wayland the issue?
How can i convince this machine that the resolution is there?
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>>106607616
eh.
just had to write a simple script for the battery indicator cause default indicator wasnt always working
took me like 15-20 minutes including the research on the hooks that are provided by the distribution

the rest of my "tinkering" was just visual and ergonomic shit like splash screens, color schemes, fonts, virtual keyboards,etc.

aside from that indicator everything just works
its actually surprising how well it works, i've expected constant debugging as well
but the only pain i experienced with that OS was entirely self inflicted
>>106607695
do you have fucked up EDID in your monitor?
you can try to flash it with i2c or whatever given you find your EDID on the internet

there is also a way to create custom resolutions with x11, not sure if EDID will prevent you from doing that tho

not sure about wayland, i've heard that feature got ebussyed in wayland
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On linux is there a way to change the monitor input from eg hdmi1 to dpi1? I have two computers connected to the same monitor
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After logging in to my laptop (running Fedora 42 KDE) it showed my wallpaper but no start menu/panel and I wasn't able to do anything but press the phyical power button on my laptop to launch the KDE power menu and shut it down from there.
After booting it again it worked like normal, but I would really like to know why it happened.

Is this a known issue? And if it is, is it a KDE or Fedora problem?
I did some g**gling but wasn't able to find this same bug.

I will not be able to trust my computer until I get to the bottom of this!
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>>106607845
maybe this?
https://github.com/rockowitz/ddcutil?tab=readme-ov-file
>>106607878
were you not able to right click?
what do KDE logs say?
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>>106607899
>what do KDE logs say?
Thanks for replying!
This is my first time using the logs, so I don't really know what I'm doing.
I typed "journalctl | grep -i plasma" into Konsole and found the session in question (see attached image).

Help deciphering this would be *greatly* appreciated.
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Is there an FAQ for retards like me so I don't have to bother people

Anyway
>install linux mint (dual booting, but will do a full install once I confirm my windows programs can run with no problems)
>struggling to install nvidia 470, whatever I got multimedia installed at least
>suddenly it can install nvidia
>try but the black screen restart goes in a loop for 40min so I had to shut it off
>now my disk space got raped when it had 800 gb of free space before
Yes I've disabled Timeshift
I checked the harddrive and the culprits are either my root user folder or dev/sda6

And I deleted the journal logs a few minutes ago, but when I check again its piling up to 1.8 gb- is that the culprit?
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>>106608483
Another thing: before I could only boot linux through deleting the quiet splash, but after installing, I was able to boot it without it.
I don't know if that's related in some way.
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>>106608339
you dont really "decipher" these logs, you just look for errors

your WM started normally it seems
tho its hard for me to see, im fucking blind
wonder if it created a virtual monitor or something like that and made your monitor as secondary
this happened to me with x11 once but in that situation i cad my primary laptop monitor disconnected and i had external HDMI monitor
so its not really applicable here

maybe it just fucked up position somehow and cut off your interface?
this is why im asking about right click
>>106608483
>And I deleted the journal logs a few minutes ago, but when I check again its piling up to 1.8 gb- is that the culprit?
your JOURNAL logs are piling up to 1.8 Gb?
what in the fuck is going on on your PC
>>106608499
>Another thing: before I could only boot linux through deleting the quiet splash, but after installing, I was able to boot it without it.
i dont think splash can stop system from booting
honestly sounds like your hardware is fucked
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>>106608549
How would I fix my hardware in this case?

I thought it would be some sort of cache that fucked my pc when I was trying to install the nvidia drive, because I did leave it going for 40 min so maybe data got piled up- can that happen in linux?
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>>106608690
if you run out of disk space your package manager will tell you that directly

if it is a hardware issue (which i dont know if it is cause i have no idea what in the shit is happening on your PC) you should check your dmesg logs for errors
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>>106608690
also next time you can find a command with du and sort on the internet that shows largest folder in your system so that you know exactly what is taking up your space
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>>106608745
yeah the package manager did pop up to alert me that I had no disk space.
>>106608768
I did do the du -h command
dev/sda6 and my user root folder were the two taking up 98% of my space
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>>106608824
well if its literally these folders you can just ls -lah them and see which files are offenders
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>>106608549
>tho its hard for me to see, im fucking blind
Here's a version that's hopefully easier to read for you (I heard something about Comic Sans being more legible to some).
>this is why im asking about right click
This was four days ago, so I'm not completely sure I'm afraid. But I'm like 99% sure there was nothing happening when I clicked or typed anything.
It was like the system was reduced to a wallpaper and a power menu that I could only reach by pressing the power button.
It hadn't frozen either, there was just nothing there.

I do 100% remember pressing keyboard shortcuts (e.g. ctrl+alt+T) without anything happening though, if that's any help.
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>>106603993
literally the worst piece of shit i've ever used
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>>106608867
>Here's a version that's hopefully easier to read for you (I heard something about Comic Sans being more legible to some).
brother
this is worse X)

actually i take it back
this IS more readable, but my retina now has crust
after a second look and googling what the fuck is plasmashell your shit actually crashed at startup (assuming all of this is startup)
there is also something about missing paths, i don't know if this is why it crashed
wonder if you had broken filesystem nodes and next time they just got fixed...
>>106608919
i see you've never used win 8
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>>106608898
>>106608944
weird why did it quote incorrectly
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>>106603911
Is a "You must install .NET desktop Runtime to run this application" error in wine a bad sign that whatever I'm using aint gonna work well or just skill issue?
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Using paru as an AUR helper, when installing a package how can I specify it to use GCC instead of Clang when compiling?
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>>106608868
What are files on linux I can/can't delete?
What is the linux version of (don't) delete system32?
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>>106608996
GCC should be the default set in makepkg.conf
If it's using Clang instead it's because the PKGBUILD or upstream build system has explicitly overriden this so you need to look into how the PKGBUILD and build system works.
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>>106609050
Don't delete Glibc
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>>106608996
correct me if im wrong but dont AUR helpers just git clone and run makefiles?
if this is the case you might have to go into these makefiles and do some "manual labor"
>>106608991
perhaps it just wants you to install NET runtime
after all this is what its asking you to do
>>106609050
in general log files and cache are fine
there isnt really any "useless" files in the system directories (unless you consider apps that you never use as "useless") so you should avoid deleting things

but that doesnt matter anyway cause whatever is shitting up your storage cant be a system critical file anyway because these dont grow in size
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>>106607845
ddcutil like >>106607899 said, but note that once an input is switched the monitor may cut off DDC/CI communication so it may not be possible to control the monitor from the same host until the input is manually switched back.
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>>106608944
Thank you for narrowing it down!
I guess I'll go ask on the KDE subreddit or something like that (or just stop pretending that I dislike Gnome and install that instead lol).

Thanks for the help again
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>>106609184
you can try something more minimalistic
FOSS GUI apps are always in rough shape cause communities dont have millions of dollars to spend on QA teams
this is why CLI is always the most reliable option
it takes people more time fixing software buttons than writing the program itself
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>>106604404
>I dunno what kind of difference it will make
The real difference isn't in functionality but in the license, the want to ditch the GPL license which is a bad thing
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>>106607619
Huh, didn't think to use arch
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>>106609333
>the want to ditch the GPL license which is a bad thing
yep the EEE faggotry 2: electric boogaloo
mit\apahe licenses so that they can steal code directly or train their gay ass AI on it
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>>106609305
>you can try something more minimalistic
Gnome is my idea of minimalistic...
Do you have any suggestions?
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>>106608483
I'm back, when I turned the pc back on, the file disks are no longer bloated- I don't know wtf happened.

My suspicion is the nvidia driver being unable to install properly. I did check on the terminal if I had it and strangely its there- but there's an alert telling me to install.

I'll ignore it for now and continue my wine tests.
Thank you guys for helping out and giving me nuggets of wisdom.
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>>106609400
>Gnome is my idea of minimalistic...
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>>106609420
drop mint and install a real distro
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>systemd
Socket activation was a mistake.
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oh my god....
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>>106609137
>perhaps it just wants you to install NET runtime
Need 8.0, but I've already installed 8.0.
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>>106609400
lxde or xfce are pretty popular
never used lxde
the only problem that i ever had with xfce is one of our PC's at work had it, it was never updated just like the rest of the system and it would always leak memory
but the leak was so slow that it didnt even matter
system would be up for a month and after an entire month it would leak like 2 Gb
and i guess invisible separators are annoying, but thats whatever and maybe they made it better

people also just use tiling WM's
this is as minimalistic as it gets, you literally only install a windows manager and it doesnt come with any software stacks besides a few bars or whatever
some of them dont even come with an app for wallpapers
then you install rest of software that you need yourself
they are also keyboard centric which is very nice if you have a laptop cause fuck touchpads all my homies hate touchpads
>>106609536
yea this is why i would honestly just use shit like proton, lutris or bottles
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>>106609400
lxqt?
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...its rising
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>>106609652
it just really cares about your drive's health so it tries to use your RAM instead
very thoughtful of qbittorrent honestly
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>>106609462
>me when i walk into my room to get something, get distracted, forget what i wanted and then walk out and then repeat it a bunch of times
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wut
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https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/app-misc/calamares-gentoo-livecd
This just got added. Gentoo is getting an official installer, then?
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>>106609752
what does htop/top or free -m say?
>>106609780
arch installation script all over again?
tho gentoomen are usually much more skilled than your dumbfuck transexual arch users
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>>106609793
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>>106609793
>arch installation script all over again?
I think Gentoo once had an installer (as an April Fools' joke). As far as I can tell, this looks like it'll be in the livegui image. I wonder how that'll work, since there's far more things that you have to decide on while installing Gentoo.
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>>106609752
>GUI
Uuuuuuuuuuuugh
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>>106609807
see this is why me and this guy >>106609816
we dont like GUI very much
also what does htop say?
>>106609810
maybe its literally just livecd and then you open a terminal and proceed as usual
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>>106609884
>maybe its literally just livecd and then you open a terminal and proceed as usual
This is how it works right now with the livecd GUI image, this implies that there'll be a GUI installer as well.
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>>106609910
unnecessary labor
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>>106609884
i have btop though
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>>106610025
well what does it say
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>>106603911
Partitioned windows drives (or just NTFS) have problems mounting because of "dirty bits" that only windows can fix, and the linux file system won't ignore it. so it'll give this error:
>Error mounting (insert drive here) wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock
There are several ways i can get around this.
-force ignore and mount anyway (supposedly a very very small chance of data loss)
-"clean" the dirty bit using a linux command
-run windows and clean it there (where its supposedly meant to)
-move all shit off drives and reformat into non-NTFS so i don't ever get this problem in the future
Some people say they run NTFS drives in linux and never have this problem, but still. any thoughts about this? these were drives i pulled off my now-hopefully retired windows 7 computer.
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anyone know what could be causing my pc to partially freeze after login? Doesnt happen all the time but sometimes the background will just freeze and the only thing I can do is move my mouse, clicking on anything doesnt work and keybinds such as logout or console won't work either. Mobo is updated to latest firmware and all components are pretty new
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>>106610202
just because they are new that doesnt mean there isnt an issue with them
a buddy of mine had to replace his brand new samsung ssd because it just decided to die on him, meanwhile the last time i've experienced harddrive failing on me was like 20 years ago

check dmesg and check all your cables
its likely power/storage but it could be anything, could be just a bug
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i enabled this using dconf editor back in january and never bothered about it again, but now it keeps turning itself off every 30 minutes or so for some reason. it's driving me insane
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>>106606714
How about a 2-in-1 or tablet PC like the Microsoft Surface? There's a lot of very cheap under $100 hardware on ebay that should give you the kind of form factor you're looking for without the hassle of trying to find Android hardware compatible with Linux.

Speaking of, I myself bought a very cool old Fujitsu Lifebook T726 to replace my beloved Samsung Galaxy Tab A that I've been using as a digital sketchbook for the last ten years, exactly because Android is such a PITA. Even installing Lineage OS on it wasn't enough to ultimately solve my issues of my storage space being mysteriously filled up by garbage data that I can't seem to effectively root out of my system, although it was at least better than the dumpster fire that was the original Samsung OS, it still is just too locked down and unwieldy.

Is there anyone else here who uses Linux on a tablet/convertible? What's your experience with it?
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>>106610463
>What's your experience with it?
postmarketos wiki answers that question pretty well

its literally just linux on a tablet
some drivers are missing, some things dont work but all the basic stuff does
if you understand what you are getting yourself into its actually pretty great
you get proper desktop experience in a tablet form for only 20$, pretty hard to beat something like that
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can I make a clickable shortcut to an installed package? like for example if I installed the firefox package can I just make a shortcut to click in a file manager instead of having to type "firefox" into a terminal emulator? I'm asking because I'm trying to avoid using a DE.
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>>106611707
dmenu
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>>106611707
What you are looking for is HRT
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>>106611745
no, thanks. I'll leave the tranny shit to you
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>>106610463
Get X390 YOGA
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>>106609752
>>106609521
>looks at graphs and numbers despite not understanding them
>keeps looking
>starts drawing conclusions
No offense, but you may have some cognitive impairment if you can't deduce that maybe those numbers aren't for you but for a systems administrator.
You'll get some notification if and when something has gone wrong, there's no need to look at graphs that you're not yet ready to interpret.
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>>106612279
t. home
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>>106612279
If I wanted BSD I'd use macOS
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>>106612288
skill issue. works on my machines
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>>106612203
k
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Stable (like ubuntu) release or rolling release for a regular user (browser, documents, image editing, some light cusotmization n vidya)? I feel rolling releases break shit now and then, stable releases dont.
pros cons?
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>>106612881
I bet people in here will tell you to use Arch because they seem to love Arch for some reason. I've never used Arch myself. Ubuntu and Debian are what I use (I used Fedora briefly but I don't anymore). I think Debian-based distros (including Ubuntu and Mint) are good for the stuff you describe. Pretty much all Linux software supports Debian-based distros. If you need newer software than what you can get through the apt repos, you can get newer stuff from Flathub, the Snap store, Homebrew, and sometimes AppImages.

Have a look at different distros though if you want, and then decide which one you think will serve your needs best.
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any news on steamos?
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>>106612881
Rolling releases really don't break because it's not like they're packaging untested alpha builds. Rolling releases are meant to package the latest STABLE builds of software (I really hate that there's multiple definitions of stable in software..)

Fact is, stable distros are going to be less likely to patch their bugs, while also being more difficult to use in general due to holding back the QoL improvements that rolling distros receive. Stable is preferred for servers and embedded devices where you don't want a human to have to go back and change even a single setting in any app to accommodate the new shiny features. For desktop use, stable distros are arguably MORE high-maintenance since you will eventually have to set up PPA's for shit.

Stable distros are also absolutely unacceptable for gaming. You've probably been hearing about how Proton delivers competitive or even superior framerates in games comapred to Windows, right? Well, you are not getting anywhere NEAR that level of performance on stable distros because their drivers are too damn old lol. There's a reason none of those techtubers glazing Proton are showing benchmarks in Mint or Ubuntu.
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>>106613056
>>106612881
For the record:
>Stable build
A build marked by a developer as NOT being beta, alpha, or otherwise unready.
>Stable distro
A distro where the software isn't really going to change much until the next version of the distro.
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>another day of 200+ haskell updates during pacman Syuuuu
ehhhh
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>>106613056
>Stable distros are also absolutely unacceptable for gaming
bs tinkertroon cope. every game just werks on my mint
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>>106613056

There will be some update down the line that requires manual intervention. You have to stay in the loop in terms of patch notes. If you don't do that, your system will break down eventually.
I'm not against rolling releases at all but we should be honest about them instead of just idealizing them.
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>>106608483
Might be worth checking the logs to see if it shows anything
>>106608549
systemd-journald's default is to use a size equal to a % of your ram as the max size
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>>106609050
>What is the linux version of (don't) delete system32?
/dev /sys/ proc /etc /usr /bin /sbin /lib
On systemd systems the last three are symlinks to inside /usr
You can delete everything else and it may or may not be regenerated
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what is the AK-47 of distros? reliable and works well enough? or these days it'd be the ar-15, but you get what i mean.
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>>106609434
>a real distro
But he already installed mint
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I'm using pairdrop to transfer files.
Is there some application to use android's wifi-direct/quickshare feature with linux?
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>>106609752
My understanding of ram eating on linux is that qbittorrent is saying it wants to use up 13gb but has not actually used up that much yet. The program you're using doesnt seem to properly separate between buff/cache/virtual ram
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>>106610463
I bought a second hand surface from ebay and everything seems to work with the surface kernel and secureboot on fedora kde. Shame that the battery doesnt last long and to replace the battery requires a really long difficult process
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>>106613056
"Stable" releases are prone to breakage and bugs even though the devs label them as stable.
In a situation like that they could probably just get away with using flatpak steam and wine to get around the out of date mesa issue
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>>106613230
Tried using KDE Connect?
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>>106613230
Not sure if this is what you're looking for but theres a program called localsend or you can set up a ftp/sftp server on your phone with primitive ftpd from fdroid
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>>106613217
Probably debian
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>>106613301
LocalSend would also work
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>>106613283
I do. but it's slow.
BT doesn't work for some reason, and sometimes I need to send and receive files from android devices that don't have KDE connect installed
>>106613301
That's just pairdrop
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>>106613272
Are you going to flatpak all your drivers too? And if you're reliant on flatpaks for everything, what's even the point of a mutable distro? Just get Bazzite at that point.
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>>106613343
Drivers are baked into the kernel and usually dont need to be updooted as often unless you're on bleeding edge hardware.
>Just get Bazzite at that point.
Mask-off moment.
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>>106613328
>That's just pairdrop
So localsend does what you're asking for?
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>>106613305
Debian is massively outdated every version. Even the newest version is outdated by now. No reason to run it besides servers and hobby projects.
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>>106613451
He asked for reliable and works well enough, not latest and bleeding edge updoooot shit.
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>>106613376
No.
Since I need something to use when I don't have internet or the other device doesn't have internet connection.
And doesn't require to install any software on the other party.
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>>106613584
What about setting up a ftp server on your phone and connecting to the phone from the pc via hotspot?
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>>106613635
You mean the other way around, since most people don't know what FTP.
And most browser nuked FTP support from their source code.
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I've got two machines both using pipewire.
I want to stream audio from machine A to machine B.
With low latency as possible.
I can control machine A through SSH too so starting and stoping it from machine B is preferred.
>use AI
I tried and it generated pseudocode that doesn't work.
>Machine A is HTPC connected to TV
>Machine B is small tablet/PC running linux
>I want to watch movies on the big screen while using headphones connected to smaller machine B in order to keep things quite
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>>106609050
the linux equivalent of system32 is /usr/lib*
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>>106611707
https://specifications.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/
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>>106609050
You can delete anything on Linux because freedom.
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thinking about going back to debian or devuan, but this time im going to use xfce, tired of kde.
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>>106613762
>You mean the other way around,
No. I thought you're trying to transfer files between phone and pc?
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Are you buying a geeko pirate t shirt for talk like a pirate day in two days? Me: Yes
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>>106614008
Well yeah.
To be more accurate, I want to make my linux PC ready for sharing files from and to any android device when there's no internet connection.
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>>106609050
Personally I try to only edit stuff in my home directory, and leave all the system files alone. For example there are system-wide config files somewhere, maybe it's /etc or something, I can't remember. Some people edit those directly. But normally you can just override them with your own user-specific config file in ~/.config. Another example is how some people put binaries in /usr/local/bin, but again you don't need to edit that system directory - you can instead put binaries in ~/.local/bin.
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>>106614015
I think localsend would be better than ftp since its p2p but you can just host an ftp server on your phone and connect to it with your pc to get whatever you need off it
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what program or config do i need to use to make /dev/serial/by-id/ exist on my snowflake distro and also make a specific device that gets plugged in and out all the time accessible to all users?
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>vsync refuses to work
>get recommended gamescope, a billion issues with running it
>finally (I think after some packages updated too) gamescope runs
>now VAC dosen't let me connect to servers
oh for

>vsync still not working btw
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>get new (decade old) laptop
>boot cachyOS live environment, everything just werks
>install cachyOS, everything still just werks
>install fprint (fingerprint reader package)
>after installing fprint touchpad stops working completely
>lsusb doesn't even show touchpad in the list of devices
>touchscreen and wacom pen still work fine
>touchpad enable/disable function key does nothing

Nani the fuck???
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>>106614208
kernel module bullshit maybe. Check what driver is responsible for the fingerprint sensor and unload it. Maybe that could help.
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>>106614218
I uninstalled fprint and it did nothing. Or is that not enough?
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>>106614257
My guess is that in order to make the fingerprint reader work it loaded a module into the kernel. This module could be the cause for you issues or it made some config changes to your system and that causes the issues.
If you want to check if its a kernel module causing this then look into https://www.baeldung.com/linux/drivers-associated-device unload the fingerprint reader module and load the original touchpad one (if applicable)
If its some config change then you are on your own i think.
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>>106612881
pros
>no updoots
cons
>no updoots
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>>106614218
I switched to the long term support kernel and that fixed it. Super weird that happened the way it did though.
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>>106614284
Also uninstalling a package might not be enough i think.

>>106614294
Yeah its a kernel module then. No other explanation for it.
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What filesystem to I format my sd card to if I just want to transfer files back and forth with as little headache as possible?
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>>106614311
FAT32 has the most compatibility
exFAT has probably the second most compatibility and is somewhat less shit
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>>106614311
exFAT is the standard for every OS to use these simple flash devices. FAT32 has a filesize limit of 4gb.
If you want to be fancy f2fs maybe.
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>>106614311
exfat/ext4
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can finally confirm that SATA passthrough by-id absolutely does work safely with an existing install
fucking amazing tech, heard you can even passthrough your KB+M (evdev?)

apparently the next version of Looking Glass (B8) is even supposed to enable truly headless cards, no required monitor signal or dummy plugs
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>>106615180
yea i use;
    <input type="evdev">
<source dev="/dev/input/by-id/<my keyboard>" grab="all" grabToggle="ctrl-ctrl" repeat="on"/>
</input>

which i got from some guide years ago where i just hit both ctrl's to switch the keyboard and mouse between host and VM, physical KVM-style. with looking glass you typically won't use it, but it's absolutely a nice thing to have
>apparently the next version of Looking Glass (B8) is even supposed to enable truly headless cards, no required monitor signal or dummy plugs
i wonder how it does that. this is more of a gpu/gpu driver issue than anything else. i just have the second gpu attached to another input on my monitor. see, the gpu doesn't need to be on a monitor actually displaying anything, it just needs to be "plugged into a monitor", literally.
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>>106613056
>Rolling releases really don't break
They do, regularly.
>because it's not like they're packaging untested alpha builds
Arch does. They packaged a pre-alpha GRUB build and pushed it to users, breaking boot for many.
Stop making shit up. Rolling distros are fragile and require constant babysitting and reading announcements.
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>>106615525
Stable distro bros win again
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usecase for functioning os?
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>>106608944
>i see you've never used win 8
true, i know a turd when i smell one
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Is there a better way to have avahi publish several more mdns aliases for a single machine other than creating a systemd service file with
avahi-publish -a -R %I.local $IP
?
This feels like too much of a hack
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>>106612279
which bsd is that.
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>>106610111
NTFS on Linux will always be somewhat of a nuisance because even if the driver works fine as expected you will probably need to run chkdsk at some point, which is Windows only, which means you either need to boot into Windows or run a Windows VM and pass the disk to it.

If you're confident you'll never be touching Windows again then just convert all your NTFS partitions to ext4 or whatever you prefer.
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>>106616250
>>106610111
I installed Linux for my mom and ntfsresize complained about the drive having errors and I had to go to Wangblow$ to fix it.
Never had a problem with it on my own Linux machine though. Maybe I should move the files but I'm too lazy to re-partition
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Linux newb here. Gonna make the switch from win 10 to linux before pajeetsoft forces me to "upgrade" to win11
What distro would you recommend for light use? Basically just use my laptop for photoshop and making music in renoise, and then simple web browsing, watching youtube etc.
Was leaning toward fedora since i heard its supposed to be pretty secure and simple to use, but im basing this from video reviews of linux distros from a few years ago, so dont know how relevant that is now
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>>106616839
Btw picrel is me as the cat and the watermelon is linux
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>>106614331
>>106614340
>>106614530
Huh I thought fat32 and exfat didn't play nice with linux. Always heard ext4 and btrfs recommended
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>>106616850
From my experince even ntfs work fine on linux.
Problems arise when NTFS move from linux to windows IME
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>>106616850
fat32 has been supported in linux since forever especially because its used for the efi partition
exfat has support in the kernel as well, both exfat and fat are supported on stuff like bsd as well. NTFS is more of the issue.
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What does "+deb13u1" at the end of a package version mean? the one on the repos isn't named like this
i was trying to install a i386 package and it wanted to remove half the system because of this
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>>106615695
I use debian sid btw
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today i wasted my 4 hours figuring out why my usb nic adapter doesn't work
i forgot autosuspend was enabled for all usb
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Can I install Linux on M4 MacBook Air already?
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>>106616850
fat32 is supported absolutely everywhere
exfat, last I used it, required installing a package to make it work, which is why I listed it as second most compatible

you're not supposed to use them as your main filesystem, that's not even a linux thing, even on windows you wouldn't run it off an exfat partition. ext4 and btrfs are good filesystems for actual storage drives (on linux), less so for sd cards and thumbdrives.
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>>106617688
>tfw can't look up this web comic in google search anymore
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>>106616839
>What distro would you recommend for light use? Basically just use my laptop for photoshop and making music in renoise, and then simple web browsing, watching youtube etc.
This isn't really super relevant. The main differences between distros is how software is packaged, and the general modus operandi and attitudes of the maintainers. The biggest difference you'll feel is specifically in how drivers are provided and packaged, some distros will work out of the box better and some worse, and it can vary with different hardware. Though you can almost always fix issues, it's just more annoying to do so when another distro would just work right away.
There are also differences in preinstalled software, sometimes including e.g. the default desktop UI. For example Ubuntu has like three or four variants and the only differences are the default UI that's provided. That's relatively easy to change if you want, but if you're completely new to linux you might appreciate having a nice pre-installed environment without having to modify anything, until you're more comfortable.

Fedora's fine, Ubuntu's fine (or e.g. Kubuntu, an aforementioned variant with just a different default desktop), Mint is fine, etc. Just pick something mainstream and not marketed towards nerds (so e.g. not Arch, nor Gentoo) if you want to avoid having to spend time tinkering and learning a ton of shit before even being able to use it.
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>>106607695
>Is wayland the issue?
Yes, use x11 and xrandr.
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I can't get bluetooth to work properly for xbox one pads, every other device works, mouse, kb, headset.. but this pos disconnects randomly after some time, last firmware too, it doesn't even with SteamDeck which should be foolproof
DON'T BUY MISCROSHIT PRODUCTS. what gamepad should I get?
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>>106618092
>what gamepad should I get
this is going to sound stupid as fuck BUT
get the gamesir cyclone 2
the name is dumb as fuck but its legit the best controller for that kind of money
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>>106618126
thank you saar
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Any reason not to just use an immutable distro if all you care about is videogames and shitposting on this page? Sounds to me like its just some free foolproofing and maybe even better overall security with barely any downsides.
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>>106603911
Does anyone know of a file manager that doesn't have retard tier tabs forced into it?
Be one thing if I could at least disable them. Dolphin devs refused to add an option to allow middle click to open a new window and they think this is fine.
I actually moved from Windows because of these unintuitive poorly thought out tabs they forced into File Explorer.
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>>106618434
Do what you want lol
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How do you get thumbnails for music files under Nemo? I was told you have to install Totem but why do you need a video player just for that? Is there a package that can do this without totem?
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>>106618646
Dunno but AeroThemePlasma is a better Win7 skin than what you're currently rocking
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>>106609462
Working as intended? Mask it if you don't want it.
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Next time you're tempted to write a letter on Microsoft Word, don't.
Use LibreOffice instead. It just might save your life
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>>106618646
Use GNOME Files (Nautilus) if you want a file manager without any features.
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Advice on changing DEs? I'm on Debian and I want to switch from GNOME to Xfce, should I just run
sudo apt install xfce4 && sudo apt purge *gnome*

Or will this brick my system?
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>>106618646
Nemo doesn't have tabs and it's much better than Nautilus
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>>106619287
Correction, nemo has tabs but they are only shown if you have 2 or more tabs open
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Does anyone know of a good way to make applications in wine fully resizable so that they scale to the window size? On debian 13 btw
Im tired of having to fullscreen everything just to be able to read it
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>>106619220
Logout into a TTY first (Ctrl+Alt+F3 or whatever).

kill -9 -1


That’ll nuke your X/Wayland session so you’re clean.

Then yeah, go ahead with your purging commands. After that, make sure you actually have a login manager installed (lightdm is the usual for XFCE).

sudo apt install lightdm


When you want to test, just run:

startx


Once you understand how that flow works, you can keep purging, reinstalling, and experimenting without fear. Just keep a notebook of the commands and package names you’re trying out so you don’t forget what you broke/removed.
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I use a python program running a qt interface. On arch this app is available integrated into the system's python environment therefore follows the theme I set in qt5ct. (the QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct environment variable setting)
However on my laptop with opensuse I've had to install it using a separate virtual environment so the system's qt5ct has no effect. How can I control qt theming inside a python venv?
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>>106619497
>How can I control qt theming inside a python venv?
You need to build the Python wheel from source instead of using a wheel. You're probably better off learning how to make a system package or make a Flatpak of it.
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>>106619441
also being able to use and navigate the nano command
>being able to edit a textfile from the terminal
is useful to fix things you break, say a startup command
you would just navigate to that file from the TTY and then edit it with nano to a previous working state, relog, and youd be back into your desktop environment to try again
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>using linux-lts on arch for 2 years because mainline kept getting regressions and new bugs, perfectly stable the whole time
>update linux-lts to 6.12.47 along with a bunch of other crap
>plasmashell spontaneously restarts, think nothing of it because KDE
>firefox background processes crash, think little of it
>smplayer/mpv subtitles appear corrupted, think file might be corrupted, try recheck on qbittorrent, it doesn't check, stuck at 0% with no I/O, something's clearly wrong
>check my drives just in case, everything ok
>restart qbittorrent, now it's checking
>continue playing video in smplayer, system freezes for a minute, oh no
>pull up dmesg, massive stream of kernel OOPSes, all seemingly random causes including reference count overruns in memory management, indicating memory problems, oh shit
>xorg freezes, try to REISUB the system but it won't reboot and just spits more OOPS on the console, oh shit
>hard reboot into windows to run occt/prime95/etc to check if my intel CPU finally degraded or something, everything passes, phew
>reboot into memtest86+, let it run a few passes, no errors, must be a linux problem
>disable a bunch of video hardware acceleration shit throughout in case it's a VA-API issue, smplayer/mpv still showing corrupted subtitles
>system freezes completely when I tab to firefox, audio repeating, probably kernel panic
>reboot into mainline linux 6.16.7 because fuck it
>no more corrupted subtitles, everything stable the last 24h

Nice job letting a memory corruption bug through to stable longterm, kernel devs. Fantastic work.
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>>106620011
LTS on a desktop is a meme anyway. What you're supposed to do when you encounter a regret is switched to the -rc series or downgraded the kernel and wait for the new releases that has the fix.
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>>106620011
>>106620036
The meaning of "LTS kernel" varies by distro, I thought everyone was on 6.12.x or newer already.
Extra question: does it make any sense to updoot from 6.12 series when my system doesn't have USB4 ports and the CPU is a Zen3 AMD?
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>was using Linux, secure boot working
>switched to Windows 11
>switched back to Linux, secure boot doesn't work in either Kubuntu or Arch
Is the Windows install interfering or something else? I did a clean install wipiing the disk.
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>>106620172
>does it make any sense to updoot from 6.12 series when my system doesn't have USB4 ports and the CPU is a Zen3 AMD?
It always makes sense to updoot the kernel. Unless there's a regression, why would you not want to?
Newer software feature are also being added and improved (the kernel is not just about hardware) and the code is ale being optimised which mog bring major or minor performance improvements
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>>106620172
In Arch lts just means the "stable" longterm branch.

>>106620241
Probably. Are you using the same EFI partition for both?
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>>106620280
I installed Kubuntu first then replaced it with an Arch install thinking it's Kubuntu's Seucre Boot implementation that was messed up. But it looks like something is broken on my end now that sbctl secure boot setup is not working either.
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Retard here. Is there a way to get a Linux PC out of standby remotely? It's powered on but not responding over the network as far as I can tell. I can ssh into my router and send a WOL packet but since the PC is on, just suspended, it's ignoring those. Do I have any options or do I just have to wait til I can get home and wiggle the mouse?
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>>106620350
did you open them ports?
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>>106620350
Make sure power saving isn't turning off the NIC when the machine goes into S3. Also make sure your router/switch can link at 10M (isn't forcing 1G or something).
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>>106620361
Ports should be ok, I haven't tried wake on lan since coming to Linux but it used to work on Windows. Never let it go into standby on Windows though
>>106620690
I'll check these when I get home, thanks
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>>106616839
The only thing I don't like about Fedora is major updates require a re-install instead of in-place upgrade. If you backup/restore your data its not that much of an issue, just something to be mindful of.
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Does anyone knowledgeable with xfce know how to get completely transparent panels? Cause I'm trying to make a dock panel, but when I select solid color and slide transparency bar down, it still has a noticeable black border around it.
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The product page for the RTL8125BG claims that it has
>Controllable LED Blinking Frequency and Duty Cycle
https://www.realtek.com/Product/Index?id=3962&cate_id=786

Anyone know if (or how) this could be tweaked from Linux?
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>>106621294
>major updates require a re-install instead of in-place upgrade
This isn't true at all, at least when it comes to their Atomic desktops. But I really doubt it's true for their mutable desktop either.

>>106621399
I haven't used Xfce in a few years, so I might be wrong here. But I think the transparency slider is only related to the fill color of the panel, not any borders/outlines/shadows defined by the theme you use. I'll try it in a VM when I get home and let you know. But it the meantime, check if the same happens on a different theme.
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>>106620350
That may depend on the NIC you're using (and OS/motherboard power management). For example, the RTL8111H datasheet says this:
>7.13. XTAL-Less Wake-On-LAN
>The external clock source may stop generating the clock when in suspend mode (S3/S4/S5). To support the Wake-On-LAN function without an external clock source, the RTL8111H/RTL8111HS will automatically change its source clock from the external clock to an internal self-oscillating auxiliary clock when it enters suspend mode. Note that when in suspend mode, the auxiliary clock can establish only a 10Mbps link and does not support ARP/NS offload and ECMA ProxZzzy.
Curiously the datasheet I have for the RTL8125BG(S) is very sparse on WoL details, but the chip does have an internal clock.
Intel NICs have full power management support so they too should be fine in principle.
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Thoughts on PopOS?
I want to drop W10 already and go full Linux, apparently Pop is the most accessible.

Things holding me back:
>Huion Pentablet Drivers
idk if my tablet will work with Linux
>Photoshop/Adobe CC
I HAVE to have PS, no GNU can't replace it
>Clip Studio
I Have to have CS, no Krita can't replace it...

I've heard stuff about Wine Bottles n' shit but idk computer stuff that well
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>>106622102
Currently too outdated, avoid until there's a version based on 26.04
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>>106622102
>PopOS
>still based on Ubuntu 2022
You don't want this. And PopOS has always been a meme. There's no reason to use it over whatever the latest Ubuntu is (Ubuntu 25). Just pick your preferred DE:
https://ubuntu.com/desktop/flavors
Hint: KDE is the only one that isn't shit. GNOME is the 2nd best. The problem is that Kubuntu is somewhat crap compared to Aurora. Very few distros package and pre-configure KDE well.

>Adobe CC
>Clip Studio
You'll have to use virtual machines for this. Bottles (WINE/Proton) can't run Adobe CC.
For running Windows software which can't be run in WINE/Proton, you can try these two:
https://github.com/winapps-org/winapps
https://github.com/TibixDev/winboat
They're effectively spawning a Windows Virtual Machine for you while making windows software look "integrated".
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>>106622102
if you NEED adobe suite, just dual boot. you can try to get PS working through something like wine but it's not worth the headache in my opinion. it also might be worth booting linux off of a live usb image to check and see if your devices work as expected.
>Thoughts on PopOS?
it's a derivative of ubuntu, which is a derivative of debian. you will have fewer headaches over time if you just install debian.
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>>106622102
since you're relying on a tablet, any solution that isn't native latency could really fuck you up though
dunno how well Wine even works
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>>106622257
pop os is going its own way with the cosmic desktop environment.

https://system76.com/cosmic

It's actually well done with patches for better font rendering and written in Rust. It's still early but actively developed (much more than Mate, for example, which is abandonware now). THe rust community is known for rewriting everything and making things better.

https://github.com/cosmic-utils/cosmic-project-collection
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>>106612279
BSD is a cuck operating system and running it is an embarrassment
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>>106622257
KDE is too bloated and full of stupid design inconsistencies.
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>>106620011
I went through Ubuntu's 6.8 -> 6.11 -> 6.14 at six months intervals and never seen such issues.
6.16 had massive IPv4 problems but they seem to be resolved in the current 6.17.
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>>106620241
EFI DBX was updated. You'll need to disable SecureBoot temporarily and update your Linux install.
This happened because you either didn't update your Linux in a long time or it's misconfigured/broken.
The other scenario is where your Linux updates put a new DBX in place and Windows (or other Linux on the same machine) won't boot anymore.

Pro tip: ignore the retards in this thread who have no clue about computers and recommend separate disks or blame Windows or other such bullshit.
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>>106622317
>pop os is going its own way with the cosmic desktop environment.
It takes years for a DE to be usable. And it would take a decade for Cosmic to become relevant considering how invested people are in GNOME and KDE.
>rust community is known for rewriting everything and making things better.
Not necessarily the case. A lot of rewrites are pointless or become abandonware. Just because Rust is better than C/C++ doesn't mean that the majority of devs/users are willing to abandon the status quo.

>>106622352
>KDE
>bloated
Very few people are autistic about minimalism. KDE is the most functional and feature rich DE and the best GUI any desktop OS has to offer.
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>>106622624
>It takes years for a DE to be usable.
when done by amateurs. cosmic is developed by a pro company. it's a huge huge project about making a homogeneous environment for linux that can rivalize with mac os. It's still in alpha (first beta will be released this 25 September) but the amount of stuff done is already tremendous: https://github.com/pop-os/cosmic-epoch
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I'm running into a bizarre problem I don't even know how to dignose the root cause of. I recently bought a laptop and I installed Xubuntu on it. Here's what happening:
>about five times a day all the programs running on it completely freeze and stop responding.
>when this happens, all of the programs currently running all stop responding at exactly that the same time
>also some programs are unaffected, but only extremely lightweight ones. ie, mousepad (XFCE's version of notepad), terminal, and Thunar.
>but they are like half effected. They also freeze but they get stuck in this loop where they will hang for like 2 seconds and function for like 5 seconds and then hang for 2 seconds again. It's the world's worst hitching
>The programs that fully crash are heavy ones like Steam and Firefox.
The most significant difference between these two classes of programs seems to be that the ones that go into the hitching state don't utilize GPU acceleration whereas the full crashing ones do.

I am running a Ryzen AI 340 processor with 16gb of ram. I am using Ubuntu 24.04.3 and I am using XFCE version 4.18 and kernel version 6.14.0-29-generic.
I contacted my laptop manufacturer about it and they told me to install Fedora to see if the issue persists there. Apparenlty they don't officially support Ubuntu. The laptop is made by Framework.

Where should I look for diagnosing the root cause of this madness? Nothing notable is showing up when I google stuff.
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>>106622643
NTA, but when did they start development? Was that perhaps a few years ago?
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i think they started to rewrite everything in rust three years ago.
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>>106620241
Worked after replacing grub with systemd-boot
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>>106622671
The symptoms are very similar to running out of memory.
Does the mouse cursor freeze at all when this happens?
If you don't have swap, add a swap file. 4 GB would be enough, but I'd test with 8 GB first since later you can just delete the swap file and create a smaller one.
Search for "oom" in your system log (/var/log/syslog of `journalctl --dmesg`).
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>>106622671
As the other anon said it's most likely that you're OOM and you either don't have a swap file or it's very tiny. What's probably happening is:
>you get to 16GB memory usage (RAM is filled)
>system freezes because you're OOM
>tries to dump memory to your swap file (stored at disk) to free up RAM. Or, it waits a few seconds for your applications to free up memory themselves.
>both of these feel like a short stutter
>system is still OOM because one of your applications is still trying to consume more memory (either it's actually doing something or has a memory leak)
>as a last resort, system tries to kill the heaviest non-critical application it can find, that being your web browsers (Firefox and Steam Client)

You should just set up a 4GB-8GB swap file. Or 16GB if you want your PC to support hibernation.
If, for some reason, you don't want a swap file, then you can install earlyoom (or set up systemd-oomd, which is currently used on Ubuntu/Fedora, to be more aggressive and kill processes sooner). But in this case you'll have to live with the fact that your large, non-critical processes (ie Steam, browser tabs) will be killed when your system reaches 16GB memory usage.
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>>106620011
i'm currently running 6.12.41 (gentoo dist kernel) and have been on 6.12.x for months now with no issues. perhaps it's an arch problem
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>>106622352
It's actually very modular, you're problem is with your retarded distro pulling in the meta packages with every possible feature compiled into it and enabled so it includes the entire kitchen sink.

Try KDE on a distro like Gentoo which lets you choose which components to enable.
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>>106623095
Nah it's still shit design..like why can't I delete window decoration themes the same way I can delete all other theme components? This just hurts my autism.
Also there are too many menus and checkboxes. And Konsole is just ass. Even Qterminal is better.
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>>106623118
You can delete decoration themes?
Also, Qterminal has worse rendering and lacks features Konsole has like splits.
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>>106619710
Thanks, I realize I could have both Xfce and GNOME installed and simply pick which one to log into in the display manager.
I successfully logged into an Xfce session, it looked great at first but then i noticed the very horrible screen tearing when i was moving windows. I'm going back to GNOME till I find a fix for the screen tearing issue, I'm not sure if it's an Xorg issue or not because GNOME works fine without screen tearing on Xorg.

Also I noticed there was an option to run Xfce with wayland in the display manager, does Xfce support wayland now?
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>>106623139
You can't delete them the same way you can delete other theme components:

Everything else has a bin icon in the lower right. Window decorations? They don't.
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>>106623118
>like why can't I delete window decoration themes the same way I can delete all other theme components?
nta and i'm not familiar with kde to know which package pulls in said themes, but i do know enough about gentoo to know that worst case you can configure a literal file filter to prevent specific files from being installed, automatically.
that's the thing about gentoo, not only does it provide USE flags to configure any intentionally-optional components, you also have various other filters/masks/patching capabilities to do anything else you want to do.
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Ubuntu 25.10 beta where? Need to updoot muh Xubuntu.
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>>106619121
The fuck is this article. Are they claiming that a random Iranian government employee got executed just because he used Word?
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>>106623408
yes
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>>106622352
Windows is bloated and full of design inconsistencies, but people happily make it work for them. It's more important for a DE to be sane and usable than for every single menu to follow the same design principles. GNOME follows its autistic principles of minimalism and forbidding customisation (because custom rices would violate the design principles) and as a result it's more obtuse and pretentious than even macOS.
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>>106622983
Swapping is fucking painful on a modern system, even with a fast SSD.
>>106622671
I'd advise you to just watch your memory consumption and install early-oom. Or upgrade your ram if you're able to.

The tradeoff is basically if you have enough space in swap, your computer will become unusuably slow and borderline frozen for like a minute while it frees up space in ram, but applications won't get killed. Whereas if you don't use swap at all and set up early-oom, then some stuff will get killed but you won't (or will barely) get any freezing or stutters. IMO like I said when it goes to swap it becomes basically unusable so I think it's a lot better to just kill early, unless you're routinely working on stuff that you cannot afford to close under any circumstances. (But modern software almost always autosaves constantly and any computer can always just crash for other reasons so you should avoid doing stuff like that anyway unless you absolutely have to with no alterantives.)
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Pop_os Cosmic is an honest attempt at making a MacOS-like desktop for linux. Rust programmers should answer the call and make the dream a reality. Fuck gnome.
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>>106623614
The whole point of COSMIC is to take current GNOME and make it not shit.
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>>106623622
>is to take current GNOME

Cosmic is written from scratch in Rust. They stopped patching gnome since 2022.
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>>106623624
Not shit -via- basically rewriting it in Rust.
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>>106623636
it's not a rewrite of Gnome but a new novel desktop environment which differs from Gnome in philosophy, purpose and practice.
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What is the future of BTRFS on Linux? Will it ever replace ext4 as the default choice?
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>>106624279
xfs will replace ext4 as the default choice before btrfs does
surprised xfs hasn't already
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>>106624316
why xfs? isn't it more server oriented?
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I’m looking to replace my Windows 10 within maybe the next year or so.
I’ve used windows all my life.
Basically my interests are-
>cooding
>games
>making music
I wanna know what distro is the best for what I need it for. Also will any Linux work better than Windows? For gaming especially?
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>>106624377
CachyOS
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>>106624333
it's faster. ext4 was established as a stop gap, it's not a real solution
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>>106624424
which of the bigger distros support it? i'll give it a try just for fun.
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>>106624437
support it? all
use it by default? any red hat based distro
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>>106605283
You might be able to disable the top panel and turn the dock into a panel with everything from the panel on it with dash-to-dock. I think the setting is called "extend dock to screen edges" or something similar.
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>>106624437
you make it sounds like it's a new thing and not a port of the filesystem used in irix in 1994.
ext4 was a stop-gap... said the ext4 about btrfs. i've been using btrfs for a decade, people still use ext4?
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>>106624536
said the ext4 lead dev*
granted, that comment was made a long time ago, before btrfs was viable
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>>106624536
oh. to me ext4 is what i have always used back into 2008, anything else to me is foreign.
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>>106622879
>>106622983
>>106623576
The mouse cursor doesn't freeze or do anything weird when this happens.
The memory consumption can be below 25% when it triggers and it almost never goes above 50%. Could it still be a swap thing regardless?
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>>106624627
for transparency, i'm not saying xfs hasn't been improved over time either, it's just not new.
even as a btrfs user, from what i've seen, i'd also agree that xfs has surpassed ext4 overall, except for one thing that has always put me off xfs... it doesn't support shrinking. like you can't make an xfs partition smaller without formatting it. not that i do that often, just not being able to has always put me off using it. it's a moot point now since i use btrfs anyway, which does even more than xfs
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>>106618646
Both Nemo and Dolphin tabs can be disabled in their respective settings. These are the two file managers that I use.
I also hate tabs in file managers, so I always disable it.
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>>106618092
Do you have the udev ruleset from the steam-devices package installed?
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>>106620036
Your post is a meme
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>>106620011
Stuff like this is why i rarely updoot these days
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>>106624667
Then it's probably not
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Is zram recommended to use on a raspberry pi?
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>>106624279
It's already a default choice in many distributions.

>>106624377
>what distro is the best for what I need
Bazzite.
>will any Linux work better than Windows? For gaming especially?
Depends on which games. Console emulation has always been better on Linux. PC games are a hit or miss. Some of them work better, some of them perform worse, most of them perform the same, but some of them (under 1%, mostly ones using KLAC) just don't work at all.

>>106624770
>I also hate tabs in file managers, so I always disable it.
Really? I find it exceptionally useful. I always made fun of Windows users for not having it (until W11 recently implemented them, but they feel very slow).
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>>106625157
zram swap you mean?
if you don't want to swap to disk, yes. depends on your disk and if you are going to use all that ram
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>>106624736
btrfs is still worse performance than xfs. if you aren't using snapshots or other features of btrfs then xfs is a better choice, just for the performance.
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Have you encrypted your swap? Me: Yes.
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I have Arch installed, I'm new to all this. How best to encrypt my drive?
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>>106625349
Best way is to encrypt it on setup with LUKS/cryptsetup
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>>106625314
features like checksumming do cost performance, but i'm not going back to a filesystem that doesn't do checksumming. may as well use fat32 at that point
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>>106613835
Anyone?
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>>106622671
>>106624667
You're running an LTS version of Ubuntu on a laptop which has very recent hardware. Ubuntu LTS is for servers, not desktops.
Framework is correct; if you want to use a desktop distro then use Fedora or at least the latest point release of Ubuntu instead of it's LTS release where the driver stack is consistently a year or two out of date.

You'll have to manually troubleshoot, so here's a few things you can do. Check existing logs:
journalctl -k -b | grep -i amdgpu
sudo dmesg | grep -iE 'amdgpu|gpu|error|fault'

See if anything pops up when your system shits itself.

You can also monitor your GPU:
radeontop

(you will have to "sudo apt install radeontop" first)

You can also just manually install the latest kernel and the latest mesa (which contains AMD drivers).
If this fixes your issue, then it was caused by Ubuntu LTS being outdated. If this is the case, then update to Ubuntu 25. Check their official documentation on how to do this (before you upgrade, you'll have to remove the PPA you've added to install the latest mesa and downgrade mesa itself).

On the off chance it's somehow related to your internal drive failing or it's firmware being bugged, check the logs and set up monitoring while this is happening:
journalctl -k | grep -iE 'ext4|nvme|ata|i/o|error|fail'

sudo apt install iotop
sudo iotop -o


There's also a very, very small chance that there's a bug in the xfce compositor on how it handles your GPU/driver. You can try disabling the compositor for a day and see if it fixes the issue. If it does, then it's just a matter of either replacing the compositor or the DE entirely. There's no reason to use Xfce on a device as powerful as yours (unless it's your preference). It's primarily a DE for budget systems made before 2015.

You could also just boot a Fedora USB and use the live USB as your OS for a day. If the issue still persists then it's a hardware problem.
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>>106625432
Checksums are enabled by default on xfs and ext4
has been for a decade I think
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>>106625518
>Ubuntu LTS is for servers, not desktops.
this thing again, it's just not the case. Ubuntu has its own server derivat, regular ubuntu lts if for desktops.
>the latest point release of Ubuntu instead of it's LTS
wow, wow, wow, and experience all of ubuntu's weird experiments that they put in those? At least the LTS don't have that problem.

Other than that, yes, just don't use ubuntu, it's shit.
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>>106625537
xfs and ext4 have only metadata checksums, i'm talking about data checksums (in addition to metadata checksums). i apologise for any confusion, but as far as i've seen, people don't consider ext4/xfs to be "checksumming filesystems" on account that they don't do data checksumming
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After three hours of troubleshooting and trying different things, I managed recover my Mint installation after it bricked the entire OS when trying to update the Nvidia driver. It's the second time this happens. I did a bunch of stuff, but the last thing that worked was reinstalling lightdm and the old driver (570). Using mesa, nouveau or a newer proprietary driver will still brick everything again, so I'm stuck with this 570 version.
On Arch I also use Nvidia proprietary drivers and I've never seen it shit itself like this. I upgraded to 580 without any issues. How the fuck is Arch less trouble free than fucking Mint?
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>>106625588
you can have checksums on any filesystem these days. Dm-integrity doesn't care what's below it.
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>>106625572
>regular ubuntu lts if for desktops.
Using Ubuntu LTS is the equivalent of using Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC. It's not for your average desktop user.
(Windows 11 being even more shit is besides the point)
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>>106625623
The average desktop user doesn't care about updates as much as you think they do.
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>>106625619
does that incur any performance penalty?
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>>106625670
same as any filesystem with built in integrity protection - you need to write the integrity metadata as well after all.
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>>106625316
i use a swapfile on an encrypted luks partition
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>>106625316
Can't encrypt what I don't have
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>>106625316
Use Swap on top of non-volatile ZRAM. No need to encrypt it if it never leaves RAM in the first place.
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>>106624947
You don't need LTS on a desktop. It's for servers or embedded systems.
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>>106613835
Do you have a question?
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>>106625623
Why do you think that?
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Any steam gamers here? I installed a game downloaded from GOG with steam+proton but when I try to launch it it shows running for a few sec and then it goes back normal showing the PLAY button.

What's the correct procedure for installing GOG games on linux? I added the installer in the library, went through the GOG wizard and installed the thing. Tried using the extracted game exe as target but it was no good. I then tried copying the game directory outside of the wine prefix and I readded it to steam but again no luck. Do you have any idea of what I could be doing wrong? The GOG installer did its job after all. I am using proton experimental. The launch option is empty
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>>106626063
For GoG games I prefer using Lutris. It has custom scripts for some old games that might cause issues. You can also log into your GoG account from Lutris itself and download everything from there.
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>>106626063
>>106626113
>GE-Proton8-27
>gamescope -- %command%
oooh I think I found the fix. I set proton GE as version and used gamescope to wrap the game
>You can also log into your GoG account
I am a bit embarrassed to admit it but it's a pirated version from gog-games
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>>106625958
>I want to stream audio from machine A to machine B.
How to do so?
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>>106625652
The average user cares about really stupid stuff. For example there's a new Unicode standard and Ubuntu LTS will not support it. You cannot use any of this emoji on Ubuntu LTS and will not be able to unless Canonical backports all of the upstream changes to GNOME, etc, back to it. Changes that potentially might break backwards compatibility.
https://emojipedia.org/unicode-17.0

Most Linux desktop users are not people with some production grade workload that needs to be thoroughly tested to confirm that it works and cannot ever change. They're normal PC users browsing the web or gaming, etc. The people running some crucial studio workload on top of something like RHEL are a tiny fraction of that.
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If Linux doesn't have an autoscroller when you press the middle mouse button, what do Linux users normally do to quickly scroll through things or just look at a zoomed in pictures? Using the scroll bars or arrow keys feels very annoying.
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>>106626236
KDE has this. Turn it on in the mouse settings.
I think if you're using Xorg still there's an xorg.conf preferen for it too since it's actually a feature of libinput.
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>>106626236
>autoscroller
we used computers before this thing existed and we somehow survived.
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>>106626132
If you got it working with Steam and GE, great. But keep in mind Steam don't always handle non-Steam games that well. At least in my experience, launchers like Lutris, Heroic, Bottles, etc, handle these games better.
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First used Mint with Cinnamon, now on Arch with KDE. What is it about Linux or these DEs that cannot seem to handle fullscreening the program windows themselves properly? If the window's head is not snapped to the screen's top, a weird graphical tearing happens where either the window visually becomes distorted like pic, or it displays the window maximized yet isn't, like the graphics and the actual coordinate of the window on screen aren't processing the data the same.
I can fiddle with the window to fix it but it reliably happens like a third of the time I maximize a window. I just want it to stop.
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>>106626236
It's something the applications have to implement themselves, for example Firefox has a toggle for it.

>>106626256
That's scroll wheel emulation, which is a different thing.
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>>106626295
I am using steam because I am not the steam deck. Just more convenient when in deck mode. Sucks that it works only in desktop mode though. When I launch it it just goes on forever. I guess gamescope doesnt work in deck mode. I might just buy it next time it's on sale
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>>106626359
They have the exact autoscroller you're thinking of where you can hold down the middle mouse button and drag the mouse to scroll. Is this not what you want?
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I have a weird issue (again).
I am installing cachyos (basically arch) on a laptop. The only drive is encrypted.
I can do what I want but the second I install flatpak or appimage dependencies boot breaks. I used snapshots to figure out what exactly I did broke it and yeah, just installing flatpak makes it so the main partition fails to mount on real root and I'm kicked into an emergency shell. Any idea how to fix this shit ? I'm thinking this has something to do with fuse because I see no other reason both of them would break the install.
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>>106626256
I'm using Cinnamon on Mint, it seems there's no system-wide autoscroller by default.
>I think if you're using Xorg still there's an xorg.conf preferen for it too since it's actually a feature of libinput.
I'll try looking into it.
>>106626270
>>106626359
It's especially annoying when I try clicking the scroll bar and the mouse goes to the other monitor or when I'm looking at a large image the horizontal bar gets overlapped by my bottom panel (I have it on auto-hide). Isn't there any other way to move around which is more convenient? Left-right arrow keys in Gelbooru even changes the image you're currently seeing.
Plus scrolling the mouse wheel feels very tiring to me...
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>>106625900
Thats why windows has a dedicated LTS channel and charges more for it because nobody needs it
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>>106626420
>Plus scrolling the mouse wheel feels very tiring to me...
get a mouse with a wheel that goes vrooom
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>>106626132
gog-games is still around? i thought it got taken down
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>>106626431
They have it for enterprise workloads. People will pay for RHEL too for the same reason. Some stupid people even put Windows on embedded systems like POS, ATM machines, etc, but you probably already knew that.
This is not most desktop users though.
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What's the best way to migrate from a distro to another? I have a backup of my home, so settings are mostly sorted, for flatpak etc it's also easy.
For things installed via the package manager, what would you suggest? List them and find the corresponding package on the other distro? Maybe I should also spin up a VM and test it out.
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>>106626460
your package manager should have a command to list all installed packages
you'll just have to find out the hard way if your other distro has the package. best way would be to spin up a vm yeah and copy paste the package names until it comes up with errors about being unable to find the package
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>>106626353
I have never seen such problems
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>>106624377
>Also will any Linux work better than Windows? For gaming especially?
games are even or have 10% performance loss because of the translation layer
some games with anti cheat dont work
you can check compatibility on https://www.protondb.com/
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people keep saying Ubuntu has file picker thumbnails. I can't find them on 24. They existed on 23, but got removed??
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>>106626577
why is she crying? :(
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>>106626577
Only GTK4 got them and Firefox is still using GTK3. You can enable portals as a workaround though.
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>>106626577
Try
widget.use-xdg-desktop-portal.file-picker 1
in about:config
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>>106626606
because she's not inside a thumbnail in the directory. The file preview is too cold
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>>106626395
Ok it's actually the ostree dependency that breaks boot. No idea how to fix it though.
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>>106626619
>>106626615
thank you



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