useless OP editionPrevious >>106576153>here's a wikihttps://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Home_server>here's a linkCool stuff to host: https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted>not posting those useless spreadsheetsRemember: RAID is not a backup.
owning a home server won't fill the void in your heart your larping as enterprise at home is cringe. it's a pure cope when you're wasting your lifebaway
>>106640308no. unifi bullshit and a minipc is not larping as an enterprise. it's character acting as a retarded person.
>>106640308No enterprise would dare run this shit.
I want to migrate my vps and all its shit to my home server because I need moar space and power but renting more would be too costly. I want to keep the cheapest vps to act as a reverse proxy/vpn to connect to my home server. I asked ai for instructions and I'm pretty sure I can do it but not sure if I should do it in a certain order. Should I setup the vps then my home server or the other way around? Or does it not matter and I'm just retarded?Also I was planning to do the home server with Yunohost because I used it last time and it appears to have all I need with easy-ish installs does it require any fuckery to work on Lan and Wan? Should I use the yunohost image or install over Debian for more flexibility?
>>106640308>it's a pure cope when you're wasting your lifebaway>she says posting kitters on the chans
>>106640474depends on what you need running at the time of migration, otherwise doesn't matter just do it. no idea about your os, entirely depends on what you want done for you and what you want to do yourself.
>planning rackmount chassis>intending to use used/refurbished drives for cheap storage>don't want to have to take the case apart when one dies so want hot swap bays>all cases I can find are either 0 hot swap bays, 2.5" bays, 10+ bays, or ridiculously overpriced and oversized for home useWhy can't I find a simple 2u case with two-four front 3.5" hot swap bays?
>>106641183make your own? A 3d printer isn't that expensive.
>>106641252Thanks for pointing that out. I've got an Ender 3 pro but I suck at modeling. Didn't occur to me to check online for models other people have posted for free, looking through them now.
>>106640308Its fun and is useful in a lot of ways.Though I get to work on this sort of shit for a living so its different for me.
>>106640308uhh it's gotta run my software all the time not be a religion or whatever
>>106641425if you get too deep into the weeds, you'll eventually start printing your own 10" rack, which is fun too.
looking at redoing my matrix-synapse server since it's extremely old and patched to hell. has anyone tried Tuwunel? or should I just stick with the default server?
>>106641183Might be hard to find in a 2u case with the needed 5.25 bays, but there are always 5.25 to hotswap bays.Terribly inefficient on space though until you get up to at least 2x5.25 bay height versions.
>NAS motherboard with integrated ASM1166+ASM1164 (2 SFF-8643 on-board connectors)Would that be a good idea for TrueNAS?
>>106644451People here will seethe if you aren't running a 25W+ HBA to connect 2 drives so no that's not a great choice
Has anyone had any experience with the cheap x540-t4 silicom nics floating around on ebay? If I put them them in my windows pc, can I use it in lieu of a switch? Can't find any 10 gigabit switches for under 100. I just need to be able to move big files fast between my other pcs, which only have single 10g ports
>>106641183>or ridiculously overpriced and oversized for home useyou mean RM22-308?
>>106645246Is their seethe justified? Are these ASMedia chips really that bad?
>>106645637>If I put them them in my windows pc, can I use it in lieu of a switch?As-is no, there is no switching logic in the hardware. You'd have to configure forwarding/bridging in your OS.>>106645937ASMedia chips have been plagued by shoddy firmware in the past, and you never know what firmware will come with a purchase today, but they've been mostly reliable in recent years. They're not bad, and they actually support power management unlike the server hardware.
>>106644451what board are you looking at?>>106645937if you're going to use a host bus adapter then you want a reliable SAS HBA. historically anything else has been cheap shit
>>106646052>what board are you looking at?This one from CWWK. Not sure if it has a proper name, listed as "9-port NAS motherboard with [CPU model]"It has one SATA port + SFF-8643 running off ASM1166 and another SFF-8643 running off ASM1164.
>>106646052>historicallyUnlike your abandoned SAS controllers, there are actual firmware updates for the ASMedia chips.No, I will not forget how LSI cucked its customers by REMOVING TRIM support in firmware back when they were selling SAS2008/2308 so they could push it as a selling point for their new, more expensive controllers. Fuck LSI and fuck broadcom.
>>106646149reminds me of some shitty chink board with no firmware updates and poor thermals.>>106646160you need firmware to trim in IT mode? pretty sure your software raid would handle that. nobody uses hardware raid anymore.
>>106646415>you need firmware to trim in IT mode?No, the firmware BLOCKS it after a certain version. And you can't really go back because there's a lot of fixes in later versions.
>>106646160>fuck broadcombased
>>106646149>i226-Vworried laughter
>>106646790All of these boards use intel 2.5G NICs, I have yet to see one with Realtek.
>>106646790what's the problem with the i226-V?
Thoughts on used Arubas? Even with the extra cost of a poe injector and mounting brackets a 505 would still be cheaper than the cheapest wifi 6 tp-link.
>>106646885How much? A wifi 7 GWN7670 is like 100 bucks
>>106646900Like $40
>>106646729I wish I could test this since it sounds like complete bullshit but I don't use SSDs in my LSI HBA array in IT mode.HBA in IT mode shouldn't interfere with a device's trim. that makes no sense.
>>106647024Later HBAs like the SAS3000 series support TRIM only for SSDs that declare support for deterministic read zero after TRIM. All other SSDs, and that's most consumer SSDs, are shit out of luck.https://www.broadcom.com/support/knowledgebase/1211161496937/trim-and-sgunmap-support-for-lsi-hbas-and-raid-controllersSAS2008/2308 owners are fucked thanks to a firmware change. The old old firmware allowed TRIM on anything that supported it.
>just want to store some files>all HDDs suck>all OSs suck>all motherboards suck>all cases suck>SATA controllers suck>HBAs suck too>Realtec NICs suck>Intel NICs suck too>all NICs suckI want to get off Mr. Bones Wild Ride.
>>106647125Ignorance is bliss unironicllyConsumer shit is made for Windows and NTFS that doesn't give a shit about a bad behaving SATA controller. Only saving grace is the drive knows it's receiving garbage from CRC checks and asks politely for a retransmissionIronically I want to trust the consumer shit but half the time they don't even make a good value proposition.
>>106640308If you look up the word projection in a dictionary there's just a picture of this post.
>>106647125>all HDDs suckHigh capacity (18-20TB+) HDDs are fine regardless of the manufacturer.>all OSs suckTrue.>all motherboards suckANUS is okay (just pray you don't have to contact support) and SM is pretty great. ASSRock sadly completely fucking sucks. I've seen multiple AM4/5 socket rack series boards arrive DOA or die within weeks and it seems to be a common enough issue that others have posted about it before.>all cases suckTrue that's why you just buy the cheapest 19" rackmount that fits your needs and forget about it.>SATA controllers suck>HBAs suck tooThey get hot as fuck but other than that I've never had issues with one before, despite me flashing some fucked up firmware mods on some cards.>all NICs suckConsumer tier yes but 10G intel NICs have become dirt cheap used and those are idiot proof.
>>106646876Not him, but for me I skipped it because it doesn't support SR-IOV and I'm going to virtualise a router. Power usage is really nice though.
>>106647077yes I found that same page and the first fucking thing it says:>HBA that are flashed to IT firmware support TRIM.the remainder of that broadcom KB is about devices not in IT mode.And then I found a redhat article about it too, saying that in order to TRIM on your RAID devices you need to put them in "JBOD" mode (which isn't even IT mode?) instead of RAID0 mode, and that any other RAID mode wouldn't even let you see the disks individually.https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/trim-discard-ssdsI think people have misunderstood the trim problem and it's not applicable, but again... I can't test and I can't confirm from searching.
>>106647237You replied to it because you feel insecure about it.I'm sorry, but he got you.
>>106647362Guess the next iteration is going to have to print a second screenshot under the first one.
>>106647319>the first fucking thing it says:>the remainder of that broadcom KB is about devices not in IT mode.Maybe you should read further instead of being a headline-reader:>LSI SAS HBAs with IR firmware do not support TRIM.>LSI SAS HBAs with IT firmware do support TRIM, but with these limitations:>The drives must support both “Data Set Management TRIM supported (limit 8 blocks)” and “Deterministic read ZEROs after TRIM” in their ATA options.This does not apply to classic HBAs like the 9211 or 9207, which USED TO allow (unsupported) TRIM with early firmware but were patched not to. I have a 9207-8i and used to have a 9211-8i, TRIM doesn't work. I don't remember the exact version that disabled it.
>>106647125>all NICs suckConnectX-3 is god tier
What's cheaper: Old PC with a bunch of mid-2000s 10G NICs pretending to be a switch, or an actual 10G switch?
>>106647521I bought an 8 port 10G SFP+ switch for ~150€, I couldn't get a PC with enough PCIe lanes to feed 4 dual port 10G NICs for that money.
>>106647125they sell services for a monthly fee for people just like you
>>106647125Realtek is ok for normal use if you don't get one of the known bad ones
>>106647125the trick is to get stuff that sucks less.
what should I do with my old m1 macbook air? any niggas here run one as a server? New update now allows disk decryption after boot with ssh
>>106648302comfy bedside shitposting laptop
>>106648319i upgrade to Tahoe and it's not very comfy, previewing in finder my frog folder drops frames
>>106648368Downgrade to whatever it came withOS upgrades are scams manufacturers use to force obsolence and it baffles me that people see it as a selling point.
>>106647417so what's the preferred and recommended FW to use?
>>106641547Homelabbing got me into DevOps and I make good money. Not a waste of time.
>>106648500On the LSI cards? The latest. You don't really have a choice, there are serious data loss inducing bugs fixed after TRIM was artificially disabled.
>>106648500just don't use those specific cards with SSDs
>>106639767Why is the 2019 Nvidia Shield still considered the best option for home cinema streaming? How has technology stagnated this badly?
>>106649230because you're retarded
Glad I didn't listen to you guys. Bought myself a Ubiquiti Dream Machine SE and it ticks all my boxes. Totally worth the money.
>>106649230The only streaming device more powerful than it is the apple tv
>>106649235AI seems to agree.You added fuck all to the conversation.
>>106649321I would consider the Apple but I quite like having DTS.I just think it's pretty shit that there isn't another option since 2019.
>>106649230what do you mean? Can't you just plug a computer into the tv?
is a dell 560 with an Xeon 6240 and 96gb of ram for ~300usd a good deal? it also comes with some sas drives and a mirrored ssd boot drives.it's 1u though.
>>106649434My computer is in another part of the house. The point of the streaming box is so I can stream shit from my Plex server to my AV receiver and the 2019 Shield is the only device I know of that can do Dolby Vision, Atmos and DTS.Six years later and it's still the only device that can do all three.
>>106649581I suppose not much has changed since 2019. not like we're doing 8k or any new proprietary encrypted hdmi bullshit now. I also suspect nobody cares since it's pretty niche.I have a mini-pc plugged in to my TV and it works fine, I don't think kodi is tonemapping the DV or anything, though I wouldn't be surprised since it's running linux that some proprietary license isn't working.
>>106649581no one wants to pay for licensing for meme media formats that no one uses.
>>106649687Go back to watching movies on your phone, poorfag.
>>106649619If you have a device that can do 4k HDR10, you're pretty much set for the next 20 years.That's the new standard and lowest common denominator for 4K BDs.
>>106647024>HBA in IT mode shouldn't interfere with a device's trim. that makes no sense.It makes perfect sense once you realize these cards are all-software (the firmware is a small embedded OS) running on a repurposed old PowerPC desktop CPU design from the iMac era. That's also why they burn 10+W continuously and have no power management.
cheap server box for jellyfin and old console emulation gaming that i could stream to my living room tv?
>>106641183Just get the $400 10+ hot swap bay rackmount. In a few years when you want to upgrade(you will) you won't have a useless chassis that's too small
>>106644451Personally I try to avoid motherboards with extra non-standard baked in features like this. I trust the 10gbe nic they will add to the board but I won't trust anything that isn't done by every other brand.
>>106647521An actual switch
>>106649230Dolby vision, dtx and advanced surround sound and other things you would only care about if you're watching movies or tv shows. It's ridiculous and I am always looking at the market every month for a better solution.
>>106649272They're nice, the only downside is when you want to do something niche that you can do on very customizable router OS' like openwrt and find out you can't or that it's limited. Overall for a stable home router/network it's fine for 99% of people
>>106651718>non-standardWhat about onboard AHCI controllers and SFF-8643 is non-standard?
>>106651778I think I misread your post my bad
>>106640308it helped me learn a ton about linux and is very nice when i want to view my media on lan
>>106651765The fact that Nvidia hasn't even bothered to do a refresh of the Shield is insane to me, like they're just not bothered about innovating at all.
>>106652139What's insane is them bothering to do anything beside AI at all.
>>106650631Sure, why not?
