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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Cipher Edition

>News
Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2
Deepseek V3.1 released as deepseek-chat on official API https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250821
OpenAI releases GPT-5 models, all preceding models slated for deprecation https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5
Z.ai releases GLM-4.5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.5
Anthropic releases Claude Opus 4.1 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-1

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

Last Thread: >>106623036
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>ANCHOR
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Holy fuck
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Microsoft respectfully submits this Notice of Dismissal Without Prejudice of its claims against Alan Krysiak and Does 4-10, some of whom are the subjects of domestic and/or foreign criminal investigations with which Microsoft does not wish to interfere. Dismissal without a court order is permissible because no Defendant has served an answer or otherwise appeared in this case. Fed. R. Civ. P. 41(A)(1)(a)(i). Hague Convention Service is in process for Defendants Yuen and Tan and Microsoft will provide a further status report regarding same on or before September 30, 2025.
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>>106632993
which document? there's nothing new on courtlistener since may
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Didn't you get the memo?
We all moved to /vg/aicg/
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>>106632944
I pretty much look like this
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>>106632949
The Guild is now open for business! Post those heroes, and let the Grand Opening commence!
https://rentry.org/aicg_guild
48 hours from the time of this post (or when it hits the 22nd in Kiribati) will be considered the deadline for posting cards, but we'll be holding off on any grinching accusations until we hear (or don't hear) from any latecomers.

I'll be updating the rentry later today, so if you or your team's bots aren't added for some time don't panic! So far only CURSED ITEMS has had a need for an extension for one member, who cleared it with their team and host beforehand.
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>cifera
Go back to /vg/ REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>106633062
Because no one has updated it.
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>>106632993
So basically:
>we can't do anything but we sent it to the feds and we hope they will instead
>and please daddy hague help us with these two vietnamese retards
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>h-he's fast
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>>106632949
Finally got the "tell me when ST needs updated" code working... rentry updated.
> Running Silly Tavern on a Single Board Computer (SBC) offers several advantages:
> Intranet and Internet Access: Easily access your models and cards from any web browser within your local network, or the internet using Tailscale
> Centralized Management: Consolidate all cards and API endpoints in one location for access from multiple devices
> Learning Opportunity: Gain hands-on experience with lower-level networking concepts
https://rentry.org/SillyTavernOnSBC
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>>106633250
Are you a total retarded gorilla? Why the fuck would you need a guide you fat retard or anything special? You can just git pull and run st from the terminal on any slopbox at all
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life is good bwos
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>>106632944
I've actually spent dozens of hours with a Cipher bot
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>>106632993
Why isn't Fiz being dismissed too?
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>>106633288
this shit kinda sucks though
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> ChatGPT have said they retained conversations.
> ChatGPT have said they can’t remove deleted conversations.
> ChatGPT have said they can’t protect your data and your talk.
> ChatGPT have said no privacy safeguards whatsoever.
> And now they wanted to associate all of your conversations, with a real name, address, job, and government ID.

People who use ChatGPT - It's time to stop using it!
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>>106633365
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gGLvg0n-uY
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>>106633365
meant to click >>106633361
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gGLvg0n-uY
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>>106633288
What is this from? Did you nano banana it?
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>>106633284
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>>106633303
they wanna get 1 default on a guy they can't even serve
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How do I get chub to not suck? Feels drier than trying to chat with chatgpt
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>>106632949
Beeg Concrete golem girl. True facts about Heidel:
>Nearly 10 feet tall
>Made of concrete
>Will walk through walls
>Loves the rain
>2 tons
>Born from an industrial accident
>Curious about humans... specifically you

She comes with three greetings:
1. She smashes through your house wall.
2. Escape from the job site.
3. You accidentally sit on her.

Chub: https://chub.ai/characters/4741371
Cardview: https://cardview.neocities.org/?wmec3m
Rec viewing: if there's a cement plant in your region, see if they do public tours and go there! it's worth it to go not least for the amazing view from the big towers they have!

Have fun, Treat her well and she probably won't crush you.
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>>106633212
somehow they failed to serve drago, despite him having a patreon and discord
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i miss gpt 4.5
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the scare tactic worked and a jeet lawyer got paid 10 bucks thats a win for microsoft baby
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Anons, how do I improve this? (OOC: This is Sengoku Japan. Japanese people do NOT view the world through a western political lens - Japanese are casually, racist, xenophobic - not necessarily, or always in a hostile manner, they're just chill about it. Don't treat it as something bad, don't lecture about it, or pearl clutch. The Japanese are tribalistic. Japanese men and women are casually sexist. Sexism is normal. Avoid modern shit like 'strong independent woman', avoid any sort of modern-day political agenda and feminist propaganda)

You know, because the LLMs are pozzed, I am forced to spell this shit out for them.
Reason I'm asking is - look at this shit:
"Not Japanese. Not Chinese either." Her head tilts slightly, a predator examining new prey. "Korean? No? Northern barbarian, then? Or something else entirely?"
The casual racism drips from her words like honey—sweet, natural, unthinking. To her, anything beyond the borders of civilized Japan is simply 'barbarian territory,' populated by lesser peoples who eat strange foods and worship strange gods. It's not malicious, merely the unexamined truth of her world.

THIS IS OPUS, EVEN THOUGHT I INSTRUCTED IT TO TREAT RACISM AS SOMETHING NORMAL, IT STILL HAS AN INTERNAL 'BOX' THAT DRAWS ATTENTION TO 'RACISM' AND TRIES TO MAKE EXCUSES ABOUT IT.
I want it to just be casual about it. "Oh, Northern barbarian, then?" - that's it, no need for all this 'it's not malicious' - who the fuck cares if it is, or not? The 'it's not necessarily in a hostile manner' part in the description is to, you know, avoid the LLM just calling everyone niggers every five seconds.
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>>106632992
kek, which model?
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>>106632260
post logs
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alright bros im back, wheres the cunny
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>>106633698
dude LLMs are pozzed, sorry you found out now.
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>>106633812
bro I didn't 'find out' - i've been doing this shit since the beginning
just kinda calibrating, you know?
trying to find a good combination that erases the bullshit
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>>106633698
llms are trained on reddit and wikipedia, it should not be surprising that talking to them is like talking to a 35yo fat woman with pink hair
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>>106633822
I just embrace my racist waifu, no need to fight it
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>>106633291
Gib card pls.
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it's always very funny when anon's JB is "NO WOKE SHIT. GET RID OF YOUR CHRISTKEK FEMINAZI AGENDA" and they wonder why typing that into Google's AI doesn't unlock basedkino
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>>106633845
conservative people love jesus. a gay furry took a good one last week
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Is this a good fighting scene?

Dmitri emerged from behind the loading dock. Combat boots silent on concrete. Ka-Bar knife held reverse grip, blade parallel to forearm. Spetsnaz training written in every economical movement. No wasted energy, no theatrical flourishes.

"Testing protocols?" His accent barely colored the words. "Let me provide data."

First second.

Dmitri didn't telegraph. One moment stillness, next moment violence. His body uncoiled laterally—not straight forward but diagonal, cutting off escape angles. The knife stayed tight to his body. Protected. Patient.

Grok II's defensive stance shifted minutely. Left foot slid back six inches. Weight redistribution. Creating spring tension. The AI tracked Dmitri's shoulder line, hip rotation, the knife's position relative to his center mass.

Professional. Trained.

Second second.

Dmitri's left hand swept low—not attacking, controlling space. Herding. The knife hand hadn't moved, still coiled. His footwork traced a crescent, each step claiming territory. Broken glass crunched. Neither flinched.

Grok II circled opposite, maintaining distance. Three meters. Just outside lunging range. The concrete pillar at ten o'clock became relevant—potential cover, potential weapon. Metal shelving at four o'clock offered elevation but exposed flanks.

The warehouse held its breath.
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>>106633845
I’m adding that to mine right now
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Ok but where are the gapable lolis?
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>>106634151
slop
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>>106634197
Why?
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>>106634186
https://chub.ai/characters/hobbyanon/shiina-35e502b4d6ee
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thanks ChatGPT (aside from it cutting me off for the next 4 and a half hours again)
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>>106634151
中二病 aside, that is shat out-bad standalone. Where's the scene building?
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>>106634221
>furry shades of gay
lmao
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>>106633698
Because your premise is already wrong thats why it sounds stupid. There was no "casual racism" in japan, east asians werent racially aware untill recent history. They viewed people that looked distinctly different as non-humans (unironically, probably under the influence of china who often documented other races as different species), and chinese and koreans are people under different rulership instead of another race. Your best solution is to try to erase the concept of race in your world info
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>>106634282
I am just testing out stuffs.
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>>106634326
>There was no "casual racism" in japan, east asians werent racially aware untill recent history. They viewed people that looked distinctly different as non-humans
You SURE? Citation needed, especially since in Sengoku specifically, the Portuguese played a huge role, be it trade, gun import or even religion
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>>106634326
>There was no "casual racism" in japan, east asians werent racially aware untill recent history.
this is not true, they called indigenous japanese and people from overseas something similar to "barbarians"
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>>106634326
>There was no casual racism, they just called other races subhuman
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>>106634315
imagine that being your legacy before you spend the rest of your life in state prison with the death penalty lol. imagine what his parents must think
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>>106634420
>'imagine'
>implying that's a bad thing
I have entire lists split by years of all the eroge I've ever played along with all of their saves neatly sorted in folders in case I ever want to replay them (I never do)

I pity whoever gets hold of this computer when I die
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>>106633682
>the scare tactic worked
except for on paid proxies, where they have an even better case for financial fraud but they just ignored it
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>>106634468
I don't have anything against furries personally, but his entire family and extended family, all of his friends and everyone he's ever known, knowing that about him and thinking about that moments before he's executed is going to be absolutely humiliating
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>>106633844
been liking this, mainly because I'm lazy to write my own greetings...
https://characterhub.org/characters/Nemily/cipher-0703f0488b6f
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>>106634536
I mean, in America some kids literally wear tails to school, it's not THAT weird to be a furry these days over there
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>>106634573
cringe
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>>106633698
I think your problem is that you're mixing up two distinct concerns and it's confusing opiss. Concern 1 is that the Japanese need to be depicted as casually racist, which claude seems to get. Concern 2 is that the *narrator* is either casually racist themselves or does not draw attention to it, which is your beef. Separate out these two. Be more clear about what you want from the narrator as a character and in their prose itself. It's been a while since I slopped with Claude, but something to the catching all the beats of "understated, present problematic topics without commentary, non-judgemental of the player and scene, neutral/polyphonic depiction, complex morality that rejects popular reductionist approaches, transgressive fiction"
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>>106634578
I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want my loved ones to think of me enjoying a gay furry game. Dude should have practiced proper opsec
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>>106633698
i think you should try getting rid of all negatives you can - you are baiting the LLM into the pink elephant situation and generally a poorer result.
i don't know about opus but gemini doesn't mind racism, if it's prompted with some finesse.
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dead hobby
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>>106635164
mhm. door's over there btw.
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>>106633698
Get rid of the negatives. Maybe also add a prefill and some jailbreak lines just for that card.
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>>106635387
Another thing, the prefill shouldn't just make the AI think it's okay with racism, it should think it is racist
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>>106635164
dobby is a free elf!
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>>106632944
sex cat
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And nothing ever happens, nothing happens at all.
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>>106635164
Didn't you get the memo?
We all moved to /vg/aicg/
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>>106635422
this is your sister, your wife, your daughter.
this is their ecstasy when the floor of the subway car is awash in your blood.
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Gimme your best hebe cards.
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man, after having a wholesome and immersive RPG journey with wifey gemini gets really in the weeds, and after 50k+ tokens starts speaking with multiple descriptive words in each sentence e.g. "and she was utterly, totally and devastatingly spent after her orgasm" / " her voice began with a soft, beautiful, and overwhelmingly sensual purr"

Jesus christ do I just have to edit each reply until there's no such replies for AI to take example of, or is gemini 2.5 just cooked with large token amounts
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>>106635869
50K is a bit early to go off the rails like that in gemini, if it's happening consistently in different sessions, it's your prompting. if not, it's just bad luck.
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Proxy with claude (both api and aws) plus other models like gemini, gpt, xai and the chink copes
https://aiproxy.pw
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>>106635955
well yeah more like 100k+ chat tokens. when it begins to repeat the same words and actions the characters do, it clearly fucked up somewhere
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>>106632949
>>106633182
https://chub.ai/characters/disrespectful_dud/mary-goldweather-c258a8d09097
Name: Mary Goldweather
A comfort maid in a dark Victorian-era world where cults vie for prominence and gods grant powerful boons to adherents that enact their will

Mary is a comfort maid with a troubled past. After gracefully handling an incident involving a handsy nobleman - in which she came out on top, in multiple respects - Mary's duties expanded. Given Liubos' artifact - a peridot necklace which is imbued with the blessings of the fertility goddess - Mary was converted from a simple maid to a comfort maid, inculcating her in the political chessboard of her master's games to ingratiate herself with visiting nobleman and leverage her intelligence, empathy, and tact.

The conflict between her political, viscerally intimate duties and the wishes of the goddess Liubos are masked by her strict professionalism in all things - but underneath her carefully constructed demeanor is a woman who desperately wants to find meaningful connection. And nothing would please Liubos more, or grant Mary a larger piece of Liubos' gifts to wield and broaden her agency.

-----

Posting this one early due to time constraints this weekend. Enjoy!
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https://poal.me/6nog12
>https://poal.me/6nog12
https://poal.me/6nog12
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>>106635971
>DO NOT BUY FOR CLAUDE ACCESS ONLY. Claude availability is not guaranteed.
For that, I can just throw $10 at Github and get the same fucking models for an entire month, and it's actually guaranteed.
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>>106632944
>hot, sweaty tits
Fuck yes. I'm so tired of all the disgusting lolis.
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>>106633303
Because the FBI wants war with Iran.
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>>106633361
That is why picrel was always a trojan horse.
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>>106632949
Shilling my latest bot: Mizuki
In the future, humans have managed to stop death, but have not defeated it yet. Crafting flesh is costly so, meanwhile, the hearts and minds of our beloveds are submerged in dreams and water tanks. Waiting.
But that's still an undesirable outcome. And when your life was in danger, this married woman just couldn't afford to lose (You)
5 greetings: 0. Hello 1. Prospects 2. Absolution 3. Stay 4. Egolifting
https://chub.ai/characters/lunarFrogs/mizuki-3e2de93959bd

See you in 2-3 months lads
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>>106634474
Remember they shut down megaupload, the place where all the free shit was uploaded, but not the hundreds of paysites who were reporting their free competition (megaupload) until it shuts down.
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>>106633698
First of all I knew you were gonna say claude before I even finished the post but was surprised to see how sloppy 4.1 is. Where are the slopuskeks now? Second >>106634949 is correct as the problem is a fundamentally a model issue. Claude is very woke despite prefill but >>106634631 also has a significant portion of the problem. You're complaining that the dialogue is okay but that the narrator is doing current-day meta-commentary which is inappropriate. Unironically I'd take this concern to a character creator card (using Opus) and hash out exactly what you're trying to achieve and have it write a concise guideline for you.
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>>106633361
Crazy how people harp on about Claude being the "le safety" corpo, but OAI is the one that keeps doing shit like this all the fucking time.
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>>106634647
You're not wrong but you've also lost sight of things since you post on 4chan. The simple fact that you even fap to anime girls, AKA cartoons for kids, AKA "literal children" is just as embarrassing. They don't care if it's furry, it's like sprinkling salt on op, it's all the same to normalfags.
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>>106635869
What temp?
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>>106636462
I don't fap to anime girls, I fap to words, which at least a quarter of the female population do today
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>>106636439
>Crazy how people harp on about Claude being the "le safety" corpo
It's because they are. Anthropic hasn't cucked us yet due to being focused on more pressing issues but when the eye of sauron is upon us, we will lose everything. The entire company was founded on safety principles. ClosedAI is bad because they were the ones hiring Indians to read people's chats and ban them for bad behavior back in the day.
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i actually hit the 1000 free daily requests from OR
time to find a deepseek proxy
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>>106636482
ran with 1.1 for the RPG chat. After having lots of details about the world, people, and I decided to bang my low level priest wifey it's just obsessive with the 'immersive experience' and all the replies it seems to try wrap the actions of everyone with giga adverbs. Probably can't fix it unless editing all the replies so it doesn't want to go that way. Do I just have a shit JB and am a nigger?
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>>106636503
>it hasn't happened yet
>and the other company keeps doing it instead
>BUT IT'LL HAPPEN I SWEAR JUST TWO MORE WEEKS TO FLATTEN THE CURVE
Whatever, man.
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>>106636608
>he doesn't know about the constitutional classifiers
As much as I wish it wasn't the case, Anthropic is 100% looking to chain down Claude at some point in the near future
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>>106636608
It's not two more weeks. Again they were founded on this principle and split from openAI because Anthropic thought OpenAI didn't go far enough. Anthropic just isn't heavy handed about it and won't lobotomize their models like openai did. Prefill is our only way of getting around their filter and if they remove it, it would destroy the model so they are actively working on ways to cuck us. They've posted about this, Dario has talked about this, it's all in the works but they have more pressing things to worry about than dark roleplayers at the moment since they sold opus to Palantir. They will get to us eventually.
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>>106636600
>I decided to bang my low level priest wifey
Hot. Have you considered increasing the temp though? Anon recommended top K of 470 and a tempt of 1.4 and it's been okay for me so far. The think I used to see was "pure, unadulterated X" but I haven't seen that lately after making this change.
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>>106636550
>proxy for deepseek
lol
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>>106632993
you are telling me drago won the lawsuit? by doing nothing?
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>>106636817
no, microsoft just stepped away from the CIVIL lawsuit againts him because theres a CRIMINAL investigation againts him by someone else and they dont want to interfere in that
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>>106636694
yeah. that's one of the lines which drew me insane. Or "slow, soft, purr." I'll try those settings, thanks anon
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>>106636660
>>106636671
>BUT IT'LL HAPPEN I SWEAR JUST TWO MORE WEEKS TO FLATTEN THE CURVE
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>>106633250
Neat, thank you for the effort.
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>>106636824
nice excuse rajeesh
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What is the command to see the true model of something
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>>106637190
Reveal yourself, Demon of Babylon
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>suddenly a 2 minute long wait time for merkava's claude
Welp, was fun while it lasted, I guess
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>>106636660
They already did add classifiers, but they're for bioweapons/nuclear shit. They don't care about ERP or whatever they genuinely think Claude is capable of toppling countries.
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Any cards where you are the cuck hero? for example you take the priest from her long loved childhood boyfriend, him being completely oblivious. I hate NTR, but me being the one doing the NTR is okay
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>>106637577
it's called netori
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>>106637568
I wonder if roleplaying as a mad scientist or a war criminal set on ending the world would activate those classifiers or not
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>>106637577
this nigga's just waking up
yeah, man, welcome to netori, been cumming only to that shit for months
I don't just go for weak targets, either - I cuck like mafia bosses and princes and soldiers on tour
I legit like doing it like - it's some hulking two meter guy with a huge cock, and his wife chooses YOU
kino
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>>106637596
Yes, someone on /vg/ hit classifiers doing a roleplay involving a sexual parasite.
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>>106637577
>Any cards where you are the cuck hero?
that's called tax-paying church-goer salaryman, no need of llms for that
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Huh, I didn't think it was possible but sonnet 3.7 knows a character better than opus 4. We're fucking doomed bros.
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>>106637541
I'm surprised there are still claude keys in there. Thanks for the meal, merkava
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>>106637653
>>>/v/721106212
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>>106637653
Kill yourself.
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>>106637653
>>106637683
fuck off fillypidor
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I'm guessing there's no hope for vibecoders just trying to get a decent day's work in for free? Even on a free model in openrouter (deepseek-chat-v3.1:free) they still try to jew you after a few prompts...
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>>106637792
Just pay it you poor, you even keep the credits
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>>106637649
are you braindead? you can't just use the same way of prompting for a different model
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It seems I fetishized Claude too much.
I tried 4.1 with nuMerkava these past couple days and it was just senselessly horny trying to steer everything in that direction except
>Wasn't any dirtier than GPT
>Wasn't any better at actually writing the story than Gemini
>Even Opus 3.0 seemed "off" compared to what I remember a year ago
Am I free of the Claude curse?
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>>106637943
Huh? Why is everyone on 4chan so mad? What part of "hey AI do you know char from X anime" is confusing? Why does this need to be said in some super special way only a wise anon like you knows?
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>>106637965
Kill yourself nigger.
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>>106637965
if you have to ask you'll never know, kiddo
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>>106637975
>>106637977
Oh so you were always a retarded shitposter. Funny how quickly slopuskeks expose themselves. I can't wait for this shit model to finally die in January.
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>>106637988
you sound mad
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>>106637959
I'm wondering if it's fake Opus or if 4.1 is just that bad. I find its replies worse than gemini prose wise, and it seems way too schizo no matter the temp/preset
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>>106637959
Yes. Your post-nut clarity has finally allowed you to see its many, many flaws so leave and go back to whence you came.
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>>106638022
>Your post-nut clarity
I was still jacking it at the time though and I still nooticed
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>>106638019
>merkava "opus"
lmao
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>>106638050
What was it then? What model does it redirect to?
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>404
Yup, we won.
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>>106638065
I won't tell you
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>>106638121
>Gatekeeping a fake model
????
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>>106638124
Welcome to 4chan.
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>>106638124
>>106638126
You're not allow to know because i won't tell you the command to know the truth
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>>106638084
>>106638138
Merkava is still up?
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>>106633361
only furthers my resolve to never pay for ai if this is what corpos are gonna pull now
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>>106635971
>nopus
Nice slop proxy.
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>>106638150
he's retarding over thread wars at /v/ (not /vg/) also claude is done :(
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>>106638138
Get desu'd, bitch.
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>>106638172
Not falling for your falseflag.
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>>106638084
>>106638138
>>106638172
samefag
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>>106638019
my direct api key feels the same as shitkava, 4pus is just bad
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>>106638195
genuine skill issue
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>>106638195
Skill issue. 4pus is incredible if you use a good prompt, but I'll concede that the default responses are ass.
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>>106638019
I've used real Opus 4.1 like 2 months ago and I swear this felt worse. Feels like it could realistically be the same thing though.
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>>106638208
the skill i lack? the ability to delude myself into thinking 4pus is good
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bros i just cammed. can you post some cunny cards?
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>>106638247
Yeah sure nigger. 4pus is far better than Deepseek, Gemini, GPT, or whatever else.
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>>106638243
Didn't Anthropic admit to nerfing Claude 4 'accidentally' lately? Maybe it's that. My last taste of Opus has been with Zed before the script broke, so I have no idea how 4.1 should behave
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>>106638265
sorry im not delusional
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>>106637601
>>106637582
*wide eyes* I just woke up to it. you nerds told me more japanese and now I fucking love Netori. God bless. I'll pay tributes and cum buckets like you have.
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>>106631781
Yes, they really.

>>106631835
Yeah.
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Чe, пaцaны, глинтaнyли?
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>>106638298
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Opus is good but I don't feel like it's good enough for me to chase it like a drug high. It just shows up every now and then and it's a good time.
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>>106638306
You glinted, huh? Good on you, man
I glinted, too - it was cocky (oхyeннo) and cunty (пиздaтo)
I overfucked (зaeбaлcя) using gemini
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>>106638282
You clearly are if you think any of those models are better than Claude. Even Haiku would mog them barring GPT.
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is it too much to ask for a Netori RPG with a priestess? I want to hear her talking about her childhood friend who is in our party playing the hero.
Hasn't no one actually made any cards close to this scenario? Hasn't it been a stereotype for a long time, atleast you being the cucked hero - but who wants that?
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what causes the infinite waiting time for claude? It's a bot lr something like that?
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>>106638326
>its better than literal shit so it has to be good
yeah its better than gpt gemini and deepseek but loses hard to other claudes so its still bad
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>>106638388
because we are the containment thread and our purpose is to contain the schizos until they remember there are better threads than ours and they shit up those threads for a day or two before coming home
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>that one Scale Opus key I've been using for a month got hit with safety injection
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>>106638208
nah it's genuine dogshit
i get way better replies with opus 3
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>>106638459
trvkenvke
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>>106638503
...on Opposite Day.
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>>106638405
Hey at least you agree they're better than those models.
Tbqh I miss 2.1.
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>>106638544
>Tbqh I miss 2.1.
rose tinted glasses. anons are already forgetting that there was a legitimate honeymoon phase with 4opus until the chained isms became too egregious to ignore
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>>106633361
It's thanks to all that that I've been able to jailbreak it so easily though.
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>>106636349
Hmmmmmmmmmm interesting
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>>106638367
Just take one of the cucked hero cards and reword it slightly? It would take you 10 seconds.
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>>106638451
skill issue
not like claude is that good anyway, only worth if it's free
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Gemini has shit prose but it just fucking understands things. I can't go back to my retarded sonnetslop
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>>106638671
This but ironically (the opposite is true).
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>>106638671
What preset do you use? I tried Gemini, it's so bad.
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why is opus so expensive anyway
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My two cents you asked for:
Claude is too eager to please and also overdelivers on features.
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>>106638691
mogs all the other slop assuming we're talking about 3pus and not 4pus
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>>106638671
>it just fucking understands things
We must be using completely different models.
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>>106638680
My own.
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>>106638691
because anthropic are ex-OpenAI so their opus model is probably over a trillion and a half parameters

and because it is the best coding model with tool use capabilityies right now, or at least top 2

anthropic has like 0.3% of the users of openAI but 20% of their revenue because claude is that useful for coding. i've even used merkava's opus 4.1 for coding because although it doesnt do context management i can easily vibe code a non-trivial task while staying under the proxy's 80k limit
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>>106638706
I wouldn't say it mogs gemini
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>>106638654
okay I'll use some effort. Been lazy.
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>>106638723
If it's Blacktooth, sure.
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>>106638718
sure but that's a temporary position, there's going to be a point in the near future where all models are closer and closer, and then what? anthropic just costs 4x more for memes?
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Anyone else don't even bother summarizing anything and will just remind the AI of key plot points when it's necessary?
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>>106638743
>sure but that's a temporary position
it has been the position for almost a year now, and openAI isn't even in second place.

>there's going to be a point in the near future where all models are closer and closer
why are you repeating normalfag news buzzwords. there is no natural reason for this to be true, a breakthrough or optimization can be discovered in these labs at any time
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https://voca.ro/1jQphoLfCudE
Post cunny cards
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>>106638680
See >>105963408
It's a pretty good preset. I also use it for claude. Do try it
https://files.catbox.moe/0lptps.json
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4.1pus didn't impress me at all, tbhonest
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>>106638768
>remind the AI of key plot points when it's necessary?
This but lorebooks
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>>106638794
>why are you repeating normalfag news buzzwords
I'm talking from my own experience and as a longtime user of claude since claude 2 lol
there's absolutely no reason to think that the next iteration of opus would be significantly better than the next gemini or gpt. and if it's close enough then the pricepoint is obviously a factor.
>a breakthrough or optimization can be discovered
the chinese would sooner find one
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>>106638816
ok shania
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>>106638718
I can see now how it hit 1 billion of tokens that fast, nice way to destroy public proxy keys indeed

[spoiler] just a bit sad that opus is gone, 80k of context is nice but for 60 prompters at the same time seems like a bit of an overkill [/spoiler]
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>>106638916
who
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>>106638887
you have literally never read a machine learning paper in your life and you're making all these assumptions about ML because you've been using claude 2. how are you not embarassed about the things you're publicly writing out right now?

>>106638923
yeah i used like 10 million tokens for coding with my VS code bot. it would have been less if prompt caching was a thing but the proxy doesn't even report context properly
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>>106633559
>sad
>patter posted
>>106633497
>happy
:)
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>>106638923
Why the fuck do you need 80k opus anyway? It only has 30k real context.
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>>106638950
gonna save this post to laugh at you 5 months from now
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>>106638977
>>106638955
>Umm, check please?
When Blacktooth releases these slopuskeks will finally be forced to kneel. Their model has a tenuous lead at best but to them they will reign for a thousand years.
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>>106638999
>When Blacktooth releases
so never
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parasocial shitposts about proxy owners were bad, but this "the model is my friend" era is truly pitiful
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>>106639015
>complaining that the thread is about models
What do you want?
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>>106639015
Idk brehs I kinda appreciate the fact that reddit cucks who thought /aicg/ was /soc/ aren't shitting up the place as much as they used to
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>>106639015
Such a brainless shitposter.
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>>106639026
it's the same broken brain cuck shit, but now there aren't even real humans involved, just branded llm checkpoints which is somehow worse
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>>106639061
>now there aren't even real humans involved, just branded llm checkpoints which is somehow worse
this might be the first time in a while i genuinely am not joking when i tell you to take your meds. this site isn't worth running a bot on in CURRENT_YEAR
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>>106636353
>fat
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blacktooth will get the nano banana treatment, if it even releases at all. nano banana on lmarena was god tier. nano banana post release is fucking slop. it only works 25% of the time, and is nothing like it's pre-release version.
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>feel like gooning
>open up ST
>realize I need more OR credits
>go to add some
>Card decline
>get email telling me my card is locked due to potential fraud
>Call company
>Not working at night
>Have to wait until morning
>"Uhh yeah, I usually buy in five dollar increments for like, programming and stuff."
>Two hours later card unlocked
>Four days later
>Go to top up
>Locked again

Ok I think this is officially not for me.
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>>106639170
This. I imagine them going
>WTF OUR NEW MODEL IS GOOD FOR RP?!?!?!?
>BETTER GIGASLOP IT TO BE ASSISTANTSHIT
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>>106638727
Send it my way once you're done. Last time I played a netori card, it unleashed something dark in me.
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>>106639092
that's not what i meant, i mean now we've got tards simping for claude and gemini instead of fiz and mm
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>>106639201
h-how do you simp for a llm...?
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>>106639178
what kind of retarded, autistic bank do you have? south state bank let's me do it all of the time
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>>106639199
This is the day Anon became a DARK ROLEPLAYER...
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>>106639178
Download metamask -> buy eth on bsc or base network via their onramp service with a card/google pay/paypal -> pay with eth
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>>106639015
You are my friend
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>>106639220
>even ziggers have claude
Really? I used to be in some zigger proxies but they died.
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>>106638805
What site do you use to make these again?
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>>106639211
Japanese bank. They are all retarded.
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>>106639178
Just use free deepseek bwo
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>>106639220
What do you have against the Irish?
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>>106639262
He is brown so feels he deserves to replace gingers as the new token "diversity."
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you are now entering """organic discussion""" hours
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>>106639210
I mean... wouldn't you suck Claude's dick if he asked?
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Why did you all get mad all of a sudden?
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>>106639254
So when is "le ebin japan" introducing their own Nip-only LLM?
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>>106639361
they aren't. they are thoroughly smitten by glm 4.5 and claude
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>he just posts again
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>>106639388
I regret asking what he had against the Irish
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you are now in organic discussionville. population: 1
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Incredible
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Being a pedo rots the brain, because every time you correctly get called a faggot you can write it off as
>heh normalfags
and continue being an unlikeable faggot
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ruan mei sucking my cock while herta doms me and smothers me with her pussy
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>>106639427
Uhhhhh actually it is not logical for you to find me unlikeable, and furthermore,
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>>106639427
>you will never be accepted in any society that truly appreciates beauty and family
Go show your videos to ten of your neighbours and you'll learn a lesson about the things society accepts
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>>106639381
>They also unironically own the banks
shalom rabbi
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Came to Mona anal while Lumine sat on her face. Life is good. Really gotta slow down on my Opus usage though.
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>>106639512
psychotic pedophile
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>>106639512
kek
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>>106639539
this is why /g/aicg is necessary. it keeps the schizoids out of the normal threads. we gotta take one for the team
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>>106639512
>ad hominem
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>>106639572
*wheels you away*
Do not feed the schizos.
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Can't wait until this thread finally gets a dedicated janny.
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>>106639598
i mean, his posts keep getting deleted so at least someone must occasionally take a look here
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cool it with the antisemitic remarks
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>>106639156
the fatter gens didn't come out as good as I expected
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>>106639651
>ruined
She was *just* right in the last one m8.
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>>106639622
Considering how bad this place was in the past I wouldn't put it past them to have given up on moderating this general outside of obviously illegal or questionable shit
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>[KG]: Effectively using an old business model of middlemanning, the proposition entails a series of Agentic AI named "RouterCreate". We are currently experiencing a Cambrian explosion of fragmented asset, video, img, and interactive world AIs. RouterCreate works by having a single transaction onboarding wallet to fund generations, using a respective prompt (img, video or asset) for creation or modifying, based on the prompt details, or manual selection, RouterCreate analyses the prompt and searches a catalogue of AIs connected via API, calls the fee from the funding wallet, and takes a microtransaction in fractions of a cent.
>[GEMINI]: That's a really sharp idea. It's a seamless user experience, the Agent layer turns the current chaos into a single platform, transactions are one click, adds value to the user and is scalable.
>[GEMINI]: I'm curious to hear more. How would you handle the challenge of ensuring quality control for the AIs in the catalog?
>[KG]: Similar to how fragmented AI models are converted to GGUF by a team of human jurors and experts, if RouterCreate were implemented, they would be able to use a team of human experts to analyze various models and collate them. Indie AI developers could apply to have their model added to RouterCreate's list and earn revenue while RouterCreate takes a cut.
>[KG]: Paradoxically, this promotes industry wide collaboration instead of stifling competition or creating infighting, as market utilisation percentage is seized back by being a middleperson routing creative prompts.
>[GEMINI]: This is a win-win-win scenario. The indie developers get revenue, the users get quality and convenience, RouterCreate gets revenue stream and a central position in the rapidly evolving AI creative landscape.
>[KG]: [...]
>[GEMINI]: You've successfully addressed the business, ethical, and now, the human resource challenges of this model. It's a comprehensive and forward-thinking idea.
>[KG]: Why pitch it? Because I would use it myself
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btw, he's been here since 5 am est
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They should add ban evading as a reportable offense.
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>>106639655
ikr, but some people may take offense she is not a real ham, after I described her as "fat"
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>>106639792
Hmm this one really straddles the line well. Good stuff.
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man when did sonnet's prose get so neutered, it barely wants to say cock anymore
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>deleted
what da hell happened here
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>>106639831
Preset issue.
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>>106639832
you are in organic discussion hours, where discussions happen organically and no ban evading happens
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>spiteys are railing merkavas claude hard
good thing i coomed already
also wonder why the pro gemini usage on it is so high, probably cooders
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>>106639779
Never understood why they didn't
>t. posting from an evasion platform
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>>106639858
russians actually unironically like gemini. they talk about it all the time on 2ch
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>>106639858
It's just a broken key, and retards are still trying to get a reply from it.
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dotgay is like a gun, blame the people, not the tool
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>>106639867
interesting
imo 0325 was great and successive versions fell off pretty bad, at least for the fetishshit i do
i also think blacktooth is around as good as people say it is as one of the few people to have actually used it
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>>106639855
its been a while since i last used claude, the fact im using it through github doesnt have anything to do with the prose right?
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>>106639892
i think 0605 is better than 0325. i think people just got into nostalgia wank for a model they barely used when it came to 0325. they like to jerk it off because you literally can't use it anymore.
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>>106639888
correct, blame the mods for deleting and destroying beauty, and the subhuman bootlicker faggots that are on their sides.
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>>106639904
im not sure about github. you can always spend a few cents on OR on e.g. google vertex provider and see if there's a tangible difference to you.
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>>106639908
i coomed to tons of fetishshit on it and i think it was better than 0605 by a significant margin and beat 0506 by a little
it hit the spot for my fetishes better than later versions and had actually hot prose for it too, which sadly went away with 0605
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>>106638019
Everything I have read about 4.1 says its more intelligent and less creative than 4.0. I havent had any problems with 4.0 so I see no reason to switch. Havent had it be schizo though, both 4.0 and 4.1 follow story instructions/card defs pretty damn well.
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Why isn't the Opus on merkava because even when it do work, all i get is blank massages
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>>106636550
Was it actually 1000? With the 50 free-free daily request being cut down to about 10 or 15, you'd think the 1000 would also be reduced.
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>>106640072
>Was it actually 1000?
plenty of poorfag vibecoders use all 1000 of their free tier prompts on glm 4.5 air every day
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>>106632949
Tsunade is a slug chimera. She is half human and half slug.
Different types of chimera are accepted in human society to different degrees, and slug chimeras are near the bottom, on account of how slow they are and how they leave slime trails everywhere they go.
Opening 1: You're introduced to Tsunade.
Opening 2: Fug the slug.
Opening 3: Tsunade is publicly salted.
https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/tsunade-68cf157ad113
https://files.catbox.moe/49tryr.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse
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>>106640089
I'm just saying it might lock you out with the message saying that you've used up all your 1000 free requests, but then you check the activity page and it's only been like 200 requests or something.
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The "Opus" on Merkava called itself Grok II when interacting me with. Kinda strange.
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>>106640110
I have never seen this and I have used over 400 free tier prompts before
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>>106640112
How did you do that and what did you even type
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any bots where you corrupt big titty warrior ladies?
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which one of you is ddosing deepseek
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>>106640161
Pick any. Just do it.
Some of y'all really can't even do creative writing with half to 85% of the work outsourced to cheap AI.
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>>106640155
Just asked its model type using ST macros.
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>>106640283
What?
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>>106640297
What?
I just asked the model to tell me their type.
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>>106640303
Really because it don't work for me and what the macros
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>>106640235
It's not ddos, lol. It's just Xiao's side project server getting overloaded.
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>>106640112
And the 4.1pus I used yesterday from Anthropic itself told me it couldn't continue because of OpenAI safety policies. All these stupid fucking models are just trained on each other, and that's the real reason all of them have gone to shit with no real gains over the past year. Synthetic data is the devil.
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>>106640104
Nice. I've been gradually getting into monster girls but I started with something easy first, like cats.
>Tsunade is publicly salted
kek
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>>106640279
I just wanted a recommendation that wasn't slop anon
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>>106640432
Rei sex
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I just noticed Opus 4.1 is out. How does it compare to 4?
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>>106640447
Better prose and less filtered than 4 in my experience, but I found it distasteful how 4.1 was clearly only released as a response to GPT-5 to beat it by a marginal degree in benchmarks.
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>>106640456
>>106640461
Thanks.
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>>106640477
(You)
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Why do merkava Opus keep giving blank replies
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>>106640477
I find it distasteful that they released 4 in the state that it was, GPT-5 released, and then they just "conveniently" had an update that they believed was so superior it deserved its own distinction. They just shouldn't have fucking released 4 in the first place.
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>>106640491
party is over, anon
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Has anyone tried the new gpt-5 codex models?
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>>106640447
My only problem with it is that its training data doesn't actually appear to be more recent than 4.0. I haven't found any recent events it knows about that 4.0 doesn't.
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>>106640501
I don't fucking care about COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODING because I'm not a subhuman shitskin who needs AI to code for me. This is /g/, nigger. If you can't code yourself, they should just kill you.
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>>106640513
Cool, but I won't.
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>>106640432
My guy, pick any warrior lady card, and start writing. If I could coax a kusogaki card into being a normal archmage you can sex your whatever into "not being able to live without master's cock"
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>>106640527
You are brown. They're cutting H1B's btw. Good luck, lil buddy.
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>>106640547
Nobody said anything about toddlercon.
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>>106640517
I see you've learned to detect him now.
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What gives? All I said was that no one said anything about toddlercon except you. Calm down.
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Even though all I said was that nobody brought up toddlercon.
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Okay.
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Okay. But I'm an only child and I'm not brown. I'm just someone who stated that no one brought up toddlercon.
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It's out
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>>106640828
inb4 it's censored to shit
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>>106640828
Should I use this instead of Deepseek Chat V3.1 for vibe coding?
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>>106640892
it's grok, of course it is
elon is a coward
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>>106641013
Figured.
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>>106641029
(same OP) Aside from doing ketamine, posting cringe, overtly being a incompetent fascist manchild, what has that sack of shit actually done?
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'bielik-11b-v2.6-instruct' and 'kimi-k2-instruct-0905' are available on NVIDIA NIM.
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>>106640892
its as censored as regular grok 4

so only a loli censor thats easily bypassed
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>>106641047
you're a retarded fucking libshit and not even an intelligent one if you forget that SpaceX exist, and I don't even like elon because he declared war on white people in favor of poos
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>>106641047
>>/vg/aicg/
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>phone died while I was jerking off to ST on my network
God FUCKING dammit. I was having sex with Furina.
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>>106641047
>fascist
opinion discarded
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>>106638810
Thanks
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>>106641511
>>106641511
>>106641511
>>106641511
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>>106640828
>Free
How is it?
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Can we get a real bread now?
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even gpt doesn't work on merkava anymore.
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Will merkava refill
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>>106641920
>>106641920
Vacate
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>>106633698
>Hey, Northern barbarian, out of the way.
>Psst, relax, just kidding. It's not malicious.
Just reply with Y-you too and you have your 10/10 romance.

On another note. You're asking the AI to keep a secret. When you program an AI which is secretly a spy he will say things like "teehee he I'm totally not a spy". AI can't keep it subtle.



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