Step 1: Setup Tor hidden service + reverse proxies + wireguard on a *pi deviceStep 2: Rent a hotel room with good WiFi.Step 3: Don't electrocute yourself.Step 4: Post 4eva from a bulletproof residential-equivalent IP addressI personally chose the Radxa Zero 3 because it's cheap, small, quad core, and has good wifi speeds.I wore rubber gloves / wrapped my tools in electrical tape because I'm paranoid when working with live wires.pic rel (1 of 3)
Don't ask me how I set up the OS, reverse proxies, or Tor hidden services. For the record, I used SSH and Wireguard (+tinyproxy+microsocks) to a control server/VPS, and tor hidden services as a fallback to have 3 types of redundant proxies (with varying latencies of course)2 of 3
you're welcome, /g/lowiesgo forth and shitpost3 of 3
BasedShort the outlet first to trigger the room's differential so you don't have to work with live wires then ask them to reset it if it's not in the room (it sometimes is), just say it jumped when you plugged in a charger.
be sure to disable logging and (if possible) use industrial (SLC) microsd cards because SD card writes are a main point of failure for pi devices
wait i want to do this, what's best hotel location to pull this off? busy area?
Absolutely based. Complete king.
>>106626261honestly I felt more comfortable working with live wires than shorting an electrical system i was unfamiliar with, but that's just me.If you can work with live wires, you can take an hour or all night if you want. If you have to short, you can potentially draw immediate attention to yourself and you risk unknowns.I installed another one into a single outlet, and I did it in a dorm bed just behind a curtain for privacy because I didn't want to spend more than $6 a night on my hotel room.>>106626337probably a small motel with good wifi that takes cash. ideally somewhere that isn't likely to change their wifi password in the next decade.if there is nearby wifi, you can also connect to that as a fallback.
>>106626473should make sd card to self destruct if discovered
>>106626521the (minor, years into the future) risks of discovery are basically limited to:1) discovery of the time of installation from logging, and correlating that with the fact that you rented a room that day. this can be mitigated via ramdisk operating system.2) as for "self destruction", obviously all you need to do is boobytrap it with a pressure switch and thermite.
>>106626895That sounds like a Guatemalan not a shitposter issue.
why not build it into a hotel alarm clock or coffee maker, just bring with you and plug it in?
>>106627088can get stolen or replace with something else
>>106627202stolen is even better, because it just restarts and aircracks the local wifi around it
Holy. Fucking. Based. OP you are brilliant. There are more places for this but fuck yeah.
any better alternative than hotel or motel?i DON'T think fast food places like mcdonalds would work due to cameras
>>106627375Outside of any wifi hotspot. I'd suggest just going wardriving for a while, mapping what you find and go from there. Will be made to order hacking anyway.
>>106626129OP how exactly do you splice into the existing power cords? Assume I'm a retard that has never worked with cables. Do you crimp them or how do you do it?
This is the best /g/ thread this year and you giganiggers just let it die.
>>106627843What do you want us to say nigger? OP basically bloodied /g/'s nose with his BWC.
>>106627548They are usually just screwed to the socket connectors. Sometimes they are clipped. The clip ones do have multiple terminals normally to daisy chain them.
>>106627916I kneel
>>106627982Not OP. I kneel as well.
>>106626129Great job. How reliable is the hidden service? Is it viable to control the whole thing only via tor?>>106626649The whole self destruct idea is not really helping if in normal operations you're sending wireguard packets back to your command and control server which is at least in some way tied to your identity. Logs in some little motel probably won't go back far enough to really correlate them to your visit. So with only tor that whole thing might actually make you halfway anonymous.
I did something similar but I stick mine inside the bedside lamps
>>106626129you can set them up in even better places, some hotel rooms come with the router inside, I like to place it directly inside the router and plug the raspberry pi in the ethernet port, unless they ditch the whole box itll always be stable, even if the changed the wifi password. Another place I found worked really well is to toss it in a power cord or wire extender and have aircrack on it, give a couple around or let guests steal it from the airbnb
hotel WiFi is the best because your traffic blends in with all the other degenerate traffic that occurs on any given day from a hotel. Toss in MAC randomization on each boot and even if the glowies get involved they'll be sending vans past nearby houses looking for parabolic antennas rather than *pi devices in sockets.>>106628102hidden services are reliable long term but connections can break briefly every few minutes to few hours for a few seconds, and it's TCP only. It's fine for control, but for shitposting and scrolling you want something lower latency and higher bandwidth, like autossh reverse tunnels and/or wireguard. You also always want redundancy in every sense because you can't really go back to fix a device (economically it's as cheap to just install a new one somewhere else).
>>106627088Those and fridges are viable and safer (because you can unplug them while working on them), as long as the shell and location of the device doesn't affect WiFi signal.>>106628152Nice. The reason OP went with sockets over lamps and fridges is because OP is too poor to afford hotels that have lamps and fridges.>>106627375It's not about cameras. Some places have captive portals on their WiFi (which, even if manageable, could change format at any time) and the fact that you are going to need to spend a few minutes unscrewing their sockets. If they have a private handicap bathroom, it's doable but may be stressful and the materials of the walls and doors may interfere with WiFi more than the plywood walls of a hotel.>>106627405original plan was solar panels on rooftops, which is essentially viable with your wardriving plan, but the cost (including panels and batteries) to be too high relative to the life of each device (time from placement to discovery).>>106627548just unscrew. Be sure to wrap 90% of your screwdriver (except the tip of the blade) in electrical tape to avoid accidentally shorting if your hand slips.
>>106626129I remember doing this in college. I got anonymous wired network access and then set up ssh as a hidden service. I passed out shell accounts to classmates for fun.I never logged into the box after the first week to see what they did with it and desu I didn't want to.
>>106628893id bet money that none of your classmates logged into it
>>106626129>*pi deviceanyone whos used a raspberry PI chip knows they're backdoored and virused out to fuckrpi 2040 literally has 10x more power consumption than esp32 chips, and rpi 5s run linux slower than a fucking atom processor from 2012. its literally all spyware
>>106626129or, just don't download cp
>>106626129See my thread please >>106630512
>>106626129Post guide to assemble those.Also how to splice with hot wires?
>>106627250> and aircracks the local wifi Good luck automating that!
>>106626129Won't last very long. Plugs in high use areas get checked for retention force at least yearly, often a lot more and then replaced when they are worn out. Which requires the plug to be replaced and your device found.
>>106631206So what you're saying is pick a plug that's a guest-one that doesn't get used as often.
>>106631362Yeah just use the one for the tv.
>>106629750no one said raspberry pi. OP used radxa devices running 3rd party distros.>>106630664Right. Also be careful with how you do it because you need to check internet connectivity of unknown networks and blacklist them if they have none (such as printer-only or POS wifi networks).>>106630647Obtain Radxa Zero 3, 2.4ghz/5ghz highest gain tiny antenna you can buy, the tiniest AC(110/220)-DC5V2A adapter you can buy/find, attach/solder wires between them all, wrap in electrical tape. Configure operating system/software. Splice however you want, or simply unscrew terminals and screw back in.>>106631206This post glows.
>>106631379or straight up install it inside the TV
>>106626129based thread bumped
>>106626129>RPiJust get the better option with PoE.Wifi is very unstable to use as bulletproof, so use the ethernet port.You can keep the wifi for other usage like attacking new guests and such.
>>106631954then install it in hotel Ethernet port and hope no guest every complains about nonfunctional Ethernet?
>>106632009I swear /g/ are getting dumper each year.All rooms has AP, usually behind the TV.Most of these APs are PoE and are connected to a PoE switch, which is usually near the door.You can either connected there, or go the malicious route and swap your little device with the AP and use the WiFi of the device as the hotel wifi to do something malicious.
>>106626521no need if you use a tor hidden service for access, since you wouldn't be connecting to it directly with your own ip anyway. should be fine to make the os read-only with a ramdisc overlay, so even any usage information like logs or caches or whatever are lost when unpowered, and you'd expect power to be turned off before a wall panel is removed
>>106626129>Step 1: Setup Tor hidden service + reverse proxies + wireguard on a *pi deviceWon't work, most hotels are behind CGNAT
bump, niggers
>>106632059You are retarded btwHow many hotels have you been to? I've never been to one that has an AP in-room or a fucking PoE switch in-room Also, any good IT service provider will set up port restrictions or at the very least notice a new device comes online on a port, check the network traffic, see that it isn't theirs and shut down the port.Tbh same with OP's plan. I have been to like, 3 hotels total that have password restricted WiFi, most of them use a captive portal (though, that is sometimes easy to bypass)
>>106632350You're a basement dweller, you don't know what you're talking about.>hotel>good ITkek
>>106632412>You don't know what you're talking about >Only tackles a single point IT contractors exist btw, hotels aren't doing this shit in-house. Anywhere small enough to be doing stuff in-house is likely not going to have PoE switches or APs in each room either anon.
>>106632442You obviously don't know what you're talking about.>MAC spoofing>Switch/Router exploitationsGo back to your dragon distro.>not going to have PoE switches or APs in each room either anon.Most do, for simple reason PoE cameras.
>>106632475I literally travel around the country staying in hotels for work, I'm also a network eng for a global corpo >MAC spoofing Oh, removing a device or just making them see a second identical one show up one day? Or are you spoofing a random vendor's MAC address? >"Hey John, why is there a brother printer showing up in room 506? And why is that brother printer showing X type of traffic?">Switch/router exploits Lol, you aren't doing this, stop LARPing, this is literally my day job.
>>106632508weak bait
I dont understand, dont you need port forwarding on the router to do this without your device constantly pinging home?
>>106632530>Still hasn't refuted any of my points Throwing out buzzwords you heard someone else say doesn't count.
>>106632611Because you aren't making sense.Your points aren't even valid discussion.You say there are no PoE AP in hotels rooms.How do they get Wi-Fi signal then?You don't know that guest network is on separate VLAN, and it's generally unmanged.And 3 hotels aren't many for someone that claim he travels for work.
>>106632739>3 hotels that have password restricted WiFi The rest have been captive portal anon.>How do they get WiFi signal In my experience, they're usually in hallways or common areas
>IT notices weird stuff on network>blocks the MACNothing personnel, OP
>>106632754So you weren't staying in a hotel? a hostel?
>>106632838I'm not sure what hotels you go to, but the ONLY time I've found APs in my room has been air b&B type places Large hotels have the APs in corridors
Good luck finding a hotel room in the US that doesn't have a 24 hour captive portal on their Wifi
>>106632935>Large hotels have the APs in corridorsWhat kind of cheap hotels are these?> APs in my room has been air b&B type places The other way for me, most AirB&B had no internet of any sort.I guess you need to look and be prepared for anything.It's possible you find a non PoE AP and you need power spiltter or something.>>106632945>Good luck finding a hotel room in the US that doesn't have a 24 hour captive portal on their WifiBut not for the connected devices directly (from my experince).And most captive portals can be bypassed easily.
Had the same idea for years but never bothered to implement it
>>106626129>hotel's ISP logs all incoming connections>OP gets fucked by bubbathanks for playing. cool setup btw.
>stand next to McDonalds and use their wifiHow is this any less secure? What could they possibly track back to you, besides the MAC of your device which they'd need to get physical access to confirm is your device anyway.
>>106632967Captive portals huh? Pretty sure the only person needing to know wants to breach it using their latest iphone
Nonny, there's a difference between the networking of a five star resort with smart shit in each room and a jeet run bedbug infested motel with a dusty old wrt54g in the closet they keep the cleaning supplies.
>>106632251do you even know what a reverse proxy is? How a tor hidden service works? No, you don't.>>106632775>random vendor MAC in your path>>106633089>incoming connections>>106633335The whole point of this thread is so that you don't have to embrace vanlife in a MacDonald's parking lot to shitpost freely 24/7/365.
>>106632602not necessary for a tor hidden serviceas for (CG)NAT, you could use something like tailscale/zerotier/nebula depending on how anonymous you want to make it
what about just using steel magnets on the wire ends to avoid having to unscrew live terminals or splice wires?Would probably cut installation time in half. Most of the terminal screws/plates are probably ferreous so the magnets should just latch on, yeah?
>>106626129Is there a version of this, but with linux?
>>106626129Kek, reminds me of a thread (/biz/ I think) where an anon posted about hiding a physical bitcoin miner in a hotel.
>>106626129It's this kind of shit that gives me a stiffy, only to realize how much work it requires use and maintain.And then there's the risk of being labeled a terrorist by this current regime...
Seriously, what's the smallet embeeded device that can run linux, and use a regular mini ssd and not a microsd card?
>>106626129>Radxa Zero 3Which version did you get?
>>106629750Concrete examples?
>>106632967If you are not American, all your opinions about hotels are worthless.
Godly thread, based OP.Too bad he's too gay to spill the beans on how to set it up on the software side.
>>106636375That's pretty easy, you just have it call out to a domain name and then try and connect via wireguard or openvpn to that domain name. The only thing OP is missing is some kind of tamper sensor, so that when the power socket is opened again it wipes the domain and the keys from the device. He'd also need a little battery on the device too since they'd probably shut the power off to open it up.
messed with something similar, just using ssh through tor hidden services where i could scp a script that would be auto-executed on a cron schedule as long as tor was unfiltered and it could connect to a wireless open lan, while i had my command and control host within the lan problem was a lot of the drivers were written by jeets so prone to hanging and requiring manual intervention. power issues causing corruption
>>106636139Pic of a Canadian. >>106635717Retarded. Use eMMC or a good Mirosd>>106635714>And then there's the risk of being labeled a terrorist by this current regime...Kek >>106635612>Would probably cut installation time in half. Most of the terminal screws/plates are probably ferreous so the magnets should just latch on, yeah?Retarded. Screwing in Stuff for a minute or two is fine if it's supposed to hold for a few years.>>106633335>How is this any less secure? What could they possibly track back to you, besides the MAC of your device which they'd need to get physical access to confirm is your device anyway.Cameras, license Plate Scanners, Your Phone and I want to shitpost from home like a white man.>>106632945>Good luck finding a hotel room in the US that doesn't have a 24 hour captive portal on their WifiSo you install a trivial script to log into the captive portal after a reboot? >>106632442Who fucking cares? Try it out with your notebook next to it and if they bother you say oh sorry the wifi wasn't working well so i wanted to use cable desu and if it works congrats you now have a hardwired sock puppet. All of you ni/g/g/ers have done nothing and are just mad you didn't have this idea. OP, I would suck your cock for this great idea and i'm looking forward to implementing it myself. My own personal high value botnet
based thread
>>106635635...yes this uses Linux>>106635714I made 4 so far. The initial image setup took a day or two of configuration and testing, then modifying it for each card took <15 minutes per microsd card, then flashing time. If I was going to make hundreds it would be trivially simple to script the whole thing because basically the only difference between each installation is wireguard keys, hidden service addresses, and reverse proxy ports.I'm not going to update them (lest they die) so maintenance over their lifetime is going to be 0 hours. Improvements will be made to new installations, not old ones.>>106635806Radxa Zero 3Walso to anyone who says it won't work, op has been phone and desktop posting over these devices for the whole thread. Also streaming 1080p pornos concurrently over them, routed over 3 continents.
I paid a chink to do something like this in a dense city. Two devices connected kilometers apart without even touching the corporate internet. I tunnel into the first, then hop to the second, then tunnel using a completely different protocol and traffic pattern over the corporate net to a different place in china, then I exit through a couple tunnels on bulletproofs in russia, then I enter Tor.Even if all the corporate net people in various countries can be made to cooperate, the trail dies at the link that hops over the air unless I actually use it while they're monitoring it.
>>106638761No you didn't the connection would be so unstable and the MTU so low that it just wouldn't work. You aren't a spy or a glowie that does that shit.
>>106639022NTA but that's really just a matter of putting in the effort than anything else. I've done i2p tunnel into a box -> tor before and that's literally more hops and more unstable than a rickety bridge in far Africa and worked decent enough for ssh despite not even controlling these unreliable pieces of shit.It depends on what he did. Did he use optical or did he use something like 2.4gz? If he did use the same frequency as wifi, that would be kind of tricky without employing certain methods, would take much testing. If you're actually controlling most of the hops in the chain though then you can ensure your pipes are big and reliable enough unlike in the i2p example. The content of the forwarded packets matters too, if you ran every tunnel on the same machine and tried to cram it all into one ad hoc nested multi layered tunnel you would have a problem, but if instead you are letting the hops themselves run most of the tunneling software then there won't be the absurd overhead you are imagining.That means, you might have a problem if you are trying to nest a bunch of instances of wireguard or whatever other tunneling program like a makeshift tor, but if you instead have a chain of 5 relays where each one acts as a proxy between two relays, then you could tunnel one wireguard stream over that chain without the overhead of them all.Sounds complicated but doable.
>>106639208Theoretically you can do it. Practically it's a fantasy >>106638761 is posting from their moms basement and we both know it.That being said, an over the air link across country borders would have some interesting properties but >trail dies at the link that hops over the air unless I actually use it while they're monitoring it.Hey chink, Chinese Glowies here, who paid you for that wifi link? You don't know? Wheres the payment you received?
>>106639272I didn't say>air link across country borders There was a box in someone's house in china connected to a reverse proxy over the corporate networks, and it also was connected to an antennae that was aimed at a wireless access point a good distance away. After that, tunneling over the corporate networks into other places for the advantage of their jurisdictions and diffusion of metadata. It was nothing super expensive or difficult to do, in fact the most costly (time) part was to find some kid who lives in one of these cities who can actually speak english and is non-retarded enough to figure out crypto.The point is that when the tunnel stops being used, there is a good chance no one has even traced it back to that wifi yet. If you stop interacting with that AP before that happens they are going to have difficulty figuring out who did it.
>>106639382The either track that crypto or beat put that chink in a concentration camp. If you really did this you are fucking evil.At least the OP won't harm the Hotel. At worst they get a letter from police, tell them yeah this a hotel with wifi people shitpost all day, don't know computers and be done.
>>106639382So you just gambled their life on the hope that your musical chairs don't end with the police tracing it before you deactivate the tunnel?>some kidSo you deliberately choose someone who has no cash and doesn't understand consequences. Okay. That's not very nice.
>>106639482Bro as long as you don't do anything china doesn't like who cares. Besides younger people get leniency, even if the very unlikely scenario they would find out. They prolly know there's consequences too lmao don't overthink it.
>>106638761What exactly is the point of tunnelling through China unless you are physically in China or trying to falsely attribute something to China (which you claim not to be, given that you further claim to route through Russia and Tor)?I mean just going into and out of China adds massive latency and heavily restricts protocols that can be used due to their Great FireWall (GFW).This reminds me of one day when I was bored as fuck so I did satellite -> European VPN 1 -> European VPN 2 -> Tor hidden service -> Tor -> destination.That's like 12 hops and it had a latency of 10-14 seconds and it was entirely usable for shitposting on IRC but absolutely retarded for any other purpose. You actually claim to have spent money on such retardism though.95% chance you actually live in China because otherwise absolutely no one would go through the retardedness of routing through China when neither the origin nor destination is in China. And the chink who installed it is you putting a parabolic antenna out your apartment window pointed at an insecure WiFi network on the next building.
>>106639718Indubitably, My Dear Anon, Indubitably
>>106639718How many people in this world have clout to tear apart tor and shred the red tape of collaboration multiple opposing regional powers, power through linguistic and format and tooling frictions inherent to such an endeavor, perform traffic analysis on many noisy shit, and get boots on the ground triangulating signals anywhere on earth in fewer than 20 minute?Even the friction of having to pick up phones and call people in your own agency, explain things, process things in your mind, walk from one room to another, get someone to authorize the use of one secret tool or another- the minutes start adding up. With enough carefully chosen layers of security it becomes logistically impossible to peel them back faster than some lower bound time interval.That's assuming anyone even gives a shit or you are dumb enough to be in the radar in the first place. Realistically you are not worth the resources, and if you are then they don't notice until hundreds of day passed since you did whatever. All that remains is logs, your tunnel is over no more triangulation. Just digital forensics and classic police work, profiling etc. Understandable variables.
>>106639891Nice Larp. Now name one thing you could realistically use it for? CP? Chatting with another schizo that would always believe you are a glowie anyway? Posting on 4chan?
i’ve always thought about doing this but with public for nodes
>>106626129we need TOR for esp32
>>106632508Are you retarded? Nearly all the shit these days just prints the MAC address on a sticker on the back.
what do i need to learn to pull off something like this? networking?
>>106640270linux, man tor.rc
Opine on this as a psu
>>106640524just rewired PCB of a charger
>>106632059It doesn't make sense to put an AP in each room. You'd get channel overlap and wouldn't even be fully utilizing each AP. The signal from the hallway is strong enough. It's less work for IT and costs the hotel less.
>>106626129>>106626191Assuming your device is discovered, how do you prevent it from being traced back to you? Seems like someone who recovers the device could pull your control server address from it. Unless you're working with the idea that it doesn't matter if your control server address gets exposed I guess.
>>106640723Control server would have to be run as a hidden service. I'd propably set those nodes up to be 100% independent anyway, with each of them hosting a tor hidden service for control. No central server needed for that.
>>106640815>I'd propably set those nodes up to be 100% independent anyway, with each of them hosting a tor hidden service for control.Wouldn't most of these be behind a typical "reject all inbound" firewall?I've not done much with TOR, but what I'm reading is that the servers still need to expose an inbound port.
No the node connects to the tor network and then hosts a hidden service. Similar to how tailscale or cloudflare tunnels work. But you are correct what you call "reject all inbound firewall" is called NAT (Network Access Translation). It doesn't reject all inbound but it rejects all inbound thats not from an ip you connected ot first.
>>106640723it doesn't matter if your control server address gets exposedYes, it is
>>106640852Yes, I'm aware of the basics of NAT.The part I wasn't aware of was that the TOR network could maintain long-lived connections like that for servers/infrastructure. Clients, I get, because the client is going to be initiating connections. But I didn't realize a server could hold a connection to a node to route traffic into it.In hindsight, I was aware the TOR browser was encouraging clients to also act as intermediate links in the network. That obviously would require them holding open connections for inbound traffic. So my bad, just never puzzled that bit out explicitly.
>>106640882>NATnon related
>>106640524Best I found is pic rel, see measurements
Just looked at a few hotels that aren't too far away. Unfortunatly being in europe they all seem to use electric outlets like pic related. That gives very littel room for any additional electronic.
>>106640665If your hotel is made out of wood.Real hotels have concrete and each AP out put is set to low while using 5GHz you don't get much congestion.And many guests just use it to send messages and video call which is more than enough even if channels overlap.
>>106631206>Plugs in high use areas get checked for retention force at least yearlywho's gonna tell him?
does this insane level of effort ever make you wonder if being a pedophile is just wrong and that everyone hates you?
So, this all starts with you using an ID to buy a hotel room where you will use a wireless network that's tied to the room you're staying in? You'll be on camera going through the hotel and if you manage to leave logs behind it could be checked against video records. Realistically, I think it would make more sense to use ultra-long-range wifi antennas to gain access to a guest network from miles away. Then setup somewhere remote where you don't have to be on camera.
>>106642226>So, this all starts with you using an ID to buy a hotel room where you will use a wireless network that's tied to the room you're staying in? You'll be on camera going through the hotel and if you manage to leave logs behind it could be checked against video records.I've never been to a hotel where the Wifi wasn't either completely open or used one password for every room. I've never seen a wifi password thats bound to a room.
>>106642226This is another major problem; you do this to more than one hotel and they've pretty much got you. If you do it to just one hotel, it could have been anyone that stayed in that room since they last checked the plug sockets, which will be hundreds of people, so they won't even bother looking. Do it to two hotels and then the only person that went to both rooms in the last year is the culprit. Hotels are pretty keen to know who stays in their rooms for this reason. Best case is you at least do it to two different companies in very different places, like across the country or something. Ideally to hotels not part of some big chain so they can't coordinate their finding as easily.
>>106631954Why not install one with 2 NICs and do some bridging?Other guests will not complain, because ethernet worksAnd you can still do hackerman things.Bonus points for being able to mitm other guests using the ethernet port
>svartkast>black throw >kamikaze box
>>106642586Bro you don't need to bridge just run on the same ethernet
>>106642704Good? There is literally no downside.
>>106642715you are right. :^)
>>106626473I've worked night shift in hotels and student accommodations in several countries, just about every room is on their own circuit, unless you're on some weird DIY hotel in the third world.
What do you do if the hotel inevitably changes the WiFi password?
>>106642506IF they call the police, the just need to take some photos to a nation wide data base and compare the construction method.
>>106642586the bigger the device the more likely it will be detected.smaller SBC are better
>>106641602Any suggestions anons? This makes OPs installation practically impossible, these are ubiquitous in europe. 68mm diameter, 40-70mm depth but often filled to the brim with plug socket and cabling.
>>106642815Yeah if it goes to the police they can just put the two incidents together. >>106642920take out the orange cap too, there is wall space
>>106642923>take out the orange cap too, there is wall spaceThe socket is screwed into that. Not an option.
>>106642586What devices have 2 nics?
>>106642943unscrewing a plastic cap is where you draw the line? Funny, all this criminal energy and this is where it ends
>>106642993no you fucking retard if i remove it i can't screw the plug back in and because europeans build houses not mcmansions there's nothing but wall behind those plugs so i don't gain any extra space. Bonus points for those plugs being one time use by design.
>>106643010Da ist ja jemand handwerklich begabt.
You could build a water-proof box with a small solar panel and battery, tape it somewhere with lots of wifi coverage, and run a TOR node there. Alternatively: you could buy 5G pre-paid data sims with crypto, use a 5G router, and use that for the Internet. I'm sure you can get those data sims activated without needing to input personal info.
>>106643068Yeah both of these options are available. Silent.link sells data sims for monero if anyone is interested. The solar box is just... Annoying and expensive for little gain
>>106643010Do you have no idea how construction works, or are you blind? These specific orange caps will be removable, and there will be an empty space behind them. You're thinking of one of these, sure, they won't be able to be removed from a wall. The orange one, with a cable, yeah, removable. Look at the original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF_RT1vlj0M
>>106642943put it back afterwards?bump
>>106643114Since most European walls are from brick (other than shown in the video demonstration), OP might expect the stone cut out to only be minimally bigger than the cap itself. But (1) That's not the reality. The hole is always bigger than it is needed for the plastic cap to fit. And (2) What does OP expect? If there is less space, get a smaller device, make the hole bigger, or put it somewhere else? Sherlock
>>106643010Plug sockets on stone and brick are also unlikely to have inset sockets at all but will be stickout sockets, where space could be limited.
>>106643149>The hole is always bigger than it is needed for the plastic cap to fit.Not if the box is there when the concrete is poured, but yeah.
What about hacking their routers or whatever instead?>>106632775>he doesn't know about macchanger
hey OP hotels change WiFi password literally every 24h, god damn this thread is full of retardsat least get yourself a 5G router and buy a prepaid sim, then hide you pi and modem in some industrial area with easy access to electricity, thats how literally Russians do it
>>106643844>hey OP hotels change WiFi password literally every 24hwhere does this happen? the hotels I visit usually have literally the name of the hotel as the password
>>106643844what hotel would do this? "Oh you're here for the week? enjoy updating your password every day." Is this some third world country shit?
>>106643844>hotels change WiFi password literally every 24hIn your paranoid country, maybeJust do this on some random single apartment airbnb and crack all the wifis around beforehand
>>106643875>>106643880>>106643883have you faggots ever stayed in a hotel and tried to use the fucking wifi? hotels use captive portals and they give out password that are valid for the length of your stay
>>106643907>all hotels are the same>t.Anonymous from the internet
>>106643844>WiFi password literally every 24hNo, the AP has no WiFi password, it just have capture portal, the Username is the room number and the password is random 4-6 digits.Which is why using ethernet is the better option.>at least get yourself a 5G router and buy a prepaid sim, then hide you pi and modem in some industrial area with easy access to electricity, thats how literally Russians do itFake and gay.Russians uses starbucks and mcdonalds internet, or spoof starlink.>>106643880>Is this some third world country shit?Just that anon when going to thailand
>>106643844thisyou use a Pi with an LTE hat and hide it somewhere industrial, not a fucking hotel and ofc you need a clean SIM but that also easy to getyou are all faggots btw, this thread is a pathetic larp
just work with one hand and the electricity can never kill you
>>106643938>Russians uses starbucks and mcdonalds internet, or spoof starlinkso thats why they find 100s of Pi's with LTE hats in Germany every month in industrial warehouses and hospitals?
>>106643907trivial to automate
>>106643844>>106643939>5G>LTEYou do know you have to pay to keep that shit running, right? And so they CAN trace the device back to you if something goes wrong.Also, you would need access to some electric outlet in the industrial area in the first place. Good luck entering some random factory or whatever without being asked for your worker ID.
>>106643996SIMs are basically untraceable you dumb fag, and in an industrial area you dont even need to fucking enter a building you just tap into a fucking wire from a street lamp
>>106643907No tall hotels do the same things. Loads have a password you get when you come in. Loads don't even have a password, like Citizen M.
Or you could plug an usb on an unattended computer thats already logged on, do it with many computers on many motels, daisy chain your traffic through them (horribly slow), switch between them at random intervals, also using them all at once splitting each packet through them all if you are smart enough to do such a thing unlike me
>>106643880>having good password security is considered third worldim sorry but are you actually retarded or something? do you know we are on /g/g? did you get brain damage from posting on pol?
>>106643939>>106644009>SIM>a device linked to your social security number>CGNAT>actually paying ISP>can be used against you/g/ are getting stupider and stupider each day.
>>106644066>a device linked to your social security numberwhy are mutts like this?
>>106644066good morning mutt, i can buy prepaid SIM with unlimited data for 7€, no id check no nothingfeels good to live in a non police state country
>>106644054Hotels don't give a shit about opsec, they care about customer experience. Changing a password every day is shit customer experience. Were you born this dumb, or did you get a head injury?
>>106644106So you do intend to change it every few months or something?
>fucking around with live wiring>connecting to a network that probably has people paid to manage it>leaving a paper trail tying you back to the roommake parasitic power draw circuit, use a drone to stick wifi modems to power poles, and connect to any of the dozens of unsecured residential networks that'll be in range
>>106644009>SIMs are basically untraceable you dumb fagTell me how I know you've never worked for an ISP, nor have a clue how shit works. Even if you bought the SIM card anonymously, you still have to pay to keep it connected, and they can be found by triangulation.Using hotel WiFi by hiding the device in a socket is a much better idea.
>>106644131holy shit youre retardedyoure not worth spending all the required resources on
>>106644131You can triangulate wifi too so it's a bit of a moot point, but still there have to be better ways to do this than leaving a paper trail. And the connected device will obviously be present on the network and will be strange to anyone who looks at what's connected.
>>106644130Pretty solid idea, though a place more shielded from nature would have to be found for it.
>>106634655What if you shitpost on cellular?
Wanting to learn more about this.Is TCP/IP Illustrated solid material?
>>106644131are you 16?
>>106644106What country?
>>106644249the country doesnt matter you idiot>All European Union (EU) countries offer prepaid SIM cards, and due to EU roaming regulations, a prepaid SIM from any EU country will generally work across all other EU member states at no extra cost, allowing you to use it like a local. This applies to the entire European Economic Area (EEA), which also includes Iceland, Liechtenstein, and Norway.
>>106644271Dude, I'm in germany right now and there's no such a thing.I'm using esim to get data, stop lying on the internet.Post the sim card provider.
>>106644271roam like at home only works for a few months, carriers are allowed to limit it outside of your home country
>>106644291you are just retarded then, any tourist esim will work in germany, no id check no nothinghttps://www.hrvatskitelekom.hr/visiting-croatiahttps://travel.vodafone.com/our-destinations/romaniaim not posting the good ones tho because fuck you, there is one for 7.99€
>>106644371what about for me, i havent been mean to you
>>106644371don't you have to pay a fuck ton of roaming fees then?or did that stop being a thing?
>>106644371>im not posting the good ones tho because fuck you, there is one for 7.99€Really bro.I thought we were talking paid sim?Anyway what you posted cost more than holafly.
>>106644371Those don't seem to take crypto, so how would I pay for them without doxing myself?
>>106644453oh and how would I get the sim card shipped to me without doxing myself?PO boxes aren't anonymous, at least in Germany.
Wanting to learn more about this, my own setup etcIs TCP/IP Illustrated solid material or anything else?
>>106644468you are 100% a underaged retard, stop posting and google what eSIM means
>>106644441>eSIMYou have to register that shit I'm some countries, otherwise it might stop working>>106644471Learn more about what? Setting up a tor exit node? Just google it, retard. You don't need to know anything about networking for any of this shit.
Read whole thread, hackertard wannabee circlejerk.Not one person notices the obvious flaw that you need to give your name to a hotel to rent the roomFirst guy close enough is >>106640723 but he asks the wrong question and then joins the cybernonsense circlejerk.Finally someone realizes >>106642226The other retards keep circlejerkingDamn.
>>106626129insanely based
>>106626129Unbelievably based but dont most hotels have room based wifi credentials that rotate for each guest?
>>106626261Fuck no man, sometimes faults trigger breakers further up the supply so you might be working with live wires when the other rooms calls to restore the supply and you get fried.Just jam the wires into wago connectors.
>>106640723>>106644502(nta)ok, so the hotel idea didnt pan outits not the only place where you can get free wifi thoughthe proverbial starbucks comes to mind
>>106644488How to be safe, dangers and exploits and so on
good thread
>>106644488>You have to register that shit I'm some countries, otherwise it might stop workingI know that which is why I think he's larping.I'm in germany right now and there are no such thing as unlimited data for 7 euro.
jesus christ... Mullvad is literally $5, and unless your an actual pedophile or terrorist its 100% anonymous
>>106644543residential electricity wont kill youi thinkive been shocked a dozen timesonce when working with construction equipment outdoors i got shocked twice in a row:i grabbed the handle of a cement mixer and thought the shock i got was static electricityso i grabbed it a second time and got shocked againonce i was fiddling with live wires and got a shock so powerful i jumped a good 2m to the back from a crouching position and welded my clamps to the wirethe only effect it had on me is that i spent the next minute or so laughing.but still, using insulating gloves might be a good ideaesp if youre working in a small space
>>106644571Well you can get "unlimited data" that is so throttled down it's only useful for messenger services.
>>106644587>unless your an actual pedophile or terrorist its 100% anonymousThen how it is 100% anonymous?
>>106644502Here's an idea: get the password for the neighboring hotels WiFi and use that instead. Maybe rent an airbnb that is close to hotels and get their passwords, and install the device in that airbnb.>>106644587>trusting VPNsLMAO, what a retard
>>106644640because the glowniggers wont bother to tack you because your just shitposting on 4chan
>>106644640hes a preddit normgroid thinking hes smart bc he repeats the current thingant and cicada kind ofdeal
>>106644652unless thats exactly what theyre paid for.feel free to fuck off, offcum
>>106644626That depends on how you got shocked.If you touch a live wire with a dry hand standing with shoes on dry floor, it's unlikely to do harm.But that changes quickly once your hands get sweaty, the floor is a little wet, etc.
>>106644682the equipment thing where i got shocked twice in a row i was standing in light rain, i was covered in water i heard something to the effect of electricity flowing on the surface of thingscould that come in to play?or is it that my body is just less conductive than average?
>>106644672you are really not that important you fat neckbeard
>>106644699Well you said you got shocked by a handle, right?Not directly touching a live wire?There might have been already a lot of resistance between handle and live.
>>106644712>digression>attempt at being offensiveyou drink cum.plus, if im not that interesting then stop investing resources into snooping on me
>>106644716ah, okbc in that case my clothes were more or less wetand so was the cement mixer
>>106644699There's too many unknowns about the situation you are describing to say anything confidently.We can only speak in generalities about this shit, because confounding factors change things radically. One person survives getting struck by lighting because they are soaking wet and the skin effect. Another person dies instantly getting struck by lightning because they had a uncommon but not rare congenital heart anomaly that means a guaranteed heart attack the moment their heart beat is even slightly disrupted.Suffice to say, fucking around with household electricity can and does kill people. Whether it does it often enough that you are concerned is your judgment call. Whether the measures you take to protect yourself are sufficient to mitigate those risks are, once again, your judgment call.
>>106644776thanks for the clarificationi would hate it if my trivalization of the matter caused death or injuryi dont mention my (mis)adventures with electricity often and will abstain from doing so without proper disclaimer, at least
>>106644807Nah, not razzing on you about it at all.Though I do encourage anyone working with electricity to get an electrocardiogram at some point in their lives because of the heart thing I mentioned. It doesn't affect me, personally, but it radically changes your risk profile if you have it and it's better to know for sure.
>>106644626it will depending on the path it takes, if you grab the wires with each hand it will go right across your heart, if you grab it with your left hand and your feet are not insulated it will also get your heart, it can also clamp your hand muscles and you wont be able to let go.
>>106644859>the heart thingah, so you werent parabolical about itthere IS an actual ailment which can cause someone to drop dead when electrocutedits good to know. i might yet work again with construction in the futureand its better to make an employee pass a health check than to have to deal with a bodyofc, safety measures etcbut on a job site you will have all the PPE you may need and people wont use it unless explicitly instructed toanother solution is just to forbid anyone who hasnt been checked to get anywhere near wires.in my experience, actual electricians come only when the fuse box is involved
>>106644899hmmthen feet insulation + relatively low body conductivity is probably why residential electricity was a joke to me until nowi really didnt take the matter to any degree of seriousness, especially after recieving a shock strong enough to weld clamps to the wirageto no ill effect for me, really
>when the fuse box is involved*modifying the fuse boxsometimes its our team who did all the connections and the electrician only came to check/finalize the work, and sign off the papers
>>106642236Per room wifi passwords are common in japan. But a lot still use 1 password for all rooms, and the per room ones are usually just something simple to guess like 8-10 digits of all numbers.
>>106643983>actually the smartest thing said in the threadI did a semester of electrical engineering and literally this is all I learned in 4 months
>>106645647>poke around with my hand in the cabinet>rest my free hand on the metal cabinet frame without thinking for a second>die
>>106645700kek, OK let me clarify. Keep the free hand behind your back.
>>106645700>>106645771i taught myself to just put my finger in my arse so i know i wont accidentally use that hand
Why do you retards talk so much about electricity? You do know there are plastic clips with which you can steal electricity with almost 0 risk?
Couldn't you just set up a proxy to run on the hotel's wifi router? They probably all use the default admin password.
>>106644502This. Also, would be retarded to just assume it'd never be found, and even more retarded to assume it wouldn't raise suspicion if found. Any device that you might use in this scenario has unique manufacturing numbers for itself and every component not made by the assembling company. All of these can be traced to the point of sale, so you'd also need a way to source these anonymously, which frankly doesn't seem possible. Even if bought used, the original purchasor would just rat you out
>>106645878How do you even reach the proxy if its behind a NAT?
>>106645935>All of these can be traced to the point of saleAnon... You buy these things from aliexpress, and chinks don't give a shit about western cops. Good luck tracing the device back to anyone, retard.
>>106645935>All of these can be traced to the point of saleNo they can't retard. You buy a pack of nanopi knockoffs from aliexpress and they are all just stampings of the same shit, AND china wouldn't cooperate even if they could.
Is this crime
>>106645052High AMP is safe if it's low Voltage, but you are probably too retarded to follow it so I won't explain where the line is drawn between safe and dangerous.Stop playing with forces you don't understand or this will be you.
>>106646136If you go beyond the thoughz experiment, yes
