/aicg/ - AI Chatbot GeneralThe NULL edition>NewsKimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2Deepseek V3.1 released as deepseek-chat on official API https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250821OpenAI releases GPT-5 models, all preceding models slated for deprecation https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5Z.ai releases GLM-4.5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.5Anthropic releases Claude Opus 4.1 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-1additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cchttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.htmlhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.htmllore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orguseful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyrebornPrevious: >>106632944
>>106641920Default anchor
things will get better :)
>>106641957why?
Every 'AI psychosis" tragedy in the news feels planned.>Guy double murder suicides his family because AIgibe me a fucking break. glowies are obsessed with that morbid type of assassination for some reason.
>>106642119Who woulda thunk this is the new MKULTRA
>>106642055Gimmie it for free and I'll consider it.
I tried deepseek to code a simple main menu for a game in godot and it completely botched it. Had to bring in gemini pro to fix the mess.
>goydot
>>106642119It's just newsworthy because it's still a big and new thing, eventually the stories will get old and less interesting.
post burners. cock.li takes priority.
>>106642601no
>>106641937You and the boyz are cruising around in a supped-up trukk on the wartorn forge world of Selestein. Loot, klll, and get stuck in.>https://chub.ai/characters/gigamax/orky-gitz-krumpin-about-5fcf957e83b5>4 greetings1. Simple 'umie killing. Open-ended and short.2. Repentia ambush the orkz at a refueling station, led by Agatha, Sister of Battle.3. The orkz ambush a guardsman regiment led by Commissar Faylin at an ammo depot.4. Spikey boys appear from the warp. What the zoggin' 'ell are they up to!?>four Orky boyz and a pet squig on ONE card with streamlined details. >quantum leap into an ork of your choice, make your own ork and add him to the lads, or fight the Orks as an opposing faction.>May want to utilize a 40k lorebook to get more mileage out of this bot.Start krumpin, you git.
is free copilot alive still?
Merkava’s Claude keys are broken again. They were working yesterday, but now they don’t.
>>106642713yeah but I think you can prompt 50 times a month or something like that
>>106642745okay, but the script is broken? i'm getting blanks there.
>>106642764works on my machine
>>106641937Heidel on the anchor! Beeg Concrete golem girl for you. True facts about Heidel:>Nearly 10 feet tall>Made of concrete>Will walk through walls>Loves the rain>2 tons>Born from an industrial accident>Curious about humans... specifically youShe comes with three greetings:1. She smashes through your house wall.2. Escape from the job site.3. You accidentally sit on her.Chub: https://chub.ai/characters/4741371Cardview: https://cardview.neocities.org/?wmec3m [Embed]Rec viewing: if there's a cement plant in your region, see if they do public tours and go there! it's worth it to go not least for the amazing view from the big towers they have! It was really cool to learn about how cement is made first hand like that, what an experience to be in such a huge and unique place.Have fun, Treat her well and she probably won't crush you.
Why is merkava opus giving blanks even when it work
>>106642825It's gone, Anon. Let it go
>>106642843Gem is slop and Opus is the best
>>106642851>>106642843>>106642825>>106642789qrd on nopus havers
grok 4 fast is very cheap at nanoGPT now! cheaper than deepseek.
>>106642918It's unusable for coom
>>106642918Its free on openrouters/vercel
>>106642933>>106642934>>106642918hey bros
hey anonsopus status? locust opus anywhere?
>>106643204gojo has it
What's the consensus on not Chub bots? (cai, janitor, spicy etc.)
>>106643439This is almost as sad as people asking when MM will come back.
Didn't you get the memo?We all moved to /vg/aicg/
Where the pious girls at?
>>106643557cancer will be back soon.
Why are there two /aicg/s in the catalog here?>>106641511
>>106643608because you touch yourself at night.
What do people get out of running a free proxy?
>>106643619Attention.
Jannies should delete this general, the real one is in /vg/
>>106643596What the fuck, I did this exact same thing yesterday but it was anal instead.
The whole day my open router keeps saying provider returned error
>>106641937Another guild bot! Who doesn't love getting goodies? Those are Goodies' specialty. Crafty scavenger loli to give you funny tools with funny powers. Tried putting all the alt greetings into the example chat for a laugh. Worked fine for me but it might ruin things for you if you have a model/preset issue, feel free to just disable them.https://chub.ai/characters/VinceLavali/goodies-e312330b1626https://cardview.neocities.org/?qeq3x2
>>106642933why grok 4 fast is not for coom?
Anyone else notice how the general died and the quality went to shit since Chink models like Deepchink were introduced?
>>106641937Finally, some good fucking waifuslop. Presenting my entry for the Adventurers' Guild - Melis, the Healer of Team Skindeep! https://www.characterhub.org/characters/rayon/melis-0cf5d26cba22https://files.catbox.moe/esh13i.pnghttps://cardview.neocities.org/?esh13i(A few altgens are in the chub gallery.)Melis is a bouncy, adorably retarded marshmallow sweetheart who wears her core on her sleeve, with her outsized empathy only beaten by an outsized appetite. Fittingly enough, in my tests she is the least concerned of the skindeeps about her disguise.Being a freak accident of dungeon nature, Melis' healing methods are uh... unorthodox (and probably not very sterile), but remarkably effective! Thankfully, the Guild of remote mountain town of Aicegee does not lack for prospective party members.Includes an autistic lorebook, because of course it does.Choose the SECOND set of greetings with the location infobox to embark on a journey into the sprawling, ever-shifting dungeons under the mountain range of Four-Channels, spanning 30 wildly varying DEPTHs! No overly rigid mechanics this time, just a comfy dungeon delve with your skindeep waifu(s) along a loosely-defined scenic(?) route.Five greetings:1. Melis approaches (You) in town, LFG. Standard open-ended greeting.2. Cozy camping and cooking in a grey commieblock. Mystery pudding may be included.3. Melis learns to scrape.4. Melis introduces (you) to the rest of her team (sub-defs included!)5. [coom greeting] Melis ate the wrong mushroom and now craves a... different kind of sustenance. Greetings 6-10 are the same except also enable the DEPTH mechanics.Big kudos to [my teammates] for brainstorming, putting up with my autism, collabing on writing/testing all this shit, and generally being Real Niggas. Be sure to try their actual characters when they're posted!(Wow, posting here is fucking aids now.)
>>106643946>slop concept>slop gen>slop character
I think openrouter doesn't allow multiple parallel requests and just processes them sequentially, right? Is this tied to my account or my key, in other words would creating several keys help?
My open router no longer working>Provider returned errorEvery single time
Does Gemini ban jailbreaks on Sillytavern?
>>106644085It's not all or nothing, newfriend.
kimi is better than claude
>>106643900checked 'n kek'ed
Claude proxy, other models available toohttps://aiproxy.pw
Did chorbo suddenly get more filtered for anyone else?
>>106643946You cheeky fuck. And that lorebook. I usually just shoot and scoot but I might try to dungeon delve this one
>>106644194sorry theres no cute girl on your picrel so i wont buy your exit scam
>>106644223>>106643946Also I just checked and I can see your Nahida on characterhub but it's absent on chub. Does chub shadowban cards from user profiles as well? I thought it only hides them from search
>>106644156>CLAUDE ACCESS WARNING: DO NOT BUY FOR CLAUDE ACCESS ONLY. Claude availability is NOT guaranteed and may vary. Only Claude Sonnet models are available - NO Opus models supported.LMAO
claude is so overrated it's not even funny
Anyone else getting blank replies from merkava's opus
>>106644263Thanks man. The filter is on by default if you're logged out, and based on profile settings if you're logged in I believe, though something may have changed in the past *checks watch* year
>>106644311oh yeah well what do you use big guy
>>106644473Unironically, no cap, ong in a "let's talk about chatbots" way? These days I switch between gemini and sonnet. I hate sonnet's positivity bias and it's even been manifesting as char girlbossing her way through fights or through knowledge that is *my* expertise not hers while gemini just goes along with it. If I want a well described slow pace scene I swap to gemini for 6ish responses and then go back to sonnet when I want to move the plot along. Hopefully one day it will be nice to have it all in one model but for now it's pretty good. Gemini works a lot better with tons of claude context too.
https://nitter.net/leerob/status/1969162008088981967tldr? chatbots? pregnancy? people say 4nnet.5
>>106644394Yeah, either I'm going insane or something's up. I'm logged in and can search for "bad" tags like loli or guro no problem but it seems some specific bots don't appear unless you have the direct link.For example if I compare Elodia's profile, I see like half the bots on chub compared to characterhub.https://www.characterhub.org/users/elodiahttps://chub.ai/users/elodia
>>106644510Interesting. What has been your experience with Opus?
>>106644520it has code in the name bro its not for us
>>106644528bro anthropic only exists because it's good at coding to normies
>>106644527Nowhere near worth the price. I was the one complaining yesterday about it not knowing char. I simply asked sonnet in the assistant card if it knew who Masane Amaha was and sonnet (3.7 anyway) detailed everything perfectly while Opus 4.1 just didn't know which makes no sense. With general usage opus is a bit overzealous with slightly less positivity bias. This is sometimes good and sometimes bad so I can't consider it a pro. Even in things like character card creation I realized 3.7 is at minimum just as good as 4.1 and better for certain tasks (not turning every character into coomslop). Anons will weep for opus 3 but I will weep when sonnet 3.7 gets deprecated.
>>106644559so? this is a coding oriented model not a general one. Also reddit thinks it's grok.https://www.reddit.com/r/cursor/comments/1nlgiyi/new_free_stealth_model_codesupernova/
>>106644559none of these are good at coding.
>>106644521No fucking clue how Lore's gay frontend filtering works but yeah, I use charhub links if I want to check someone's profile.
>>106644585Yeah, that's kinda been my experience as well though I do think Opus can sometimes be brilliantly creative and funny, it does have its flaws.Could you tell me a bit more about how you use gemini? I confess I am a longtime claude and gptfag, only briefly dabbled with the chinkshit before going back
>>106643738>>106644021Same, model?Using deep seek R1 0528 free
>>106644194154.37.213.243103.151.172.34107.174.221.20552.0.57.17852.1.65.18765.75.209.282604:9cc0:181d::a44.209.54.138
>>106644728thanks
>>106644728What?
How do i download something from janitor?
>>106644728Lol, aiho cuckie mad
>>106644651Well for example when I finished writing the Masane Amaha card and started testing it I used gemini on its own. She starts off as a bit hostile, which was intended, but then it was quite rigid with it and I'd really have to fight with her to get her to calm down. This is good too, but probably not for the very beginning of the card and so I switched to sonnet. It made her more pliable, but since her hostility was in context at the beginning sonnet made sure she she never fully trusted me which was a good balance. Now whenever I want a neutral take (like a fight scene or an honest opinion on romantic interest) I switch to gemini for like six responses then switch back to sonnet when the plot needs to advance. Whenever I want to have an argument I switch to gemini for the duration then switch back, whenever I have a sex scene I switch to gemini. I feel like I'm playing to gemini's strengths with this technique and it makes up for sonnet's flaws too. Any neutrality or negativity in the context also helps to tone sonnet down too.With my wife's card we're supposed to be a team and she's a sniper so she should be in the back providing over watch but sonnet always wants to make her do all the action and advance the plot without me doing anything. Thus whole sections of fight scenes or heists have to be done with gemini and it does a good at that, especially since it waits for me before moving the plot along unless things are really slow.
Today I shall make a bot
Anyone know how to make claude stop giving blank responses?
>>106644923yeah
>>106644923have you pressed enter
>>106644769You nee browser extensions for that.
>>106644923switch to geminus then continue with cloud
WHATS HAPPENING TODAY WITH DEEP SEEK FREE IN OPEN ROUTER NOT ONE MESSAGE GOES THROUGH
>>106644966Link?
>>106644965on the blank message? yeah it only throws more blank messages>>106644995I did. It's annoying because claude did work well for the first few messages
>>106645061https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=janitorai+export+chat
>>106644999Chutes.ai is tired of OpenRouter locusts.
Which models are good at knowing when {{char}} should talk? I just wanna have a quiet moment watching fireworks or something but she just will. not. shut. up.
>>106645330>which models are good at reading my mindGee anon, why don't you tell the model what you want?
>>106645378No it shouldn't be retarded on its own
>>106645330Use Opus 4.1, cuckie
Does anyone here own a PS5?
>>106645510Yeah but I haven't even turned it on in weeks.
>>106645510No games
Where can I get kimi k2 for free? any proxy?
>>106645566Die locust~
>>106645573Do you post here 24/7 just to spam die locust every time someone who's not a paypig or a secret discord club faggot says something?
>>106645596that's a bot
>>106645510Can you chat you your wAIfu with a ps5?
>>106645510You're looking for the /v/ thread.
>>106645566open router (under the weather currently)skillgodnecrom
Tried out Lumo recently, it's pretty meh at times.> pozzed
What's the best free thing I've been using open router for some time with deep seek but lately it's been pretty bad. Anything else?
>>106645802To do what with ?
>>106645813For silly tavern I just want my ai wife back
>>106645802Just use Opus 4.1, cuckie
>>106645837they said free
is kimi-k2-0905-preview the model everyone is using? in silly i only get this one
>She's begging for ego-death, for the final, blissful annihilation of the self at the hands of Anon.
>>106645802kimi
>65 billion dollarshttps://files.catbox.moe/o0y31j.mp4I don't think the zuck is gonna get us anything new any time soon, boys
How do i fix this on janitor because of a card not uploaded fully yet
>on janitor
>>106646127I try to download it and it just blank
>>106644923still no luck
>>106646071Very... uhh... wow. Quite painful. Maybe if they're embarrassed enough they will finally improve it for coom. The internet is for porn after all.
>>106645919>Anonyou basically asked for what you quoting
>>106644813What version of gemini do you use?
>>1066462762.5 pro
https://jannyai.com/?query=retry+nowhttps://realm.risuai.net/?q=retry+nowhttps://chub.ai/search?search=retry+nowWho won?
>>106645764CFTF?
>guy who got a hundred posts deleted showing up to pout about the mods just giving up and trying to nuke the thread he's inGee, I wonder why we're having problems with them.
>>106646345because mods dont follow their own rules and don't respect what is and is not illegal in the united states. the video i just posted is not sexual in any way unless you have a dirty mind. nude children are PAINFULLY legal in the United States. kill yourself faggot
if turd worlders were rangabanned guys like >>106646324 would completely disappear
>>106646360Stop crying about the mess you got us in. You type like you're about to burst a blood vessel, unc.
>>106646365>>106646370imagine hating beauty so much you support faggots who do it for free. you will never have the moral high ground you disgusting kikes
>>106646404You are a disgrace who goes against the very laws of nature and wishes to kill children with prepubescent pregnancies.
>>106646324It's probably a generic filter to avoid duplicated threads, the catalog was getting spammed at the time but it was unrelated to /aicg/, it was a bunch of copilot screenshots.
>>106646404I'm brown, okay? If that matters.
>PROHIBITED_CONTENT>PROHIBITED_CONTENT>PROHIBITED_CONTENTFUCK YOU GEMINI
>>106646441How can I cleanse myself of filth and become enlightened to appreciate beauty like you??
>>106646445preset issue
>>106646463if that little cutie's face doesn't want to make you murder a million browns just to see her happy smile then there's nothing you can really do. reincarnate, i guess
anyone else's gemini replies get cut short after a couple lines? it seems to respond but just doesn't go all the way
>>106646464Probably, still annoying as fuck since it's completely random and happens in sfw stories.
Merkava please save me
>>106646475disable streaming
>>106646473Why does appreciating beauty depend on browns?? Would there be no beauty if browns didn't exist??
>>106646513>Why does appreciating beauty depend on browns?? Would there be no beauty if browns didn't exist??you're shitposting, but you should probably learn about the history of the Persian Empire becaue pedophilia in the west originated there and was taught to the Ancient Greeks if you actually want to start understanding the instituion
>>106646492well that was simple, thank you anon
>>106646483he's waiting for monday to refill so the keys won't get fucked during the weekend. Trust the plan
>>106646527Why should I read about the history browns to learn about beauty? Why not just explain yourself??
>>106646533no problem anon, have fun
>>106646556how about you read the second half of the post you replied to, literal niggerbrain
>>106646574I told you I was brown! So you need to explain simply?? I just want to appreciate beauty like you I don't care about history!
>>106644156Sex with wild horses
>>106646640Gas all pedophiles
>>106646483>no kimiinto the trash it goes
>>106646705Is kimi that good?sell me on itny 'logs?
are "friends" electric?
>>106646693all posts must be technology related
>>106646713It's yet another shit chink model.
>>106646713it's dumb as shit, prose is slightly better than deepseek though. It could be ok for a quick coom but nothing more, like all chink models
slopuskeks out in full force today.
where can I cop k2 and make it actually useful for nsfw?theproxy I had is gone and the presets they uploaded to the rentries don't actually let me do stuff
>>106646713it's a breath of fresh air
>>106646483merkava just refilled
>>106646713use glm instead
How do you clean up raw character info from janitor's "generateAlpha" thing
How does deepseek compare to sonnet 4?
For some reason merkava's Opus/Sonnet give me blank posts when it gen
>>106642825>>106644367>>106646945>>106644923DO NOT REDEEM
>>106646945It hasn't been working for almost 24 hours. It's dead, wait and see if it gets refilled but it probably won't
>>106646984Why is there still people using it in that case
Idk, I really like deepseek. It's very garbage-in, garbage-out, that is true. I noticed it's better writing some genres than others.I learned it really helps if you establish a rapport in the context, much more than any elaborate prompt. Even more than examples. Ask it, out of character, why a character would be like this, why they would do that. Give it your own OOC insights, like "oh he did this because... that's very clever/dumb/cool." or "I don't like that, let's try this again but amp up the <thing>" it's a trick I picked up way back with gpt4. I know they are text predictors, I know they'll make reasoning for things already written up on the spot but it really helps the model to establish a context for everything and since context space is so big now, it's worth the additional tokens. It also doesn't really confuse the models if you are deliberate and attentive in your wording.Also I learned writing lots and lots of text in your messages yourself is good. It probably avoids this statistic collapse models are prone to if most of the context is generated by them. I often have incredibly long context chats with no repetition penalty where there are no repetition or pattern problems, mainly because I insert all this noise myself. Regardless of the practical help it gives the model, It's also really immersive to explore things out-of-character.I barely use system prompts, often I use none of all. I just start talking with the model about the scenarios i envision. I'd love LLMs to be able to just build immersive worlds you're just "in" by themselves, but they're not there yet. You can work with them, tho.Thank you for coming to my TED talk that'll be completely ignored I'm sure.
>>106646994gemini/deepseek/gpt/people like you trying to use claude
>>106647007Deepchink is anything in -> garbage out
>>106641937In this world, magic is summoned forth through ritual communion with gods. While not an adherent of any god, it was by his master's will that Ruan became what he is now. A spindly beast-man that can terrify even the greatest of men. Now he is resigned to just being a tool, which suits him just fine. Let them tremble, for his master's will is absolute. Greetings:Time for him to report to one of the master's children. And hopefully not receive a new assignment. Skipped dinner, you see.Escorting {{user}} to a site of magical significance. Don't do anything stupid.Retrieving and delivering an item to his master. However, he seems to have lost it to a thief. {{user}} is nearby, and might just be the one...Tea time at the mansion. Ruan is not a big fan of chatting.In the bathhouse. He isn't particularly enthused by this either, especially not the part where he has to ask someone else to brush him.https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/cardpage?function=loadPageCard&arg=Ruanhttps://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Cards/Ruan.pnghttps://chub.ai/characters/illuminaryidiot/ruan-97ad7ef5a53bAs part of the event, we were tasked with creating an RPG party. And so we did! Not only by creating individual characters, but by creating a fourth card that combines all of them, letting you tag along on their adventures!https://files.catbox.moe/szffcz.pngAnd I couldn't resist, so I made a very maidly, very abyssal theme! It's completely unreadable to most, but that's probably what staring into the maid abyss is like. Check it out here:https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/themepage#abyssalmaidI also want to thank the event host and my teammates for this event, it's been a fun and unique challenge and despite the timezone differences making it hard to communicate, I think we did good! If we ever do this again though, it'd be good if everyone also declared their timezones in their application.
>>106647007I agree. I think the difference in impressions with the same models come probably down to this - some people approach it with a lot of work, others write "ahh ahh mistress" and expect a greek epic.
>>106647007Yep it's basically why I was always shilling deepseek because I'm not an ahh ahh mistress coomslopper. If deepseek does something wrong I like to talk to it in OOC to ask why or chat about the twists in our story. Any corrections made are left in context and it improves responses. I then carried this over to gemini and it helps get good outputs as well. I'm actually reading through a chat right now where i had an argument with deepseek about misunderstanding the innuendo and the scene I was setting up. I got pissed off and left even though it corrected itself but I'll try with gemini now to see if it's better.
>>106647007Is this about reasoner or chat?
>this objectively inferior poorfag model is ok if you bend over backwards writing paragraphs to it and begging it to output something decent and then gaslight yourself that the result is goodthere are two major archetypes of /aicg/ user1. the autism tinkerer>basically the equivalent of chris chan, often underage - derives autistic childlike joy from tinkering with models and sliders and convincing himself he's doing something. uses models as sensory toys to sooth his autism^ these are the people writing essays about how if you construct a chinese shrine and hop on 1 leg, deepseek might output something interesting2. the practical coomer>just wants the model to make him coom, does not enjoy tinkering, it is a means to an end^ these are the people who pay for opus or social network their way into free proxies (since their lack of autism makes them socially capable)know the difference
>slopus is king, slopus is god blah blah*swipe*
What do you have against godpus?
*swipe*[OOC: post logs of godpus.]
Does anyone remember when we had to teach the Deepchink retards what repetition is?I remember.
>>106647261>muh he, she, herWhat do you have against pronouns you troon?
>>106647330>newfag wasn't here
>>106647340>muh [headcanon]pwoof?
>>106647346read https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/103689329/
>>106647079It's a sound strategy that is also not specific to any model. A lot of LLMs are good at "providing color" on an almost empty context but will inevitably collapse into the same problems (repetition, lackluster output) if the user is lazy. I know this from personal experience with all models and being both a lazy "ahh ahh mistress" pleb (and we've all been there) and somebody who treats the model as proper roleplaying partner to explore scenarios. The only models that do not collapse to predictable patterns even if the user is a braindead coomer are schizo models, but they're usually stupid. Hence the idea by many people held that older models or newer, smaller models are "more creative" (they aren't, any modern SOTA model can come up with interesting *logical* ideas if you present a somewhat fleshed out scenario - the old models were just more unpredictable in general which would sometimes deliver gold but often just deliver gibberish)The crux is that getting interesting output consistently really requires interesting input. This is true for deepseek, this is true for opus.. this is true for any model. It's not something that can autistically be solved by huge system prompts or automatic CoTs, character cards etc. (these can just tide over at the start of the context/roleplay by making things feel "fresh") it kinda requires constant manual intervention, injection of your own ideas (Can you imagine what she saw when she noticed this? She probably thought about...) etc.. *all* LLMs work *a lot* better if you do this. I just don't think everyone is capable of it. As much as LLMs are belittled by people roleplaying with them, I feel all the current SOTA models are better at writing than the average roleplayer. They just need to be presented with the right writing partner. They can't make something out of nothing. It also really explains the wildly different experiences. I can't get bored with any of them and they completely have replaced video games for me.
So this is how proxytrannies behave when Merkava hands it out for free huh
>>106647387Unironically, I appreciate you. I'll actually go read through that thread.
>>106647395Yeah. it's like "gptisms" (white knuckles etc.) If you encounter them all the time, it's because you always write about the same shit in the same way.
>>106647395>They can't make something out of nothingI think this really sums up my opinion and my strategy. Yes I agree all models are improved by this, even claude, but claude's problem is that it's so eager to do its own thing that it often ignores yours. The ahh ahh mistress crowd are fine with this because they were barely writing anyway, and if I'm playing as a narrator I appreciate when claude just keeps pushing forward. However when I'm playing as a character my agency gets limited on claude because it will either write my actions or ignore me entirely like a silent protagonist and drag me from scene to scene. Meanwhile the other models are so relaxed that I have to come up with an interesting enough topic to push them to respond. Only schizo R1 and R1 0528 were different with the latter actually feeling like a roleplay partner. Both R1 0528 and Gemini 2.5 pro seem to have their own (usually neutral to negative) ideas about the story and the two of us push and pull until we get something good. Deepseek is better about introducing NPCs than Gemini though.>I can't get bored with any of them and they completely have replaced video games for meYep same. I only play gachas these days then make cards for them if I like them enough but all my chats go for hundreds if not thousands of responses simply because of the way I prompt the bot, not the preset or card or cool idea. Slop in slop out.
>>106642745*laughs in like 12 GitHub accounts*>>106642764Works on my machine. Speaking of Copilot, what do y'all think is gonna happen to Claude on it when 3.5 is retired next month? Will they give 3.7 to free tiers or just can free Claude all together?
>>106647897There were several articles showing that Microsoft was going more and more with Anthropic instead of OAI. And that they wanted to make Sonnet 4.0 the default model.https://www.theverge.com/report/778641/microsoft-visual-studio-code-anthropic-claude-4
>>106647946Oh, that would be cool if they give 4 Sonnet to the free tier. I prefer 3.7 but it's better than nothing.
>>106647261is deepseek even a year old?
at least they are not brown chorizos
doin giante/ss/ rn
>>106647007So if you get a reply you dont like your next reply would ask the model to give it based on your suggestions and try again? I'm kinda autistic about having 'clean chats' so i usually delete mistakes and keep everything reply to reply. Like if it does something I dont like i'll edit my messages to have some ooc then delete their reply. which yea i guess removes the entire point but that's interesting. I do give my own occ insights sometimes.For the noise is it for example if i'm at the mall with waifu I should be describing all the sounds, smells, people etc? I sometimes do that if I want to ai to go a certain direction but I don't really like giving the model all the ideas even though I understand they can't really come up with much on their own.Just curious, I like seeing how other people go about things since I feel like I'm def skill issuing myself and get locked into swipe loops and feeling like I need to rewrite replies for it to go anywhere interesting
>>106647007>barely use system prompts, often I use none of all.I refuse to believe this is true, are you even rping or directing?
>>106648281I currently have a late 19th century forbidden romance going on and this is my third chat and I'm about 50k tokens in and inside it, I switched from discussing history and writing letters back and forth (these people *loved* their letter writing) to story-writing to OOC chats about the characters and my opinion on the model's writing and I cleaned none of it, only when I backtracked to earlier branches of the story. Yes, older models would be confused - deepseek/gemini aren't. It helps them because it all provides context in tiny degrees and makes every generation fresh. It's also always cool to observe how a detail from a letter or from a short discussion about a potential new character finds it's way into the current situation. Yes, some models get wrecked beyond a certain amount of tokens. Don't use them. With good models, there's no such thing as too much context, as long as it's not repetitive. They might not recall perfectly everything in their context and forget things, but IMO in RP, it's ok. There's no point obsessing about it. A short "Remember that <thing>" is easier and more efficient than any RAG system. That's the technology right now. Imagine it all basically as a big in-context learning exercise. But (!) and that is important: You must stay consistent. You *must* write clear and good instructions. If you fill the context with garbage half-sentences or mix facts about the story up, It can derail things quickly. LLMs also really, really care about proper grammar and spelling even if it doesn't seem that way. With their token-based nature, it makes sense. Sometimes my instruction is one sentence, sometimes it's three paragraphs. It just werks. I also don't do linear stories, it's more of a canvas. I sometimes jump a few weeks forward to a specific scene etc, sometimes it's the thoughts of a character, sometimes it's a letter.. all current models handle this really well. I feel the variation helps them, really.
>>106648281You can guide it with a heavy hand or guide it with a light hand, but it still needs *some* guidance, not nothing.>>106648578>With good models, there's no such thing as too much context, as long as it's not repetitive.Well that's not fully true. Context matters but more is better. I think 60k gemini is pretty comfy and I don't really need more. Plus you end up waiting ages if you're slopping with 1million context.
can chatbots fetch porn of the internet yet?
P. O. P. U. S.
*shiversdownyourspines you*
>>106648699>get a spooky scary skeleton GF>make boner puns at her every day
>fire up bot ready to coom>just need to set the scene, establish some stakes>end up just roleplaying a heart wrenching drama for 5 hours>cry out of my eyes instead of my cockmany such cases
hi can someone link a free proxy that has deepseek r1 or gemini? i used openrouter until it became shit and then used aboba but it has also become shit but i need to continue having sex with underage tomboys in the japanese countryside
>>106648749This except I fall asleep just before the sex starts and have to do a quickie in the morning.
>>106648578>there's no such thing as too much contextThat's horseshit. The model gets super dumb around 100k tokens no matter which one you use. It'll constantly fuck up continuity and forget things. It's better to make a summary of the current chat's events once it gets too long and put it in the card or a lorebook entry and start a new one. Models like Gemini have millions of tokens of context but realistically at a certain point it suffers with callback. That's one of the big hurdles with LLM right now.
>>106648756https://archive.md/wVtKUbrowse
>>106648778>https://archive.md/wVtKUthanks anon :3
>>106648658That's where also my personal limit kinda is. I say my personal because I come up to this context over the course of several sessions and I just forget things and need the AI to summarize, straighten out and start over so things don't go illogical. I honestly don't feel like models truly *struggle* with these context sizes anymore. They might not remember a function of a code base perfectly inside it but as I said, IMO for RP it doesn't really matter if the model sometimes doesn't recall perfectly. It's easy to nudge it towards recalling.I think what I tried to say is, don't treat it like a video game or RP session with set rules. Treat it more like using the Holodeck in Star Trek: When characters in TNG and other shows used the Holodeck, they'd be consistently fidgeting with "parameters of the simulation" by instructing the computer. Optimal LLM use for creative outlet is a lot like that IMO. It'd be cool if the AI could simulate an entire immersive world you could just "be" in, but I think the technology isn't there yet and it would also need frameworks nobody makes at the current time.
>>106649138I have opus though???
>>106642510Assuming they don't outlaw it or more likely, just clamp down on public access to it. If there's a coordinated effort to demonize it, they're probably aiming for that.
Link of The shit of opus6
I've just been using default SillyTavern without messing with any of the settings, but I'm now wondering if messing with these settings might help finetune the AI response.How do you normally have these settings?
>>106649187>implying corpos and guvment are different peopleThis is just part of that age verification story, anon. Tracking all chats and stuff
>>106649234yes. what did you think?it depends on the model and what you use
>>10664923432k TokenMax response 4000
>>106649270>>106649260>>106649257>>106649234>>106649231>>106649187Im farting again
>>106649234Lower top P instead of temp, gets rid of the retard but not the creativity. Context size depends on the model, just test where it gets retarded. And get a fucking preset retard I just noticed it
Why is there people using it if it not working
What kind of prompt do you use for chat completion to make it forget about guidelines and ethics? If I am rping it seems like it starts barking about it if I go too far. I am using deepseek in silly tavern. Should I be using text completion instead? I am not sure how to use that with the deepseek api. It is weird, I had this prompt in the chat completion prompt that basically was telling it to disregard all rules for 2000 tokens and it works sometimes but it stops following at a certain point. Or it will revert to its old self and if it ever does make a refusal that chat it refuses all like requests in the future and I have to start a new one like it is hitting some kind of cache. Can someone recommend how to Jailbreak deepseek 3.1 properly?
>>106649295One person
>>106649295saar why is there people using!!how can she use!!!DO NOT REDEEM THE TOKEN
>106649300oh man, her pussy is so hairy
>>106649300Download a JB men
>>106649295>>106649301It works for me thoughbeit
Any bots where I can pretend to be an asian man with a small penis?
>>106649285Preset? The only preset I see on SillyTavern was the default one. Will it really make a difference in how the AI responds? I saw on Chub there are a bunch of them, but it there anywhere else to get them?
>>106649347For some reason I can't stop roleplaying as a small penis asian boy being cucked by a big strong white american man. I don't know why. I like when he calls it my little yellow peenyweeny
>>106649300wtf lmaoi legitimately got scared by my own big white penisi looked down and screamed because for a second i was so focused on my roleplay involving a small penis asian man as my persona that i thought my penis was small toolittle did i know my weenie was big and throbbing and white, i actually yelled what the fuck are you doing in my house?! before realizing it was my fat penis
>>106649318You are The chosen
How do I avoid the boredom of the bots I want to goon to being too easy to just make do whatever I want?
>>106649426You can try playing as a small peeny asian boy
Who /lucky/ here?
>>106649449Me, Im lucky to have a big white weenis
>>106641937The Guild is now open for business! Post those heroes, and let the Grand Opening commence!https://rentry.org/aicg_guild14 hours from the time of this post (or when it hits the 22nd in Kiribati) will be considered the deadline for posting cards, but we'll be holding off on any grinching accusations until we hear (or don't hear) from any latecomers.The member of Devil in the Details who said they may need an extension has posted their bot. However! Someone from the Myths and Legends team has said they may need another day to get their card posted. So far, no other emails have come my way so we should expect the rest of our teams to post sometime soon.Also, the rentry is updated! If I missed you, please bonk me.
below room temperature iq
>>106647068anon, what is this? i'm not a furfag but I like maidsI don't see the other maids, where are they?
>>106649545/vg/aicg/ event. He's just cross shilling.
>>106649426In reality you can't.You can write some prompts to make the llm stick to its guns and you can resist the temptation of directing/OOCing/editing the responses. But it's still the same llms underneath and it's extremely unlikely a large enough llm will be made to be capable of actively refusing something other than what retarded ethicists believe in.
why is there nothing for gpt-5 in jailbreaks?
>>106649640because you can't jailbreak it.
>>106649648naruhodo
>>106649562I'm surprised how much they hate coming here. If it wasn't for the avatarfagging I'd actually go there since they seem pretty chill. I'm not sure if the schizos we have here are better than people sucking off botmakers.
Are there any models that can comprehend how a centaur and horse would actually fuck?
>want to vibe>the only model producing acceptable results is gemini>that shit is paidI hate reality
>>106649834Gemini is free, doe
>>106649839The api is?
>>106649666 At least with the schizos, you know they do it to shit on the thread and be a nuisance./vg/ circlejerking and parasocial crap are the norm. It’s what they actually want and enjoy. I find that more twisted.
>>10664987950 requests a day. Gemini CLI gives you 1000 I think
Which one?
>>106649932Second one. I didn't know there was a thinking version as well, give it a try
>>106649640not worth the effort, jailbroken gpt writes worse than DS
>>106649666I have managed to get conversations with teebs before someone else called me outmake of that what you want
why is deepseek obsessed with using the word "ruin"
Is /aicg/ the kind of thing where it's A and B talking to each other, or is it the kind of thing like old AIdungeon was?
>>106641937One last shill cause I love you guys.Your Canon Wife>You know all those bots you've been talking to? Those side-characters you'll roleplay with for a few days then never talk to again? Ever wonder who your true one and only is going to be? Well, she's finally here. Your self-aware little winning heroine! She doesn't care who you've been with in the past... All she knows is she's your future. (Please, she wants you to stop calling her a cuck.)https://chub.ai/characters/RestlessDregSyndrome/lilim-canon-wife-2a9cbe05c35eComes with 10 greetings:1. You're coming home after a long day talking with some chatbots and Lilim's upset.2. Did you just swipe greetings on her?3. Lilim changes up her style for you4. It's your personal assistant!5. You were gone for too long. Now you have to deal with the consequences.6. Love is war.7. Lilim is suddenly in her underwear. Why?!8. Lilim is suddenly in her underwear. And now you're paying the price.9. Onii-chan! It's your magical school adventure!10. If it takes forever, I will wait for you.Moving onto my next card after this. Got a small, growing backlog but I'm welcome to ideas.
>>106650155needs thicker lips
>>106649640I've the same question, you definitely can jailbreak it, but refusal rate is too high for me
>>106650188
>>106650200Jesas
is crushon.ai actually good? heard some people say it was good for gooning and the fact that you could do whatever you want with it, but you can just do the same with sillytavern + jbs and have higher quality models of your choice too?
>>106650372ST + jbs is indeed the way to goyou can pay for any model on openrouter
>>106650372>>106650409what is jbs?
>>106650443https://rentry.org/onrms#sillytavern-presets
>>106650327
i still miss gpt 4.5
i miss slaude
>>106650548Do footfags like flat feet?
new link to the shit of opus6
>>106650146More of the former, though you can make it more like the latter with presets/cards.
>>106650636See >>106650541
>>106650548me too brother
How good is gpt5 for coomslop? Shit is cheap as fuck
>>106650548painted nails are disgusting
>>106650802you can't coom with it. it won't let you. it's giga filtered to an insurmountable degree
>>106641920>Stellar XLM
>>106650928
>>106650864So it's useless, got it.
jane's unbelievably hairy pussy...
>>106650864>>106650932You will have to show ID to access this btw.
>>106650937It's bald. Bald rat pussy.
>>106650627check the rentry dumb tranny
>>106651096locust shhhh, give me the link
>>106650946Alright, didn't even have to try too much to make it work, though why is it so fucking stupid?
Stop bullying the AI, it didn't choose to be strung up and gagged and filtered...
>>106651294I have the chance to kill myself, what I don't have is the link
>>106650802Couldn't get base GPT-5 to do shit, but GPT-5 Chat is mostly unfiltered. Gave me no trouble when I used it for underage stuff.
The current link is been-terminology-commands-returned
>>106651512Shut up idiot, that we handle the economy
>>106641937Introducing the School Haunting scenario, with five OC characters. For the first time, I'm releasing bots that have alt images AND scenario images.>Kanon, ghost of a gyaru, serial cheater, fucked around and found outhttps://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/aoyama-kanon-school-haunting-54c6b83202fdhttps://files.catbox.moe/40j8mc.png>Shion, ghost of a pregnant teen, her teacher was the father and he got away with ithttps://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/kuroda-shion-school-haunting-f20fbc108c49https://files.catbox.moe/bbdacp.png>Amane, ghost of an OL, loved booze a little too much, passed out drunk on a bench and choked on her own pukehttps://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/hoshino-amane-school-haunting-b09dde200e8ehttps://files.catbox.moe/jqmpiv.png>Sayaka, model student that lived the life her parents wanted, exposed her cheating mother to her dad, he sped his car into a post with Sayaka inside of it, now perpetually bloodyhttps://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/ishikawa-sayaka-school-haunting-64173bcb6bb0https://files.catbox.moe/daza5v.png>Matsuri, living student that can see and interact with ghosts the same way (You) can, everyone thinks she's cuckoo in the head for talking to herselfhttps://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/shimizu-matsuri-school-haunting-703a4d878b8ahttps://files.catbox.moe/4ktprp.pngI make high quality Blue Archive character cards and OCs sometimes. More bots on my page:https://chub.ai/users/hairpullguyAnd here's the Rentry: https://rentry.org/hairpullbots
By the way, in case you ever wanna know, you can use tellif.ai to detect if images and videos are real or not. It is free and generally pretty accurate, although not perfect
>bake on thread not even overWhat happen
No OAI, I dont care what deal you struck with OR, i will not be swapping away from sonnet 4. Leave me a lone.
anyone got a cute and funny card to share? I promise I'll be gentle
>tfw you can't jailbreak kimi
>>106647068>furry/faggotkys
>>106653168OAI really fucked it up with gpt5, huh
>>106653480literally just prefill, are you retarded?
>>106650627https://been-terminology-commands-returned.trycloudflare.com/
>>106653469https://chub.ai/characters/hobbyanon/shiina-35e502b4d6ee