Regular Mint > LMDE

>>106630992
I have, especially for other people. User-friendliness of Mint, but updates at the speed of Debian. It's amazing.

>>106631027
mint team should drop regular edition completely, it's too much work having to fix all the canonical shittery.

Does it have a graphical driver installer yet? I know how to install them on debian but they should just add an installer like in regular mint.

>>106631216
Yes.

>>106630992
>krashes

>>106630992
What's the point of this? Just use Debian.

>>106631248
This is preconfigured debian that works OOTB

Cinnamint is awesome. was surprised how well it works on a 6th gen intel ultrabook 2-in-1. screen rotate and batter life are good. cpu/ram usage low. it just werks(tm).

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>>106630992
why LMDE instead of Debian with cinnamon desktop?

>>106631322
>Debian but with forced Cinnamon because troon-in-charge saw it in their "vision"
Thanks but I will stick with Debian.

>>106630992
>mint
>gigi
they're naming linux distros after vtubers now?

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>>106630992
>Gigi
based

>>106631238
It's not KDE, dumbass.

>>106630992
How much ram it takes? Win7 takes 400MB and has more features. That's my benchmark for installing anything Linux.

>>106631209
Using Ubuntu as the base has the benefit of having easy access to newer kernels, privative drivers and codecs and the other stuff that Canonical has gotten from deals with other corps and that Debian can't get and distribute with the same ease. Some people will say that you don't need all that stuff or that it's possible to install it on Debian/other distros, but the appeal of Mint is having all that preinstalled or available with one click.

>>106630992
First I've heard of this. Why would you ever use regular mint over this? Now I'm kind of mad I didn't know it existed

>>106630992
>if Ubuntu was ever to disappear
don't get my hopes up

so what's the verdict on LMDE? Is it 'stripped down'? Because if it is, miss me with it
if it's still minty and has hella shit and just works and won't send me into a loop of running into needing to install shit and having to type my password 6 times an hour like DEBIAN, it might be worth a shot

>>106631950
It's literally Debian with Mint's own tools (x-apps) and tweaks (themes, default apps and behavior) on top to make it look and work similarly to the main Ubumtu-based version.

>>106631853
>Why would you ever use regular mint over this?
because it's the number one best distro

>>106630992
if they can make it as fool-proof as regular Mint then I am all for it.

>>106631775
LMDE 6 is 'Faye'.
LMDE 7 is 'Gigi'.
Mint testing is on a branch called 'Romeo' (cause he'd break their hearts).

>>106631853
Same, spent half a year on LM21, before learning that LMDE exists (was still 'Elsie' then, which was already quite different than the existing LM21).
The links on the homepage back then were even smaller and more obscured for LMDE, it was really more a back-up than anything serious then.

But it seems like they're polishing LMDE to be as similar as possible to Mintbuntus for now.
And they also seem much more invested in LMDE as something more than just a backup too.
Probably aware there might be a day (and far more likely now, than in the past), when Canonical jumps the shark.

>>106631827
800-900MB, you definitely need 2GB minimum to daily drive Mint+Cinnamon comfortably.
Cinnamon runs JavaScript (!) and Windows 7 UI is entirely C.
Yeah, no, it's not exactly optimal, but an acceptable trade-off for developer time, etc.

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what's the meta to have recent packages on that thing?

>>106631853
Same, they should shill it more prominently on their site.

>>106631950
I use it, it's cosmetically mostly the same as Mint now.
The Ubuntu packages and PPA are not there (instead, you have the Debian apt repository, and of course also Flatpak, like in Mintbuntu).

>>106632091
It is, pretty much, like if Mintbuntu is 95% foolproof, LMDE is there at 80-90%.
It *is* more 'advanced' for the average user, but it is also more pure.

I'm "pro-1337," I could be using Gentoo, but LMDE is the "just works, leave me alone, I gotta get shit done"-distro to me.
(Also my go-to now on the emergency live USB stick I carry around/instead of Kali.)

>>106632114
>which was already quite different than the existing LM21
which was *still quite different

LMDE 5 required like two or three extra steps after installing to look like LM21.
But since LMDE6, the live USB desktops look exactly the same on both versions.

>>106632147
>It is, pretty much, like if Mintbuntu is 95% foolproof, LMDE is there at 80-90%.
very cool, I am legit trying it on my next machine.

>>106631337
to avoid typical Debian's post-installation fuckery.

>>106632114
>Yeah, no, it's not exactly optimal, but an acceptable trade-off for developer time, etc.
Like the start menu has (a barely noticeable on an 5700X3D) delay of 10ms to show, in Windows 7, it's basically instant.
You *do* notice it in a direct comparison, I recently had to use my Win7 machines again, but, like I said, it's acceptable to me.

>>106632147
>I use it, it's cosmetically mostly the same as Mint now.
There are some slight differences in the packages, though, since Debian is more "free" than Ubuntu.
For example, VLC has no problem opening RTSP streams in Ubuntu (IIRC), but VLC is compiled WITHOUT RTSP support on Debian, so you'd either have to compile VLC yourself on Debian with RTSP support enabled or find some other solution.

But that's some advanced shit, I'd fathom.

For those unaware:
LMDE6: Debian repositories, 'Faye' on top ;)
Mintbuntu: Ubuntu repositories (which are COPY of Debian with Ubuntu on top), with Mint on top again

>>106632232
>Mint on top
And that's not some contrived idiom either, as dpkg, the Debian package manager, picks from the highest (== most on top) deb source when it finds the same package in two or more repositories.
>>106631337
For example, in the case of 'cinnamon', you generally have a newer Cinnamon in the Mint repository than on Debian repository, as the Mint devs literally are also the Cinnamon devs (or vice-versa) and they can push to the Mint repository in a less constricted manner than in Debian, which insists on being 'stable' (which is a good thing, in general, which is why you use Debian to begin with).

And yes, also to avoid post-install fuckery.
>>106632199
If you know what a Debian preseed.cfg is, you might be interested in this preseed script I'm writing, that installs a minimal Debian system and then in the post-installation downloads the Mint keywring and echoes a few scripts into
>/usr/share/cr4q/
to install some "custom" Mint versions.
It also sets the apt policy to not install recommends, and marks all packages, except for a few (very critical) exceptions, as auto (as opposed to regular Mint, which installs ALL packages as manually installed).
https://pastebin.com/9UBpTe4H
This is probably only interesting for advanced users, but also advanced users from non-Mint distros, who are avoiding Mint because it might be bloated.

(Also, 4ch_webm.py now should support -P 1 for single-pass)
https://pastebin.com/STirDssz

>>106632471
>preseed script
inb4 "hax," the keyring source
>https://mirror.as20647.net/linuxmint-packages/
is
>https://mirror.ipb.de/debian
IPB, some ISP in Berlin.

Replace them with your own, in fact, read the entire thing first and understand what it does, if you want to use it.

>>106632673
*Also, it's for Bookworm/Faye and is still experimental, and you're on your own/no guarantees.

>>106630992
Do they provide their own repo for novidya drivers like the Ubuntu version or is it back to relying on the cuda repos like Debian?