why is everyone sleeping on cloud gaming?
>>106632850When it's ready the audience will come.
>>106632850Use case?
>>106632850>higher latency>still have to buy each game>can't mod gamesi'd rather just locally stream.
>>106632850Paying a fee to play the games you bought sounds bad, even though it may be cheaper than buying the hardware you need. I guess not all titles are supported on the system, and I’m sure input lag must absolutely suck for FPS games.
>>106632850given the constant data leaks and security situation, you really want everything on the fucking cloud? Even your own personal files, constantly synced to a server somewhere? Jesus Christ you are dumb, you deserve cloud gaming.
>>106632882brown people gaming
>>106632850in Russia it is super active and feels as good as ever.https://vkplay.ru/we have many many many companies offering it and it is quite good.
>>106632850Subscriptions are gay also 200+ping
>>106632850denuvo games are pretty much unplayable since these cloud pcs basically resetup the instance for every user and the game gets locked out after 5 attempts. dragons dogma 2 highlighted this.
>>106632850I already game remotely but on my local cloud
>>106632886>>higher latencyThis 1000x. I used to support 'remote work' aka citrix aka rdp so I would get shit whenever people complained their citrix was slow. When latency (ica round trip time) would reach about 50ms you get complaints cause clicks don't follow what users do. Typing gets delayed as well. Couple this with a notoriously difficult audience like gamers and you get issues. Maybe for some games it can work, like visual novels, or sims like games. But with RTS or shooters? Never.
>>106632850The only reason I'm not interested in it is input lag. I'm extremely sensitive to input delay, especially when playing with a keyboard and mouse. It's why I don't use frame gen, not even the x2 setting. Geforce Now isn't bad by any means, it's just not for nitpicky people like me.
>>106635729Noticing 100+ ms of input lag is not nitpicking. It feels like shit even with a controller.
>>106632850I watched the LTT room makeover thing recently and it made shadow streaming look like ass. I was a bit surprised they let an ex-sponsor look so bad.
>>106632850For one; I have a 4090.
>>106632886You can get 10ms latency if you live near one of the data centers. Even game pass streaming isn't bad now unless you're in bumfuck nowhere
>>106634023VNs can run on potatoes, you wouldn't even have an audience to begin with
blast from the past
>>106632850I prefer to own my games. Cloud gaming is for goy cattle who own nothing and are happy.
>>106636134>he thinks he owns his games
>>106632850It performs bad for a good chunk of the US still. I feel like its closer to what devs want to do though. A platform needs to come along and incentise devs to make streaming only games. It will probably have to be a cloud company, very large publisher, or game engine company. I bet MS will take another shot with gamepass soon enough. Easier to target, patch, and tinker with the game over time. Could do partial graphics updates and stuff like that. Thanks for reminding me to try it out again.
>>106636147I go to play a game I own, the approximate chances of it working the way I predict are 100%that's all I'm interested in, anything else is semantics
>>106632886>locally streamthats still ass latency, or my gigabit ethernet setup is somehow broken
>>106632850It's awful
>>106632850Erm... it's "you will own nothing and you will be happy".
>>106632850>why is everyone sleeping on cloud gaming?I like ownership
>>106632850cloud gamingcloud saveslive serviceDRMall of this is cuckoldryuser should be able to use anything with their software/gamespatching custom dllsusing wrappers like directx to opengl, vulkanmodding the gamesfucking around with game files and the program itself, reverse engineering (for modding and patches)
>>106638102/threadOwnership is what matters. I'm not getting subscription service just play a game.
>>106632850can't mod games
>>106632850Input lag will never be solved due to physics and the speed of light, so what's the point?
>>106632850nvidia shill threadserious anywer: because of the latency
>>106638639>so what's the point?Ummm the point? Uh it's to continuously pay for a streaming subscription rather than own physical copies of your games and movies because reasons...
>>106632850>Another subscriptionNo thank you Mr. Rajeet Goldstein
>>106632850>why is everyone sleeping on subscription-based gaming?
>>106632850I'm not sleeping on it, it's just not interesting
>>106632890>and I’m sure input lag must absolutely suck for FPS games.Geforce Now is good enough for non-competitive play.If you use a gamepad, you don't notice it at all.Now does it really make sense to give up ownership of your gaming hardware, is the real question.
>>106639045>gamepadWhy not have your cake AND eat it too?
>>106632850It sucks. There is a massive amount of delay. Stop pretending it works shill.
Because gaming is a pretty prime example of an example of an application where low latency comes at a premium. In a world where gamers will pay extra to buy a 360hz monitor over a 240hz monitor to shave off hundredths of a second, it doesn't really make sense. The reality is that nowadays even phones are powerful enough graphically to create a plenty compelling game so why deal with this complex mainframe setup to begin with?The reason streaming is so popular for music and video is because those are applications where 100ms of latency usually doesn't fucking matter. Cloud gaming is just conceptually a bad idea because it will never be more fun to get better graphics through cloud gaming at a higher cost when you vill own nothing, than it will be to get the responsiveness of local play with more basic graphics.
>>106632850Cloud tech is slower than fiber
software can never be a service
>>106632850Why does everyone (hopefully) flush after they pinch one off?
>>106632882The final anti cheating solution for multiplayer games.
>>106632850because intried it and the screen was fuzzy and thenlag was gay. plus i have a 5070ti so im not some poorfag that needs cloud gaming(i am a poorfag really)
>>106632850I had to use it for playing an MMO for about 2-3 weeks (since the PSU in my desktop died and took out some components with it and I wasn't in a financial position to do it immediately) Surprisingly it ran super well. Artifacting did happen from time to time though which was the only real annoying part.If you have latency of anything more than 40ms to your nearest data center however, don't even bother with anything fast paced like fighting games or PVP shooters. I noticed a lot of Apex Legends players use it for some reason around the time I had to use it so I guess it works for them if they still play that game at all.
>>106632886100 monthly hourly limit for Freetards AND the bottom two tier of paying users.keeeeeeek
Why bother when my machine already runs most games ever made.They should sell this sort of remote gaming by making a game so gigantic in scope that it can't be done on a singular local computer.
>>106632850I'd rather not rely on an outside service, but I do like the idea of having a box in a rack at home and being able to play vidya on any TV in my house or my laptop, replace my clunky big and noisy desktop with a mini PC or something. I mean it's doable now, but certainly isn't smooth as a cloud service.
>>106632882It could be good for MMOs, where you're still getting most of the disadvantages of cloud gaming (latency, always online, monthly fees) even if you play it on your own hardware
>>106632850>Every action has has 50ms input delay, 100ms latency >Mario dies trying to squish the first goombas Cloud gaming is fucking stupid
>>106632850I'm fine with streaming from my own pc using moonlight/sunshine, that's actually pretty cool and i get to decide at what bandwidth and quality it streams. I am NOT homever paying to rent a machine from a service that decides for me what quality i stream at where i don't own the hardware and can't do whatever i want with it and having to pay a subscription like a cuck.Same as streaming from jellyfin at actual 4k is great compared to paying for Netflix that streams you heavily compressed "4k
I'm sleeping in my bed, the duck are you talmbout?
>Why do you not turn your PC into a laggy substandard console and pay a monthly fee for the convince of the publisher?Huh, i wonder
>>106632850Not only do they want us not to own the games we "buy", now they want us not to own the hardware either?No thanks.
